Kansas City deaths may have happened due to hypothermia: Former FBI agent | Vargas Reports
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2024
- David Harrington, Clayton McGeeney and Ricky Johnson were found dead outside the Kansas City home of their friend Jordan Willis, two days after they had gathered there to watch a Chiefs game. Former FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joined "Elizabeth Vargas Reports" to discuss the latest news on the case.
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I don’t know why the news keeps going over it when they know there won’t be any answers until the autopsy and toxicology reports are done.
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If you are "sober"
You don't sit and freeze to death.
Even if you’re just drunk or high. They were on that shit.
@@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139yeah it was strong opiates. I guarantee it. I have been clean for 14 years. But this is exactly like a story I would hear about Dope users back in the day. It had to have been Fentanyl in either a pill or in some coke they were doing. But if you know at all in a pill it wouldn't hit them all exactly the same time. It had to be powder form. But why use outside? You have to think he put atleast 1 of them outside. They didn't ALL die outside.
Coke/fent........
Why would you go outside if it was freezing
@@dianaminnick8003 to smoke their drugs
Passed out drunk in a lawn chair and died of hypothermia. I’ve gone a few days without looking in my backyard too.
I think fentanyl was involved…perhaps the guy in the house also impacted and he truly slept 2 days.
100% agree
Did he take the same dosage as them, I heard fentanyl is pretty dangerous even just a small amount.
Drugs are a victimless crime. And why didn't the homeowner find them? He was passed out on drugs too.
and happened to survive out of sheer luck ...
You do not know this.
@@RagtimeAnnieHe went inside his home
He probably stayed inside and passed out and the other three went outside to smoke or something and passed out in the cold. He may be a functioning addict with a job and a house and just slept the weekend away. I mean this scenario really is not a far stretch.
Drugs are a victimless crime?? What drugs are you on?
We had a family friend who got drunk, fell down in his driveway, passed out and froze to death. Most likely these guys were doing drugs (maybe a bad batch) and didn't know what they were doing and went outside.
I don’t drink anymore but when I did my blood sugar would spike and I’d feel nauseous, hot & sweaty. I always felt the need to step outside and cool off, get some fresh air. Don’t want to keep implying drugs, but they also make you dehydrated.
Hypothermia was secondary to unconsciousness caused by something….
I agree.
I agree.
Partying all night, dropped fentanyl instead of whatever they though they bought, went outside to smoke, OD'd all 3 died. Homeowner just festered in bed for 2 days all hungover. Pretty simple actually. Sadly this happens every night in the US becuase fentanyl is more available than alcohol.
Yep...I agree...
I agree as well.
I don’t care how drunk I am, I would not go outside in the freezing cold and snow, and just hang out. Sit in a lounge chair when there is a warm house to go into. That is just ridiculous! Even if they were betting on who could stay out there the longest, how could they all died at the exact same time. One of them would have called for help. My condolences to the family and friends. I hope they find out what happened for the families and loved ones sake.
Ywah, I don't believe it's possible for 3 people to die that way. Maybe one drunk idiot but not 3. Some other drug was involved for sure.
Maybe they went out to smoke.
When you have hypothermia you don’t feel anything. You feel cozy and warm. You also are more confused. Once you become hypothermic it’s easy to die of it.
@@jeffrucks4477 possible, but I still don’t believe all three just fell out, at the same time.
Your completely right
Fentanyl OD? Perhaps someone laced something they ingested?
I think the same thing
Look, I work from home and some days I don't look outside at all. If I do it's usually out the front window. I don't check my back yard. I don't know why people find that so odd. In winter there is no one outside and nothing to look at.
We don't either. We can't even see our back yard from inside the house. We have to go out into the garage to see the back.
I think what makes it bad is that people tried to contact the home owner and he ignored the calls and Facebook messages. People went to the house and he ignored them but the cop knocked and he came to the door.
The frozen guests' cars were in the driveway also. Guess the homeowner didn't check the front or the back of the house for three days.
Exactly!!! Besides it's pretty terrible to accuse this guy who from what I've seen is pretty good guy just average with no criminal background
@@nataliemesbah1639I wondered if he was just trying to "cover" like guys do on that. Also it isn't unheard of to not like your friends gf or spouses.
