I Replaced Pellets with Wood Chips in My Pellet Grill! See What Happens!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I replaced 50% of the pellets in my Pellet Smoker with wood chips (linked below) and reversed seared a whole Argentine picanha from gastro-markets.... These pellets were sized for use with the LSG, and I am not suggesting that they should be used with any other pellet grill. But, I can say that the result was amazing and added a much better smoky flavor than pellets alone! Lone Star Grillz is making the perfect size chips available to work with the auger. lonestargrillz.... There is no guarantee that this technique will work with all pellet grills, but it sure works with LSG!
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This was a Great one Greg! Cant believe someone else hasn't done this. Trying this tomorrow on Dino Ribs. Respect Brother!
@@wfodavid Lemme' know how it works out. Remember, I'm only guaranteeing that this will work on the LSG with their chips.
I made your bean recipe last night for a bbq today. I tried it fresh out of the smoker and it was so good I had to stop myself from getting a third serving
Thank you! Yeah... Those beans should be illegal!
That looks awesome! Very cool that you can add wood chips👍😊
Thanks for checking it out Bobbi!
A fantastic looking picanha. It turned out great. Cheers, Greg! 👍🏻👍🏻✌️
If you make another wood chip pellet grill video, I'd like to see what the burn pot looks like after the cook. And we didn't see how the chips burned up in the burn pot.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll get that done for you.
Stand by for the wood chip videos all over youtube now!
That's cool I've always been a stick burner ,cook I also have a pellet smoker for them.relaxing days I'm definitely going to try that with the chips on my smoker!!
I will try this on my YS640S. The short auger on the Lone Star like the Yoder I believe it would work. Wouldn't try it on one with a central firebox(pit boss, GMG, traeger).
I agree 100% that this would work in the Yoder.
I'm very nervous about trying this. I'll wait for more videos.
More to come James. Thanks for stopping by!
I have been doing this 50/50ish mix in my smoke tubes, and even that you can taste the difference.
Interesting idea, but I am curious about how the wood chips effect the overall burn and if it leaves more residue (ash & burned wood pieces) to fill up your fire pot, especially on a long cook..
Great question Gerry. I'll be checking out how my firebox/chamber looks tomorrow.
@@BallisticBBQ How was the chamber?
@@6AM_YT It was clean. I'm shooting a video right now of a longer cook. I'll show the chamber and the burn pot at the end of the cook.
@@BallisticBBQ I’m thinking about ordering a bag.
@@6AM_YT So, they're shipping them 20 lbs in a box. My new video will go up Sunday and is very detailed, answering all of the questions I received. I did beef short ribs, which took 5 hours, but I'm running the pit for three more, so I have an 8-hour burn. The ribs were excellent, just like off of a stick burner. I show the chips, and they're not like the ones you get off of the shelf, so if you want to try this I'd go with their chips.
I might try this. I have a Yoder and bought a little rack that goes next to the burn pit. I put a wood chunk on it and it smolders causing more smoke. Never tried wood chips. A comparison video would be nice.
Smouldering wood is not the same as cooking with the lit wood. Smouldering wood for too long is nothing but dirty smoke. The wood needs to actually ignite at some point to get you closer to that stick burner quality.
Do the chips burn a lot faster than the pellets? Will a hopper full of 50/50 burn for 8-10 hrs at 250? I have the same pellet grill.
Camp Chef has added a feature to add wood or charcoal to a pellet smoke
Yes, I have that grill. It's a separate feature, acting much like a smoke-tube works. Thanks for watching!
You have a link to everything in this video except what the video was about, the wood chips.
Wonder is it works with camp chef
Great video brother! My wood chips are en route!
I do a mixture for first couple so 4 to 5 get both and do pellets for rest of cook .... I am trying to make grilling cheaper .... also I got a pit barrel cooker its cost me 4 bucks for 8 hr cook that is best money to do cooks
I get picanha prime at my local grocery store in nj by asking them to get the cap (ask for trimmed w fat on!!!). Arguably the best steak you can get. 8.99/lb
YUP! I do the same thing at my butcher's. Cap with fat on!
What about adding a smoke daddy?
What was the final verdict? Also, would this be ok to do this in a center firebox campchef?
They are sold out of the wood chips..
Sup Greg, outstanding video, my friend will be happy to see, doesn't use his pellet cuz not enough smoke flavor, the sirloin cap/picanha you absolutely nailed it bro, I bet thin enough I could eat it as is, yea still hoping for teeth 🤣😂😭, the sirloin cap is so hard to get here, easier to get whole sirloin, thin slice after removing cap, great sandwich, and now I know tartare lol. I'm sure you are those fat ends after, glad didn't trim them off, great to see ya tyvm tc 🍔🥩
It was good Ronald! Thanks for stopping in brother. Hope you're on the mend!
