Stop Killing Your Store Bought Basil
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That type of pot is called a starting pot. Its not designed for long term growth of the plants but to start them. These are cheap pots designed to be tossed when you replant them into a garden or larger pot. If you look at the plants as the pot is being removed you can tell that they are getting rootbound.
Thank you!
I started a whole package of Basil seeds now have a lot of baby Basil! 😮 Going to be giving most of them to family, neighbors and if you need any? 😂🤦🏻♀️
A lil tip for dividing without damaging as much of the roots is to soak them in water before pulling apart!
Thanks, and I wish I'd read the comments before doing this...
I'm gonna try that tip out next time I pick one of these up
from the sounds of it,he is more interested to flog his sponsors, where both of them are making money, then to show REAL tips.
You just take a big or bigger pot, separate the basil ,and stick them all, check the two left on the left back of his square tray.And it is obvious that also the smaller plants will grow big ,when given enough space. so,no need to throw them away.
Yes, I was about to post the same comment!
Thank you ✔️
I did this last spring and am still enjoying basil 10 months later
Nice!
My basil survived for like 2 years, then I had to leave home for 3 months and my brothers forgot to water it for 2 weeks lmao. Oh well
How do you keep it so long????
Repotted a few times, separating the plants and cutting the whole stem not just leaves when I wanted to use some.@@ra0333
@@ra0333 Use it. Keep it from going to seed.
I can relate to that basil plant. Some of us just like our space
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You should move to Finland. For space.
Me too
If you plant the seedlings next to tomato plants, you will have less aphids. They love growing together.❤
I will try planting some next to my Rose of Sharon (always infested with aphids and ants).
Next to broad beans
My friend has a business growing Basil pots for supermarkets, they basically just want to give you plentiful young fresh Basil to provide you with several meals. It's really not intended to grow as such, just be that bit fresher than dried basil in bags. Just thought I'd explain why the growers pack too many in to one pot, it's for your benefit not gardening. But it's pretty obvious, really! Love this video, I grow my own basil and mint from seed, cut the tops and grow them on in water, they are so easy. I love fresh herbs! ♥ Great video.
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I gently swish the root ball in a bucket of water letting the water rinse out the soil between the roots and relaxing the entanglement. They untangle and separate more easily. Works great for large root balls of perennials that you need to divide in the garden. a hose with low stream of water, wriggling the stems and they'll pull apart with minimal tearing.
Great tip!! Thank you
Love to use fresh basil the plant is cheaper than the package of fresh basil
I used to divide store bought basil like you do, but it does not give me optimal results, as it sets the plants back too much. It is better to just take cuttings.
Instead of dividing I immediately re-pot the store bought basil in a new larger container without dividing, water with nutrient added to the water and place where there is a lot of light. After about a week, when the leaves have a more healthy dark color, I top all the plants but leave at least one or two pairs of leaves on each plant. The cuttings are put into water, and after about a week each cutting can be planted in it's own pot. The original store bought plants will each make two new shoots for each cut, which can be cut the same way about three weeks later. I also cut the top of the cuttings I put into new pots when they start growing to make them do more shoots and grow more bushy.
As I have done for years I bought one basil in the supermarket at the end of February. Right now I have more than two dozen healthy plants in pots and about a dozen in water developing roots. They will go out into my garden in about 6 weeks when there is no more frost, and by the end of the season I expect to have harvested about 6-7 pounds of fresh basil. All from a single store bought pot of basil. When out in the garden you have to harvest a lot all the time to make sure the plants do not begin to flower.
Thanks for the advice. I’ll give this a try. 🤗
😂good job!
Ano přesně tak to dělávám už léta a jak píšete, je třeba ihned zaštipovat květy. Jakmile rostlina začne kvést, zdřevnatí jí stonek a je konec 😉👋🇨🇿
How do you deal with the aphids in the garden? I always get aphids and it destroys my crop. I seem to only be able to grow inside.
@edpilz9538 I heard they come from the soil. People used to dump their dish water over their rose bushes to kill aphids. An option that may work is to dilute dish soap in water and put it in a spray bottle. Then spray the soil. Keep it off the plant. If it gets on the plant, just rinse it off. I sprayed my zucchini plants as I had a lot of squash bugs and earwigs. I had to redo it a few days in a row. The bugs come out of everywhere and died. I then rinsed off the soap after I was done spraying all my plants. I am going to spray my soil to get rid of earwigs before I plant this year. I hope it works. I get them really bad..