Disoriented and left out back door. Needed air? Relaxed and sat down...layed down and froze😢
It's not surprising someone wouldn't look outside their back door if there's no reason to look out into their backyard.
But not if people are banging on their doors and calling and texting you asking you where their relatives are
But their cars were parked in the driveway for a couple of days.
@@MsRotorwings If I'm not going anywhere for days due to the cold temps and snow on the ground, I'm not going outside. Then again, I walk my guests out the front door, make sure they get in their cars, and drive away. Further, it's not unusual in cold temps like in KC after a snowstorm to not be able to start a car. That wouldn't be unusual.
@@butterfly2218 I'm guessing the owner passed out from drugs or alcohol. Then again, I don't pass out like that. I'm just one of those who wouldn't look out my back door or in my back yard. Plus, I typically walk my guests out to their car, make sure they get in the vehicle, and leave the driveway.
@@georgiegirl8345 Did you see the news today? He's checked himself into rehab for his addiction. That's how he didn't notice. Understand now.
Hypothermia is almost a given, so too are drugs. The question will be how much exposure do we have here, and of what. Got high, went outside, nodded, out like a light slow to no breathing and core temperature falling... Recipe for 75% loss rate. Sad it is. Now, were they given hot shots by one? The one who lives possibly? Biggest Issue I have right now is why dude wasn't on the phone to cops up to 24 hours spread across two days before he calls? Explain please.
He likely took the same drug and slept it off in the warm house
@@lizzeltired2155 I agree
Cold to freezing temperatures can cause respiratory depression. Heavy alcohol consumption can cause respiratory depression. Mix those two things with drugs like opiates or opiods which can cause respiratory depression and it could be a really bad combination. Even ambien with the above could cause some really scary outcomes. Let's say 3 passed out outside and one went to his bed and slept for most of the next 36 hours. My guess would be multifactorial in cause. Very sad.
Yes
This
Who said the guys died outside?
Sure, they may have been found outside, but that doesn't mean they all died there.
They could have all died in the house, and then someone carried them out.
Can't jump to any conclusions until more details are revealed by the police.
@@Saugaverse If the police thought they were carried outside wouldnt that constitute foul play? Sheesh
@@nychris2258 Everyone, including the police, are waiting for the autopsy results.
Nobody knows anything yet, until those reports come out.
Well, except for maybe the 2 guys who were there that night, and are still alive.
What would be a reason for someone to see dead friends in his yard and not tell anyone? Do you think this PhD scientist thought it would just blow over if he ignored it? When I am lounging at home in the winter, I do not look outside. I rarely check my texts. Apparently, people tried Facebook messenger. I probably have messages there unread from last month. Clearly these guys ODd and froze. Jordon may have taken the same substance and slept it off in the warm house. But even if he did not partake in the drugs, I do not think it is out of the question that he did not look outside or check Facebook for 2 days
Tytttt
A friend pounds on the door for an hour that night. No response. A girl busts out a window and breaks in, yelling his name. No response. SHE calls the cops, they come announcing themselves like they do and he appears immediately in his boxers with an empty wine glass in his hand. Come on.
what if you're the one that provided the drugs to them... Also, the 5th friend left at midnight and said everyone was awake inside watching tv when he left out the front door. He also said the dogs WERE at the house (which Jordan has said they were at his dad's the whole time). Them leaving their belongings like their coats in the house and Jordan still not knowing. I mean the fiance, the one that called the cops after finding the body, broke out a basement window to enter the home. Then went inside and was calling for the homeowner. When she walked through she saw the one body laying on the back porch. That's when she went back outside and called police
So why are these guys deciding sometime after midnight to suddenly go out into the backyard to supposed OD / do lines of coke laced with fent... when they all had work the next day. These guys have kids and families and stuff. Why would they be going out into the freezing cold from a warm house to do a drug like that at that hour? The ONLY thing I can fathom is that they possibly did do coke INSIDE the home, and then went outside in the back to smoke a cigarette right after and that's when the fent hit them and they all passed out. STill doesn't explain how Jordon doesn't notice anything unusual when the guys cars are there as well as their coats and cell phones inside.