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Can using wood chips possible cause problems with the auger on my Traeger? e.g. cause the "feeding" of the burn chamber to stop?
I’ve never been able to find wood chips that small.
Is the picania cut over sized sirloin? What cut of meat is it so i know what to look snd adk the butcher for, or what to look for st our Costco 😁👍
Picanha, coulotte, top sirloin cap are all the same cut of meat. The fancier the name, the more they charge though!
There is a difference, pellet smokers are super easy but the flavor is with natural wood.
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Interesting 🤔
What make and model smoker do you use
Was the amount of ash/residue left over different than just with pellets? This is a very interesting idea!
Thanks for asking, I'll be showing the burn-pot and chamber on my next video. Cheers, Terry!
Cut against the grain next time. Otherwise not too shabby
hmmmmmmmmm.... im scared 😔
2x the price of quality pellets. 😢
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The meat is raw, why is this a video about smoking? This is not smoking it is eating meat that is not cooked. You wasted pellets and 10 minutes of my life.
That's a cool idea. I can see people jamming up their Traegers trying to replicate this with wood chips from their chippers. I'd imagine the chips would have to be screened to the perfect size because big chunks or saw dust would cause problems
I can't vouch for other pellet grills. I'm sure certain ramps and augers could cause issues. LSG is selling specially sized out chips just for this technique. I'm sold on it though. Can't wait to try this on a brisket.
What if I ran wood chips through a blender to make them smaller?
@@mikepotapa5773 These chips are pretty uniform in size. They average about 1/2" square and 1/8" thick.
@@BallisticBBQ Anyone try this on their traeger yet?
Or the Pit Boss?
Waiting to see if this will work on an affordable grill.
I can tell you right now it won't work on a pit boss lockheart had to replace my whole auger system because of wood chips
And the reverse sear will it work on my green mountain grill Daniel Boone because there is no flame port
Sure I can crank it to 500 but without a flame is it really a sear
Just save up and enjoy what you’ve earned
It worked on my charcoal burning $40 Grill from Family Dollar
Pellets for these grills are specifically designed to have super low 1-4% moisture content. The reason for this is because with more moisture the auger can clog up, causing the motor to burn out, auger to seize, and overall caking of the burner assembly. I cannot speak for these wood chips but I can only assume they have at least 10%+ moisture content (great for smoking) but bad for these kinds of grills. Best to just use what is designed and enjoy what it can do. Or use minimally invasive methods like the Smoke Daddy Heavy D burner plate, which allows some thick wood to be burnt without clogging the burner assembly.
I was thinking of adding the heavy d to my pellet smoker. But I already have the smoke daddy cold smoke attached to my grill. It does a decent job of adding more smoke to the grill. I also have the benefit of smoking stuff without adding heating it up. Like cheeses and stuff.
Do you think I could do this in my Traeger? Thanks!
I did something like this with my pellet smoker .... I did pellets and busted up charcoal briquettes. Turned out really well ... I'll have to give this a try for sure!!!
They have charcoal pellets, don't know if they are any good, but maybe worth a try
I inadvertently got some smoking wood chips mixed into my pellet hopper for my pellet grill. It resulted in a 2 hour disassembly of the pellet auger and drive system. Clogged incredibly bad. Maybe my bad luck?
Not sold.
You can buy Lumberjack 100% hickory pellets for example that are the same as hickory chips, in other words exactly the same wood. I'd rather mix pellets than chips and avoid a potential jam in the middle of my cook.
Lumberjack pellets are one of a few that ARE made with living trees so contain all of the flavoring compounds found in chips or chunks. When people use them for the first time they notice how much better the flavor is which is why adding chips will make a noticeable difference if using a brand of pellets that use filler woods or flavoring oils.
@@kennybaumann2117 Correct and why I only use them. When you buy by the pallet you can get a good assortment to mix pellets.
Tried 50/50 with my camp chef and it got stuck. The cups are too thin and got wedged in the tube and auger. Darn.
I like the ease and convenience of my pellet smoker, but LOVE the flavor of a stick smoker! This would be next to perfect for me! Thanks Greg!
Thanks for watching Dave!
These do not work on my Camp Chef Grill. They jam the auger. They will not go to waste. I will use them in my smoke tubes
why wouldn't you use 100% of those wood chips
From what I understand, you need the pellets for heat. They pack more energy than chips.
