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By the way, I discovered Schopenhauer at a bad time, I was facing an existential trauma, and then in my darkest depression, he came like an angel. Somehow his pessimistic philosophy was a cure (which I will reveal in my future book). I highly recommend his, and Epectitus's work to people who feel depressed ... Too much optimism is poison, and too much craving for pleasure and money it leads to disaster.
I have given up trying to understand the concept of noumena, but his idea of ‘blind will’ as a driving force of the universe was easier to comprehend. I read “Der lachende Schopenhauer” by Ralph Wiener, a selection of Schopenhauer’s writings from his books and letters. There were unsparing words about Hegel, academia, religions, women, Germans etc. I couldn’t help smiling. Only a genius can afford to be as extremely honest as him. Anyway, you made me take an interest in this remarkable man, so thank you (as always).
Excellent Work... Schopenhauer is the most intelligent person has ever been. Hegel can't articulate his ideas clearly as Schopenhauer did. Whenever I start re-reading Essays of Schopenhauer I feel like reading my natural logic. He is so accurate, so direct, so logical and never stops giving you his logical and reasonable examples. Since I discovered this great man in 2014, he became my religion and because of him I am learning German language and I aiming to write a book following his philosophical theories. Great Video, Thank you
This guy was another fine example of making the right observations and drawing the wrong conclusions... Saw the false self for what it was but chose to handle it with more repression instead of grieving and release from trauma.
@@aisthpaoitht I think Nietzsche got most of it right IMHO. At face value when taken out of context and applied outward, his concepts have been incredibly damaging, seeing as they were used by his sister after his death to further her own agenda. But when applied inward, the whole master and slave mentality lies at the basis of human existence. Haves and have nots. A master chooses, a slave obeys. He obeys not his master but his circumstance. He does not choose to overcome because he does not understand his circumstance. Understanding can only be gained after accepting the situation but he struggles internally against it and hence the second step cannot naturally ensue. I believe this was what was meant and not at all to go and enslave others as the Natsiz did, perverting his meaning. Also of note is the concept of Amor Fati and eternal recurrance, overcoming one's fate by acceptance and understanding. I know it seems defeatist at first glance but this is crucial because without understanding, the man is an animal, purely mechanistic and devoid of choice. To understand is to choose. Only when one's circumstance has been understood (along with all the factors that have lead to it) can it then be overcome because recognizing this is to say there couldn't have possibly been any other way. If you into metaphysics check out Theoria Apophasis channel: some novel stuff there that can't be found elsewhere.
I only knew a little bit about Shopenhauver from high school but even that made him one of my favourite philosophers (along with Kirkegaard). Thank you for info ❤
This was a really good presentation...comprehensive, fair and easy to understand for the laymen. A lotta info packed into just 30 minutes. Your work is much appreciated!
Actually, Schopenhauer was an optimist! He had no fear of his conclusions. “An optimist believes it’s true. A pessimist fears it’s true”. - J. Robert Oppenheimer
Excellent presentation. On Love- so complicated at times.True, people get bored. I revisit old sayings differently these days, like - " Try to get along." Other sayings, long ago, that sounded trite, now make more sense in their simplicity- "Keep your expectations low ( in some situations)."
The first, very general, analogy between Schopenhauer’s metaphysics and present-day physics relates to the “theory of everything”. With his concept of the Will as the only motor of the world didn’t he prefigure the contemporary quest for the unification of the four fundamental forces of physics? (Teutsch, Georges: Reading Schopenhauer in the light of present-day science. Schopnehauer-Jahrbuch 93 (2012) , p. 356) In Schopenhauer’s thought, of course, will is not simply or merely the human being’s decision-making organ; it is rather an impersonal principle underlying all reality - and it may be closely akin to what the quantum theorists understand as the inner nature of subatomic reality - the quantum chaos and flux, moderated by […] tendency and probability. (Marcin, Raymond B.: Schopenhauer’s metaphysics and contemporary Quantum Theory. Schopenhauer-Jahrbuch 93 (2012), p. 340) What contemporary quantum physics seem tob e telling us ist hat deep down, way below the microscopic level, the world is not a world of spatially and temporally located particles of matter - it is not the world of phenomena. Particleness itself is a subjective imposition that enterst he picture only when an observer enters. (Marcin, Raymond B.: Schopenhauer’s metaphysics and contemporary Quantum Theory. Schopenhauer-Jahrbuch 93 (2012), p. 353)
Schopenhauer has uplifted so many people that it’s inadequate to say he was a philosopher of “pessimism”. The more you read of his work, the more you grasp the enormous range of his vision. He was the last of the great European philosophers who encompassed the breadth and meaning of nature - including science, art, music. He was also the first European to investigate and understand Asian philosophy and thinking. Despite the significant increase in “scholarly” books and articles in the last decade, there are still enormous areas that remain uninvestigated to date. For example, recently Bernardo Kastrup, the protean physicist, has made a serious advance in thinking about Schopenhauer’s formal thinking in metaphysics, outdistancing older analysis. The elegy Schopenhauer wrote in memory of his father, on his father’s death, is one of the most moving and unforgettable father-son encomiums ever written.
Masterfully you take us through philosophy, history, books and further my understanding immensely. Pessimism and Schopenhauer❤️These German philosophers , Nietzsche blows one awake. Again, I thank you so much.