Jordans lawyer said he was up and going about his normal routine monday and Tuesday
@@zariballardI heard somewhere he was wearing noise canceling head phones when she was pounding.
This isn't a mystery. They all did some drug and passed out. The host was inside his house and sadly, the others were already outside and subject to the freezing weather. It's unfortunate but not intentional.
Stop making sense. People love to make up so many scenarios. The simplest explanation is usually how it turns out to be. Occam's razor.
I think it was Aliens and Epstein.
If that were true why is Jordan lying so much?
@@DaniellaR-xp4cp It's very common for addicts to shut off their phones and isolate for multiple days. And to not answer the door because they are paranoid.
I've seen it.
Why the fk did all 3 go in the back yard? Not buying it
One cold snowy winter night, I was walking home from work. As I approached my backyard, I saw a person sitting on a snow berm.
She had been there for a while, judging by the 2 or so inches of Colorado powder snow that had accumulated on her . I woke her up and asked her where she lived.
She was hammered drunk and did not know where she lived any longer. I took her inside my place and let her couch surf the rest of the night.
She was gone in the morning but left a note on the coffee table, thanking whoever it was that brought her in from the cold and possibly saved her life.
Yes, I’ve heard, in the comment section, a story where an intoxicated man walked home from the bar but passed out in the snow but ended up dying from hypothermia. So it can happen.
You are a wonderful ❤️ kind person !!!
Alcohol poisoning creates a comatose effect.
I remember many moons ago in my early twenties, I wasn't always good at gauging my drunkenness and my friend and I were out playing pool in a bar and we went back to this person's hotel room afterwards to rest before driving home and they were both passed out on each side of the sofa, I was stuck in the bathroom for like 3 hours because I couldn't find my way out of the little square box of a bathroom it was. I must have gotten to that point where my brain was kinda in a comatose state , I couldn't even figure out how to turn on the light in the bathroom but eventually as my inebriation lessened I was able to find my way back out to the living space where my friends didn't even notice me gone 😄
@@joebeetz1832
For all 3 at the same time? I don’t think so.
It doesn’t take this long to get a toxicology report back. A cop told one of the mothers that it will make sense when everything comes out. So they know what happened. Right?
The investigators are keeping quiet about this even to the family. Unless they have a suspect it seems like the cause of death should be known by now.
I dont think there is anything in this guys backround that would also suggest that he is such a low life he would have looked out the window and seen his friends and did nothing. Thats a pretty low blow from everyone so confused of why he didn't look outside.
Maybe he IS a lowlife. Not one person has come to his defense except his lawyer.
it is said that he is really upset about all this media slanting doubt on his character
@@zariballard At these Salem witch trials? No one came to his defense? Wonder why???
My assumption is other they took something, or drank too much passed out and then a hypothermia got them. doesn't make them bad people still a very sad ending.
It's so obvious these guys thought they were doing coke and it was cut with fentanyl. Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.
my thoughts as well. everything out here is cut now so .. a few drinks, a nice bump... head outside for a minute... then it hits. I'm sorry but Fenny hits a little heavier so no surprise. They just got stuck. Literally, they froze out there. 🤷♂️ Not much else makes sense. Maybe weed laced with f also could have been.
The guy who lived is trying to fabricate a story that he doesnt know anything, when he might be the supplier of the dope!@@sczrhndz
@@sczrhndz weed laced with f is NOT a thing. At all. It's even legal there so nobody would be getting some street trash weed laced with f. Also, a 5th friend was at the home. He said he left at midnight and everyone was awake, inside watching tv. These guys all had work the next day. Unless they suddenly wanted a pick me up before driving home (which would thwart the Uber theory), why are they waiting until after midnight to start doing lines of coke and then go in the backyard afterwards without their belongings...
@@JBC33 Where have you been. It is most definitely a thing. It's on the news all the time.
@@JBC33 Coke/fent. Today's weed is enough to make your legs not move. Maybe dapping weed.. That druggie trio families don't get curious is what is really curious. Media is beyond dumb deaf and blind.
I like how everyone is saying I can't believe he didn't look out his back door.
