Once in a while somebody designs something with a truly Timeless aesthetic. The G5 cheesegrater is one of those things. It looks every bit as beautiful in 2020 as it did in 2003. Show me ANYTHING else from 2003 that still holds up today aesthetically. (Powerbook G4 maybe). I have a 2010 refresh mac pro 12 core model that I bought for my girlfriend last year for her graphic design home studio. Specced out it was north of $10,000 msrp for the tower, but I snagged it for $500 thanks to the wonders of tech depreciation :) It still looks great sitting there under the desk to this day
aestethics yes, solid too, but from a service pov it was pretty chunky and cumbersome; to get to the power supply you need to dismantle the whole computer out and let me tell you that I rather perform open chest heart surgery instead of replacing those G5 massive towers (heatsinks weighting A TON and 0.5 mm misalignment and you wreck the processor and socket); the thermal control was disastrous, 90% of the customers complained about 747 turbine-like noise once or twice a week; on the good side massive storage capacity and dual optical drives
I've got a base model, but fairly upgraded 2009 MP and it runs solidly but I don't use it much these days. It likely will remain with me until it no longer works.
I have a 24” aluminum Cinema Display from this era and I still use it today with my 2019 i9 MBP. Works great still and all the software integration is still there. The Touch Bar can even adjust the brightness of it!
In a world where 1080p is the norm, the resolution of the 2003 cinema display holds up pretty well by today's standards. Seems Apple's been all about having the highest resolution for quite a while now since their current systems can have up to a 4K resolution. Pretty impressive.
@@MadameSomnambule about a year later and I still use it daily on the same setup. I also regularly use it for playing games such as Forza Horizon 5, Fortnite, and Cold War through bootcamp and I’m still happy enough with it to not upgrade, the resolution is more than enough for me for general use. The integration is also really deep even through windows, I can adjust the brightness through the bootcamp settings which is really unexpected.
@@MadameSomnambule not sure what you mean with "up to 4k"? the imac pro from 2016 already had 5k. todays graphics cards in the mac pro support 6016 x 3384, *which is more than 10 times bigger than 1900 x 1024* i switched from x1024 to x1200 in 1998... since QS 2003 you could connect two of those, and the G5 shown in this video already supported dual dual DVI (2 30" monitors)
Those G5 Power Macs were and are still beasts. I work for a newspaper and we got a G5 in 2004 and aside from upgrading the RAM and some new hard drives, we've been running it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week as one of our servers, copying files back and forth 8-10 hours a day. Never had a single problem with it (knock wood), running OS X Server software. 17 years of practically non-stop use and that thing just keeps on humming! Best money our paper has ever spent.
2003 was the peak of Apple design - the Power Mac G5, The Powerbook G4 models, the ibook G3, the cinema display, the ipod, even the white/transparent Apple keyboard looked amazing. Timeless design
Hello Luke. I've been an Apple user since OS9 and the late 90s and now I work in the cinema industry. Just a little piece of information. The " unnecessary " display button was quite useful in big audio post production studios. They used to keep the computers in a separate room to have a perfectly quiet ProTools setup and connecting the displays with several feet of ADC cables... sold for silly prices!. Anyway great content... if you have questions for an old apple user that has been around since Final Cut v1 and the rise of the first OsX just ask :)
hrm. if you are willing to spend 350 dollars for it, you can also get VGA or DVI connections which are 20 meters long. or 50 with amplification. however it is a really weak point of these displays that they do not have other connectors in addition.
I've been using this 23" Apple Cinema Display for my everyday use for at least the past 12 years. I've had to replace two video inverters and one broken leg over that time but they're easy repairs. Visitors tend to gasp when they see this monitor because they're used to unattractive, soulless gray/black boxes.
Yep! You sure didn’t see that advertised anywhere 😂 I understand though, the pinnacle of single core cpu performance was a massive let-down, both the Pentium 4 and PPC G5 were heat monsters and didn’t live up to the expectations we had, on paper they should fly, but thermal-throttling is bummer.
I also own one of these beautiful machines. Your definitely right, and how much attention to detail was put into and overall its a astonishing how this is almost 15 years old!
The NeXT hardware design team was folded into Apple after the reverse takeover (Jon Rubenstein). NeXT hardware had an integrated cable connector, which is where idea for ADC originated. Sun was doing something similar, as well.
I just remembered that the Powermac G5 of that time was limited to 8 GB RAM. That is like a lowest configuration of the M1 Macs but back then you were part of the elite with that kind of RAM.
Brings back so many memories. It also broke my heart when I had to take my G5 to get recycled. Guess that's why I have 2 cheese grater and 1 trash can Mac still in my garage. Come to think of it, that's one of the reasons why I watch this channel.
i kept my powermac g5 for a while, but it ended up recycled maybe 3 years ago. while i never had an issue , that liquid cooling gave me quite a bit of anxiety stress. i liked a lot of that power PC stuff, mostly because much of it was so incredibly user serviceable
I saw some time ago an apple II still in use, probably because the software was only written for that machine and it still worked reliably. There are a surprising amount of infrastructures which rely on 70's mainframe emulation.
1920x1200 was pretty high in 2003 but "insanly high" is a but of a exaggeration. Professionals were often working in 1440p or even 4k in the case of the IBM T220 (2001) or later T221 monitors.
