Why is Logan Paul’s Refund Cringe?
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going 2 weeks without stanz uploading is my equivalent to running a triathlon 😭
What about swimming and biking
i’m a semi-newer viewer and solely got by 2 weeks by watching the remainder of his 11month-2yr old content i hadn’t seen yet. ok i rewatched a reaction or two. i won’t admit to anything else
@@milesgreenwood5036 They are re-watching all the old videos 100 times a day and trying not to go mentally insane
@@mint0zs Same. I started watching him a bit before December so daily uploads to a (well deserved) break felt like withdrawal lol. (Luckily I'm a strange goblin who watches the same video like 3 times in the same day so I managed)
I know been dry heaving every day I noticed stanz didn't upload
who is this logan guy? why did anyone give him a zoo?
Is he stupid or something?
Dude I got so used to Divemas that I was like "wait... this isn't a deep dive?" for a split second lmao
I had the same thought and I was like "Wait, I don't hear Caanths"
i miss divemas 😢divemas is my Roman Empire
I can't believe Stanz unironically explained a liability waiver in gamer terms.
I don't blame any of the victims for taking this deal over continuing litigation, Court is a expensive and exhaustive process that doesn't guarantee anything and takes forever. Getting some money back as opposed to continuing the suit is absolutely something I can see happening.
While understandable, it's also a perfect example of how generally across the world solidarity and community is dying, how powerful and wealthy people stay at their position with minimal repercussion and how the status quo can be upheld this easily, even though a majority of the people suffer. If everyone is willing to stand down and see other people lose everything, just for some individual recompensation that doesn't even encompass the entirety of what they deserve, it's quite a comical representation of how systematic and structural injustices are upheld in the world. Or formulated differently: if everyone is willing to eat all the shit they've been fed as long as they get some tissues after to wipe their mouth, no one will stop feeding you shit. So in terms of a "class consciousness" and "solidarity" taking the deal is absolutely abhorrent and "traitorous" and ultimately a step towards the goal the rich and powerful (in this case Logan and his team) want to achieve, doing heinous shit and then cleaning their hands of responsibility and accountability for as little of a cost and repercussion as possible, no justice would be achieved at all.
On the other hand if you lost money to cryptozoo and especially if you're not particularly well off, this deal might give you the money you need to support your family and continue your own personal livelihood and you're in a position where ultimately you need the money and you can't risk joining the lawsuit and not getting anything at all, or only several years down the line, not taking the deal would be a risk for your entire family and one you might not be able or willing to take and at the end of the day it's delusional to expect someone to not look out for themselves and their loved ones first and foremost, before worrying about others in their situation. In that case, your choice is very limited and very risky and you shouldn't be to blame that you take the deal to support your family, even though that a. doesn't compensate you fully, b. doesn't force Logan and his team to legally own up for the bullshit he's done (no justice) and c. could risk the litigation for everyone else who is in your shoes and lost money to this scumbag. Especially if this money you "invested" into cryptozoo is significant for you and your family, it might be a deal you think you have to take, and people should be understanding of that and you shouldn't be blamed. That being said if you're rich and well-off and don't need the money from the deal at all and are not financially dependent on anything, I will personally judge you and see you as a selfish, shortsighted asshole that purposefully screws others over and stands in the way of potential "justice" for their own personal shortterm gain, for accepting the deal if you could just not do it and join the ongoing class action lawsuit.
Divided we beg, united we bargain@@Flunksqk
I definitely think KSI is just protecting his investment rather than 'friend', a lot of his 'integrity' lately feels like it's thrown out the window ever since he made Prime with Logan Paul.
17:40 This had me crying. It was so funny watching Stanz call Logan out for this. Best part of the vid by far.
i dont think you watyched the entire video.....
There's a game that's kinda like Crypto Zoo, but it's free and the art is actually made by them! It's a game called ovipets! There are many different types of animals and you breed two of the same animal together to get an egg. Depending on what animal it is, will determine how long it takes to hatch and the hatched animal will have a mashup of the parents mutations. Mutations are stuff like feathered wings, vertical pupils and unihorn (all of these mutations are for frogs). It's basically a game about genetics 'cause each mutation has a % of a chance the hatchling will have if the parent(s) do.