REALLY. like he's gonna look out and see his friends still there and say hmmm well ok they're still having fun.
Stop speculations. Answers will come.
I said back when this first happened, that this may be due to hypothermia. If you take into account the use of alcohol, and temperatures. With the alcohol, especially if they drank enough, they'd end up not really paying attention to the temperature. I've been there a few times. So, it's not that hard to believe that hypothermia is the cause of death, or a contributing factor.
I believe it's hypothermia, but also more than just alcohol. No way all three were affected the same way by alcohol alone.
It wasn't just alcohol and for all 3 men too have passed out doesn't seem logical. The home owner knows a lot more than he is saying and his story doesn't add up. The families needs answers and he is worried about himself. He left his friends outside dead and he knew they was there.
@@DrunkSince1973The police probably know more than what is revealed.
Yes! Many yrs ago an Aurora DR went alone in a trip to Wyoming. Early fall fell asleep and died of hypothermia. No drugs no alcohol.
Have to be kinda like low IQ to not think about that, just saying.
As a biochemist, SHAME on this FBI agent for being so UNPROFESSIONAL..
Wonder why she's not part of the FBI anymore?
At the lab, some had fun peppering the drinks with MD MA as a joke.. I never brought my food there.
MDMA is a stimulate the MA in MDMA is methamphetamine
She is a paid liar. She comments often on a case that I am very familiar with and all she does is lie. She is shilling for the prosecution in that case.
She actually sounds like a typical fbi agent ignorant and stupid
@@yock889 A colleague went to the hospital in a coma for 3 days. She is now a disabled mother at home. After investigation she suffered a MASSIVE epileptic seizure followed by bleeding. Every month, people die from this sh*t. Don't take it as a safe game.
My other message has been officially censored. We progress on free speech..
The title to this video left out the part that the former FBI agent suggested that something they consumed directly or indirectly, led to their deaths.
They just glossed right over that. They seem eager to place blame elsewhere.
@@JulieL96 That's human nature. Over the years I've noticed that when someone dies, or is harmed in some way, there's always those who have this mindset that 'someone must pay'. Then you have those who are in complete denial that their friend or loved one could have done something wrong, intentionally or otherwise. They too often succumb to this blame mentality. Sure, often there are those who are at fault and should be blamed while other times that doesn't work when the victim or a true accident is at play.
lol true
That something is probably alcohol. There are plenty of examples of intoxicated people inadvertently dying of exposure.
So sorry for these families but it sounds like an accidental situation due to hard partying. Apparently they are lacing joints now with fentanyl so this could be easily explainable. The one who stayed may be lucky to still be alive. We need to wait on the police. At this point, I do not believe he intentionally harmed his friends. If it is shown that these men passed due to voluntary substance use. I do not think the survivor should be charged.
Perhaps the ghost of the late Bon Scott of AC/DC is calling out from the other side saying "don't do substances and then nod off in the cold"
Some substances can cause od by accidental touch or ingesting if say the food was put in a dish that was contaminated, so do not assume they knew they were exposed if they were. Also just being drunk can cause someone to pass out in very dangerous conditions like extreme cold or in water without realizing it is happening. Drunk people freeze, drown, fall off high objects, crash their car, die of heat stroke, so the quietly dying part is not really a mystery if they were very drunk even without drugs. The taking two days to find with their cars out front is more mysterious.
*They were not drug addicts, they took drugs one time and suddenly passed away in the cold*
Great, you solved it! Call the authorities, the investigation is now over, thanks to your insight.
@@garymorris1856
These people are coo coo!
Yea, thanks Sherlock 😅
@@cedarpinelife At this moment in time, it is not yet clear what happened.
@@kristinebarbaree2697 At the very least, I am smarter than you, but shit, who isn't?
I haven't gone in my backyard or my front bedroom for weeks at a time. Why would I go out there when the weather is bad? They are just going to have to wait for the toxicology reports to come back. Hypothermia sounds about right considering they had been drinking a lot.
I don’t even look out my back in the winter. Snow covered, no dog to go out. Not unusual
I always look outside
True.. I don’t always go out there, so unless they were sitting directly in front of a window I might not have known. There’s just not a whole lot to do back there in winter.