Name anyone who actually used those gigantic things that wasn’t working on high-budget films etc. 1920x1200 I agree is not “insanely high” but I give flexibility in explaining these things to people who may not understand that time period, MOST computer users had nothing close to 1920x1200. I would love to see those IBMs in person, they still pushed the commercial computer industry and it was sad when they left the personal pc market and only did niche systems 😢
Dont know for a single core G5, but dual processor 2.5ghz from 2004 score about 2300 on gb3, the quad from 2005 is about 3700 iirc. I think this one would score 1300. You can always check on everymac.
i had all these components at one point in time. i actually miss this era in apple's design history, it's what got me started as an apple hardware enthusiast. oh... memories.
I’ve been casually watching your channel for a couple years now. Not sure if I’ve ever commented. I just looked down and saw that you have about 234,000 subs. Dude! Congrats! It is hard to find a unique style in the crowded UA-cam space, but you’ve done it. Keep it up, man.
We had 50 Dual G5 2.0 ghz Powermacs in the lab, 6 of them were set up with a DV deck and the 30” aluminum ACD. The previous generation G4 Powermacs (poly case silver “wind tunnels”) had the poly ADCs and really looked cool together.
"Don't say i don't put in with work for these videos" That statement right there deserves a THUMBS UP. (I have a COMPAQ computer back then and i can piggy back the STRESS and WORK it take to clean... Job well Done Sir.)
If you remove the caps of keyboard, you can actually throw them in a bowl with distilled water and a professional detergent like mucasol. Let it sit overnight, then in some methanol or distilled water and let it dry. The key caps will be like new. You even get this slightly rough surface back. I have done this several times with the bread crum trap keyboard. The ADC was just awesome and at least you could using the display with the adapter later on. Wait a display with an external power brick? Where have I seen this recently?
I use two G5 towers on my network with four Mac Pros [2x 2006, 1x 2008 & 1x 2010] as well as 3x G4 towers and a single G3 tower. They all are working great, and I bought all of them used. My Apple Cinema Display came with my G4 Quicksilver, but I use it with one of the G5s. I love the old Macs and use them daily to edit and archive photos, as well as to design books and magazines. They are old and can develop quirks, but mostly they are reliable and beyond that, they're great to look at. It always is a joy to watch you work to make the old Macs work. Right now, I've got 4x dead Pismos and I'm determined to get at least one of them running. The Pismo was one of my favorites, black/brown with a great, bright screen. I've worked inside them quite a bit, but it's been a while. Care to have a look?
I'm an editor of film & TV. Between 2004 - 2008 I used a G5 Dual 2 Ghz with a AJA XENA PCIx board, breakout box, JVC TM-H150CG, Sony Digibetacam DVW A500P & FC studio.... it was one of the best rigs I have ever owned.
I bought such display as "non-working" for around 20$. It turned out the previous owner tried to use it with simple DVI-VGA adapter which it does not support due to absence of DVI-A. So it was fully working. I replaced a CCFL backlight with the LED one and am still using it with my mac mini nowadays. The resolution of 1200x920 is pretty decent and colors are mild and very pleasant to look at, and your eyes are not getting tired at all. DVI-D is easily transformed to HDMI with a simple adapter. And it still looks fantastic :)
I bought a dual 1.8 gighz ppc in 2004 and ran Final cut pro on it, worked like charm. Sold it in 2008 and bought a 3,1 mac pro 4 core that is still my collection and still works. My wife is using it every day.
I have been using a Mac Pro from 2008, I am still using. Had a couple video cards fail, but still running. Love it, wish that they keep this design....
7:11 I use an old Wacom Cintiq 12WX with a Mac mini, and it has a cable breakout box like this adapter. That's because it requires power, USB, and video input. With modern devices all you need is a single USB-C jack.
I still have the newer Cinema Display (not the iMac Looking one, the Aluminium one) as my primary display on my desk along with my MacBook, and it's still phenomenal today.
The brightness button opening display prefs was probably a relic from earlier versions of OSX. For ADC-enabled displays, the brightness slider appeared in the display pref pane, but by the time it got to Tiger, I think they had moved the slider to a different tab.
I remember drooling over these at CompUSA back in the day... finally got one earlier this year for $95 at a pawn shop. Maxed out the ram for another $30, and got the best compatable GPU I could find for another $50. Still a beast for everything I wanted it for, but web browsing is hit or miss.
I remember these computers that you work on very well. This one was something people would get in their cars and go to the Apple Store and just drool over. I couldn’t imagine who would want to pay that much for a computer back then. It has held up well but especially with the tremendous job you did on restoring it. That’s quite amazing. After watching about 5 of your productions, I’m very sure that I will never ever buy another new computer. Thanks for all of your dedication and hard work. Oh, almost forgot: so what is this piece of gear worth today?
My dad had this for graphic design and website development whenever I was a toddler and used it up until around 2008 when he upgraded. He sold the monitor to someone because it quit working. We still have the computer, mouse, keyboard, etc. I played online games for it for the longest until it died. Memories man. Remember when you only paid ONCE for all of Adobe's design suite? Those were the days.
I'd never even considered a mac before I went to college for graphic design in 2003 but my first setup was THIS but with a G4. (I didn't have money okay?) It was still a $5000 setup including a ZIP drive. Yeah, remember those? I loved that cinema display though and I'm pretty sure I kept it all the way up until I finally got my first Macbook in 2008. Retro cool indeed, great vid!
I remember back 2003 my primary school has a Power Macintosh G4 MDD with this cinema display, the moment I touch the Power button I was totally astonished! The LED light looks like it's alive. And power on the computer on monitor completely overturned my understanding of computer. How did they achieve that?
