Eggperial City Conclusion - Sonic Speed Reading

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  • @channelnamehere8924
    @channelnamehere8924 Рік тому +797

    For Tangles' inconsistent intangibility, I just wanna note how if she truly was intangible, she couldn't walk on the ground, go up buildings, or even stand on the ground itself

    • @YourUncleBenis
      @YourUncleBenis Рік тому +3

      I presumed it worked by the logic of the Phase Shifter from Transformers Prime, where you can walk through walls and stuff as long as it's on, but you still have solidness on the ground.
      Though the contradictions Nick pointed out now puts that into doubt...

    • @uboa8060
      @uboa8060 Рік тому +147

      Even more so, if you want *true* intangibility where no object or force whatsoever can affect the person who's intangible. This would make her blind and also make it so the earth (or whatever it's called in IDW) spins without her.

    • @PK-Radio
      @PK-Radio Рік тому +65

      If she was truly intangible would she even be affected by gravity

    • @yourlocalreptillian1742
      @yourlocalreptillian1742 Рік тому +17

      It would be more consistant if they couldn't walk through stuff

    • @channelnamehere8924
      @channelnamehere8924 Рік тому +8

      @@PK-Radio yeah, like that one guy from Batman Beyond

  • @SpiritOfSpite
    @SpiritOfSpite Рік тому +468

    Yes, Eggman with a regular sized gun is the fandoms favourite meme

  • @professionalnobody4416
    @professionalnobody4416 Рік тому +499

    The greatest loss of this arc: The Egg Glock
    It shall be missed 💔

    • @angrybrony
      @angrybrony Рік тому +23

      they need a 21 glock salute.

    • @shadamyandsonamylover
      @shadamyandsonamylover Рік тому +34

      Eggman holding a gun to Tangles head is my absolute favorite. I can’t believe they were allowed to do that. I love it!

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Рік тому +13

      Egglock

    • @alexandrpeterberg390
      @alexandrpeterberg390 Рік тому +21

      Fun fact: Eggman did have a Glock in Sonic Adventure 2. (when he held Amy at gunpoint) I suppose you could call this the first canon appearance of The Egg Glock.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Рік тому +15

      @@alexandrpeterberg390 Back then it was the Egg Colt 45 but then Eggman wanted something more modern and lightweight so he got an Egg Glock 17 instead.

  • @Boosky-Barry
    @Boosky-Barry Рік тому +483

    Can we appreciate how much of a badass Metal Sonic has been through this comic series

    • @AngelPerez-tu1nk
      @AngelPerez-tu1nk Рік тому +26

      Amen to that

    • @Guntshot
      @Guntshot Рік тому +53

      Aside from being buried like thrice in the last 10 issues, he’s been kicking ass. I like seeing him as actual threat.

    • @Mepphy99
      @Mepphy99 Рік тому +15

      he only needs to beat Sonic once and he is the greatest goat
      he saved him from the virus, now show me him power

    • @SonicSwift99
      @SonicSwift99 Рік тому +28

      Bro keeps jobbing but they make him look so badass in each panel that I can't be too mad. I just need him to actually hurt the heroes in some way to show why he's a whole different threat from Eggman's usual baddies.

    • @juliemesser2053
      @juliemesser2053 Рік тому +2

      You mean hilarious.😅

  • @SnaksiXD
    @SnaksiXD Рік тому +170

    Omega's "Yes!" Is a perfect demonstration of the kind of humor he brought with himself to Heroes. A perfect representation.

    • @netherwalker1762
      @netherwalker1762 Рік тому +12

      Reminds me of the Archie days as well. Glad to see my murderous artificial friend again!

  • @alexdenty7041
    @alexdenty7041 Рік тому +187

    This entire finale was a big apology to Shadow fans, and I love it

    • @Mepphy99
      @Mepphy99 Рік тому +14

      sega Is trying to apology so hard they are going to make a Shadow-protagonist game

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Mepphy99CORRECT.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 Місяць тому

      Apology for what

    • @76o90
      @76o90 19 днів тому

      @@reggielacey2235 Shadow during Metal virus arc

  • @vinvillian4621
    @vinvillian4621 Рік тому +418

    I think the tangibility of Tangle is explained by her being able to slightly press against things but with enough pressure can phase through objects. If she was completely and totally intangible then she’d just fall through the earth

    • @DJtheMJ
      @DJtheMJ Рік тому +25

      Omg thanks so much for this explanation, now I can reread it without that question bugging me!

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap Рік тому

      But if it was about pressure she would fall through the earth some good lengh after colliding with it at terminal velocity? What was the force that pushed her back up at all? Just video game logic like an invisible wall or force that corrects your course when you go out of bounds? That's what it felt like.
      It's never properly explained, though. Eggman being the big mouth narrcacist he is could've and would've elaborated, but the writers wrote something they weren't smart enough or too lazy to explain, so fans are just using headcannon and theories to cope with the contrived writing.