The actual instructions begin at 3 mins 40 secs. Great facial expressions! Thank you for this very helpful video.
Basil is often sold in seed-starting mixes. Seed-starting mix is not soil. It is a sterile medium used for, you guessed it, starting seeds. As well as the plants being overcrowded, they are no longer getting liquid plant food to keep them alive. As the video demonstrated, repotting in nutrient-rich potting soil with more space is the way to go. PS: Provide your plants with plenty of airflow.
I have just been given a store bought basil plant and your video has come just in time to rescue it from impending doom 😅
My sister just brought home a basil plant and it wilted today! I can’t believe this video just popped up. Sometimes I think my phone eavesdrops on me 😂😮
I didn't realise how dumb I am........I've lost so many. SMH😂
😢@@carolynhamilton9529
To at Carolyn Hamilton of course your phone eaved drops on you
an 80y old gardener gave me the best tips.
--Remove the pot and check the root ball on all seedlings and plants before you buy
-- Buy the youngest healthy seedlings before they become big and root bound. They will be less disturbed when re-potting and recover much faster.
-- Once a young plants growth is checked (root disturbance, water, light, temperature, wind ) it will never reach its full potential.
Stephen from Kopu New Zealand
Good ideas! I usually end up looking for the best looking big plant but then they are root bound and struggling!
Thanks mate. We transplant ours pretty much straight away into 10ltr pots with varying success. Will follow your advice. Gordon from Tauranga
Will you explain what you mean by the last tip? (When a young plants growth is checked it will never reach its full potential)....what do you mean by that exactly??
@@cassthompson3386 I think it means the growth is stunted. It can't get bigger and better. Hope this helps.
@@rowanrobbins Ooh ok. Thank you! 😊
A very experienced japanese lady tought me to always cut with scissors the top of the plant, in order to not allow it to grow tall but thicker.
I know that the plants need to have their own space but after living together I'd think they would appreciate being placed nearby their siblings after separation so that they can occasionally say hello to each other.
The Basil thanks you, the little ones do suffer separation anxiety 🤣💕🪴😉
Crowding the pots is just part of the problem, and they definitely need to be potted up after we bring them home from the supermarket. But root crowding isn't the only reason why all of the basil flags and fails at once: It's often actually caused by bacterial or fungal infestations that get into the plants. One of the most common is Fusarium Wilt, caused by fungus that invade the basil plant, blocking its vascular system (the "plumbing" that delivers water and nutrients from the roots to the stems and leaves). Fusarium spores (the "seeds" of the fungus) can be in the growing mix the plants come in, or introduced after purchase. If your basil wilts all at once, despite still having adequate root space and moisture, it's probably Fusarium wilt!
I could not get here fast enough to see WHY, oh WHY, oh WHY about the basil plants! 😂. Thank you so much love, much apppreciated!!!
You bet!
I got a basil plant from the store the other week and wanted to propagate the strongest contenders in water. Yesterday while checking why they were looking terrible I noticed spidermites…needless to say I threw everything away and thanked the stars I didn’t sit it next to the rest of my collection.
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I love how your basil pots say "put it in your pasta!" as if you were buying it for decoration.
I sent this to my mom. She brought home a grocery store basil plant and it wilted within hours of bringing it home. She does not have kitchen window, so she placed it under a bright light on her counter top. Hopefully she finds this video helpful and get her a proper grow lamp.
Great stuff 👍
If she has a huge planter, she can plop them in and leave it outside by the door. Mine was on the deck last summer. I couldn't eat it all, but love the smell.
@@pinkyssj4I put basil outside last year, in a big planter facing south, and I can vouch for this! I got SO MUCH basil!
Over the years, I've found it's best to check and most likely, transplant ASAP as they are usually root-bound. Just like Mr. Sheffield says, they need room. We've had basil last several years with the right care, and a good spot in the window. :)
I haven't finished this video yet, but I'm not convinced that a grow light would really make the difference. I've seen these plants in the middle of the veg section at a walmart and they look mostly fine. (I'm also not convinced that there's a real difference between normal LEDs and the kind of grow lights that non-commercial growers can afford, but that's just me being superstitious with no science!)