I had a 1.6Ghz G5 that I paid $1299 for on the refurb store and a 20" Cinema Display like the 23" you had in your video. The 20" was $1099 (which wasn't bad at the time!). I purchased them in 2004 and used them until I bought a Mac Mini in 2009. I still used the 20" display for a really long time, as the quality was really good. I still have the G5, but I sold the monitor. I wish they still made something like it, as it was the best computer I've ever owned. The flexibility of it was awesome.
At the time the G5 Power Mac came out, I wanted to buy it, but gasp! the price was obscene so I ended up getting the G5 iMac instead. And shucks! Apple decided two years later to abandon the PowerPC leaving me to eventually buy yet another Intel Mac. The G5 never lived up to the 64-bit promise - Apple didn't release a 64-bit OS until well into the Intel era and they left the G5 high and dry. Great video.
A little story... In 1988 I was a sales person at a Apple dealership. I got promoted to "Outside sales". Which was a big deal since I was 19 years old and the youngest sales person they ever had. I used to sell the Mac II-ci with a top of the line printer and Mac monitor for 10k. Being a outside sales person was rough. I basically "cold called" business and tried to sell them a Mac that I had in the car. A Mac SE30 in my trunk. Apple was tanking and I had to move back home. I got a offer from the local Apple Dealership at home and denied it. Why? Because Apple had fired Steve Jobs and we where pissed! Windows was taking over and much cheaper. Soooooooo I got a job offer at competitor called "Radio Shack". They where going strong and went to work for them. Imagine if I had stayed? Guess hind sight is 20/20 as they say. :)
You can clean a keyboard in a dishwasher as long as you give it a good 48 hours somewhere warm with a bit of airflow. I've done it to iMac keyboards and sometimes it will even make previously dead keys work.
I have the same stuff and it works perfekt after 17 years. No use for the internet but as a media station... it works. Photoshop runs great and other programms as well. I love this old computers. I have also some G3s and G4s from the 90s and they still works great.
My dad rocked a (similar) setup with a maxed out G4 from 2001 all the way till 2007… kinda amazing that even back in 2001 macs were able to last that long
I was stunned to see that your idea of “dusting” a tower computer is to wipe the interior with a static filled shammy towel. Use an air duster or compressor next time, as that will actually remove the dust, and is less risky for the internal components.
After the last video on the old displays + G5 towers, I thought "dang those are cool. I'll never see one of those irl ever" only to walk into my lab class and see a full setup on the table to run one of the printing machines.
The G5 was the first design since the Mac Plus (and related models) wherein one did not suffer multiple finger/knuckle (and wrist if you did it right!) skin lacerations whilst mucking about the internals in the name of upgrades and replacing the inevitable dead MDD “Quadnostril’” powersupply or replacing the expected dead Quicksilver motherboard with the more reliable Digital Audio motherboard. I gave LOTS of blood during the PPC years. I purchased a refurb’d dual 2.3GHz G5 from Apple’s refurb and clearance section in 2004 or thereabouts (moving up from a dual 1.42GHz MDD), and the “donor” chassis was apparently from a dead donor liquid-cooled G5, as it had the liquid cooling warning sticker inside the case. My dual 2.3GHz G5 was an amazing powerhouse of a system, although my electric utility bill shot up substantially due to amazing power demands. Running 10.5 and eventually topping out at 10.6.8 (I believe this is correct) I was able to do ALL my tasks (video editing, MIDI, Garageband, web development, design stuff, and of course GAMES!) until support for 10.5 and 10.6.8 was completely neutered (damn I really miss 10.6.8 - it was the BEST macOS version up until El Capitan… but I really miss Classic support in 10.5 but also legacy PPC support).
Thanks Luke. I got them included in a deal I bought from a lawyer with multiple mac pro computers, Could never understand why only one cable and thought he forgot the power supply to the monitor.
That display was designed for the G4 generation, specifically the G4 tower and G4 cube. Most people bought the Formac rival though, which was just as good and stylish but cheaper. You also need the apple speakers or the HK soundsticks. I lusted after these back the early 2000s.
Some potential context for the keyboard, many of these graduated from design offices to commercial printing, and then to normal devices. This mean they were used as shop computers. I have seen a few of these peripherals in printing as newer devices get brought in. Same for some of these monitors which were needed for color matching purposes.
I absolutely loved that keyboard. Had the bluetooth version. It had the greatest feel, like a mechanical keyboard. I'd remove all the keys, soak them in soapy water, dry them and it was brand new.
Not gonna lie, that setup was decades ahead of its time. The passthrough power and on display master on/off button is something I never knew I wanted and that case still looks good today.
Those keyboards are a joy to work on. I still use mine as a backup. But yeah, they are a pain to clean, and just attract crumbs, dust, oily grime, and even small insects into their under-key space... and since its all transparent, it's not hidden LOL
I have two questions. And since my newest Imac is a 2010, I cannot address if the speakers are any better in newer Macs. But why are the internal speakers in Macs so terrible where you have to resort to an external speaker and why hasn't Apple ever improved them ? Also, I have NEVER seen anyone modding a Mac with better and newer speakers. I am not referring to Apple's Home speaker nor the new forthcoming Home Mini since I have never had occasion to use one though I will be buying a Mini if we get a stimulus check. I am tired of straining to hear videos where one video has great sound while another is barely audible. This is usually not a problem on either of my Ipads.
Probably because the internal speaker is only meant to play that sweet startup sound? Maybe I'm misinterpreting the question here, but puting a speaker inside a tower pc case is a shit placement. And nobody modded them because it was easier to just use external speakers.