    • @BobisOnlyBob
      @BobisOnlyBob Рік тому +17

      Oh, like the opposite of the shields in dune. Those let slow moving things pass through them (like air, or a slow movement) but repel fast things (like bullets, a fast punch, or even an overly swift pat on the back). So she can't punch metal sonic, but she was able to grab him - but it was also undulating and inconsistent because the traps were just generally wobbly physics.

    • @eycasual
      @eycasual Рік тому +3

      My thought was she focused hard enough she'd be able to be somewhat tangible

    • @netherwalker1762
      @netherwalker1762 Рік тому

      I would also think gravity may not even apply, or at least, not as powerfully.

  • @krisprowler3199
    @krisprowler3199 Рік тому +148

    In fairness, the last time Eggman built a supposedly inescapable trap, Sonic and some random kid escaped it in roughly 20 seconds.

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois Рік тому +238

    Not a big fan of 06 but I really enjoyed how this arc gave us a fun interaction between shadow and silver like what 06 did

    • @lilboygthorns7373
      @lilboygthorns7373 Рік тому +24

      Yeah, my reaction to it was “OMG, Shadow’s finally going to respect Silver” to then realise that was only an SS182 thing, where Shadow’s a Tsundere

  • @_NIKOS9_NIKOS
    @_NIKOS9_NIKOS Рік тому +45

    Eggman: Who are you people?
    Lanolin: We are the Diamond Cutters !
    Eggman: ...I am gonna kill that f*****g octopus!

  • @smugsneasel
    @smugsneasel Рік тому +101

    11:25 The Egg Glock is one of the best things in this comic...It was too powerful which is why it had to be destroyed.

    • @fodv93
      @fodv93 Рік тому +9

      The one thing that Eggman has that sonic can't destroy: The second amendment

    • @liviwaslost
      @liviwaslost Рік тому

      @@fodv93shadow and Eggman both

  • @delphoxhoopa7289
    @delphoxhoopa7289 Рік тому +169

    Shadow's characterization has definitely improved! I hope the writers keep it consistent for his next appearance! 🥰

  • @TheEverythingEnthuiast
    @TheEverythingEnthuiast Рік тому +112

    this story is just "how over the top can we make this comic?" and i love it

  • @wellywell1064
    @wellywell1064 Рік тому +114

    The tangible issue is likely based on how Tangle is able to "stand" on the ground and "sit" on a railing, by those same rules she should be able to "hold" onto Metal. The reason why she coils her tail around its likely because of the fact that she is intangible not invisible and was just blocking his line of sight since you see him slashing through her tail.

    • @firerulezz116
      @firerulezz116 Рік тому +5

      That's absolutely how I interpreted it.

    • @JaceAce22
      @JaceAce22 Рік тому +7

      She's probably at a point in her state where she just needs to push through matter instead of being entirely intangible.
      Intangibility powers or states of phasing through matter, like Mirio from MHA or Kitty Pride from X-Men always confused me of how much control is needed for you to phase through walls, but not fall through the ground forever.

  • @nishiruma
    @nishiruma Рік тому +126

    I love that its canon in this series that eggman just has a piece on him at all times 😂

    • @IconPNG
      @IconPNG Рік тому +14

      And since the IDW comics are canon to the games, that means Eggy is always packing a glock with him since Forces lmao

  • @malyckrentz9346
    @malyckrentz9346 Рік тому +65

    Sonic team: *Jokes around*
    Eggman: *PULLS OUT THE GLOCK*

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Рік тому +5

      Shadow shouldn't have pissed in his wife

    • @DragonMCMultiverse
      @DragonMCMultiverse Рік тому +4

      @@PlebNC IN???

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Рік тому +4

      @@DragonMCMultiverse It had to go somewhere once it was on her.
      That or she was thirsty in more than 1 way.

    • @malyckrentz9346
      @malyckrentz9346 Рік тому +5

      @@PlebNC That's why Eggman pulled out his Glock and pissed on the moon

  • @legendarycryptid2629
    @legendarycryptid2629 Рік тому +42

    14:25 RIP Egg Glock. Too cool for IDW Sonic.

  • @ObscureSwan
    @ObscureSwan Рік тому +22

    Amy brought out a strawberry shortcake, and as said by Sonic in the Twitter Takeover "Strawberry shortcake sucks!"
    Probably why he didn't stick around for long.

    • @JediSteve-J3-
      @JediSteve-J3- 4 місяці тому +2

      Oh my goodness you are right

  • @lololordjr
    @lololordjr Рік тому +172

    Truly an end to the age of empires

  • @BirdOfTheApocalypse
    @BirdOfTheApocalypse Рік тому +113

    With the whole intangible thing, i think its a "tangible at will" type deal, so they can choose whether to phase or not.