I find this very interesting. I mix wood chips with pellets in a smoke tube, once I even did chips only, but I have to sort through the chips and pick out the big pieces. Also, I have to pack the mixture into the tube with a steel rod because the chips won't settle. I am definitely going to pursue this. You didn't mention anything about the flavor of the meat, which would be the only advantage to doing this blend. Thanks.
I too have been doing the chips pellets in a tube for years. I think it works great. Only thing I use chips for.
@@derekreed8366 do you sort out the big pieces? Some are so big they'll barely fit in the tube. Some brands are worse than others.
@David I usually layer in. Handful pellets, handful chips. I don't really sort them. Pretty lucky I guess. But I always end and light on pellets.
There was a definite difference in the smoky flavor, but the big test will be a low n slow cook. This video (for me) was to test how well the cooker ran with the chips. I'm pretty confident that there won't be any feeding issues in my LSG, using these sized out chips.
@@BallisticBBQ I just ordered a box. Thanks again.
Fuck yea!
Cool video but the meat was way under cooked for me
This is intriguing! I use smoke tubes in my Traeger because I am nowhere near satisfied with the smoke flavor. I still wonder if these wood chips would jam the auger.
Not a sales pitch, but the chips LSG are selling are small and thick. Since they've passed the test, I would go with them if you're going to try this in your Traeger.
So there is a trick I will try to make it work, soak the chips for some times in the water them dry them a little. You can use them in the burning box itself. Soaking the chips will give them longer burning hours. This is a tip the bedouin of Saudi Arabia has been using for ages to keep the wood burning for longer
@@ahmedbinsaleh7895 if you don't have a pellet smoker with an offset firepot and a deeper drop off into the firepot, I would not even try it...and you should certainly not try running straight WET wood chips in the hopper in ANY pellet smoker!
Ok, but can you burn 100% wood chips? This is interesting
He replied elsewhere about the pellets having more energy whereas the chips may not even ignite…
I wonder if maybe a 20-25% blend would suffice - or partially load with a 50% to ensure ignition and then fill with 25 to continue
I’m in australia and have the Weber smokefire, which use the smaller Weber/lumber jack / cabello pellets… thus these chips might still be a little large, assuming I could even get them here
Chris with LSG says, "up to 50/50," so I think 25% + would be fine. He tried 100%, and the pit ran but stayed in the 220ºF range.
This is why we cannot have nice things
A brand named Chigger Creek sold @ Ace Hardware is a fine cut chip that "might" be in the same realm of concept as this. Have not tried, but eager to give it a shot.
The key is small, thick chips. Lemme' know if they work for you.
I'll check my Ace...I have a RecTec so built better than Traeger and GMG. I bet the hopper won't have an issue. I am going to try this too!
Do the math guy's. These wood chips are expensive. It will add up later on and especially if you smoke a lot. Just save up and buy an offset smoker or a gravity fed charcoal/wood smoker.
Good stuff Greg! I'm not sure I'd try this chips in my other pellet grills. But, I dig the idea behind it. Hope all is well brother. Talk soon.
This is a great idea to get more smoke flavor on your pellet cooks.
Chris, if you're reading the comments, I'd love to try this on a LSG pellet BBQ (hint hint)
Long video, but very interesting Greg!
One thing to keep in mind is that most wood pellets are a blend of 40-60% oak, which in my opinion waters down the flavor profile. Fortunately however if you look around you can find 100% hickory, cherry, apple and mesquite pellets for a slight premium (but still cheaper than whole wood chunks/chips).
Alder is usually the base for pellets, oak burns to hot. Same for wood fired pizza ovens the preferred wood is alder
@@rodneywestbrook8324not true at all
Oak is one of the best and most used smoking woods, even in pellet form. Most wood fired pizza joints use oak and in Texas is almost unheard of to smoke meats with anything but oak, and they have some of the best bbq in the country/world
Can you use regular chips, or are those special?
I'm not going to say you can't use regular chips, but these are produced just for this technique.
Very interesting. I need to try this with my Pitboss
Hey brother, did you try this with your Pitboss. Do you have a side or center fire box? What were the results?
@@aviator1352 I haven’t tried them yet. I have a 700 classic and a pro series 850.
@@SGB_72 That's cool, Just wondering if this would even work on a center fire box like my AustinXL.
Wow! That's one of the best things I have ever seen! I watch a lot of cooking! Very cool! Amazing job! Very impressive!
Thanks for watching!