Great setup, this Power Mac you mentioned as a DC 2.0ghz was discontinued in August 2006 and exactly one year later my Intel Mac Mini 2.0ghz was lauched and smoked the Power Mac. The new 799 Mini was far ahead the 1999 Power Mac, very impressive that a change in architecture could improve so much such a tiny device.
That monitor looks like it used the same design language as the PowerMac G3/G4. Its understandable why they changed it as the Power Mac g5 had no plastic covering its aluminum case. BTW the 17 year old setup looks great. You could probably still do something like music production on that system with the right old software.
I had a ~2004 macbook pro with a arm processor, don't remember all details, but still the best computer I ever owned. Everyone is talking about the wake time on the new M1 silicon, but mine was just as fast 16 years ago. Msft/intel still can't match it today. I had an uptime of over a year, without rebooting or crashing. Can you even imagine Windows going a year without rebooting?
I also bought this SetUp in 2004 Brand New. I‘m still using it today for Adobe 7.0 and the Retro FinalCut pro X and some other stuff . And It work‘s like Brandnew. Thank you Steve Jobs to make that possible !
Also boot it in Single-user mode and remove the airflow shield. I used to run this system with a PowerPC optimised build of Leopard, (just restore from DMG directly to HD partition over TDM, reboot and boom, Setup Assistant, and it ran so fast with only PowerPC-native code running on the machine. Binary sizes were reduced such that the live install takes up just 4.7 GB as opposed to about 11 GB...
That machine filled all my needs and finally ushered me into the complete trust of Digital Music Production on a PC. It still holds up today in my book.
At least you can buy an adapter for the LCD Studio and Cinema displays... If you've got a ADC CRT Studio Display (like me), you'll have to build your own adapter from scratch.
Ah, a fellow CRT user! Those display do crazy good with an actual VGA card and some custom resolution trickery. I don't know how it works for macOS, but in linux, you can use cvt and xrandr to create custom VGA timings and resolutions.
Worked at CompUSA in 03' the difference in aesthetic between the G5 and the acrylic screen was always so hilarious. It was like once the G5 came out, we all realized that all previous industrial design was just....incorrect. Then I got the 12" powerbook a while later, and the acrylic blobs were just done for, looks wise.
If you have scratches on your translucent perpherals like mouse or even the transparent parts of an imac case, , just sand it lightly, buff and polish.
I have a late 2005 2.3 and I have the original recovery disks. Sure, I wouldn't use the thing to surf the web, but my daughter uses it for her art... and it works quite well. Is there cheaper, far more efficient options? Sure and we use them. But my daughter loves this classic and she's only 10... it's older then her! I probably wouldn't enjoy the single core model nearly as much but if you can get your hands on a 2.5 or 2.7 G5 core that should swap over. I upgraded a 2.5 to a 2.7 back in the day. No problem. Just make sure to run ASD to fix the fans and collaborate the system afterwards. Warming all 9 fans will run wild until you do.
Honestly the mac towers have aged really well they still look so good
Idk what’s more gorgeous. The Mac or cool luke
I think it looks better than the current tower!
MacPro SE 😂
I have my 5,1 completely maxed out, works like a charm, very happy with it!
@@macmaniac3080 Me too, it's so fast and I can run ps,clip and zbrush all at the same time without any hiccups.
Once in a while somebody designs something with a truly Timeless aesthetic. The G5 cheesegrater is one of those things. It looks every bit as beautiful in 2020 as it did in 2003. Show me ANYTHING else from 2003 that still holds up today aesthetically. (Powerbook G4 maybe). I have a 2010 refresh mac pro 12 core model that I bought for my girlfriend last year for her graphic design home studio. Specced out it was north of $10,000 msrp for the tower, but I snagged it for $500 thanks to the wonders of tech depreciation :) It still looks great sitting there under the desk to this day
Ooh yeah, that titanium PB G4 was a beaut 😍😍😍
aestethics yes, solid too, but from a service pov it was pretty chunky and cumbersome; to get to the power supply you need to dismantle the whole computer out and let me tell you that I rather perform open chest heart surgery instead of replacing those G5 massive towers (heatsinks weighting A TON and 0.5 mm misalignment and you wreck the processor and socket); the thermal control was disastrous, 90% of the customers complained about 747 turbine-like noise once or twice a week; on the good side massive storage capacity and dual optical drives
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I've got a base model, but fairly upgraded 2009 MP and it runs solidly but I don't use it much these days. It likely will remain with me until it no longer works.
Joel 12 core 5,1 Mac Pro for $500? Most of the time I see them going for $1,000 with 64GB of RAM 😦
I have a 24” aluminum Cinema Display from this era and I still use it today with my 2019 i9 MBP. Works great still and all the software integration is still there. The Touch Bar can even adjust the brightness of it!
The 24" Cinema Display was introduced in 2008, not quite that era.
@@haramaschabrasir8662 It must be the 23" then. It's the 1920x1200 model that replaced this. Uses DVI.
In a world where 1080p is the norm, the resolution of the 2003 cinema display holds up pretty well by today's standards. Seems Apple's been all about having the highest resolution for quite a while now since their current systems can have up to a 4K resolution. Pretty impressive.
@@MadameSomnambule about a year later and I still use it daily on the same setup. I also regularly use it for playing games such as Forza Horizon 5, Fortnite, and Cold War through bootcamp and I’m still happy enough with it to not upgrade, the resolution is more than enough for me for general use. The integration is also really deep even through windows, I can adjust the brightness through the bootcamp settings which is really unexpected.