"We can only be entirely ourselves as long as we are alone; therefore, whoever does not love solitude, also does not love freedom; for only when we are alone, are we free." Schopenhauer 9:47
S. states that Will is an undifferentiated Unity, (The One). But this is the same as Plato's Good and the "One" of Plotinus,. Also, he equates the Will with Consciousness, but this is the same as Shankara's undifferentiated Unity, or Brahman. Also, he identifies the culprit as Maya, but this is the same as the Buddhist and Hindu concept. As to the means of merging into The One, he offers music. But this is basically the method in the Rig Veda, which offers specific mantras or sounds as portals into the Transcendent (what S. calls The Sublime). The foremost example of this is the Mahamritunjaya mantra in the Rig Veda (cf. sacred Sounds Choir). There re countless types of music but not all are conducive to merging into "The One" in a nondual state of Consciousness.
Consciousness is conscious of itself, others and things. The empathetic consciousness and intelligence in nature is indifferent. Nature will replicate and copy itself, consume and sustain itself, terminate and recycle itself. Reality is its own observer. Nature is aware its being observed, we are nature observing itself. And nature created us before we were aware of it. We never created existence. We're part of it and init. We're one of its many forms. We can change our own reality and physiology within reason and logic, but we can't change nature and reality as it is. We cant fully perceive reality for what it is. We can change our response to reality, we can effect how reality responds to us as in change of attitude. That effects how we are perceived and how others react to us. We can change our reality in that sence. Change of perception and attitude, point of view etc etc. The conscious intelligence in nature and our cells i think is empathetic conscious intelligence that is indifferent, empathy without compassion is the ability to be aware of self, others and objects. Empathy with compassion is the ability to feel others suffering and to be able to relate to other beings. A cell is aware of itself, what it is and what it does, it is also aware of other cells, they even communicate. It will always preform at 100% until it doesn't. And when its degrading it will still push 100% and shut parts of itself down and terminate itself saving itself. It will do this without a second thought, no getting swayed by other desires and emotions outside of its own survival. Its purpose is to survive and replicate its self over and over again, its all it knows. And it will consume itself to survive. What we see as it destroying itself. Is actually conservation and recycling. Empathetic conscious intelligence that is indifferent without compassion is like a robot. Through drugs and sleep paralysis hallucinations and observing my senses/perception. This is the order i place things in. Consciousness is the main thing. Its like its there aware of me while am aware of it but am also are it and init. Consciousness, devine/natural spark. Gut, appetite and instincts. Heart, Body and feelings/emotions. Mind, ego, higher self. Logic and reason! Ability to calculate and evaluate, judgments and imagination, perceptions, questions and answers. Pure consciousness has no questions or answers. Its pure contentment and a sence of all knowing.
It's fashionable to talk about Quantum Mechanics, but also in Classical Physics it's impossible to make a measurement without influencing the thing that you are measuring. In most cases, the impact is too small to be important, though. And for the 2nd law of thermodynamics: It doesn't say things are developing towards chaos. It says things are developing towards higher entropie, which means higher probability of the state. Example: Put hot and could water together, and you get lukewarm water. The latter state is certainly not more chaotic than the one you started with. It is just more likely.
At 23:59 - "that everything else becomes irreverent to you." should be "that everything becomes irrelevant to you." Remarkably, quite mis-state the underlying idea.
The explanation of the nonexistence or bliss here is the sublime and what Joseph Campbell calls "the experience of being alive." Can you reconcile the two definitions of bliss? Perhaps that "nonbeing" is recognition of one consciousness. When our breath is "taken away" as when a chill runs down our spine at the sublime we breathe in and not out and hold our breath. This isn't expiration of a last breath. It is a holding on to our breath.
Upanishads basically Question everything Written in the Vedas, Early Indo-European Religious Literature. It's a Rebellion of ideas of People who Dare to Question. 😊
I think Schopenhauer would be less sanguine about music if he heard heavy metal. In his day music was about melody, harmony, rhythm and timing. All classical elements. That concept of music was blown away by jazz, and the introduction of polyrhythms. And music can be quite bombastic and patriotic. If art is at one with Nature, and nature is blind, how can its appreciation be transcendental? Here I think our philosopher is an aesthete.
We don't act irrationally but according to the species goals, which uses our individual passions, to achieve it's own goals. And that's rational, at the species level. Try Hegel next time, it's interesting too.
The question is not "Is Schopenhauer's philosophy a good thing?", the question is "Is his philosophy true?". There is no good or bad. There is just false or true.
My problem with the pessimists is always the claim that only suffering is real. Suffering is a concept just as much as joy and peace - so why aren't they real also?
First of all thanks for the video it was very enjoyable. But I wouldn't say his conclusion was "non-religious". I understand why you chose this phrasing but it's really more accurate to say he was anti-Catholic. His conclusions might as well just be a repackaging of eastern spirituality for western audiences, which are religious systems. Also you see similar ideas and conclusions even in past western religious movements - in gnosticism, manicheanism, catharism etc. Schopenhauer didn't just spring out of nowhere with this stuff, this philosophy has a legacy, and in the past did manifest itself in religious movements. Also I think it's a disservice to call Schopenhauer "pessimistic" because when he's read with an open mind this philosophy is truly liberating and life affirming.