Stanz confirming that his humor is Jake and Amir influence is everything.
Every big comedic UA-camr you can think of is inspired by them. The GOATs of the UA-cam sketch game ❤
New stanz vid is like when i run a half marathon place lowest in my age group but wake up the next day not sore at all
Your body is a temple
Im just glad i ranked first amongst pregnant women
Happy New Years, Stanz and editors! So excited for the incredible new work. Probably my favorite take from the Logan Paul drama. Stanz is lowkey one of my fav news sources with Caanths.
oh man, jake and amir takes me back. They left a highly successful show to start their own channel, stalled out at 80k subs, and get less views than I do :( I wish they had have been able to adapt and evolve better, because they were so good for that period of time on CH
Hey Headgum rules I’m still a huge fan :)
@@stanz oh they have a podcast channel too? I'd only known about their main channel, I might check that out at some point (you know, when I have that illusive free time haha)
I love this channel. Stanz is such a positive and chill guy, even with...just everything that's happening in life. I also really like Caanths.
The deep dive type videos feel like watching it with friends instead of an essay or commentary type video (which I also love, but they can be overwhelming sometimes, especially with a negative topic).
You guys can cover dark and upsetting topics in a light yet respectful way. Also, I think Logan Paul should be fined at the least lol. He's done MULTIPLE scams. Like no one talks about Dink Doink anymore 😂.
Getting scammed while legitimately hoping for a way to get out of a shitty situation feels like crap. I’ve been there. On top of everything, it’s humiliating as well.
Then there are people who are either involved in the scam and promote it, or got in early enough and then pump and dump to scam others out of a scam product they invested in. At the end of it all, the people who get hurt the most, are regular people who were hoping to get out of the position they’re in.
Hey man, I remember seeing you in some of ludwigs content. I just found your deep dive December videos and I gotta say love your stuff! Watching the sugar pine 7 actually made want to re-watch it with a friend who's never seen it.
I'm def subscribing, your content feels so underrated!
Stanz has a good take re: those who've been scammed. Yes, they're dumb. Yes, they live in a time and society in which dumber has worked.
I think he's also choosing to pay back in Etherium, because looking at the price of it from when the scam started to when he's paying back, it's essentially if you spent $100 USD at the start of the scam to buy the Etherium to buy the tokens/egg, the refund is something like $12 USD or something.
Been following this since the mint, and I have to say; I feel so sorry for everyone that was affected by this case. But I can't help but feel like if you think that any of the Paul brothers are trustworthy and decide to invest in them, most likely they would have lost that money in another way at some point if Logan didn't rug them.. Hopefully with the heat on him now, he will do the right thing and refund the victims. Great video, Stanz!
There's nothing 'sound' about it. It's really like buying casino chips and the casino never opened
Literally rewatched the previous parts last night because I KNEW stanz was gonna hit us with an update, love the vid man
15:28 far from it my friend, we all thinking it
16:25 "I feel like my eye rolled into the back of their head" 🤣
Coffee is UA-cam's Batman/Clark Kent.
Once a scammer, always a scammer
you know what ain't cringe though liking subbing and hitting that bell can i get a hell yeah stanz nation
look... all i know is the actual lawyer who is doing the case says to not take the deal so ... i guess either listen to the lawyer or dont?