Same. I work from home and sometimes don't leave for a week at a time when the weather is bad.
But at some point in the day you will look at your phone and or hear someone banging on your door and eventually breaking the window. You guys are not looking at all of the points here.
Shocker! Wino's freeze to death in sub-zero weather!
Except Jordan said that they were awake alive and left around midnight
It wasn't 3 days! It was a Sunday game and they hung out supposedly past midnight so early Monday. The bodies were discovered on Tuesday night around 9pm. So not quite 48 hours. Not going outside or noticing your friends' cars are still out front for 2 days is more understandable than 3 days. If you don't have kids or pets around needing to be fed, it's easy to zone out and be a hermit for 2 days.
He may have thought they called an UBER
A neighbor that was interviewed said that the guy had a dog. If that's true, then this story is even more confusing.
@@LoveofHarmonyYeah, I assume it's the dog in his photo that the media has been using, but his lawyer said the dog was at his dad's house. His dad also has a dog, and it wasn't unusual that his dog stayed with his dad. IDK, does the dog look like a pit bull mix? Some dogs just don't do well when there are more than a few people around.
I remember hearing he had dogs so that's why they didn't believe him because his dogs should of went potty outside
@@Mia-es1rp Even if the dogs were there, people with fenced yards can crack a door open to let dogs in/out in bad weather. You only go outside to clean up when it's dry or before garbage day. Some people wait till Spring or don't clean up at all. lol
How did no family member go check for 2 days is what blows my mind,these were fathers 🙏 ! If it was my wife not coming home i would have been there before morning !
The only explanation is that they were used to them going on two day drug binges. Would also explain why she chose to break into the house instead of getting the police involved.
I was thinking the same thing?!? Unless they had plans to sleep over?
Who just looks in their backyard for no reason in the winter?! Seriously! That’s so dumb to say. They’re smearing this guys name all over the place, and are gonna find out he did nothing, and have to eat crow.
He didn't look out his front door either for two days where his friends cars were parked. I don't buy it.
I lived in a house, and when it snowed in the winter, we always look outside in the backyard. He didn't want to look outside, because I believe he committed murder
LESSON LEARNED: If you're dumb, make sure your friends aren't dumber.
Have the cops released any pictures. Quit speculating. I think this was an accident.
they DID say from the beginning that one was in a chair. The fiancee also said she saw one dead man in a chair.
If a person was standing would they fall flat? I wonder their position.
of course, happens all the time
Kansas City MO and KS plus all the surrounding suburbs need a lot of help with law enforcement.
They can't be giving out information when there's still in active investigation.
All of them took something, one of them went out cold inside his bed for two days and the other 3 just died cold outside. Something is definitely 🐠 with this situation
You act as though you know what happened, but you do not. "Took something," how brilliant of you.
@@garymorris1856obsessively, she did not make her statement as an opinion,which sets you off to be sarcastic.
In my opinion so many from what I'm listening to, are assuming the 4 took something willingly and the 5 is guilty and was the plug. Then again, I'm hearing, there is another mob mentality of many assuming Jordan and Alex are guilty and know more and are playing this out and lawyered up.
Justice says stop speculating and exploiting both men. The witch hunt has to stop. The Mob mentality has to stop. Show justice, act Justly. Wait for reports. It's only just for them both. Justice works both ways ya know.
"One nation under God indivisible with Liberty and justice for all"
"Let's act if we are"
Eleanor Roosevelt: 'Justice cannot be for one side alone, but must be for both"
In her timeless wisdom, Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "Justice cannot be for one side alone, but must be for both." This powerful quote succinctly captures the essence of equity, fairness, and the pursuit of a just society. Roosevelt's words remind us that true justice cannot be biased or one-sided; it must extend to all parties involved. Such a profound statement prompts us to reflect upon both the meaning and importance of justice, as well as delve deeper into a concept that sheds a new light on justice" - The Socratic Method
Justice for the family ⚖️
Justice for the friends⚖️
Justice for Jordan⚖️
Justice for Alex ⚖️
And above all peace and answers for the family. I just want to see justice show for all.