He should be the existential guru. Irrationality is the paradox of good and evil. Watched a video on a couple parenting a child in the most unorthodox way. Child has the freedom to develop almost completely on her own. No education, no limitations, no cultural dogma. The parents know that by leading and not imposing they will allow the potential negativity to bloom into positivity or survival by cognitive selection. The approach dismissises the expectation of compulsory behavior and allows the child to develop and realize the merit of survival instinct and personal autonomy. Another example is pedophilia. Apparently adult men have lost the human connection they once had as children. Alienated. This alienation is generational and perpetuated by victims who become perpetrators. The clashing between reason and Irrationality blurs the line between what's positive and what's negative. It's only a matter of which energy provides the most power .
Brilliant video. Seems like it took a lot studying. Thank you for your efforts. This video is a great help. Can you or anyone help me find a source for What Is Schopenhours Will's source. How did it come to existece and maybe he's ideas on why is there something rather than nothing Also, i'd like a source on Cristism Of Schopenhour's Blind Will. Maybe how humans are exception for Blind Will apart from animals and objects.
nature, unified force, kind of sounds like pantheism then. actually, that sounds like a lot of other religions too, just not the ones where you worship some unnecessarily anthropomorphized 'higher' entities, which are oddly often some kind of patriarchal ruling over type of deal.. really just the same as some king of some land but ×2, or more.. whatever.. 👀you mean specifically corrupted over-simplified 'spiritual' belief systems/as all religions. you mean the popular and corrupted ones only. 1:04 because this sounds like the gist of many other spiritual belief systems/religions.
Your body is participating in so many in voluntary activities. For example…our heart is breathing, our body is adjusting to the temperature of the atmosphere, our stomach is digesting our food….all that we feel, see or touch, is just a small part of our experience as human beings…the universe is much more active than it appears…it’s constantly moving in many directions….microscopic changes are taking place every microsecond….on the surface it appears to be still….but if we could look at that stillness closely then we will see that it is in fact dynamic and moving at a breathtaking pace….
All that points to is that you are only a result of a gigantic equation or algorithm working underneath. Invisible to our senses. Our senses are like walls, caging us inside a limited space.
Wow! Just what I was waiting for. Would you have time to review one of Bernardo Kastrup s books? Kastrup is heavily influenced by Schopenhauer. Wonderful vid 🙌🏽🤙🏽
First thanks for the kind words. I have seen a few videos of Bernardo Kastrup. the man is full of wisdom and also incredibly articulate. Which of his books you reccomend?
@@Fiction_Beast thenks man 🙌🏽 Deconstructing Schopenhauer and also Deconstructing Jung , might be worthwhile books? Or maybe just one of them? So pleased you also like Kastrup! 🙌🏽🤙🏽
concept of maya, nirvana, non duality, etc., oscillates between all indian philosopies/religion,,, its better to be generic and mention them as indic religions/philospies,,, (i appreciate your work,, Good luck)
But we can in fact eliminate our striving for sex and etc... Many things are achievable through constant training and those (sex, food and pleasure) are no difference One can suppress something in such dimension that it will die.
Well at least he rejected the two dominant worldviews for human behavior; nonetheless, Schopenhauer presents an interesting but fanciful idea in much the same way scientists considered "the humours" as bases for much behavior. Or an "aether" permeating the universe. Schopenhauer had no conception of genes, evolutionary biology, behavioral economics or even computational biology. There's obviously zero methods to test any of Schopenhauer's hypotheses, but they remain as almost poetic approaches to questions well beyond his era as a colorful tour in the history of ideas, but as footnotes not building blocks.
3-One - Popper is fascinating. But does he fit in Fiction Beasts genre of existentialism focused thinkers? I do love Popper, his clear description of Falsifiability iwas an AhHa moment for me.
I wonder to what degree Schopenhauer absorbed and appreciated Darwin. Doesn't the theory of evolution very much address the origins of our will and driving will to reproduction? We have this drive to reproduce simply because our ancestors who also had such a will and were more likely to reproduce than those who did not. In other words, amorous people made a disproportionate contribution to the gene pool, thus making the will to life more ubiquitous.
@Fiction_Beast I consistently forget how late Darwin made his observations. The theory of evolution seems so obvious that it is amazing that it took so long. Humans had been selectively breeding dogs and farm animals for thousands of years. Why nobody looked at that and said "Perhaps the environment played a role in the development of all species". I guess hindsight is 20/20
Even straight people have sex not thinking of procreation. Among animals this is more clear. Nature has to entice us with nectar to achieve its pollination goals and we only think of nectar, not procreation.
@@Fiction_Beast That doesn't really answer the question, though. I said that I wonder what Schopenhauer would've thought about it if he concludes that, at bottom, we are driven to procreate.
For Schopenhauer, it is not us who does the driving, we are driven by the blind will. The blind will is the driver and we are the vehicle of procreation.
@@Fiction_Beast I understand that. This doesn't answer how he reconciles the "blind" will toward procreation and being gay, or having sex out of simple pleasure. Believe me, I'm well versed in Schopenhauer. He doesn't talk much about that part, though. If there is indeed an underlying "blind" will that is the same in everyone and everything, and it somehow strives toward procreation, then why is it expressly different in gay people? Why do so many have no underlying urge whatsoever to procreate? Do their bodies simply interact with this so-called "Will" differently?