    • @LateefA519
      @LateefA519 Рік тому +24

      Nah I think its tangible at random

    • @cherricake1796
      @cherricake1796 Рік тому +10

      ​@IYASAYKICYHtangible when plot Jesus says so

    • @winterdragon2004
      @winterdragon2004 Рік тому +8

      I figure its linked to emotions, the more panicked she gets, the more intangible she becomes

    • @djinnspalace2119
      @djinnspalace2119 Рік тому +1

      she only ever blocked metals sight, she never attacked him and never actually grabbed sonics hand, she really didnt interact with anyone besides taking away metals sight since she was still visible.

  • @lightdragoon88
    @lightdragoon88 Рік тому +43

    My headcannon for Tangles' intangibility is focus. If she can really focus she can interact with solid object, but if it falters she phases through. Going back to the last issue for example she was backing up and didn't notice the wall so because she wasn't focus on interacting with the wall, she phase through. This is why normal walking/running still works because that is a subconscious thought and therefor still works.

    • @ThatIdiotOmega
      @ThatIdiotOmega Рік тому +3

      Kinda like Cole from Ninjago back when he was a ghost.

  • @smoogieboogie1694
    @smoogieboogie1694 Рік тому +61

    Seeing Tangle, Whisper, and Lanolin like a Sonic Heroes team just reminds me of how we never see Team Rose anymore! Come on, IDW! Where are they?

    • @maciejas2471
      @maciejas2471 Рік тому +14

      Amy hangs with Sonic right now, Cream is with her mother, and Big is somewhere around

    • @Ed_Games234
      @Ed_Games234 Рік тому +1

      Amy basically entered Silver's team since 2006, so... The team is still there.

    • @smoogieboogie1694
      @smoogieboogie1694 Рік тому +2

      @@Ed_Games234 She was in the "team" in that game only and wasn't even with him for long. She spent one stage with him and didn't even interact with Blaze.

    • @-KORAL_ZERO
      @-KORAL_ZERO Рік тому +1

      @ToasterBathB0mbs switch tangle with lanolin

    • @ASOSE19
      @ASOSE19 4 місяці тому

      @ToasterBathB0mbssmouldering intensity (the stupid face the rock makes)

  • @Felix.Fictus
    @Felix.Fictus Рік тому +36

    what a GOOD comeback for shadow returning to form. guy got to be his old edgy self AND threw a CITY INTO SPACE. good stuff, doin my childhood proud.

  • @Baconboi1972
    @Baconboi1972 Рік тому +104

    Bro, you KNOW it's a good day, when Game Apologist uploads a new Sonic Speed Reading episode. Love your videos, dude. Keep up the good work.

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 Рік тому +44

    this did shadow justice. Showed how powerful he is

  • @garrettviewegh677
    @garrettviewegh677 Рік тому +28

    I feel like it gets overlooked somewhat, but Silver and Blaze, despite interacting together on some occasions, are a pretty great duo. Seeing them work together in the comics, those who know they’re history from the canon of the games to the IDW comics, know that despite one being from a different time and another a different space/dimension, they compliment each other well as a duo.

  • @AngelPerez-tu1nk
    @AngelPerez-tu1nk Рік тому +33

    Ngl, IDW Sonic has been a rollercoaster of hype from almost beggining to now and its friggin awesome. This latest arc is the ultimate extreme to that xD.
    However, I kinda wish they took a long breather and let things settle down before doing something again.

  • @TheKorenji
    @TheKorenji Рік тому +22

    Honestly, I'm kind of disappointed that Silver and Sonic didn't Chaos Control alongside Shadow, since they canonically COULD do that... but at the same time, if Shadow alone was enough to manage a Capital-Sized City... I wonder how powerful they'd be if they all worked together... Maybe they could warp a country off the planet-

    • @KatzWasTak3n
      @KatzWasTak3n Рік тому +2

      Ohio,
      Your welcome.

    • @sonicdml4175
      @sonicdml4175 Рік тому +1

      And then there's Super forms who could probably just teleport the planet on their own.

    • @michaelcarlton1484
      @michaelcarlton1484 Рік тому +4

      To be fair, Silver pulled the Metal Virus out of everyone while Sonic was making them go extremely fast.

    • @sonicdml4175
      @sonicdml4175 Рік тому +3

      @@michaelcarlton1484
      That was Super Silver.