@@garymorris1856 no I don’t know what happened I wasn’t there but that’s my thoughts about the case, everyone has an opinion, this is mine. If I’m wrong I’ll say I’m wrong, I have no problem admitting that
@@inainoslo3011 No, you made a declarative statement about what happened, and you did NOT say it was your opinion, You SAID what happened, as though you know, and now you are backtracking, quite chicken shit of you.
@@garymorris1856 well well well. The toxicology is back and looks like I was right.
How long has this story been covered and you are just now figuring out hypothermia and intoxicants might be involved? Of course that isn't as sensational as making up crime stories. No blunt trauma, no knife or gunshot wounds, no ligatures. How exactly do you think one guy murdered 3 other men, big strong men without leaving any evidence?
And then dragging the 3 of them outside? It’s nuts.
I saw some comment saying he probably did it over someone staining his furniture - like what in the world.
I think the answer is much simpler and less dramatic.
Not everybody looks in their backyard every day. I’ve probably been in my backyard one time in the last month.
There’s a difference between looking at your backyard (say, out your window) and actually going into your backyard.
Agreed. We never look in our backyard in the winter. Good heavens.
Do you not open up any blind on the back of your house in the daytime? I find that very hard to believe. I don't go in my backyard at all in the Winter becuase there's nothing doing back there. But I sure as hell see it everyday when I open up all the blinds in the house in the morning, you know, to let the light in...
@@FrancisMasaba1nothing to see. No reason to look at a rain or snow mess. Maybe if I had an animal to put out.
no I don't open my blinds...or look out into my backyard. nothing is back there I don't have a dog and when its cold I can easily sleep and lounge around the house for 2-3 days. especially when its cold and snowing. I won't go anywhere til roads are clear. hell i only see the front because I have a ring video doorbell. people are putting fetanyl in everything trying to make return customers that get hooked without knowing
Definitely hypothermia. Nothing burger story. Extreme cold and extreme drinking does this every year.
Most that die of hypothermia are naked or have clothing half removed... That's from thinking they're hot when they're really cold...
I think if they have drugs in their system that they didn't know they were taking them. Plus, it's like they all had to fall unconscious at one time bc if one went down, the other 2 would've tried to help.
In what grown men take their wallets out of their pockets to visit and watch a game??? I hope LE is turning every stone, with the Jordan guy being a scientist, he could've concocted something that won't show up in tox screens . So sad
You're right. It's possible they had their wallets and phones with them.
What 3 people
freezing to death and you've come to the conclusion it might be related to hypothermia? bravo!
If they were not unconscious and getting cold they would go inside.
I lost my boy to fentanyl 2 yrs ago. He had problems but not with fentanyl, so he was murdered really by whoever spiked his other things.
They were incapacitated to the point that they froze to death. Hypothermia would have caused them to take off their clothes.
Heavy room darkening curtains available almost everywhere like Macy's , keeps the sun out of our bedroom so we can sleep late
Hypothermia was holding them all hostage in the backyard.
I’m never look out my backyard unless I dump some food for the birds or animals for weeks even, he was drugged and slept it off, I’ve done the same from tiredness only toileted to pee and back to bed for 36 hours no drugs or alcohol involved …what more with drugs and alcohol…
I've gone weeks without looking in the backyard.
They DID NOT just sit outside in the cold til they froze, this is the most suspicious thing I have seen. To say its not... is just mind boggling! 3 grown men didn't do that!
They got drunk and passed out.
Some of us know grown men who do dumb-ass things!
Haven't said but if they were outside it was to smoke I would guess
@alishashields830 They may have smoked some left-handed cigarettes laced with Fent... I've heard of Fent... making ppl's oxygen level plummeting so low and causing a chain reaction of organs shutting down, eventually killing people. Some, it takes their lives almost immediately.
I think Jennifer is spot on stating they consumed some sort of drug and/or a combination hypothermia since it was near freezing outside.
Not all three of them passing out at the same time, doesn't make sense.
Probably Fenton Coke but I’ve been saying the whole time.