As I said earlier sex is mostly an unconscious urge so being gay or straight makes no difference. The will is blind so it throws things out there until something catches something. It’s like a climbing plant throws a tendril in every way and direction until it latches onto something. Whether gay or straight the act of sex is just a tendril trying to latch onto something. As it turns out, in nature sex is almost always for pleasure first and procreation is almost an afterthought for the individuals involved. The blind will doesn’t care if a small or big proportion of individuals engage in non-procreative sex, as long as there is enough who produce, life goes on. Even if one species die out, it doesn’t matter as long as life itself goes on in other forms.
I don't find it difficult at all. For one God didn't create existence. God IS the creator and the creation. The creation of the universe came first. Then the days and nights. Then the earth and then the animals AND THEN THE HUMANS. So. are you referring to human existence? bc if using God in your argument you have to do it within the context of His word (the Bible) which means you were created last and there were things existing in creation before you. So what specific existence do you mean";]
@@Whitters40 I personally think God is 'Babadook' and his word (The Babadook Tales) explains everything about the world. You should embrace 'Babadook', otherwise you won't go to Heaven!
Think of it this way - you didn't ask to be born, but here you are. If you are sad or emotionally wounded, there is something wrong somewhere that you need to address and fix. A blade of grass does not question its existence, and sparrows don't contemplate suicide. Stop identifying with negative emotions that could threaten you... Start taking stock of what you are besides the mind that thinks too much.
He was very influential in the 19th century. Nietzsche said when he first encountered Schopenhauer he immediately felt he was speaking personally to him, a feeling a lot of us have experienced! Freud was known to carry a copy of World as Will , but never acknowledged its influence on Freud’s theory of the ‘UnConscious’ . In literature, Hardy reflected the idea of an implacable Will, aka Fate, and later the poet Dylan Thomas pictured the World Will as a ‘green fuse’ driving through all living things :
Is shopenhaures you bragging about his philosophies better than the creator of the universe who has sent his only beloved son to the world revealing mysteries of the old. I wonder, indeed.
I don't think Fiction Beast mentioned it hardly at all, but Schoenhauer viewed art as a way to transcend ones self and suffering. The more abstract the better in his opinion which meant instrumental music. For him this was as close as we could get to dying in waking life short of killing ourselves. He was an inspiration to many artists because of this, especially Fiction Beasts main man, Proust. I love Proust too. Perhaps you should try to read in In Search of Lost Time in the original Moncrieff edition, unless you know French. And/or try to write a narrative about your life.
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By the way, I discovered Schopenhauer at a bad time, I was facing an existential trauma, and then in my darkest depression, he came like an angel. Somehow his pessimistic philosophy was a cure (which I will reveal in my future book). I highly recommend his, and Epectitus's work to people who feel depressed ... Too much optimism is poison, and too much craving for pleasure and money it leads to disaster.
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Can you reveal how he helped you here as we don’t know who you are or your book?
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Nicely said.
I need to buy your book!
His pessimism makes me very happy ... there's sweetness and sanity in disorder. Wonderful work of art you braided together!
Thank you!
This is a brilliant digest of Schopenhauer that everyone interested in philosophy and psychology should listen to. Thanks!
Thank you!
Agree. Very insightful and direct, and easy to follow.
Keep up my friend!
I have given up trying to understand the concept of noumena, but his idea of ‘blind will’ as a driving force of the universe was easier to comprehend.
I read “Der lachende Schopenhauer” by Ralph Wiener, a selection of Schopenhauer’s writings from his books and letters. There were unsparing words about Hegel, academia, religions, women, Germans etc. I couldn’t help smiling. Only a genius can afford to be as extremely honest as him. Anyway, you made me take an interest in this remarkable man, so thank you (as always).
Noumena is something like god. Kant was a religious man. Schopenhauer was an atheist so his blind will comes from nature or the universe.
@@Fiction_Beast At the core of the concept, there's a higher force leading us... Anyone can still call it God.
Excellent Work... Schopenhauer is the most intelligent person has ever been. Hegel can't articulate his ideas clearly as Schopenhauer did. Whenever I start re-reading Essays of Schopenhauer I feel like reading my natural logic. He is so accurate, so direct, so logical and never stops giving you his logical and reasonable examples. Since I discovered this great man in 2014, he became my religion and because of him I am learning German language and I aiming to write a book following his philosophical theories.
Great Video, Thank you
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The same happened to me - and I was long an avid reader of western philosophy. Schopenhauer stands serenely at the summit.
probably the greatest thinker of all time.
probably not though.
This guy was another fine example of making the right observations and drawing the wrong conclusions... Saw the false self for what it was but chose to handle it with more repression instead of grieving and release from trauma.
Agreed about the right observation but wrong conclusion... who else do you recommend to read?
@@aisthpaoitht I think Nietzsche got most of it right IMHO. At face value when taken out of context and applied outward, his concepts have been incredibly damaging, seeing as they were used by his sister after his death to further her own agenda. But when applied inward, the whole master and slave mentality lies at the basis of human existence.
Haves and have nots. A master chooses, a slave obeys. He obeys not his master but his circumstance. He does not choose to overcome because he does not understand his circumstance. Understanding can only be gained after accepting the situation but he struggles internally against it and hence the second step cannot naturally ensue. I believe this was what was meant and not at all to go and enslave others as the Natsiz did, perverting his meaning.