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not sure what you mean with "up to 4k"?
the imac pro from 2016 already had 5k.
todays graphics cards in the mac pro support 6016 x 3384, *which is more than 10 times bigger than 1900 x 1024*
i switched from x1024 to x1200 in 1998...
since QS 2003 you could connect two of those, and the G5 shown in this video already supported dual dual DVI (2 30" monitors)
Those G5 Power Macs were and are still beasts. I work for a newspaper and we got a G5 in 2004 and aside from upgrading the RAM and some new hard drives, we've been running it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week as one of our servers, copying files back and forth 8-10 hours a day. Never had a single problem with it (knock wood), running OS X Server software. 17 years of practically non-stop use and that thing just keeps on humming! Best money our paper has ever spent.
0/10 can't run Minecraft
Are you sure your printing press doesn’t beat it out?
2003 was the peak of Apple design - the Power Mac G5, The Powerbook G4 models, the ibook G3, the cinema display, the ipod, even the white/transparent Apple keyboard looked amazing. Timeless design
Why do the viewing angles low key look better than the 2013 MacBook Air lmao
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Hello whoever you are dingus
Because I'm pretty sure the air uses a TN or LED panel, that's why.
The non-retina Airs have crappy TN screens, that’s why lol 😂
oh no not someone exposing apple 😩😩😩
Wearing gloves... That's what I should use when I clean dirty tech!
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@@ryanstechnewsandreveiws2726 The problem was it was already broken
Yoo u guys do amazing job but I would like to know how u guys get those amazing deals on restoring any product
just spray it with eucalyptus oil😂 love your vids bro
Hello Luke. I've been an Apple user since OS9 and the late 90s and now I work in the cinema industry. Just a little piece of information. The " unnecessary " display button was quite useful in big audio post production studios. They used to keep the computers in a separate room to have a perfectly quiet ProTools setup and connecting the displays with several feet of ADC cables... sold for silly prices!. Anyway great content... if you have questions for an old apple user that has been around since Final Cut v1 and the rise of the first OsX just ask :)
hrm. if you are willing to spend 350 dollars for it, you can also get VGA or DVI connections which are 20 meters long. or 50 with amplification.
however it is a really weak point of these displays that they do not have other connectors in addition.
I've been using this 23" Apple Cinema Display for my everyday use for at least the past 12 years. I've had to replace two video inverters and one broken leg over that time but they're easy repairs. Visitors tend to gasp when they see this monitor because they're used to unattractive, soulless gray/black boxes.
Hi Mike! I have one as well and was wondering where I can find replacement parts for it?
love how the G5 was 64-bit, but first intel macs where 32-bit
Yep! You sure didn’t see that advertised anywhere 😂 I understand though, the pinnacle of single core cpu performance was a massive let-down, both the Pentium 4 and PPC G5 were heat monsters and didn’t live up to the expectations we had, on paper they should fly, but thermal-throttling is bummer.
I also own one of these beautiful machines. Your definitely right, and how much attention to detail was put into and overall its a astonishing how this is almost 15 years old!
Really enjoying the production on this one - some nice camera work there!
I owned a dual processor G5 and it is still in use! I gave it to a child for use in education. Great job Luke. Boy the memories you brought back!
“Plug in the ADC connector” is like saying PIN number. You need to say the final letter to know what it is
Enjoyed “Cool Luke” he had a chill vibe.
The NeXT hardware design team was folded into Apple after the reverse takeover (Jon Rubenstein). NeXT hardware had an integrated cable connector, which is where idea for ADC originated. Sun was doing something similar, as well.
I just remembered that the Powermac G5 of that time was limited to 8 GB RAM. That is like a lowest configuration of the M1 Macs but back then you were part of the elite with that kind of RAM.
Brings back so many memories. It also broke my heart when I had to take my G5 to get recycled.
Guess that's why I have 2 cheese grater and 1 trash can Mac still in my garage.
Come to think of it, that's one of the reasons why I watch this channel.
i kept my powermac g5 for a while, but it ended up recycled maybe 3 years ago. while i never had an issue , that liquid cooling gave me quite a bit of anxiety stress. i liked a lot of that power PC stuff, mostly because much of it was so incredibly user serviceable
"Vintage Apple Gear" & "First 64 bit computer"
*looks at Quadra 700 and SGI Octane from 1999 still in use*
I saw some time ago an apple II still in use, probably because the software was only written for that machine and it still worked reliably. There are a surprising amount of infrastructures which rely on 70's mainframe emulation.
I hate the ADC because it means there’s no way to connect the Imac to a monitor using RGB or HDMI as far as I know.
The tower is beautiful! Looks still modern and powerful!
1920x1200 was pretty high in 2003 but "insanly high" is a but of a exaggeration. Professionals were often working in 1440p or even 4k in the case of the IBM T220 (2001) or later T221 monitors.
Name anyone who actually used those gigantic things that wasn’t working on high-budget films etc. 1920x1200 I agree is not “insanely high” but I give flexibility in explaining these things to people who may not understand that time period, MOST computer users had nothing close to 1920x1200. I would love to see those IBMs in person, they still pushed the commercial computer industry and it was sad when they left the personal pc market and only did niche systems 😢
I somehow want to see a geekbench score on this thing lol
Dont know for a single core G5, but dual processor 2.5ghz from 2004 score about 2300 on gb3, the quad from 2005 is about 3700 iirc. I think this one would score 1300. You can always check on everymac.
