@@HSuper_Lee especially since we can assume the same thing happened as happened with this saga and a few have partially completed animatics because Jay worked with them for a 'better' stream.
So “mentor” was actually a name. And the first time the name was ever used was in the Odyssey. What happened is Athena disguised herself as an old woman named Mentor and taught Telemachus. Since then it has become a common noun when referring to the role of a personal teacher. Isn’t that cool?
Honestly the only complaint I have about this song is that is soooooo short! This is actually my favorite of the Wisdom Saga because oh my god Teagan with those high notes and then the harmonies? Her and Miguel sound so good together. And I love that Gigi drew Athena finally returning the High Five. If you'll recall, Ody tried to high five her back in Warrior of the Mind when he was a kid ("Goddess and man, bestest of friends." "We'll see where it ends.") and Athena kind of brushed him off. But now she's even calling him her friend and saying she can't sleep at night because of how she handled their fallout. Yes! We love character development!
Its important to note that this is a purely emotional decision With Odysseus she appeared ONLY as a mentor and *ONLY* once he proved himself. It was a trade. Athena gets a warrior of the mind to make her look good, Odysseus gets trained/mentored by the goddess of wisdom herself Telemachus has NOT proved himself. He doesnt know how to fight, hasnt exhibited any particular skillset AND he loses his 1v1 fight. Athena is not looking at Telemachus as an investment/ prospect, shes here for personal reasons. Shes here BECAUSE he is Odysseus' son & she finally wants to do right by him. Athena just learned the hard way that its not so easy to "turn off your heart"
For the last two animatics I recommend DuvetBox’s “Love In Paradise,” they’re the artist who did Legendary and Little Wolf! And then I recommend NealIllustrator’s “God Games,” they’re the one who did Thunder Bringer and spent two months making this new one! It released a couple days ago.
The idea that Athena ended up turning into a different sort of mentor than the sort she’s wanted to be isn’t one I’ve heard before but it fits very well.
Our little Disney Princess at his best. BTW if you want to batch record the next two songs together (even if you don't post them yet) you'll be in for a treat because the next Saga (VENGENCE) of songs drops on the 31st! HOWEVER there will be a live stream on the 30th (we're not sure of the time yet but it looks to be between 2000-2130 EST) and the livestream will start from the beginning of Epic with Canon commissioned works (very very good stuff!) and stage directions. Hopefully, this time UA-cam won't copyright claim the livestream (like they did during the Wisdom Saga Livestream). Though please record your reactions to this if you do decide to do this! If not, it may take a few weeks before the animatics start coming out for the newest songs! If you haven't picked the next two animatics I'd recommend Ximena Natzel for "Love in Paradise" and Neil Illustrator for "God Games"
So excited for "Love in Paradise", that's gonna be good reaction. Also, gonna say it again, seriously recommending AnniFlamma's animatic for "God Games". There's an outstanding level of talent pumped into it, and they still have my favorite interpretations for the gods yet.
Well, Athena hasnt actually said Anything about mentoring Telemachus If fact, she says she came to "Help you reach your goal" Telemachus hasnt shown the promise of his father (bro lost even WITH divine intervention) Meanwhile, Athena DID try to keep herself at arm's length from Odysseus. She was his mentor & he was her champion This song simply shows us she _failed_ to remain an objective mentor. She grew to care so much for Odysseus that she is now losing sleep over how they ended things (She doesnt even know what he's been up to, shes losing sleep over their fight
Definitely hope you watch neal illustrators god games when you reach it they are the same person that made the thunder bringer animatic you reacted to. Also a new set of songs is coming out soon
2 days livestream of vengeance saga (and everything else released). Going through with the livestream partial animatics may give you more insight on what J came up with the stories
Does Telemachus remind anyone else of _another_ optimistic/positive character who sings to his friend about how everything's gonna be ok? Telemachus: Boy I wish I could so I could bring the world some light Polites: No matter the place, we can light up the world Telemachus: I know we'll be fine, I know it's light you'll find Polites: We'll be fine if we're leading from the heart Both Telemachus & Polites tell their friends (Athena & Odysseus) that the world is actually pretty neat & they should embrace it Telemachus: Maybe, it's all gonna turn out great! Polites: This life is amazing, when you greet it with open arms
Neal Illustrator or Anniflamma for God Games (last song of wisdom saga) please! To be honest they're both amazing and it's totally worth watching both.