This was just the video I needed . Can’t count how many pots of supermarket basil I have bought over the years and they just wilted . New subscriber here from Canada ❤
Glad it was helpful!
Just make sure you soak and wash off the soil to detangle instead of dry ripping them apart. Far less damaging to the roots.
There were more than 20 plants in the wee container a neighbor kindly gave me. Thanks to you, we’ll have many more plants to share!
I kept a plant like this for several months, on my sunny kitchen windowsill. The key is to give it plenty of water and FEED it. I started with BabyBio and then went on to Growmore. This is basically hydroponic gardening. I harvested leaves every so often as required. It's best to cut each stem down to about halfway. The plant will produce new shoots soon after cutting and grow stronger. Don't let it run to flowering. I didn't have to buy another for months and had plenty of Basil. Even blended some up with olive oil and froze it in ice-cube bags.
You can probably plant them a bit deeper than that, particularly since they've had their original root system quite badly compromised. Basil will root from the stems if they're set a little lower in the soil, a bit like tomatoes.
Used to work in a glasshouse that grew these. Some of the thyme pots had 70 seeds in them. All done by machines really took the fun out of growing. Also lots of fungus gnats and spiders!
Yuck!! Not as worried about the spiders, but how did you get rid of the gnats?
Put soil in a big oven proof pot or roaster at 350 degrees in the oven covered for 15 minutes to get rid of bugs & soil borne diseases & critters😊
@@arthuurwong49I had just started to wonder before seeing your comment! Wether or not small batches could achieve the same by using a microwave! Any idea?
There's the root crowding issue, but not only this, the fine-grained compost or fine-grained coir holds onto water for too long, meaning that rootzone oxygen gets depleted pretty quickly, and the basil often succumbs to root rot and stem rot (from my own experience). If you carefully tease apart the basil (or, if you wish, you can instead snip off each stem with scissors and re-root as individual cuttings in a jar of fresh water, or in moist perlite, or an aeroponics/hydroponics cloner) then pot-up individually in a mix containing a large excess of coarse perlite and perhaps some coarse sand or potting grit, the root rot and stem rot no longer occurs.
Peat, which has been sitting in an acidic bogland for many years, gets acted on by bacteria and fungi more slowly than fine compost or fine coir, so it lasts longer and does not encourage bacterial or fungal overgrowth that can go on to attack living root tissue under certain conditions (stagnant, waterlogged, anaerobic conditions). Be sure to add a large excess of coarse perlite for optimum root oxygenation.
AND prune it back! It gets too leggy vs bushy. Eat Italian all week!
So I had a bunch of murderers in that pot on my kitchen table, I thought the darn thing froze on the way here.
I have two guys still standing but they don't look too good. They'll probably end up having a dual
The most productive basil I had came from the grocery store. I have a medium sized planter that sits by the steps to my front porch, I mixed the soil with blood meal, and transplanted 5 of the store bought groups into that, and had two foot high basil plants the whole season right up to the freezing weather. That was the supply for all of my cooking, including a lot of Thai and Vietnamese food
Sounds great
They also like afternoon shade mine were huge also❤ I love basil it smells wonderful on the back porch.
This applies to ALL store bought herbs! Also, once they have established in their new individual pots, they can be transferred to a warm sunny & sheltered spot in your boarders, they prefer to be out in the natural environment. But only in the summer in the UK
I think I’ve said this before…Do you have a camera in my house? I think you just know your audience very well! 😆 My grocery store basil lasted about a month or so before it finally gave up! I can’t wait to try this now! Thanks!
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I often send your video to my 16 year old granddaughter, who is interested in indoor plants because she is in cold Minnesota, USA. You make fun easy to understand videos! Thank you!
That is awesome!
I realised this fact last year after repeated losses of my herb plants from Walmart. So glad you're sharing the info here for others having this problem! 🤗👍💖
Why did I get to that conclusion by myself ?? Genius ! Thank you.
I stopped buying basil and now I'm excited for my next grocery trip
I use seeds, no special requirements, follow package directions, most economical way to grow. The grow like hell in warm weather, be ready to use frequently and/or make a batch of pesto. Pesto may be frozen.