So, I do have a little insight on substances a little over a decade ago now... I was heavily addicted to my prescription Xanax. There were days upon days that I didn't leave my bed... It's not crazy to me, to think this man didn't look out his window either.... He was messed up for a couple days... Looking outside is the last thing I'd be doing
I totally believe that the home owner/renter did not look in his backyard for a few days. First of all he thought his friends had left,
Secondly, it was fucking freezing and third of all he was occupied. It was a totally freak accident.
and I saw he is really upset at all the irresponsible rumors...he even had to move
I do not look in my back yard everyday and i dont even have snow. These guys did drugs. Maybe the guy is cupable in giving them drugs, but it completely plausible that he went to bed and never knew they were out there.
We know that: it is too soon! Don't blame the cops
He didn't notice the three bodies in his backyard nor did he notice his friend's cars out front. Hmmm...
The police do not owe victims' families a play by play of the investigation: doing that could hinder it.
This happened re: Moscow, ID murders, as well, i.e., infuriated parents accusing LEO of incompetency. They need to have time and space to do their work, get toxicology labs, etc. Invective and conjecture doesn't help.
and watching traumatized families being interviewed is a horror story in and of itself
There is no way those 3 would go outside & hang out waiting for hypothermia to set in
There hasn’t even been three people die simultaneously on Mt Everest, much less on a back porch in 30 degree weather.
We don’t know the truth yet
Thank you.
Tbh, I doubt there were ever any Everest climbers that were stinking drunk and on drugs (requiring a 2 day sleep off like indoor dude) right at the start of their climb
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My guess.... they were on drugs, passed out and died. The home owner (renter) simply was recovering from his drug use and simply didn't go out back as he was on a drug binge. Sadly they all died long before he could have done anything.
A lot of ridiculously improbable speculation being newsworthy about these very suspicious deaths.
I hope people actually do their job and give a real reason and closure to this case.
The one guy probabaly said good bye to them and watched them leave.
Then he went and and passed out upstairs.
The other guys (way drunk) decided none of them could actually drive home.
So, they drove around the block and back to their friends house.
And knocked on the front door.
Their friend, upstairs and passed out, didnt answer the door, so they went into the back yard, to the back door.
The one sitting in the chair, was probabaly the one knocking on the back door, which went unheard by their passed out friend.
One of the guys probabaly drunkenly, stumbled and fell to the ground. Then being laughed at by the other guy, pulled him to the ground too and they most likely wrasseled a little.... Then just laid their catching their breath and passed out.
The guy knocking on the door, sat in the chair, thinking his friend was in the shower or bathroom.
He would give him a few minutes and then try knocking again.
Sitting in the chair, he looked at his friends passed out one the ground. He may have even tried to wake them up.
He probabaly knocked on the door a few more times, and not wanting to lay on the ground, sat in the chair, and wanting to "rest his eyes",
he fell asleep or passed out himself.
*They should have stayed in their car, atleast their body temperatures would have kept them warm.
There's no "injuries" reported, nor wallets or money missing, in any news clip.
It was probabaly just a pure accident.....
Sounds plausible.
They took a hallucinogenic, had no idea they were freezing to death, and died.
In my high school growing up, we lost two students thru . Drug -induced horseplay . In separate events .
Non -users don't understand what harm drugs do. This is how they kill.
Don’t say nothing until you find out for sure
We understand that why were they outside why someone has to know and why did they not make it back in ?
I've been two or three days without looking in my backyard you people got to realize he was snowed in he wouldn't worry about none of that he's probably sleeping in the super bowl off who knows
Jordan also never tried to call anyone to say "Hey bro, you left your wallets and keys at my house" . I don't believe him
And what would be his reason for not telling people he saw his friends dead in his yard?
@@lizzeltired2155alibi, "I never saw them, I didn't know they were there"
I haven't seen anything that their keys and wallet were in his house? Is that true?
@@conniekabasharira7084 alibi for what? It is obvious they ODd. Not at all likely that Jordon killed his 3 friends, leaning the 4th alive to leave. And then did not even try of disposing of their bodies. And if he killed them to look like an OD, he would have called 911 a lot sooner than waiting 2 days.
@@lizzeltired2155 I agree.
"Hypothermia?"
"Hypothermia?"