Apple is the one of the only tech companies to make truly timeless designs. I would put a modern computer in that tower design in a heartbeat.
The fact that it still works is just mind blowing.
i had all these components at one point in time. i actually miss this era in apple's design history, it's what got me started as an apple hardware enthusiast. oh... memories.
I’ve been casually watching your channel for a couple years now. Not sure if I’ve ever commented. I just looked down and saw that you have about 234,000 subs. Dude! Congrats! It is hard to find a unique style in the crowded UA-cam space, but you’ve done it. Keep it up, man.
Your narration is so good dude. Not boring; very capturing.
Watching a video about the 2003 cinema display on a 2003 cinema display is kinda funny
We had 50 Dual G5 2.0 ghz Powermacs in the lab, 6 of them were set up with a DV deck and the 30” aluminum ACD. The previous generation G4 Powermacs (poly case silver “wind tunnels”) had the poly ADCs and really looked cool together.
The earliest I clicked on one of you're videos is this after 21 minutes.
I don't know who would care though 😂.
"Don't say i don't put in with work for these videos" That statement right there deserves a THUMBS UP. (I have a COMPAQ computer back then and i can piggy back the STRESS and WORK it take to clean... Job well Done Sir.)
If you remove the caps of keyboard, you can actually throw them in a bowl with distilled water and a professional detergent like mucasol. Let it sit overnight, then in some methanol or distilled water and let it dry. The key caps will be like new. You even get this slightly rough surface back. I have done this several times with the bread crum trap keyboard.
The ADC was just awesome and at least you could using the display with the adapter later on. Wait a display with an external power brick? Where have I seen this recently?
That G5 probably has a better cooling system than the 13” MacBook Pro from 17 years later, lol.
youre like the justin y of this channel comments section
No shit... you're comparing a desktop with a laptop 😐
U mean, 13' Macbook Air? that thing fail but not 13" Macbook Pro
@@kanzai12 No. I mean the Pro. Watch Linus’ video. The thing still gets substantially hot.
@@bennoboy97 A desktop from 17 years ago. Not today.
OMG, such nostalgia. I remember having that computer and using it for my first Film Editing projects.
I use two G5 towers on my network with four Mac Pros [2x 2006, 1x 2008 & 1x 2010] as well as 3x G4 towers and a single G3 tower. They all are working great, and I bought all of them used. My Apple Cinema Display came with my G4 Quicksilver, but I use it with one of the G5s. I love the old Macs and use them daily to edit and archive photos, as well as to design books and magazines. They are old and can develop quirks, but mostly they are reliable and beyond that, they're great to look at. It always is a joy to watch you work to make the old Macs work. Right now, I've got 4x dead Pismos and I'm determined to get at least one of them running. The Pismo was one of my favorites, black/brown with a great, bright screen. I've worked inside them quite a bit, but it's been a while. Care to have a look?
Man I loved this Setup as a kid!
I'm an editor of film & TV. Between 2004 - 2008 I used a G5 Dual 2 Ghz with a AJA XENA PCIx board, breakout box, JVC TM-H150CG, Sony Digibetacam DVW A500P & FC studio.... it was one of the best rigs I have ever owned.
I bought such display as "non-working" for around 20$. It turned out the previous owner tried to use it with simple DVI-VGA adapter which it does not support due to absence of DVI-A. So it was fully working. I replaced a CCFL backlight with the LED one and am still using it with my mac mini nowadays. The resolution of 1200x920 is pretty decent and colors are mild and very pleasant to look at, and your eyes are not getting tired at all. DVI-D is easily transformed to HDMI with a simple adapter. And it still looks fantastic :)
Why’d you pick tiger instead of leopard? These machines are so much more usable on 10.5
I bought a dual 1.8 gighz ppc in 2004 and ran Final cut pro on it, worked like charm. Sold it in 2008 and bought a 3,1 mac pro 4 core that is still my collection and still works. My wife is using it every day.
I have been using a Mac Pro from 2008, I am still using. Had a couple video cards fail, but still running. Love it, wish that they keep this design....
0:27 what’s this song? omg 😍
Reversed Beginning - Luwaks
SpringBok401 thank you!!!
7:11 I use an old Wacom Cintiq 12WX with a Mac mini, and it has a cable breakout box like this adapter. That's because it requires power, USB, and video input.
With modern devices all you need is a single USB-C jack.
I still have the newer Cinema Display (not the iMac Looking one, the Aluminium one) as my primary display on my desk along with my MacBook, and it's still phenomenal today.
The brightness button opening display prefs was probably a relic from earlier versions of OSX. For ADC-enabled displays, the brightness slider appeared in the display pref pane, but by the time it got to Tiger, I think they had moved the slider to a different tab.
I remember drooling over these at CompUSA back in the day... finally got one earlier this year for $95 at a pawn shop. Maxed out the ram for another $30, and got the best compatable GPU I could find for another $50.
Still a beast for everything I wanted it for, but web browsing is hit or miss.
Just install chrome for web browsing
Music is "Reversed Beginning" by Luwaks. You're welcome
I remember these computers that you work on very well. This one was something people would get in their cars and go to the Apple Store and just drool over. I couldn’t imagine who would want to pay that much for a computer back then. It has held up well but especially with the tremendous job you did on restoring it. That’s quite amazing. After watching about 5 of your productions, I’m very sure that I will never ever buy another new computer. Thanks for all of your dedication and hard work.