    • @Cosmik60
      @Cosmik60 6 місяців тому

      this is why Wyoming doesn't exist

  • @KraziShadowbear
    @KraziShadowbear Рік тому +39

    This arc and ending was pretty interesting. Shadow was epic and the plot of the "self-sustaining city" was pretty awesome, but the consistency of the portals' ability to change how one interacts with the real world, "scattering of atoms", "dimensional distorting", and other similar stuff here was kinda strange and left me with more questions than answers. I thought Eggman straight up actually killed them through the scattering of their atoms or that the effect of that was much more "permanent" than just an "on and off" type of thing.
    Also, I love your reaction (15:20) to the little Turtleloid getting kicked off by Metal Sonic. When I saw that, I was literally thinking "What will Nick think of this? Was this intentionally placed just to see his reaction?" XD

  • @nuteniumtokyo
    @nuteniumtokyo Рік тому +51

    Picked up the first 20 issues of this series a few days ago and I have this series to thank for that. Seriously guys pick these up they are really good.

  • @mrcwillis6970
    @mrcwillis6970 Рік тому +31

    That shadow big choas control moment is so cool ❤🖤

  • @Shywhitefox
    @Shywhitefox Рік тому +22

    While it is a little inconsistent with her sitting and touching people, and wish it was explored more, but I like to think that Tangle has somewhat some control over the newfound intangibility as long as she is calm. Once things start getting extremely stressful, then she looses her grasp over her molocules and starts going through stuff with little to no control.

  • @SwerveStarEx
    @SwerveStarEx Рік тому +18

    I just wanna say, I listened to the Shadow's Return video on the way to work today, listened to the Super Amy video during my workout when I got home, and now there is ANOTHER video waiting for me for the next time I take a drive out. That is WILD, thanks so much for all the content, man!

  • @pigifi
    @pigifi Рік тому +5

    2:11 Fun fact from Evan Stanley. Every artist hated having to draw Tails' Miles Electric, so when the chance came for a neat gag using Tangle's intangibility, the artists are more than happy to add this idea to smash that over-detailed thing so they don't have to draw it anytime soon.

  • @lilbasenji1
    @lilbasenji1 Рік тому +27

    There is a lot of Shadow love in this comic and I love it!!!! I have noticed lately that Sega tends to forget all the power and abilities Shadow was given when he was introduced. He has so much power that it’s shocking why Sega decided to give him a gun in his own game instead of focusing on his powers. He is such a mysterious character even though he has been in the Sonic franchise for so long and these issues are evidence of it. He never tried to use chaos control without a chaos emerald, but despite that he is able to pull it off without the emerald. I remember not to long watching Chaomix speculate if Shadow needed a chaos emerald to use chaos control and I am glad that these issues answered that. Now that nothing is stopping him from using chaos spear, chaos blast, chaos control, and all those other abilities. I also love Silver’s little pep talk to Shadow. It’s not something we usually see in Sonic’s main cast, but I love it all the same. It gave me Pokémon vibes, but I love it. Silver was repaying the favor (that never happened due to time manipulation) in 06. I would love to see more of those two teamed up in the future. I also love how much time Blaze and Silver got. While I missed seeing my favorite wolf, I am glad to see these two work together.

    • @shadamyandsonamylover
      @shadamyandsonamylover Рік тому +1

      In the archie comics he used his natural powers a ton. I hope they bring that back =)

    • @Lazypackmule
      @Lazypackmule Рік тому +3

      Shadow didn't really have any notable natural powers of his own outside of a chaos emerald until Battle for gameplay and 06 for story

  • @NegaHumanX
    @NegaHumanX Рік тому +8

    No matter where I am.
    No matter what I'm doing.
    No matter who's around.
    It randomly pops into my head.
    I'll never forget it.
    "YOU mAy knOW evErYThinG I'M going TO DO, buT IIIII know everything YOU'RE Going to DO! STRANGE ISN'T IT! " in the voice from the OVA. It's stuck in my head forever. If we ever get a Flash movie where he fights Reverse Flash I hope they homage it.

  • @Nightmare_52
    @Nightmare_52 Рік тому +17

    this comic really did shadows spines super well in these issues, also love the sonic riders looking pose on metal sonic when on the turtle
    so much hidden fun

  • @agentomecha634
    @agentomecha634 Рік тому +37

    I’ll definitely have to pick this up once the volume releases in October. Shadow has definitely come a long way from the Metal Virus Saga. Finally showing off his Chaos abilities too.

    • @sethisevilone02
      @sethisevilone02 Рік тому +1

      is it the idw book collection volume 4?

    • @agentomecha634
      @agentomecha634 Рік тому

      @@sethisevilone02 No, Sonic IDW Volume 15: “Urban Warfare” which contains issues 57-61.

    • @sethisevilone02
      @sethisevilone02 Рік тому

      @@agentomecha634 damn

  • @LordFusion5620
    @LordFusion5620 Рік тому +5

    I can confirm Egg Man's glock is the best reoccurring character I've seen in a while

  • @user-rc3sw7xk1w
    @user-rc3sw7xk1w Рік тому +11

    When I read this, I assumed Tangle was floating with Metal, blinding him with her tail…
    It’s definitely not shown off very well, but given she’s not transparent, that made enough sense to me.