This is really interesting. When I was still using my pellet smoker I always used the Lumber Jack Hickory/Charcoal blend pellets mixed 40/60 with all other pellets. For example if I wanted to smoke something with cherry I would use 40% of that Hickory/Charcoal blend and 60% cherry pellets. I felt that charcoal blend pellet was the only thing that got you close to the flavor you get with a side by side. This looks like an even better solution.
This technique holds promise, but be aware that using it on your new, or relatively new, pellet grill (other than one of the Lone Star brand) will likely void any warranty you might have - should problems arise. I'm looking forward to your low n' slow test run, Greg.
Precisely! I would NOT try this with center placed firepot pellet smokers. Just the mere distance the wood chips would have to travel would increase the chance they'd jam up under the auger and cause it to bind up. The auger placement and design on these LSG Pellet Smokers are different from most out there. The auger itself is very short and open centered and the drop off into the firepot is such that any burn back is highly unlikely.
I'm going to try it in my GMG
Lemme' know how it works. Again, my disclaimer is the LSG chips are measured up for this technique. Small and thick.
@Ballistic BBQ I understand, I'll take the risk, nothing ventured, nothing gained
Did it work. Tempted to do in a camp chef
@@gregwilliams2066 still got to order the chips from LSG
Got my chips and the auger couldn't handle it. It groaned and was feeding the chips but was under a lot of strain then the auger let go and bit the dust. I've had the grill 8 yrs so it doesn't owe me anything. I'll get a new motor and be up and running in no time.
What would interesting is to do a side by side
I looked at this company in Conroe that makes the pellet cookers and they start at $ 2,600 and go up to over $ 3,000.
I'm glad I got a Pit Boss 1150 from Lowe's for $ 600.00, on sale with $400+ off during black Friday sale.
Thanks for this Greg. Hopefully I just saved 900 bucks on a Masterbuilt gravity series. I’m going to try a small mixture for my woodwind pellet grill. I’ll probably work my way up to 50-50 once I see that they flow through the auger. Take care, fellow, SD’er,mac.
I also have a woodwind pellet. Please let us know how it works out. I am very interested in this as I tend to burn wood chips in a box on the grate and it’s a pain in the ass to have to keep checking and adding more all the time.
Nice idea, but these wood chips run $2/#; that's like 7x the cost of classic pellets, so they don't make sense for my needs. Mesquite pellets in my smoke tube works great for me.
*So I watch the whole 12 min video???...So did it work like an offset???...waiting and waiting for him to say something?????....He just kept Talking about the Meat!!! (Which I can NEVER afford btw)...The whole point of the video is getting your Food to taste Smoked like an offset does!!!...so did this work or not?*
I bet those chips do add a nice additional smoke flavor. Picanha looked amazing Greg! It's the Queen of all meats, right? LOL Cheers brother!!!!
So far so good Troy! That was some good eats brother!
I love this idea for shorter closely monitored cooks. But having experienced an auger fire with smoke billowing out of the hopper, id be reluctant to do a cook that needed the hopper filled more than a quarter of the way.
This isn't for every pellet grill, and these chips are cut specifically with this method in mind.
Were you using an LSG Pellet Smoker? The way the auger is designed, there is a drop off from where the auger is and the actual burn pot. The chance of burn back is pretty non existent.
@@javar2r3ra Yes, Rob. I'm using an LSG.
@@BallisticBBQ sorry brother, I was replying to the guy above your reply. Unless you have a hopper/auger design that allows the drop off of the pellets, there could be serious issues with those center chamber firepots with those long augers.
@@javar2r3ra No worries, brother. I should have noticed that you were talking to Daniel!
Wondering if would work on my grilla grill...🤔
I do this with a smoke tube for extra flavor. I still wanna keep the pellets to maintain temps.
Do you mean to you pack your smoke tube with a 50/50 blend of chips and pellets or just chips?
Yes .. small hand full of pellets, then chips... each time alternating. Then I light the pellets. I found this gives the chip flavor but a longer pellet burn.
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I found this way really is the best. I do this with my electric smoker. Hickory pellets and apple chips sometimes pecan chips. Then I get my barbecue up to 700f for my sear. I also cook to 125f and find that the best rare for me. This works with any beef cut to be honest. Just take your time on the smoke and keep it low. The lower the longer therefore more smoke.
lol well done.
Any cut of beef? I'd like to see you take a brisket to 125 and sear it off. Hope you have sharp teeth and enjoy lots of unrenderd fat.
Will this wood chip method work on any pellet grill auger/hopper/fire box?
Looking forward to seeing your long cook results soon! Thanks for sharing.