edit: I got suggestions for God games reaction: If you are fine with MINOR nudity(nothing serious and mostly implied) Annaflamma's is best one I think. For fun you can react to Neal Illustrator too BUT WATCH OUT HER ANIMATIC DESPITE BEING AMAZING AND BEATIFUL ITS EXTREMLY CANON. It is amazing but if you want more story related animatics either go with Anniflamma is a must be and don't worry about nudity its nothing tasteless and got really good artistic points heads up: "his light went dark" is refering to polites not "him becoming a darker person". Here she doesn't know what happened to him, she did close the door and this is the first time she is admitting she is worried for him. This part is my take: "We grew apart" is refering to "Open arms" song nd "his light went dark" is when they got seperated. Because after polites died he got too emotional and done a mistake she could not tolerate. Because at open arms song he does accept world view of Polites and for that she lectures him, thus growing apart and his death seals the deal Reason "his light went dark" is polites is that there was a removed song "Your Light", another song for Polites refering to him as he is light of Odysseus.
Hi! Awesome reaction, and yes, looking back at all that has happened finally feels like something good has come out of it As another commentor said, Vengance Saga comes out in two days!! 5 new songs and story to vibe with!! It'll be awesome if you could be in the livestream watching alongside all of us as a fandom activity, but if you can't that's totally okay! Jay is going to keep the stream up for a while, so even if you can't be there you can definitelly come back later to record your reactions to it! This is best since we are really on the dark about some of them so animatics might take a while to get done
Im absolutely of the opinion that "Thunder Bringer" should be the act 1 finale. Its the bookend to "Full Speed Ahead." Its the end of the crew. In a way, its the end of Odysseus' journey, at least as we have known him up until now Then the Wisdom Saga opens up with a whole new set of characters. IMAGINE! Zeus obliterating the crew, sitting with that throughout the intermission, then coming back & having the setting changed. The characters changed. We seem to be following a new protagonist now. We're 3 songs in & _No Odysseus_ Idk, i feel like it'd be very impactful Moreso than ending with "Monster" & opening with "Suffering" tbh
I hope, *hope* you do JoJo Fraga's animatic for Love In Paradise! I really hope you do! It's very underrated and you probably won't do it since there are more "popular" ones, but there is a smidge of hope. 😔 (Can't wait for Neal Illustrator's God Games! Well, I hope you do it haha.)
IN TWO DAYS YOU'LL HAVE 5 MORE AS THE NEXT SAGA COMES OUT :)) Athena ... what a character arc :)) My favorite in the musical, easily. It's so relieving to see this shift and how she's the first god to reward bravery/kindness. This is really exactly what we needed after the last few sagas. Also, day 3 of asking you to watch Anniflamma's God Games when you get there
I love your reactions. I love seeing your breakdowns of the scenes and audio. I too enjoy analyzing things. However, with Neal Illustrator’s God Games up, photosensitive viewers like me won’t be able to watch. It has lights and nonstop motion. Great job, but the constant motion and lights are a lot. (I watched it without knowing how heavy it would be, and was negatively affected). You should still check it out, just maybe not as a first time view? I want to be able to see and hear your first thoughts on the song, but sensitive viewers like myself won’t be able to. If you could pick another God Games, I would appreciate it immensely.
I do hope you do anniflammas god games the others are good but thats how alot of people had originally found epic the musical back when it was just snippets
The Vengeance Saga comes out in two days
And considering the speed of the fanbase, animatics probably 3 days after that.
@@HSuper_Lee especially since we can assume the same thing happened as happened with this saga and a few have partially completed animatics because Jay worked with them for a 'better' stream.
Can’t flipping wait 🎉🎉🎉🎉
So “mentor” was actually a name. And the first time the name was ever used was in the Odyssey. What happened is Athena disguised herself as an old woman named Mentor and taught Telemachus. Since then it has become a common noun when referring to the role of a personal teacher. Isn’t that cool?