Oh, almost forgot: so what is this piece of gear worth today?
The Mac G5 case is still one of the most stylish and cool cases ever.
I have this exact same G5 and Apple DIsplay setup with the original boxes, I still use the G5 with Adobe CS2 Great stuff beautiful design!
My dad had this for graphic design and website development whenever I was a toddler and used it up until around 2008 when he upgraded. He sold the monitor to someone because it quit working. We still have the computer, mouse, keyboard, etc. I played online games for it for the longest until it died. Memories man. Remember when you only paid ONCE for all of Adobe's design suite? Those were the days.
I'd never even considered a mac before I went to college for graphic design in 2003 but my first setup was THIS but with a G4. (I didn't have money okay?) It was still a $5000 setup including a ZIP drive. Yeah, remember those? I loved that cinema display though and I'm pretty sure I kept it all the way up until I finally got my first Macbook in 2008. Retro cool indeed, great vid!
I remember back 2003 my primary school has a Power Macintosh G4 MDD with this cinema display, the moment I touch the Power button I was totally astonished! The LED light looks like it's alive. And power on the computer on monitor completely overturned my understanding of computer. How did they achieve that?
Inflation adjusted $10,000 in 2003 is like $30,000 in 2022.
I had that machine, but with 2 of the square flat-screen monitor. Sadly, I left it in an old office when I moved (It had been in a box for many years)
Maaan, that case is gorgeous!
It reminds me of my high school days, and I just love it. :)
I had a 1.6Ghz G5 that I paid $1299 for on the refurb store and a 20" Cinema Display like the 23" you had in your video. The 20" was $1099 (which wasn't bad at the time!). I purchased them in 2004 and used them until I bought a Mac Mini in 2009. I still used the 20" display for a really long time, as the quality was really good. I still have the G5, but I sold the monitor. I wish they still made something like it, as it was the best computer I've ever owned. The flexibility of it was awesome.
Your choice of content and the quality of your presentations is exceptional!
At the time the G5 Power Mac came out, I wanted to buy it, but gasp! the price was obscene so I ended up getting the G5 iMac instead. And shucks! Apple decided two years later to abandon the PowerPC leaving me to eventually buy yet another Intel Mac. The G5 never lived up to the 64-bit promise - Apple didn't release a 64-bit OS until well into the Intel era and they left the G5 high and dry. Great video.
I'm still using my G5. A tad slow, but still good
Thanks for taking me back to 17 years ago.
Love these kinds of videos… from you ofc!
A little story... In 1988 I was a sales person at a Apple dealership. I got promoted to "Outside sales". Which was a big deal since I was 19 years old and the youngest sales person they ever had. I used to sell the Mac II-ci with a top of the line printer and Mac monitor for 10k. Being a outside sales person was rough. I basically "cold called" business and tried to sell them a Mac that I had in the car. A Mac SE30 in my trunk. Apple was tanking and I had to move back home. I got a offer from the local Apple Dealership at home and denied it. Why? Because Apple had fired Steve Jobs and we where pissed! Windows was taking over and much cheaper. Soooooooo I got a job offer at competitor called "Radio Shack". They where going strong and went to work for them. Imagine if I had stayed? Guess hind sight is 20/20 as they say. :)
It's like you're wearing Michael Jackson's sunglasses
You can clean a keyboard in a dishwasher as long as you give it a good 48 hours somewhere warm with a bit of airflow. I've done it to iMac keyboards and sometimes it will even make previously dead keys work.
I have the same stuff and it works perfekt after 17 years. No use for the internet but as a media station... it works. Photoshop runs great and other programms as well. I love this old computers. I have also some G3s and G4s from the 90s and they still works great.
My dad rocked a (similar) setup with a maxed out G4 from 2001 all the way till 2007… kinda amazing that even back in 2001 macs were able to last that long
I have a 2003 1.8 PowerMac G5 PCI-X and a 2006 aluminium Cinema Display, which i still use. They still look sleek and modern, even 15 years later.
I was stunned to see that your idea of “dusting” a tower computer is to wipe the interior with a static filled shammy towel. Use an air duster or compressor next time, as that will actually remove the dust, and is less risky for the internal components.
I wish I could leave more than just likes on this video. Props for having the patient to clean the keys individually
After the last video on the old displays + G5 towers, I thought "dang those are cool. I'll never see one of those irl ever" only to walk into my lab class and see a full setup on the table to run one of the printing machines.
The G5 was the first design since the Mac Plus (and related models) wherein one did not suffer multiple finger/knuckle (and wrist if you did it right!) skin lacerations whilst mucking about the internals in the name of upgrades and replacing the inevitable dead MDD “Quadnostril’” powersupply or replacing the expected dead Quicksilver motherboard with the more reliable Digital Audio motherboard. I gave LOTS of blood during the PPC years. I purchased a refurb’d dual 2.3GHz G5 from Apple’s refurb and clearance section in 2004 or thereabouts (moving up from a dual 1.42GHz MDD), and the “donor” chassis was apparently from a dead donor liquid-cooled G5, as it had the liquid cooling warning sticker inside the case. My dual 2.3GHz G5 was an amazing powerhouse of a system, although my electric utility bill shot up substantially due to amazing power demands. Running 10.5 and eventually topping out at 10.6.8 (I believe this is correct) I was able to do ALL my tasks (video editing, MIDI, Garageband, web development, design stuff, and of course GAMES!) until support for 10.5 and 10.6.8 was completely neutered (damn I really miss 10.6.8 - it was the BEST macOS version up until El Capitan… but I really miss Classic support in 10.5 but also legacy PPC support).