Also of note is the concept of Amor Fati and eternal recurrance, overcoming one's fate by acceptance and understanding. I know it seems defeatist at first glance but this is crucial because without understanding, the man is an animal, purely mechanistic and devoid of choice. To understand is to choose. Only when one's circumstance has been understood (along with all the factors that have lead to it) can it then be overcome because recognizing this is to say there couldn't have possibly been any other way.
If you into metaphysics check out Theoria Apophasis channel: some novel stuff there that can't be found elsewhere.
@@chrisrosenkreuz23 thanks so much. Lots for me to ponder.
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The older I get, the more Schopenhauer’s realism resonates. Also notice the influence on Wittgenstein’s philosophy.
I only knew a little bit about Shopenhauver from high school but even that made him one of my favourite philosophers (along with Kirkegaard). Thank you for info ❤
That's awesome!
Is Schopenhauer taught in high school!?
Love your way of explaining... It adds to my interest even more ❤️
Thank you so much 😀
Best explanation I've heard of the difference between Hegel and Schopenhauer - thanks
Excellent work comparing and contrasting the different philosophies and use of analogies throughout the video.
This was a really good presentation...comprehensive, fair and easy to understand for the laymen. A lotta info packed into just 30 minutes. Your work is much appreciated!
Actually, Schopenhauer was an optimist! He had no fear of his conclusions. “An optimist believes it’s true. A pessimist fears it’s true”. - J. Robert Oppenheimer
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true.
J. Robert Oppenheimer
"A pessimist is an optimist in full possession of facts".
Arthur Schopenhauer
An optimist hopes for it to be true. A pessimist accepts that it's not.
Excellent presentation. On Love- so complicated at times.True, people get bored. I revisit old sayings differently these days, like -
" Try to get along." Other sayings, long ago, that sounded trite, now make more sense in their simplicity- "Keep your expectations low ( in some situations)."
Well-made video, it really made me think about my own life.
The first, very general, analogy between Schopenhauer’s metaphysics and present-day physics relates to the “theory of everything”. With his concept of the Will as the only motor of the world didn’t he prefigure the contemporary quest for the unification of the four fundamental forces of physics? (Teutsch, Georges: Reading Schopenhauer in the light of present-day science. Schopnehauer-Jahrbuch 93 (2012) , p. 356)
In Schopenhauer’s thought, of course, will is not simply or merely the human being’s decision-making organ; it is rather an impersonal principle underlying all reality - and it may be closely akin to what the quantum theorists understand as the inner nature of subatomic reality - the quantum chaos and flux, moderated by […] tendency and probability. (Marcin, Raymond B.: Schopenhauer’s metaphysics and contemporary Quantum Theory. Schopenhauer-Jahrbuch 93 (2012), p. 340)
What contemporary quantum physics seem tob e telling us ist hat deep down, way below the microscopic level, the world is not a world of spatially and temporally located particles of matter - it is not the world of phenomena. Particleness itself is a subjective imposition that enterst he picture only when an observer enters. (Marcin, Raymond B.: Schopenhauer’s metaphysics and contemporary Quantum Theory. Schopenhauer-Jahrbuch 93 (2012), p. 353)
Schopenhauer has uplifted so many people that it’s inadequate to say he was a philosopher of “pessimism”.
The more you read of his work, the more you grasp the enormous range of his vision. He was the last of the great European philosophers who encompassed the breadth and meaning of nature - including science, art, music. He was also the first European to investigate and understand Asian philosophy and thinking. Despite the significant increase in “scholarly” books and articles in the last decade, there are still enormous areas that remain uninvestigated to date. For example, recently Bernardo Kastrup, the protean physicist, has made a serious advance in thinking about Schopenhauer’s formal thinking in metaphysics, outdistancing older analysis.
The elegy Schopenhauer wrote in memory of his father, on his father’s death, is one of the most moving and unforgettable father-son encomiums ever written.
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Masterfully you take us through philosophy, history, books and further my understanding immensely. Pessimism and Schopenhauer❤️These German philosophers , Nietzsche blows one awake.
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"We can only be entirely ourselves as long as we are alone; therefore, whoever does not love solitude, also does not love freedom; for only when we are alone, are we free." Schopenhauer 9:47
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S. states that Will is an undifferentiated Unity, (The One). But this is the same as Plato's Good and the "One" of Plotinus,. Also, he equates the Will with Consciousness, but this is the same as Shankara's undifferentiated Unity, or Brahman. Also, he identifies the culprit as Maya, but this is the same as the Buddhist and Hindu concept. As to the means of merging into The One, he offers music. But this is basically the method in the Rig Veda, which offers specific mantras or sounds as portals into the Transcendent (what S. calls The Sublime). The foremost example of this is the Mahamritunjaya mantra in the Rig Veda (cf. sacred Sounds Choir). There re countless types of music but not all are conducive to merging into "The One" in a nondual state of Consciousness.
Consciousness is conscious of itself, others and things. The empathetic consciousness and intelligence in nature is indifferent. Nature will replicate and copy itself, consume and sustain itself, terminate and recycle itself. Reality is its own observer. Nature is aware its being observed, we are nature observing itself. And nature created us before we were aware of it. We never created existence. We're part of it and init. We're one of its many forms. We can change our own reality and physiology within reason and logic, but we can't change nature and reality as it is. We cant fully perceive reality for what it is. We can change our response to reality, we can effect how reality responds to us as in change of attitude. That effects how we are perceived and how others react to us. We can change our reality in that sence. Change of perception and attitude, point of view etc etc.