Honestly the only complaint I have about this song is that is soooooo short! This is actually my favorite of the Wisdom Saga because oh my god Teagan with those high notes and then the harmonies? Her and Miguel sound so good together. And I love that Gigi drew Athena finally returning the High Five. If you'll recall, Ody tried to high five her back in Warrior of the Mind when he was a kid ("Goddess and man, bestest of friends." "We'll see where it ends.") and Athena kind of brushed him off. But now she's even calling him her friend and saying she can't sleep at night because of how she handled their fallout. Yes! We love character development!
Its important to note that this is a purely emotional decision
With Odysseus she appeared ONLY as a mentor and *ONLY* once he proved himself. It was a trade. Athena gets a warrior of the mind to make her look good, Odysseus gets trained/mentored by the goddess of wisdom herself
Telemachus has NOT proved himself. He doesnt know how to fight, hasnt exhibited any particular skillset AND he loses his 1v1 fight. Athena is not looking at Telemachus as an investment/ prospect, shes here for personal reasons. Shes here BECAUSE he is Odysseus' son & she finally wants to do right by him.
Athena just learned the hard way that its not so easy to "turn off your heart"
For the last two animatics I recommend DuvetBox’s “Love In Paradise,” they’re the artist who did Legendary and Little Wolf! And then I recommend NealIllustrator’s “God Games,” they’re the one who did Thunder Bringer and spent two months making this new one! It released a couple days ago.
The idea that Athena ended up turning into a different sort of mentor than the sort she’s wanted to be isn’t one I’ve heard before but it fits very well.
Our little Disney Princess at his best.
BTW if you want to batch record the next two songs together (even if you don't post them yet) you'll be in for a treat because the next Saga (VENGENCE) of songs drops on the 31st! HOWEVER there will be a live stream on the 30th (we're not sure of the time yet but it looks to be between 2000-2130 EST) and the livestream will start from the beginning of Epic with Canon commissioned works (very very good stuff!) and stage directions. Hopefully, this time UA-cam won't copyright claim the livestream (like they did during the Wisdom Saga Livestream). Though please record your reactions to this if you do decide to do this! If not, it may take a few weeks before the animatics start coming out for the newest songs!
If you haven't picked the next two animatics I'd recommend Ximena Natzel for "Love in Paradise" and Neil Illustrator for "God Games"
Neal is truly an animatic god
So excited for "Love in Paradise", that's gonna be good reaction.
Also, gonna say it again, seriously recommending AnniFlamma's animatic for "God Games". There's an outstanding level of talent pumped into it, and they still have my favorite interpretations for the gods yet.
Agreed. Love in Paradise is gonna be a great reaction and Anniflamma’s God Games animatic is next level!
You still have 2 sagas, dont worry
The Vengeance Saga comes out October 30!
Well, Athena hasnt actually said Anything about mentoring Telemachus
If fact, she says she came to "Help you reach your goal"
Telemachus hasnt shown the promise of his father (bro lost even WITH divine intervention)
Meanwhile, Athena DID try to keep herself at arm's length from Odysseus. She was his mentor & he was her champion
This song simply shows us she _failed_ to remain an objective mentor. She grew to care so much for Odysseus that she is now losing sleep over how they ended things
(She doesnt even know what he's been up to, shes losing sleep over their fight
Reaching the end of Wisdom just in time to see Vengeance.
Definitely hope you watch neal illustrators god games when you reach it they are the same person that made the thunder bringer animatic you reacted to. Also a new set of songs is coming out soon
2 days livestream of vengeance saga (and everything else released). Going through with the livestream partial animatics may give you more insight on what J came up with the stories
I CANNOT recommend Neal Illustrator's version of God Games ENOUGH. Hands down the most impressive animation done for Epic.
Really nice analysis! I’m super excited for the Vengeance Saga and I really hope you get to watch the livestream, reaction or not!
Next saga is almost here don't worry
Does Telemachus remind anyone else of _another_ optimistic/positive character who sings to his friend about how everything's gonna be ok?
Telemachus: Boy I wish I could so I could bring the world some light
Polites: No matter the place, we can light up the world
Telemachus: I know we'll be fine, I know it's light you'll find
Polites: We'll be fine if we're leading from the heart
Both Telemachus & Polites tell their friends (Athena & Odysseus) that the world is actually pretty neat & they should embrace it
Telemachus: Maybe, it's all gonna turn out great!