Hey Dash. Even though I'm leaving and selling everything, I had to try this. I ordered the chips from LSG (expensive). I plan to try this with brisket as my last bbq experience here.
Cheers, Dash!
Maybe I've missed it but you did talk how Argentinien know there beef but I didn't hear what effect the smoke had on the beef as this is a pellet smoker that is known for its low smoke profile.
It seems to be a good idea, but I can see the auger getting clogged up pretty quick. It would be just smarter to buy a pellet grill that can burn wood on to give you a better bark and flavor then just pellets. Oh yeah, that’s right it’s called a camp chef…………
I don't want to jam up my auger but if it works on a Traeger, I'm game, but I did mix them in a smoke tube and I could taste the difference on the chicken I cooked.
think this could work on my recteq 1250?
Wow... Just wow...
why would you buy product from Brazil. buy american, i did not fight to protect a foreign country!
You’re awesome Greg! do you think this will feed ok on the YS640? I’m excited to try the wood chips.
I think it would probably work on the YS. Give it a try and let me know!
picanha is over rated. Its basically a less tender Prime rib. give us a good high quality prime ribeye roast or steak instead everytime.
don't put wood chips in a pellet smoker. the thinner side of the chips get caught between the auger and the the side of the tube and jam it. This broke my smoker.
Asked this question months ago with know answer, what type of auger motor does this pellet grill have??
Cant understand why someone would recommend foreign beef. Support your local farmer.
Makes sense there’s a difference in flavour profile - the process of pelletising involves high pressure, generates heat, and you can smell it happening so you must lose some aromatics.
I have been waiting for some videos on using the chips ever since they teased a video using the chips a month or so ago. The open center auger design of the LSG pellet grill is what really makes this possible. This will create issues in almost all other pellet cookers (I know your not vouching for using in anything but the LSG). I ordered my LSG 20x42 pellet grill at the beginning of February, and it is finally shipping tomorrow. Thanks for putting out some content on it. Look forward to seeing the real test, low and slow. My first task will be trying to get it out of the shipping crate ⚒️
FWIW: The old Traeger Texas (BBQ075) also has an unrestricted auger at the hopper, b/c the wide barrel needed the extra BTU's. The smaller grills (Little Tex: BBQ070) have the restrictor. I bet this would work there as well.
This is crazy Greg, I was just wondering if this would work last week, no way, very cool, I'm scared it would jam the auger though, I might try it who knows.
Thanks for stopping by Gary. Honestly, if you're going to try this consider buying the LSG wood chips. They're small (1/2"x1/2") but thick.
Could you do like a bunch of comparisons on how it actually performs vs like other grills, how it compares to cooking on a stick burner, just pellets vs this 50/50 blend, etc.. It would be nice to know if it is really worth doing this or if there is really that much of difference between not doing it. Thanks
Great idea! It's going to be some work, but would make a great video!
@@BallisticBBQ thanks, I think it would definitely make some great content. Might also help out a bunch of people looking for better cooks on their pellet grills. Maybe eventually doing this can become more adopted. Thanks for your great videos
If you find a butcher that doesn't know what a picana is, then they are not a real butcher!
Where did you get the Picaña from? Local butcher? Or shipped?
I just ordered my first pellet (Recteq 380 Bullseye), and was leery about the whole smoke thing. This video gives me great ideas, and I will be looking into doing the same thing. Thoughts...? Also, the website for the beef looks great too. So many of the online butchers are soo much more expensive than what I can get locally. Great video and tips...
Have you tried this on your 380 yet? I've got the same smoker, am worried I'd destroy it lol. I'm interested in the charcoal pellets but haven't bought any yet
Perfect! Have you tried wood chips on your Yoder YS640?
Wow Greg! - As you said - this could be a game-changer!
My first smoker - the Camp Chef Woodwind Pro is finally coming (in Canada) in July - Can't wait.
Although it has "the smoke box" I think this is a great alternative for any pellet smoker, and I'm certainly willing to try it. - Cheers!
the camp chef is absolutely the game changer...you will love it
Did you try these chips in your camp chef yet? If so, any issues?
@@gregwilliams2066 Still waiting for delivery - Next week or two hopefully.
HORRIBLE idea. Please do NOT do this--I tried it-meticulously use only very small chips and it jammed WS my auger. Luckily I fixed it (had to take it apart). Try the charcoal smoke box method.
That pellet grill has an open auger design that allows for use of those specific wood chips. That pellet smoker is 100% ok with running wood chips through with no issues.
Normal Pellets grills like Campchef, Traeger, Pit Boss etc... cant do this as they dont have an open auger design.