The conscious intelligence in nature and our cells i think is empathetic conscious intelligence that is indifferent, empathy without compassion is the ability to be aware of self, others and objects. Empathy with compassion is the ability to feel others suffering and to be able to relate to other beings. A cell is aware of itself, what it is and what it does, it is also aware of other cells, they even communicate. It will always preform at 100% until it doesn't. And when its degrading it will still push 100% and shut parts of itself down and terminate itself saving itself. It will do this without a second thought, no getting swayed by other desires and emotions outside of its own survival. Its purpose is to survive and replicate its self over and over again, its all it knows. And it will consume itself to survive. What we see as it destroying itself. Is actually conservation and recycling.
Empathetic conscious intelligence that is indifferent without compassion is like a robot.
Through drugs and sleep paralysis hallucinations and observing my senses/perception. This is the order i place things in. Consciousness is the main thing. Its like its there aware of me while am aware of it but am also are it and init.
Consciousness, devine/natural spark.
Gut, appetite and instincts.
Heart, Body and feelings/emotions.
Mind, ego, higher self. Logic and reason! Ability to calculate and evaluate, judgments and imagination, perceptions, questions and answers.
Pure consciousness has no questions or answers. Its pure contentment and a sence of all knowing.
Lay off the drugs
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Today, even Hegel would admit that things are not getting better with time. Quite the opposite.
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It's fashionable to talk about Quantum Mechanics, but also in Classical Physics it's impossible to make a measurement without influencing the thing that you are measuring. In most cases, the impact is too small to be important, though.
And for the 2nd law of thermodynamics: It doesn't say things are developing towards chaos. It says things are developing towards higher entropie, which means higher probability of the state.
Example: Put hot and could water together, and you get lukewarm water. The latter state is certainly not more chaotic than the one you started with. It is just more likely.
At 23:59 - "that everything else becomes irreverent to you." should be "that everything becomes irrelevant to you." Remarkably, quite mis-state the underlying idea.
Schopenhauer is not a Pessimist.
He's a Realist.
Nice stuff
The explanation of the nonexistence or bliss here is the sublime and what Joseph Campbell calls "the experience of being alive." Can you reconcile the two definitions of bliss? Perhaps that "nonbeing" is recognition of one consciousness. When our breath is "taken away" as when a chill runs down our spine at the sublime we breathe in and not out and hold our breath. This isn't expiration of a last breath. It is a holding on to our breath.
Upanishads basically Question everything
Written in the Vedas, Early Indo-European
Religious Literature. It's a Rebellion of
ideas of People who Dare to Question. 😊
I think Schopenhauer would be less sanguine about music if he heard heavy metal. In his day music was about melody, harmony, rhythm and timing. All classical elements. That concept of music was blown away by jazz, and the introduction of polyrhythms. And music can be quite bombastic and patriotic. If art is at one with Nature, and nature is blind, how can its appreciation be transcendental? Here I think our philosopher is an aesthete.
Darwin quotes Schopenhauer in The Descent of Man, so certainly he did influence Darwin.
Would really appreciate if you could condense his Art of Controversy book. I found it really illumination on the subject of rhetoric
Great
It isn't freedom which is illusory,
it's free-will.
Great video! Have you read Rüdiger Safranskis Biography of Schopenhauer? This is a great book. I love Schopenhauer!
Not yet.
Safranski’s is perhaps the best book on the misanthrope of Frankfurt .
“When you believe in things that you don’t understand then you suffer.”
Stevie Wonder
Illusion is freedom
At 6:45, it's funny to hear that in 1814-1831, the mother and son didn't exchange emails, phone calls - My, my, what way to present the facts!
We don't act irrationally but according to the species goals, which uses our individual passions, to achieve it's own goals. And that's rational, at the species level. Try Hegel next time, it's interesting too.
I am ayrprised to see my self watching your evrry video
Pessimism in philosophy is not the same as being “ a pessimist.”
THE NUMBER 2 EXIST ABSOLUTELY.
The question is not "Is Schopenhauer's philosophy a good thing?", the question is "Is his philosophy true?".
There is no good or bad. There is just false or true.
My problem with the pessimists is always the claim that only suffering is real. Suffering is a concept just as much as joy and peace - so why aren't they real also?
Does anyone know the artwork at 15:00 ? thank you for your attention to this!
School Rules by William Holbrook Beard, 1887
First of all thanks for the video it was very enjoyable. But I wouldn't say his conclusion was "non-religious". I understand why you chose this phrasing but it's really more accurate to say he was anti-Catholic. His conclusions might as well just be a repackaging of eastern spirituality for western audiences, which are religious systems. Also you see similar ideas and conclusions even in past western religious movements - in gnosticism, manicheanism, catharism etc. Schopenhauer didn't just spring out of nowhere with this stuff, this philosophy has a legacy, and in the past did manifest itself in religious movements.
Also I think it's a disservice to call Schopenhauer "pessimistic" because when he's read with an open mind this philosophy is truly liberating and life affirming.