Thanks Luke. I got them included in a deal I bought from a lawyer with multiple mac pro computers, Could never understand why only one cable and thought he forgot the power supply to the monitor.
I’m still using mine; both the G5 and the display.
That display was designed for the G4 generation, specifically the G4 tower and G4 cube. Most people bought the Formac rival though, which was just as good and stylish but cheaper. You also need the apple speakers or the HK soundsticks.
I lusted after these back the early 2000s.
Some potential context for the keyboard, many of these graduated from design offices to commercial printing, and then to normal devices. This mean they were used as shop computers. I have seen a few of these peripherals in printing as newer devices get brought in. Same for some of these monitors which were needed for color matching purposes.
Sei il numero 1 Luke! Greetings from Italy
I absolutely loved that keyboard. Had the bluetooth version. It had the greatest feel, like a mechanical keyboard. I'd remove all the keys, soak them in soapy water, dry them and it was brand new.
Would have liked to see some apps running on it... great video!
Which liquid to you use for cleaning?
Not gonna lie, that setup was decades ahead of its time. The passthrough power and on display master on/off button is something I never knew I wanted and that case still looks good today.
Those keyboards are a joy to work on. I still use mine as a backup. But yeah, they are a pain to clean, and just attract crumbs, dust, oily grime, and even small insects into their under-key space... and since its all transparent, it's not hidden LOL
I have two questions.
And since my newest Imac is a 2010, I cannot address if the speakers are any better in newer Macs.
But why are the internal speakers in Macs so terrible where you have to resort to an external speaker and why hasn't Apple ever improved them ?
Also, I have NEVER seen anyone modding a Mac with better and newer speakers.
I am not referring to Apple's Home speaker nor the new forthcoming Home Mini since I have never had occasion to use one though I will be buying a Mini if we get a stimulus check.
I am tired of straining to hear videos where one video has great sound while another is barely audible.
This is usually not a problem on either of my Ipads.
Probably because the internal speaker is only meant to play that sweet startup sound? Maybe I'm misinterpreting the question here, but puting a speaker inside a tower pc case is a shit placement. And nobody modded them because it was easier to just use external speakers.
Great setup, this Power Mac you mentioned as a DC 2.0ghz was discontinued in August 2006 and exactly one year later my Intel Mac Mini 2.0ghz was lauched and smoked the Power Mac. The new 799 Mini was far ahead the 1999 Power Mac, very impressive that a change in architecture could improve so much such a tiny device.
Luke, you deserve so much more followers! I love your videos! I’m a fan from Brazil! ☺️
That monitor looks like it used the same design language as the PowerMac G3/G4. Its understandable why they changed it as the Power Mac g5 had no plastic covering its aluminum case.
BTW the 17 year old setup looks great. You could probably still do something like music production on that system with the right old software.
I had a ~2004 macbook pro with a arm processor, don't remember all details, but still the best computer I ever owned. Everyone is talking about the wake time on the new M1 silicon, but mine was just as fast 16 years ago. Msft/intel still can't match it today. I had an uptime of over a year, without rebooting or crashing. Can you even imagine Windows going a year without rebooting?
I would love to see a second channel from you that’s just skits or deadpan humor. I feel like you’d rock that format too
I also bought this SetUp in 2004 Brand New. I‘m still using it today for Adobe 7.0 and the Retro FinalCut pro X and some other stuff . And It work‘s like Brandnew. Thank you Steve Jobs to make that possible !
Also boot it in Single-user mode and remove the airflow shield. I used to run this system with a PowerPC optimised build of Leopard, (just restore from DMG directly to HD partition over TDM, reboot and boom, Setup Assistant, and it ran so fast with only PowerPC-native code running on the machine. Binary sizes were reduced such that the live install takes up just 4.7 GB as opposed to about 11 GB...
So the ADC connector is the Apple Display Connector connector?
Almost choked (on spaghetti) when Luke showed the MASSIVE power adapter XD
That machine filled all my needs and finally ushered me into the complete trust of Digital Music Production on a PC. It still holds up today in my book.
At least you can buy an adapter for the LCD Studio and Cinema displays... If you've got a ADC CRT Studio Display (like me), you'll have to build your own adapter from scratch.
Ah, a fellow CRT user! Those display do crazy good with an actual VGA card and some custom resolution trickery. I don't know how it works for macOS, but in linux, you can use cvt and xrandr to create custom VGA timings and resolutions.
Worked at CompUSA in 03' the difference in aesthetic between the G5 and the acrylic screen was always so hilarious. It was like once the G5 came out, we all realized that all previous industrial design was just....incorrect. Then I got the 12" powerbook a while later, and the acrylic blobs were just done for, looks wise.
If you have scratches on your translucent perpherals like mouse or even the transparent parts of an imac case, , just sand it lightly, buff and polish.
I have a late 2005 2.3 and I have the original recovery disks. Sure, I wouldn't use the thing to surf the web, but my daughter uses it for her art... and it works quite well. Is there cheaper, far more efficient options? Sure and we use them. But my daughter loves this classic and she's only 10... it's older then her! I probably wouldn't enjoy the single core model nearly as much but if you can get your hands on a 2.5 or 2.7 G5 core that should swap over. I upgraded a 2.5 to a 2.7 back in the day. No problem. Just make sure to run ASD to fix the fans and collaborate the system afterwards. Warming all 9 fans will run wild until you do.