Love the comment Basil loves the single life
Thanks! My supermarket-bought basil kept dying last year, now I'll surely follow your advice and hopefully it will last longer
Thank you for actually showing how it's done not just describing the process. I was gifted a basil plant a few days ago and it looks fantastic but I wondered if the 15 or so plants in the one small pot was way too much. It's my intent to keep these guys growing so I'm headed off for supplies! 😃 Thank you also for all your time and effort in creating this video.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for doing this video. This happens to me all the time, I was wondering what I was doing wrong, it drove me crazy. I will definitely follow your advice and seperate the plants and whatever I don’t pot up I’ll use for margherita pizza.🍕
Great stuff 👍
My basil always survived around a couple of months. 😊 I was doing almost everything right intuitively, great tips as always. 👍🏻
I tend to always pot on my basil plants and end up sharing with friends.
Oh my gosh! I thought it was just that I couldn't grow these grocery store plants! Thank you for explaining what I was doing wrong! I'll try yet again....
You’ve got this ✊
This video is so timely, I have a basil plant that I've successfully been keeping alive for a couple of months now, but I was worrying it wouldn't last much longer. I'll try these techniques!
THANKS-Perfect timing-I'm dealing with this exact issues with my store-bought plant now.
Thank you for informing people how plants work. They have bought 6 or 8 baby plants and don't know how to raise them - it's a bit like the care of children in modern societies, keeping them inside watchin watching, with out suprevision, TV or the internet- no personal imagining, running or playing. Sort of sad really.
I never once was puzzled about replanting young plants into their own pot, but I grew up in different times - people simply don't know much anymore even though such information, about pretty much EVERYTHING in on the amazing internet - and here you are! The internet is like a great reference library, but most seem to be drawn to the Smut, Gossip and Rubbish Section instead. Regards, happy re-planting.
Fantastic! I have a green thumb and was depressed I lost my basil more than once. Thank you!
You bet!
After I saw your video, I went and did the same steps with a Gardenia plant that I bought two weeks ago, that was getting wilted. There were eleven plants rooted together, I separated them yesterday and today they are alive and healthy….thank you so much for
Great job!
I grow herbs aquaponically in my fish tank, naturally I don't want soil floating around with the fish so I rinse it all out wit tepid water then use cindered clay balls in the plants with just enough in the water to feed. Rinsing the dirt out of the roots lets you break up the plants with minimal damage to the root system, stronger plants mean they recover faster and start producing that much quicker
What fish food do you use?
I divided my store bought basil last year, and it was practically coming out my ears all summer. Plus, paired with tomato plants, it kept ugly tomato worms away. Now, if I could learn how to keep rosemary plants alive, I'd be super happy.
Ah yes i struggle with that too
Planted a rosemary close to the house in a dry spot did very well for 6yrs until someone bleached the walkway it was next to
I love your commentary on this video. I have had a terrible time with my Basil.
Thank you very much for your video and I appreciate you. Blessings.
Glad it was helpful!
I've always wondered this too. I thought it was because they didn't get enough light in my kitchen window. I ended up getting hydroponics system instead. Now my basil is going nuts, and I can't use it fast enough. When friends and family visit, they call it a jungle. 🥰🌱
i made pesto with walnuts which is cheaper than pine nuts and froze the pesto. It thawed out great. I had at least 29 bags of single servings.
@@Cerceify wow!!!! That's a whole lot of pesto!! Also, cashews are a GREAT substitution for the pine nuts, which are now $25 a bag. 🤦🏽♀️
The cashews though, make the pesto really creamy. It's so good.
I recently started raising a bunch of herbs and veggies from seed in Perlite. Kinda eliminates the water/ nutrient fight ^^ keeps everything more space efficient
I always wondered why the basil plant I brought home from the grocery store always withered up and died in a short period of time. Didn't know what I was doing wrong and thank you so much for this video.
So after doing basil non stop with seeds and mad lot of propagations I will add that you can absolutely increase the soil line upwards with basil. Basil is easy, waiting when you first start to not eat it all is the hard part. Also, when you have so many basil leaves harvested and dont want to waste them (topping to prevent bolting/flowering), you can freeze them without issue. Just rinse the leaves with cold water and bag and freeze the leaves for a treat any time you want them and they last in the freezer for months!