He should be the existential guru. Irrationality is the paradox of good and evil. Watched a video on a couple parenting a child in the most unorthodox way. Child has the freedom to develop almost completely on her own. No education, no limitations, no cultural dogma. The parents know that by leading and not imposing they will allow the potential negativity to bloom into positivity or survival by cognitive selection. The approach dismissises the expectation of compulsory behavior and allows the child to develop and realize the merit of survival instinct and personal autonomy. Another example is pedophilia. Apparently adult men have lost the human connection they once had as children. Alienated. This alienation is generational and perpetuated by victims who become perpetrators. The clashing between reason and Irrationality blurs the line between what's positive and what's negative. It's only a matter of which energy provides the most power .
The past and the present destroy every moment.
Not the moment that YOU control
Brilliant video. Seems like it took a lot studying. Thank you for your efforts. This video is a great help.
Can you or anyone help me find a source for What Is Schopenhours Will's source. How did it come to existece and maybe he's ideas on why is there something rather than nothing
Also, i'd like a source on Cristism Of Schopenhour's Blind Will. Maybe how humans are exception for Blind Will apart from animals and objects.
I think human sexual desire couldn’t be explained rationally so that’s a possible source.
nature, unified force, kind of sounds like pantheism then.
actually, that sounds like a lot of other religions too, just not the ones where you worship some unnecessarily anthropomorphized 'higher' entities, which are oddly often some kind of patriarchal ruling over type of deal.. really just the same as some king of some land but ×2, or more.. whatever..
👀you mean specifically corrupted over-simplified 'spiritual' belief systems/as all religions. you mean the popular and corrupted ones only. 1:04 because this sounds like the gist of many other spiritual belief systems/religions.
I don't feel that drive to live.
I don't have this thing you're talking about.
I'm completely unwilling to be alive
Thanks a lot! Are you going to make a video about stoicism?
Great suggestion!
@@Fiction_Beast super! I’ll look forward to it
Hullo just wanted to recommend the Vicar of Wakefield by Oliver Goldsmith it was wonderful.
Vedic philosophy teaches us that we are just branches of big tree…the roots of the tree are inside the unified field…..
Your body is participating in so many in voluntary activities. For example…our heart is breathing, our body is adjusting to the temperature of the atmosphere, our stomach is digesting our food….all that we feel, see or touch, is just a small part of our experience as human beings…the universe is much more active than it appears…it’s constantly moving in many directions….microscopic changes are taking place every microsecond….on the surface it appears to be still….but if we could look at that stillness closely then we will see that it is in fact dynamic and moving at a breathtaking pace….
All that points to is that you are only a result of a gigantic equation or algorithm working underneath. Invisible to our senses. Our senses are like walls, caging us inside a limited space.
Wow! Just what I was waiting for. Would you have time to review one of Bernardo Kastrup s books? Kastrup is heavily influenced by Schopenhauer. Wonderful vid 🙌🏽🤙🏽
First thanks for the kind words. I have seen a few videos of Bernardo Kastrup. the man is full of wisdom and also incredibly articulate. Which of his books you reccomend?
@@Fiction_Beast thenks man 🙌🏽 Deconstructing Schopenhauer and also Deconstructing Jung , might be worthwhile books? Or maybe just one of them? So pleased you also like Kastrup! 🙌🏽🤙🏽
Would you say that the ego is our apparent rational thinking at play?
Do you know Ken Wilber, he tries to integrate west and east
Just sounds philosophical,but meaningless. Freedom is freedom and it is priceless. Of course it can have many facets.
Is it all dependent on opinion whether we become sensual or not?
@21:20 Peter's Denial of Christ
Pessimism saves.
Your content is great, but please work on your audio editing
concept of maya, nirvana, non duality, etc., oscillates between all indian philosopies/religion,,,
its better to be generic and mention them as indic religions/philospies,,,
(i appreciate your work,, Good luck)
I think he is highly intelligent than Nietzsche
But we can in fact eliminate our striving for sex and etc... Many things are achievable through constant training and those (sex, food and pleasure) are no difference One can suppress something in such dimension that it will die.
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Well at least he rejected the two dominant worldviews for human behavior; nonetheless, Schopenhauer presents an interesting but fanciful idea in much the same way scientists considered "the humours" as bases for much behavior. Or an "aether" permeating the universe.
Schopenhauer had no conception of genes, evolutionary biology, behavioral economics or even computational biology. There's obviously zero methods to test any of Schopenhauer's hypotheses, but they remain as almost poetic approaches to questions well beyond his era as a colorful tour in the history of ideas, but as footnotes not building blocks.
Schopenhauer never met Steven Pinker.
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The first incel was Schopenhauer
He was smart so I’m sure he got women but we can’t be sure.
What about Karl popper?
3-One - Popper is fascinating. But does he fit in Fiction Beasts genre of existentialism focused thinkers? I do love Popper, his clear description of Falsifiability iwas an AhHa moment for me.
Where are you from? Your quite mysterious
I’m an alien. Learning what it means to be human.
@@Fiction_Beast fair enough...
He didn't learn anything from his mother.
His mother had proved that his philosophy was wrong.
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I don't have any reason or will to do anything or even to live at all in my life
watch jordan peterson lectures and videos in youtube,,, you will find meaning
@@curiousthor yeah I watched an entire course by that guy.
And no. I think that guy is a hack and hasn't said anything original or remarkable EVER
@@curiousthor so just shut the fuvk up please and never ever talk to me again
@@MagdaleneDivine i personally found reason to live by taking responsibility,,,
Read the Bible. Your purpose is to work out your salvation.