  • @umdofevy
    @umdofevy Рік тому +5

    For me, a sign of well-written sonic character dialogue is when I can hear it in the Adventure-era voices, and that Shadow line about the city being a true monument to the doctor's hubris was one of those moments, being able to hear it perfectly in the Shadow the Hedgehog game's voice. I'm glad that, at least in part, comic!Shadow is getting a little bit back on track to the characterization fans have been wanting

  • @dprototype6431
    @dprototype6431 Рік тому +14

    This arc was really fun to read, I especially loved that mega Team Blast in the finale.

  • @skyray16
    @skyray16 Рік тому +5

    Eggman did say that Cutters were hit by the prototypes of the trap. For me it was quite obvious that Tangle was more unstable then just intangeble and the effect wore off with time

  • @shadic1988
    @shadic1988 Рік тому +14

    Shadow was the MVP of this arc

  • @abigailhedderly4978
    @abigailhedderly4978 Рік тому +24

    I’m so happy! I think this was a pretty good finale!
    And I can’t wait for the next IDW collection!
    And, YES!
    #JusticeForShadow, I think they really fixed him up!

  • @winnerthecoolguy2009
    @winnerthecoolguy2009 Рік тому +9

    Eggman with a gun is weirdly funny and intimidating 11:25

  • @kijukitten
    @kijukitten Рік тому +13

    im pretty sure tails saiud tangle was semi tangible, explaining how she can walk on and climb up through floors

    • @lpan-xy4pt
      @lpan-xy4pt Рік тому +4

      she is not transparent so she can blind metal.

  • @eNCy.
    @eNCy. Рік тому +5

    14:00 Sonic seems to be doing the same pose he does on the cover of Sonic adventure. However its been changed a bit to show Sonic kicking Metal.

  • @caswellweird
    @caswellweird Рік тому +9

    The moving Eggperial City reminded me of the huge gunmen inside of Teppelin in Gurren Lagann

  • @YamiLotus1
    @YamiLotus1 Рік тому +16

    This man hit us with a double wammer 😮‍💨thank you man

  • @CrimsonMoonM
    @CrimsonMoonM 5 місяців тому +3

    Personally, I always viewed '06 Shadow as the definitive version of the character, considering that he had just laid his past to rest and moved on. That Shadow is somewhat surly, sure, but he is ultimately calm and analytical enough to casually throw Mephiles' attempt to turn him against his allies back in the villain's face and has absolute faith in the rest of Team Dark to the point where he reaffirms his loyalty to Omega once the truth of his potential future is revealed.

  • @legendarycryptid2629
    @legendarycryptid2629 Рік тому +4

    7:51 11:25 Aw, no Still for those parts? That's always the best part of the Egg Glock moments.

  • @_thejuicebox
    @_thejuicebox Рік тому +4

    I’m glad you mentioned Advent Children cause it was the first thing I thought of.

  • @Lets-Talk_
    @Lets-Talk_ Рік тому +6

    I feel like Tangle and Whisper as a couple would be great. They just seem so wholesome together. Imagine if there was a story in an annual where Tangle teaches Whisper to be less introverted.

    • @boneboogity9890
      @boneboogity9890 Рік тому +1

      Whisper doesnt -have- to be less introverted. Some folks are just wired that way and being extraverted isnt inherently worse

    • @goldenninja9053
      @goldenninja9053 Рік тому +2

      You...can't really teach someone to not be an introvert...

    • @Lets-Talk_
      @Lets-Talk_ Рік тому

      @@goldenninja9053 yeah. I suppose but the reason Whisper is such an introvert is because her entire team died. She distances herself from others because of the trauma of her past. Maybe Tangle could help her overcome it.

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap Рік тому

      ​​​@@Lets-Talk_think whisper was an introvert even before they died and she was just comfortable around her team for the most part. Their deaths just pushed her to clam up even more than usual probably.

  • @zeoxdragon
    @zeoxdragon Рік тому +7

    Look, I rather not have any canon ships and let fans make up their minds and ideas, Tangle X Whisper is extremely obvious and I feel the majority will ship them but like, I rather not have stories about romances and about "oh what can I buy to my girlfriend" or "oh my I saw her talking to someone else, I will be jealous and angry and think they are cheating on me!"... you know, the kind of stories that were on old Archie and I feel like they don't belong here. Tangle and Whisper are an obvious couple, we know it, but the Sonic comics shouldn't be about romances but rather adventures or something I don't know it may be just me not wanting to happen like what happen on old Archie and being too afraid of that.
    Besides maybe some people ship Tangle with Jewel, as long as there is no official confirmation they have more freedom with shipping whatever they want.