Just found you and really enjoyed this Video. It explains everything about buying a Basil plant. Thought it was me, so much that I refuse to but basil plants and now grow by seed. But now I know. Going to watch some past videos because I am a new houseplant mom and have tons of questions . take care
Glad it was helpful!
I am currently successfully rooting store basil from a box in a mason jar! If you are growing from a cutting, make sure to change the water about every other day. It does need that level of babying, at least until it gets some good roots to it. Hopefully I can keep it going until May so I can put it outside.
We do this and from May onwards put a couple in the garden too. They grow huge in the ground.
I've found that when separating roots from multiple plants in a small container, it's easier if you wash the existing soil off with water. I also use a sand-compost mix for seed-starting/potting soil mix and it's better than anything I've ever purchased from the store, BUT, it needs to be high quality compost and if you use beach sand, you must wash all the salt out of it. (I'm far away from the ocean in the desert, so that's not an issue for me.) When I say high quality compost, I mean compost that got up to between 131f-160f/55C-71C during the initial composting process and is biologically active. I get mushrooms in my seed starting trays, and what I'm getting there is beneficial to the plants. The bacteria from the compost are also beneficial. When I put the plants into the ground, that goes with them.
Perfect timing for me seeing this video, i get mother's day gifts for our moms at my church which usually means herbs and flowers i harvest and propagate been my garden and whatever i can find in stores. This is a great idea how to get many plants and start them off right from one purchase at the store!
Great stuff 👍
I've lost SO much money on grocery store-bought basil. This video and the one on propagating the tops of leggy plants have motivated me to try again. Your encouragement is much appreciated.
My pleasure 😊
Thanks.I had given up buying basil.I will follow your instructions 😊
Thank you for another great video! It’s so easy to learn from you!
My pleasure!
😂😂🙌🙌🙌 I have lost HUNDREDS of these grocery store basil plants!!!!! THANK you!!!
Happy to help!
I just discovered this today as a matter of fact by accident as I was pulling it out of the soil because I had given up due to it's very sad appearance. upon seeing how packed it was
in the little pot I realize, "oooooooooooooooh, now I see what the problem has been!" and then came online to see what can I do to save the bedraggled leaves. this is great for next time and all those individual plants give me hope..........so thanks. as well, at some point I too would like to have my own online videos so thank you for how you advertised what you did. I have NO idea on how to do it so thank you for that too! very nice instructional video and I love the faces you made during your cutting process. subscribed~
Thank you 😊
Lovely tutorial. Yes, I stopped buying basil like that for the same reason. Didn't realise the solution was so easy. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
What an encouraging video and so Nice to see how you Care for the baby basil - 🙏for the inspiration
Thanks for watching 😁
Thank you you've solved my problem, happy Easter from Oz.
i like your pleasent and subtle humor presentation - the informationis very helpful - thank you
Thank you kindly!
Yup. Texas here. Mine goes straight out into the garden. I cut the tops off, and I'm rooting those too. I gotta get 'em growin' before the heat hits.
I LOVE this vid, it's so true. An 8-inch deep pot, make sure it's one plant ... and what a glorious plant it can be! Needs all the sunlight you can give it in the northern climate (in eastern Canada; same climate as yours). I've not watched a lot lately, and catching up. As usual, you do not disappoint. Love & light, Mr. Sheffield, from Nova Scotia. xx
Thank you 😊
3:39 most important: separation from each other, gently discover their individuality. Tease, he says, to gain the most survivor candidates. From one pot, resettled and well-watered in their own new soil gently tapped in.
7:30 get rid of top big daddy dominant to let the juniors blow up. Principle same as plants grow best where its parts get a but of sol.
From all the way from across the "Pond": Your Basil tips are Brilliant! Your tips along with your grow lights in the background and healthy plants convinced me to subscribe and share with my daughter! thank you!
Thank you 😊
Thank you so much! I love basil.
Thank you for your help it’s very nice 🙏❤
This is very practical planting info. Thanks!!
Thanks for this, I used to just repot into a bigger pot which helped a bit but will try this asap.
My pleasure 😊
To answer, YES! I'm tired of being a Plant Killer! Thank you for your guidance!
Brilliant.
Thanks so much for this super clear and super useful video.
I’ll be off soon to bag a basil plant and then separate, pot, trim and hope 🎉
Glad it was helpful!