I wonder to what degree Schopenhauer absorbed and appreciated Darwin. Doesn't the theory of evolution very much address the origins of our will and driving will to reproduction? We have this drive to reproduce simply because our ancestors who also had such a will and were more likely to reproduce than those who did not. In other words, amorous people made a disproportionate contribution to the gene pool, thus making the will to life more ubiquitous.
Schopenhauer published his theory of will (1818) about 40 years before Darwin’s book on the origin of species (1859).
@@Fiction_Beast That makes sense. Thank you
@Fiction_Beast I consistently forget how late Darwin made his observations. The theory of evolution seems so obvious that it is amazing that it took so long. Humans had been selectively breeding dogs and farm animals for thousands of years. Why nobody looked at that and said "Perhaps the environment played a role in the development of all species". I guess hindsight is 20/20
DOES HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS ACTUALLY EXIST?
Asexual me is thinking that his philosophy of love is so under informed
Regarding sex being solely driven by our biology and need to procreate, I wonder what he would've said about gay people. That maybe they are confused?
Even straight people have sex not thinking of procreation. Among animals this is more clear. Nature has to entice us with nectar to achieve its pollination goals and we only think of nectar, not procreation.
@@Fiction_Beast That doesn't really answer the question, though. I said that I wonder what Schopenhauer would've thought about it if he concludes that, at bottom, we are driven to procreate.
For Schopenhauer, it is not us who does the driving, we are driven by the blind will. The blind will is the driver and we are the vehicle of procreation.
@@Fiction_Beast I understand that. This doesn't answer how he reconciles the "blind" will toward procreation and being gay, or having sex out of simple pleasure. Believe me, I'm well versed in Schopenhauer. He doesn't talk much about that part, though. If there is indeed an underlying "blind" will that is the same in everyone and everything, and it somehow strives toward procreation, then why is it expressly different in gay people? Why do so many have no underlying urge whatsoever to procreate? Do their bodies simply interact with this so-called "Will" differently?
As I said earlier sex is mostly an unconscious urge so being gay or straight makes no difference. The will is blind so it throws things out there until something catches something. It’s like a climbing plant throws a tendril in every way and direction until it latches onto something. Whether gay or straight the act of sex is just a tendril trying to latch onto something. As it turns out, in nature sex is almost always for pleasure first and procreation is almost an afterthought for the individuals involved. The blind will doesn’t care if a small or big proportion of individuals engage in non-procreative sex, as long as there is enough who produce, life goes on. Even if one species die out, it doesn’t matter as long as life itself goes on in other forms.
It's difficult to reconcile the creation of existence with a benevolent God.
I don't find it difficult at all. For one God didn't create existence. God IS the creator and the creation. The creation of the universe came first. Then the days and nights. Then the earth and then the animals AND THEN THE HUMANS.
So. are you referring to human existence? bc if using God in your argument you have to do it within the context of His word (the Bible) which means you were created last and there were things existing in creation before you.
So what specific existence do you mean";]
@@Whitters40 I personally think God is 'Babadook' and his word (The Babadook Tales) explains everything about the world. You should embrace 'Babadook', otherwise you won't go to Heaven!
I wonder what he would have thoughts of asexuality
he would say the blind will will show up in different ways, if not through sex
If I could just catch my life on fire and die I totally would
Think of it this way - you didn't ask to be born, but here you are. If you are sad or emotionally wounded, there is something wrong somewhere that you need to address and fix. A blade of grass does not question its existence, and sparrows don't contemplate suicide. Stop identifying with negative emotions that could threaten you... Start taking stock of what you are besides the mind that thinks too much.
I love Schopenhauer, but he is SO pessimistic and gloomy that he just makes me laugh! As a young man he was very handsome, like a young Byronic hero!
I think he’s realistic too.
He was very influential in the 19th century. Nietzsche said when he first encountered Schopenhauer he immediately felt he was speaking personally to him, a feeling a lot of us have experienced! Freud was known to carry a copy of World as Will , but never acknowledged its influence on Freud’s theory of the ‘UnConscious’ . In literature, Hardy reflected the idea of an implacable Will, aka Fate, and later the poet Dylan Thomas pictured the World Will as a ‘green fuse’ driving through all living things :
Is shopenhaures you bragging about his philosophies better than the creator of the universe who has sent his only beloved son to the world revealing mysteries of the old. I wonder, indeed.
This video made me feel even more suicidal
I don't think Fiction Beast mentioned it hardly at all, but Schoenhauer viewed art as a way to transcend ones self and suffering. The more abstract the better in his opinion which meant instrumental music. For him this was as close as we could get to dying in waking life short of killing ourselves. He was an inspiration to many artists because of this, especially Fiction Beasts main man, Proust. I love Proust too. Perhaps you should try to read in In Search of Lost Time in the original Moncrieff edition, unless you know French. And/or try to write a narrative about your life.
@@JustinFisher777 whatever dude
@@MagdaleneDivine I'm sorry I couldn't help you. I hope things get better for you.
Life’s a billion in one chance.
Joy is natural.
This narrator is speaking to a male audience from the start. Sausage and beer...ugh.
You missed the German reference. The country is known for those two things.
@@Fiction_Beast I know. THAT !!!