Polites: This life is amazing, when you greet it with open arms
Neal Illustrator or Anniflamma for God Games (last song of wisdom saga) please! To be honest they're both amazing and it's totally worth watching both.
edit: I got suggestions for God games reaction: If you are fine with MINOR nudity(nothing serious and mostly implied) Annaflamma's is best one I think. For fun you can react to Neal Illustrator too BUT WATCH OUT HER ANIMATIC DESPITE BEING AMAZING AND BEATIFUL ITS EXTREMLY CANON. It is amazing but if you want more story related animatics either go with Anniflamma is a must be and don't worry about nudity its nothing tasteless and got really good artistic points
heads up: "his light went dark" is refering to polites not "him becoming a darker person". Here she doesn't know what happened to him, she did close the door and this is the first time she is admitting she is worried for him.
This part is my take: "We grew apart" is refering to "Open arms" song nd "his light went dark" is when they got seperated. Because after polites died he got too emotional and done a mistake she could not tolerate.
Because at open arms song he does accept world view of Polites and for that she lectures him, thus growing apart
and his death seals the deal
Reason "his light went dark" is polites is that there was a removed song "Your Light", another song for Polites refering to him as he is light of Odysseus.
Hi! Awesome reaction, and yes, looking back at all that has happened finally feels like something good has come out of it
As another commentor said, Vengance Saga comes out in two days!! 5 new songs and story to vibe with!! It'll be awesome if you could be in the livestream watching alongside all of us as a fandom activity, but if you can't that's totally okay! Jay is going to keep the stream up for a while, so even if you can't be there you can definitelly come back later to record your reactions to it! This is best since we are really on the dark about some of them so animatics might take a while to get done
I second this!!
EEEE Yay! This one is one of my favorites
This is a nice sweet song. Looking forward to seeing your reactions to the last two songs of the saga.
Can’t wait for your heart reaction to the next one and then the insanity of God Games.
LET’S GO!
Im absolutely of the opinion that "Thunder Bringer" should be the act 1 finale.
Its the bookend to "Full Speed Ahead." Its the end of the crew. In a way, its the end of Odysseus' journey, at least as we have known him up until now
Then the Wisdom Saga opens up with a whole new set of characters. IMAGINE! Zeus obliterating the crew, sitting with that throughout the intermission, then coming back & having the setting changed.
The characters changed.
We seem to be following a new protagonist now.
We're 3 songs in & _No Odysseus_
Idk, i feel like it'd be very impactful
Moreso than ending with "Monster" & opening with "Suffering" tbh
I hope, *hope* you do JoJo Fraga's animatic for Love In Paradise! I really hope you do! It's very underrated and you probably won't do it since there are more "popular" ones, but there is a smidge of hope.
😔
(Can't wait for Neal Illustrator's God Games! Well, I hope you do it haha.)
IN TWO DAYS YOU'LL HAVE 5 MORE AS THE NEXT SAGA COMES OUT :))
Athena ... what a character arc :)) My favorite in the musical, easily. It's so relieving to see this shift and how she's the first god to reward bravery/kindness. This is really exactly what we needed after the last few sagas.
Also, day 3 of asking you to watch Anniflamma's God Games when you get there
Halloween next saga is out
I love your reactions. I love seeing your breakdowns of the scenes and audio. I too enjoy analyzing things. However, with Neal Illustrator’s God Games up, photosensitive viewers like me won’t be able to watch. It has lights and nonstop motion. Great job, but the constant motion and lights are a lot. (I watched it without knowing how heavy it would be, and was negatively affected). You should still check it out, just maybe not as a first time view? I want to be able to see and hear your first thoughts on the song, but sensitive viewers like myself won’t be able to. If you could pick another God Games, I would appreciate it immensely.
Please do Noir.Hyacinth or Ximena Natzel Love in Paradise. There are really good 🙏🙏🙏
YES! Ximena needs more reactions!
I do hope you do anniflammas god games the others are good but thats how alot of people had originally found epic the musical back when it was just snippets