I had the "drying to death" issue two times in a row in the same summer. The next one, I just put them all together in a bigger pot. That work perfectly fine, I had to cut some after 6
month due to basil making flower (i did read that leaves are less tasty after that) and the small one are still in good shape 10 months after the "repoting".
Thanks a bunch! I'll do it next time.
Oh that wilted plant was sooooo familiar! Thank you, Thank you, sir. I am off to buy a new plant and hopefully my fingers will be as green as yours!
Best of luck!
Very helpful. Makes so much sense.
I needed this today thank you 🙏🏽
My problem is aphids. Hate them. Had 3 pots going last year, and they decimated them. Also, I usually take cuttings straight away, then propagate in water.
Thanks for this . I thought Basil plants just hated me. I will try to repot and see what happens.
I put mine in a new large pot. That dang thing blew up into a huge plant and I couldn't keep up with the Basil. I was giving it away. Making pesto. Also dried out a bunch and made seasoning.
I'm really enjoying your videos. I'm learning a lot of helpful tricks. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 🌱
Thank you 😊
Hello! I quite enjoyed this video. Would be fun to see what these rep-potted basils look like a month down the road. Combining this video with your other on sprouting clippings doubles the amount of basil plants from one store-bought pot.
Love the video, well done! Now we can keep our grocery store basil alive and growing! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
In past years I have put the supermarket basil plant in the kitchen window for one week in order to recover from the trauma of being forced. Then I transfer the whole thing to a very large pot to allow for root growth. It works well. I might try this year dividing it into seperate pots though my problem is I don't really have room for ten!
Thank you so much for showing us how to save our store bought Basil plants!
My pleasure 😊
I am in Australia and do similar, except I dont seperate the plants, just plant the whole lot n a large pot outside the kitchen. Works fine thanks for the video. Cheers.
Excellent video! Gets straight down to business, and is clear
Thanks!
Yeah, I did that. Still no plant survived. I'm trying to grow from seeds this year.
My basil always lives and has no problem because in the summer they immediately go in a huge planted in the yard. They love living outside and are ZERO maintenance. We can’t eat it as fast as it grows, and eventually flowers.
Thank you so much for this video. It explained alot 🌷
Thank you , great informative video , love Basil 🇨🇦
My pleasure 😊
Thank you Richard that’s great too know.
Could I do the same with coriander?
Yep
Refrigerated basil trimmings will last hours, or maybe days at best. A potted basil plant from the grocery store is intended to last a couple weeks. They don't expect you to try to start a garden with it, they expect you to eat the whole thing. That's why it's so densely packed: you get the best bang for your buck without wasting soil, as long as you really like basil.
No excuses for nurseries that sell it like this though.
Great video! Another mistake that many make is immediately putting a store-bought plant next to your houseplants. This is a very easy way to spread diseases and pests like aphids and fungus gnats into all of your plants.
Instead, put your new plants in an entirely separate room from your current plants (or, as far away as you can if you only have one room with light) and keep them there for 40 days. Keep an eye on them, inspect for pests each time you water. Any pests that may have had eggs in the soil will have shown themselves by day 40, so if you don't see anything by then, it's safe to bring your new plants around your others plants!
Loved this video. Thank you sooo much. Like your personality too.
Thanks!
How many times I’ve had to toss my store bought basil plants too, was driving me crazy wondering … what am I doing wrong, just as you said! I’m feeling stupid now bcuz I’m an avid plant owner/grower, my home’s full of cat safe plants!
And for those who are kitty parents, you can rest assured that basil is a cat safe plant, so you can place some of your new basil plants on any sunny window sill, YAY😻! Heads up for anyone that’s got an Easter Lilly this time of year, please know that this is one of the deadliest, most toxic plants for a cat to nibble on,
Always be vigilant to only grow “safe” plants if you have a cat, it’s deadly important! As with any plant you can never trust that your baby won’t take a nibble, it can happen even if yours has never bothered with one before!
Thank you for another great video, I love everything about them! You’ve got great lines, super entertaining 😂!
Thanks!
Bravo, someone got this correct. I Plant basuk seeds when it is very warm outside - July, spaced well apartr, pinch the tops, it will bush out. He is correct store basil is mean to be used almost right away.