"Like you, I was highly disappointed that the game was not delivered" Bro give me a fucking break, you was the face and probably the main guy in this whole thing. What do you meaaaaaaan?!?!? 😂
Developing the game is easy, but attaching it to crypto technology, with blockchain backbone, that interacts with morphing nft’s/unique coin is a completely different level of difficulty. Not to mention the SEC now looking at all crypto as a security, so you are now not just developing a game, you’re building a financial institution, which has to be regulated, and becomes even more complicated. Developing the game is NOT the easier path.
what's fucking insane is I watched literally all of the stanzy videos about the topic from a year ago TODAY
Ksi and Logan weren't really friends before prime and honestly even now I don't think they hang out. They're just people who work with each other they live in different countries and I can't say I believe they're sitting in discord calls having a good old chat late info the night
I don't think since the first time I heard who logan paul was, I ever heard anything good happening with him, and this isn't even a "he's scammed for so long" sorta thing, even before that when he was being a youtuber first, he had his weird scandals, most memorable being the japanese suicide forest, but he's always had this bad air around him, so I don't see how anyone can look at this person and go "yeah, we can trust that man with our money" when I wouldn't trust him to go into a shop without incident
That Curly Guy sounds cool
5:56 👏🏻 Thank you
SIUUUU ANOTHER STANZ UPLOAD
Even though I think Logan Paul should refund the tokens I think the logic is pretty good. In the video you mentioned as a counter argument that "they could buy them on game release" but to that I wonder: why even buy in the first place? The comparison to these toy tickets also does not quite hold imo because you got a pizza in the first place. These tokens are nothing else but currency you eventually want to spend on eggs, so why buy them before you buy an egg. Because it is cheaper? Well that is gambling no?
Curly my goat. He talks about the game in the Tier Above groupchat
10:31 thats such a shit response from KSI. You shouldnt ever blindly back up friends if u have no clue about anything and clearly have not taken the time to hear the other side.
This isnt some drunken squabble between idiots this is millions of dollars of peoples money and the casualness of just sayng "i believe my friend and dont care enough to even do an hours worth of listening to 3 videos to make sure im not on the wrong side of things" is truly just wild and not based but frustratingly ignorant. Itd have been better if he just obstained from even talking about it but i guess his ego wouldnt allow that
CoffeeZilla is a total hottie, Stanz. Lol
4:30 - Jake and Amir + Stanz is insane
One UA-cam deep dive on the Lizzie Bennet diaries please😊
That was a crazy cool UA-cam thing that stretched out across different platforms!
How do we know this is the real stanz?! Gone for two weeks probably means they replaced him with a robot
THEY ANNOUNCED A NEW ASSASINS CREED ALREADY??? wtf are they doing man lol
Stanz is back!!
I am Beyond complete all I can think I feel sorry for the people that did investigate in The CryptoScam
im still upset you havnt done a rooster teeth deep dive
I'm soo glad Attorney Tom is on this case!
When you look at how the cryptozoo founders acted and treated Cryptozoo prior to and leading up to its launch. Saying it was never intended to be an investment vehicle is just absolutely ridiculous, and anybody should be able to see right through it. I Don't care what the whitepaper says
Now that’s a stanz thumbnail
we need stanz' hot slog dog
This stuff feels even stranger now. Even a year of two ago, you kind of had to humour the idea that nfts could be a real thing even if you didn't believe it.
But now we're post nft mania the idea that any of crypto zoo was supposed to be real just feels absolutely absurd
HES BACK OH MY GOD HES BACK
Great video Staniel ⭐️❤️
Idk why logan is trying to make people forget that the game didn’t work at launch so anyone that bought zoo coin intending to turn that into eggs just would’ve held onto their coins? Or am I missing something here?
Caanths edits go hard
Logan’s gonna be fine because he’s building so much good will as a wrestler. Which he happens to be VERY good at
My other fav UA-camr: Mogul Moderate
Agreed that you can't blame the people that invested, its more of a cultural issue I think. Seems classic American opportunism/exceptionalism/etc. being normalized far beyond what's safe (from a social safety perspective), baiting vulnerable people into risky ventures instead of doing their due diligence or just anything else that will actually benefit them cause bish I'm different
Like it or not . They are haters majority of them. It’s a fact. Never heard anybody say Logan scammed till coffeezilla. So they fans of him and Logan haters are on a band wagon.