  • @YourAverageNerd06
    @YourAverageNerd06 Рік тому +5

    “For his neutral special, he wields a gun.”

  • @SaltedMallows
    @SaltedMallows Рік тому +3

    Man, happy to have these back.
    I hope for more speed reading

  • @Kunori
    @Kunori Рік тому +4

    The last couple of issues of this seemed off to me. Like, as you mentioned, the new portals were talked up to be threatening and then did nothing, so the best interpretation was that eggman just... was wrong about them? His own tech that he'd previously tested with prototypes and bothered to make multiple of? It comes across like they just wrote themselves into a corner they couldn't escape with the time available and had to just fudge out of it. Similar the weirdness with tangibility or not, it seemed to just work by plot convenience, there are plausible plantations but those explanations aren't given or even hinted towards enough. A couple other things stood out to me too, my biggest was when Rouge got swiped at by a shadow android hand but then... nothing, the next panel it was as if it just hadn't happened, I re-read that a few times thinking I must have missed something. For as much buildup as the city and eggman's dimensional experiments had, there was a lot of spectacle but a lot less substance and structure than I'd come to expect from these writers.

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap Рік тому

      As Ian says this book is aimed at "12 year olds", so don't think about it too much. They are just getting a paycheck rather than writing stories that have timeless appeal.

    • @arran4285
      @arran4285 Рік тому

      @@Snaaaaap Aka easy pay without hard work or care

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior Рік тому +1

    I don't think you have any idea how much you've made me a fan of EGGMAN'S GLOCK.
    The comics themselves turned me into an Omega fan, and of course a fan of the new characters, but EGGMAN'S GLOCK is so fun, too.

  • @MasterSwo-MK
    @MasterSwo-MK Рік тому +4

    I swear guys, this whole arc was just a total mood!

  • @thatfriendwhosesanityyouquesti

    I just immediately assumed Tangle’s intangibility to be wearing off as the comic continued, like the invisibility did. At first, she’s completely intangible, then she’s intangible if she forces her way through things (atoms don’t like being displaced, so it makes sense that they force her out if she’s not actively pushing her way through them), then it finally wears off completely when the group splits up.
    I’ve seen other franchises do something similar, where intangible characters are forced out of walls or floors if they stop being intangible while in another solid object. Atoms can’t be destroyed, just displaced, and they tend to not like sharing their space with other atoms. Hence the shoving.

  • @JothThehuman
    @JothThehuman Рік тому +1

    I love how Nick just has a drawing of him smacking sonic on hand ready to be used.

  • @zildakar
    @zildakar Рік тому +4

    Massive respect for putting that pun in the thumbnail lmao

  • @triledink
    @triledink Рік тому +1

    11:31 There is something about eggman pulling his ''blicky out to ice some fools'' that makes him the GOAT in the comic series.

  • @Z_is_z
    @Z_is_z Рік тому +3

    I guess that tangle is like a ghost where she can pass through things but still interact with them at the same time, idk

  • @speedymarvin
    @speedymarvin Рік тому +15

    There is nothing wrong with Tangle and Whisper just being best friends. In fact I'd prefer it

    • @icedude_907
      @icedude_907 Рік тому +3

      Given Tangle's bubbly character, I personally feel like it would be a slight retconn.

  • @cjr4444
    @cjr4444 Рік тому +1

    I like to think the intangibility is kinda speed/gravity like for example how tangle fell thru the floor and popped back up, I like to think of it like (I was really struggling to explain this) she's connected to some kind of center of gravity that keeps her from falling thru the entire planet, if she's fast enough she can go thru walls and if she falls fast enough she can temporarily fall thru the floor before being pulled/pushed back up.
    also: maybe its also emotion based in someway?
    she could also be going in and out of it at random I guess :I

    • @cjr4444
      @cjr4444 Рік тому

      also i love how egg man keeps pulling out the Glock.

  • @humanperson620
    @humanperson620 Рік тому +1

    Did the city even have people in it?
    What happened to Eggman?
    What is going to happen to Metal Sonic?
    Man the comics are crazy.

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer Рік тому +1

      If by people you mean Badniks, then yes.