No sweetheart!
It's fentanyl!
One caused the other
@@Trendyviews. What the "original" cause was the fact that they were supporting the NFL. Am organization that kneels during the playing of the National Anthem! THAT'S the cause! These idiots got some dope, got drunk, and the rest is history!
I find it very difficult to sympathize with anyone who insults or disrespect our National Anthem.
This crying grieving mother can put a sock in it for all I care!
EVERYONE knows what they were up to! They must've bought fentanyl laced drugs. And paid the price for it!
Another news report said the other two men were found lying on their backs nearby. The scene appears to me that the man found in the lawn chair was watching over the two on their backs.
Something doesn't add up. There has to be more going on. Three grown men don't just die out in the cold at the same time. Drug overdose, drugged secretly, carbon monoxide? What's going on here?
That's bullshit.. it was 30 degrees.. maybe had they made it to the next weekend when it was zero degrees and -30 windschills vs the dolphins.. then freezing to death might make sense.. but what made them stay outside in the cold?
They might have went out for fresh air, but someone locked both doors, and they couldn't get back in. The friend who was found on the back porch had probably tried to get back inside😢.
Couldn't it have been alcohol related mixed with the weather? They
Deaths due to hypothermia? No sh!t, in other news- water is wet
Only AFTER they were somehow incapacitated. Figure out the source of the simultaneous incapacitation
The biggest question is why police just took the homeowners word for it that the men froze to death?
Police (it appears) just said okay then.
The house, as far as I know wasn’t treated as a crime scene. The homeowners statements get more dodgy over time and police (as far as I know) haven’t spoken to neighbours and/or requested any camera footage.
When I took my daughter to the ER because of altered mental status within an hour we got the toxicology report, why is it taking so long?
They partied...a lil' too much...went out for fesh air....and passed out from the shock and cold ....then froze to death ! Homeowner passed out for a couple days inside...woke up and here we are ! Just a random theory ....really !
I never look in my back yard.
I haven't looked in my back yard in a week, so it isn't that far fetched
Dr+gs. Dude probably slept for two days bc they got a bad batch. They somehow froze outside while guy made it to bed. Sad.
The voice of the obvious. They got drunk (or high) and passed out in the backyard. The toxicology report will tell all.
I don’t look out my back window for days at a time in the winter.
I don’t find it odd at all.
I don't either there's nothing out there to look at it
Thanks a lot Captain Obvious
I think they got a promotion. Major. Major Lee Obvious. 🙂
Why would he look in his backyard? I would think he thought they went home.
THE CARS WERE PARKED IN THE FRONT YARD AND THE KEYS WERE ON THE COUNTER.
@@zariballard Ah! Good to know
Sad to say. He may have wondered when they return for their cars.
When do the autopsy results come out?
I don't know about this situation but I do know there are many times that I personally go for days on end without leaving my house. I have a large house and a large backyard and I do not look at it every single day. Nothing nefarious they're just days I'm doing something else. It happens I don't think too much should be made of it.
Where did she get the info that they took drugs that they were comfortable with? Was there an autopsy? Why isn’t the other friend in jail? His friends cars were all there and he never was concerned!!!
I havent gone in my backyard in 2 weeks much less 2 days
I don't look out my windows every day unless the dog barks and runs to the door. With the recent weather, I seldom go out to my backyard. Maybe wait for the autopsy reports.
What a crock....why did they go outsrde?and why did they stay outdoors....if u get cold you do something about it like go back inside...obviously they were drugged whether or not it was on purpose....
It doesn't take weeks for preliminary drug test.
This is messed up. Drugs or they got drunk... It's CRAZY
DUH...TO HYPOTHERMIA as the end result. I'm not a doctor and figured that out. Questions should be what did they take prior to freezing to death!
Hard to people the just sat there freezing to death..
Drugs/alcohol can numb you, ?
Just difficult to understand😢
My brother was a serious alcoholic. He would open the front door in the winter and pass out in the hall with his head hanging outside. Good luck facing the drunken rage if you woke him up to close the door.
Regardless whether directly or indirectly the friend has some blame in this he could have easily watched his friends get in their cars and leave even if was from his front window