Everyone loves to milk it for feels, but you probably dont think it's cringe because it's making you money 😂😂
Very curious how that lawsuit is gonna go LMAO
"yeah mr judge, i promise i was well intentioned and all these people screwed me over!! oh whats that?? oh no thats not at all evidence to back up that i was also guilty you're delusional and a hater!!!"
Always rely on Stanz or Ludwig (Twitter version) for the best takes
I dont really feel too bad for the victims because everyone I know who invested in crypto were such insufferable assholes about it. Nobody deserves to get scammed but if you can't see the writing on the wall especially considering this wasn't logans first rug pull idk what to tell ya
"I dont feel bad because the few people I know, personally, really sucked and therefore I shall project these sucky feelings on the entire human populace" - 🤡 🤡 🤡
i agree with everything except the fact that ludwig gives the most milquetoast takes. that award goes to moistcritikal
You are absolutely not the only person that finds Coffeezilla hot.
He's not even normally my type, but the whole P.I. aesthetic? Whew.
I am scared for KSI
Stanz, one point for you; Logan is refunding the people that took part in the game (the ones that bought the basic eggs/animals), which amounts to $2.38m he'll refund. Coffeezilla's amount of $18.5m is the amount of money bought in the actual base crypto token. Although I find it a good first step from Logan to even do and say anything at all, I still side with Coffee's points more... Except for the one about the whole 18.5 mil dollars, because it's a weird way to compare when he's being clear about who he will and will not refund. If Coffee would be able to say that the eggs/animals costs added up to let's say 3m, then okay, fine. But for now I find it an uneven statement that paints Logan in an even darker light than he already was painted in.
6:21 and this is why I subscribe to
STANZY IS BAAAAACK
woag
why does Stanz always sound like a lil girl
If you take your face off the thumbnail, this video gets maybe 1000% more views
Stanz
It's just hard to feel bad for grown adults in their 30s with that amount of money gambling It on crypto from a UA-camr
Issue 1: You assumed they were gambling
Issue 2: You assumed they were all adults in their 30s
Issue 3: You assumed because they were all adults in their 30s, they should be able to walk away from this scott free with maybe a bruised ego at worst, and fail to see how anything on this large a financial scale can so simply devestate very real lives
Issue 4: You don't see how some millionaire sht face literally stole money IN FRONT OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE and is GETTING AWAY WITH IT because people are too busy blaming the victims, who, worst case were dumb rather than the guy who orchestrated this whole thing, who, best case is just pathologically apathetic.
@@Amodh1257 Yes, crypto is gambling.
The majority of them were in their 30s.
They were okay with gambling thousands into a crypto produced by a UA-camr.
You gamble what you're okay with losing.
I'm not blaming the victims. I'm saying they knew exactly the risk they were taking. This is gambling.
Imo if you get scammed by a crypto you deserve it. It’s every month there’s a new crypto scam and yet people continue to get scammed. Their motto is “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on you, fool me three times it’s still shame on you”
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You are giving these people way to much credit.
1. If they were truly rhat destitute they would have never bet every last damn dollar on this and if they did then they were stupid and needed this wakeup call. You never put every dime u have on one thing and hope for the best
2. If u were such a big fan of logan ud have seen him do 5 other pump and dumps before this yet u still put thousands into this?
3. What grown ass person unironicly watches and considers themselves to be fans of logan paul? I mean if ur only into the WWE maybe but if ur at all into youtube youd be fully cognisent of some of the stunts hes pulled with as many videos there are about him
I can tell you right now as someone whos struggled most his life and only recent has made it to an alright place in life there is no way in hell id ever give anyone such large sums of money if i wad not fully prepared to lose it and if i did id fully admit i was a dumbass. Honestly i hope this is the way up call to these people to stop doing such stupid stuff with their money
It’s honestly impressive you managed to bring race up when talking about crypto scams
I lived in SF at the onset and every crypto founder I met was white 🤷♂️ it was my experience
@@stanz and you think seeing race in everything everywhere is helpful? I just don’t get it
Liquid Marketplace gotta be the biggest scam, you could bid to own a small percentage of someting he owned, and "share" it with others
NFT: NeFarious Trading