  • @scarletlion1318
    @scarletlion1318 Рік тому +1

    This is a good comic to end off the arc. The artwork in this is just so incredible. A Eggman is truly a menace because he literally pulled a gun and threatened to shoot Tangle's brains out. Eggman was that determined to complete his goals even if it means killing someone or holding people hostage. I love the part with Silver and Shadow. About silver encouraging Shadow to break through this rock that is in capsule in him and I know what the did with the 'it's no use'that Shadow said that kind of triggered Silver but thanks to his words and powers combined with Shadow they were able to break Shadow free. And I love the teamwork and dynamics of the characters. They've literally threw Sonic like a ball charging up more speed and power to impact the machine and channel using his chaos powers to teleport the city off to space before the whole thing blows. And Shadow was quick thinking and creative with his powers. And I love the character development between Tangle and Whisper. They really did grow throughout the arc and they are able to be more happy. And also I got to talk about these artwork behind them showing the lesbian flag. I ship Tangle x Whisper or Whispangle. And they have been hinted to be a thing. And with them holding hands and getting close. And about Tangle learn from her mistakes and her caring about her friends and not losing more and saying sorry and Whisper actually fighting through her trauma. And with the art that they'd gone through I think they deserve each other. It's the best ship ever and I can't agree enough. And also this is one of my favorite ships ever. And honestly that was one of my favorite things in this and I am so happy and amazed! Go Whispangle🥰😍❤❤🎉!!!!!!!

  • @captainpie9793
    @captainpie9793 Рік тому +5

    Oh hey perfect timing I just finished your most recent speed reading. 😂

  • @flargensnarf6500
    @flargensnarf6500 Рік тому +4

    Personally I’d love to see these comic characters show up in an rpg sonic spin off series. Personally I really liked Sonic chronicles and thought it had a lot of potential. Using a spin off for these characters would be a great way to subtly introduce these characters into the mainline and build upon the potential of Sonic chronicles without getting into any trouble with he who shall not be named

    • @looking4agoodtime89
      @looking4agoodtime89 Рік тому

      A 3rd person shooter with Whisper:
      We start at the beginning of her career with the diamond cutters and witness all the capabilities of their whisps in the tutorial. Then the bulk of the game is her going around during the Eggman war helping the resistance, gaining knowledge about her whisps and weapon so that she can upgrade its capabilities along with her whisps (think a tech tree that unlocks more nodes as she defeats enemies).
      A cool rpg shooter that I don’t feel like expanding on at the moment cause I’m more than a few shots deep into this here bottle of Cap’n Morgan Rum.
      I’m off to hydrate now, wish me luck.

  • @MattAnd
    @MattAnd Рік тому +3

    Two game apologist videos in one evening? We’re eating well tonight!
    (Though hope you aren’t burning yourself out to pump out two videos at once though!)

  • @MrSkysenGames
    @MrSkysenGames Рік тому +3

    I figured Tangle's intangibility was a focus thing, like Kitty Pryde from X-men. Had to try to be solid and, with all the chaos, kept losing the focus and falling through stuff.
    And while I'm fine with shippers shipping, especially since this is the Sonic fandom, I think I honestly prefer the sort of buddy cop style dynamic between Whisper and Tangle to something romantic. Entertainment value, maybe.
    Also, has Rouge been getting a little more...cartoony with expressions lately? A lot of funny faces going around, but I'm used to her mostly just expressing sass.

  • @therealfigu
    @therealfigu Рік тому +2

    I think the thing with Tangle is that she keeps switching between being tangible and intangible and not controlling it too well when in stressful situations (like a fight or a chase) due to her atoms being sort of...disturbed? Like she has no real control over her own body which is quite ironic for her character and her preferred style of fighting. Her body parts going between these 2 states convincing and inconvincing her largely at the same time. It seems both smart and lazily convinient, but I don't mind it that much tbh

  • @railroadmillion681
    @railroadmillion681 Рік тому +9

    Honestly I like the subtle approach of Whispers and Tangle's relationship. It give more focus on their characters and personalities and it feels more like organic relationship.

  • @garrettviewegh677
    @garrettviewegh677 Рік тому +3

    While the story for the next arc could go somewhere else entirely, I do wonder if the artifact from Angel Island may tie into Frontiers? Not sure how. But, I simply would love to see Sage in the IDW comics at some point. If IDW chooses to involve her in the story, it may be a bit tricky doing so, as the comics take place after Force. Though we do know the mainline game after Forces is Frontiers. I’d say, the best way IDW could debut Sage in the comics, is Sonic and friends suddenly meeting her again in another Eggman related plot. A time skip could be the best option. However, I’m sure we’ll see more of Eggman with Sage in later games.

    • @skyray16
      @skyray16 Рік тому

      If you played Sonic Adventure you might remember that these statues are the keys so it seems we'll see heroes open new part of echidna ruins

    • @looking4agoodtime89
      @looking4agoodtime89 Рік тому

      That there artifact is MOST DEFINITELY a Chekhov’s Gun item.

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 Рік тому +2

    Permeation/Intangibility is something she was turning off and on at will.

  • @TheMAZZTer
    @TheMAZZTer Рік тому +1

    In sci-fi whenever someone has the power to phase through matter it's NEVER applied consistently since that means they would immediately fall through the floor if the power was active, making it pretty useless.

  • @jravee5994
    @jravee5994 Рік тому +3

    eggman's glock is my favorite character in this comic

  • @MMDAQ
    @MMDAQ Рік тому +4

    Need a legit video essay on Shadow's various portrayals across all comics (if possible) and the negatives and positives of them

  • @byonty886
    @byonty886 Рік тому +1

    i think that tangle had already become in a normal state when they're going for the rescue, she just didn't realize until he fight with metal sonic at the end(i suppose?)

  • @krackkokichi
    @krackkokichi Рік тому +6

    wait you thought shadows dialogue was cringy 😭 i thought it was badass

  • @velocityninja
    @velocityninja Рік тому +1

    Metal Sonic establishing Badnik superiority over that Turtle Mech is one of the greatest things ive seen

  • @skylerburnside8337
    @skylerburnside8337 Рік тому +1

    I think Tangle, which I found funny she was in-Tangle-ible, is like Kitty Pryde on and off. It more emotional control, when she panic she went through stuff she didn't want to. When she focus like sitting and or saving Sonic or punching Metal.

  • @garrettviewegh9028
    @garrettviewegh9028 7 місяців тому

    I love how persistent Metal was here. Much like a Terminator, he doesn’t stop, he’s relentless. He doesn’t stop until his given orders/mission is complete. Or, at least, until Sonic is dead.😅

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Рік тому +1

    Hm, fair and valid points and opinions,
    This was a very interesting Arc, i wonder what’s next? Will look forward to see.

  • @user-iu4jl6cg4n
    @user-iu4jl6cg4n Рік тому +1

    I dont get it, these animals can crush gigantic metal robots but dr eggman can manhandle them whenever he wants and they are suddenly helpless?

  • @henrymalloy1344
    @henrymalloy1344 5 місяців тому

    someone: sonic characters aren't that overpowered.
    Shadow the hedgehog: * launches an entire city into space *

  • @umbreonmaster8921
    @umbreonmaster8921 Рік тому +1

    I think the next comic arc will revolve around angel island and the echidna clans, maybe even the Nocturnis clan. With the echidna artifact being shown at the end with a close up, I bet it will be important in at least some way in the future idw comics.

  • @CyanicCore
    @CyanicCore Рік тому +1

    My favorite part of this segment was how seriously Eggman was treated. Throughout the franchise he's usually portrayed as helpless or even irrelevant without minions or a mech, and it looks like the comic is about to do that again until he pulls out his gun. This even goes both ways with members of the cast actually hitting him, though it doesn't go as far as to show him wounded - probably a good call.

    • @Cosmik60
      @Cosmik60 2 місяці тому

      eggman with a normal sized pistol is the funniest thing ever

  • @satelliteprime
    @satelliteprime Рік тому +2

    *Two* Game Apologist uploads in one day? But my birthday is still so many months away!

  • @CyanicCore
    @CyanicCore Рік тому +1

    While there's no guarantees, I assumed Tangle's state was meant to be changing over time. First she's invisible and intangible excluding floors, then she was visible but still intangible, then she could hang onto Metal somewhat like the floor gimmick (note she's still intangible enough Metal can't hit her), and she finally becomes tangible again shortly after.

  • @Sleepy-dn4cc
    @Sleepy-dn4cc Рік тому +1

    is it explained why and how Silver came back? I thought he went back home after the metal virus and saved his future

  • @HunhowsShadowStalker
    @HunhowsShadowStalker Рік тому +1

    For Eggman's neutral special, he uses a gun.

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 3 місяці тому

    When anybody is given the reins of a story set in an established fictional universe, there are two major things they need to be able to do to show themselves as worthy of it. The first is taking the established characters and elevating them in some way from what they've been before. And the second is being able to introduce new character to the canon that audiences will happily embrace. With characters like Metal, Ian has succeeded in the former, and with those like Tangle he has undoubtedly triumphed in the latter 😊

  • @SonicForges
    @SonicForges 8 місяців тому

    The way he says glock has me dying!😂 Also I think the intangibility power fades in and out. That might be what they were going for.

  • @HateSonneillon
    @HateSonneillon Рік тому +2

    Your series actually made me want to buy some Sonic comics but none of my local comic shops carry Sonic >.>

  • @Hallofmediocity
    @Hallofmediocity Рік тому +1

    I think the dimensional traps were based on the tracking traps in Titanic Monarch in Mania.

  • @metalsonic3845
    @metalsonic3845 Рік тому +8

    I despise the thought of Whisper and Tangle being a couple

  • @Yusukegirl
    @Yusukegirl Рік тому +2

    8:41 This totally reminds me of Pokémon 3 the Movie with Entei and the crystals! 😮 Is it possible they took inspiration?