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Fun fact my gay ass watched this video with no knowledge of the show, then proceeded to binge the whole thing. Five months later I proudly report back to you wearing my Buffy tee shirt literally right now after rewatching the “Bad Girls” episode today lmao - thank you for introducing me to this show, it’s been a really big comfort for me lately 💖💖
LMAO TYSM FOR PINNING ME 😭😭😭💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Omg this was so sweet to read. I watched Buffy when I was young but now that I am a fully formed lesbian I may go watch it with different eyes. 🥰🥰
THATS SO SWEET HAHAHA
Glad this show reaches à New generation.
You gonna love Willow then. First massive LGBT character mainstreamed and she's just an amazing character. No political BS. Just pure awesome
Eliza Dushku herself has said that she played Faith as if the character had a thing for Buffy
It shows
Fuffy verse vindicated!
And the episode in Angell where she first comes to LA [Five by Five] and goes on a rampage … her going with Lila outside a club.
Apparently the director had notes from FOX _not to allow Eliza_ to play it "too gay", as she wanted it to appear that Faith was being gay for pay with the rich businesswoman, but only now that she was borderline psychotic she went violence instead.
And when you think about it, even with just the background character material established then, Faith had been living on the streets by herself for most of her teenage years, so she would've done a lot of "work".
And a person that highly sexualised would definitely try bi.
@@casbot71 very insightful
@@casbot71
That scene TOTALLY read gay-for-pay! (or rather, gay PLUS pay ;-/ )
No wonder faith was so bitter she was in love with a straight girl who only dates undead guys
That actually explains alot.
неловкая ситуация))
disputing the statement; reveal happened around 2010/11 but buffy is actually not straight at all and boy do i wish they had explored this thing with faith
@@blissdelpopolo6322 No buffys a necrophilliac...
@@blissdelpopolo6322 Wasn't it a one time thing and she was like... never again? Sounds about straight to me.
Guys is it gay to break into a girls classroom, call her girlfriend and draw a heart on the window for her?
Buffy gives off massive gay panic attack whenever faith put on the charm.
Nah clearly just gal pals 😆 Not gay at all /s
I think Joss Whedon shipped it and that is why he snuck in so many gay jokes between them and had Faith kiss Buffy. It seemed prominent that Faith at least had feelings for her.
nothing gay about that! God! Why is everyone trying to make everything out to be gay now adays? It's gay when I call a girl my girlfriend. it's gay when I break into her classroom and draw hearts on her window. it's gay when I make out with her. It's gay when we get married. Like Jesus Christ everyone, stop reading so much gay context into things that isn't there every time two women are friendly.
p.s. I assume I was being obvious enough that I was being factious but it's the internet so it's probably not for someone lol
Buffy and Faith both give big bi energy. Buffy is neutral bi, Faith is chaotic bi.
Wow so accurate
buffy is canonically bisexual, in the comics she sleeps with a woman🤭
Eh faith gives bi vibes and buffy is clearly straight
@@russelljordan7688 You've clearly never read the comics. Buffy fully sleeps with a woman in them. She's bi.
@@mandipandi303 I've read the comics. And I'm bi. And that felt contrived to me. Buffy gives me straight vibes, Faith gives me hardcore bi vibes. Buuuut, my gaydar might suck, lol.
“really we’re just good friends” YEAH RIGHT
shes so bad at lying 🙄
Buffy is just bisexual tbh. In the comics it's more apparent but she never tells openly that she's a bisexual. She has sex with another female hunter in the comics 2 times. And her relationship with Faith has always been... well, more than friends if you ask me. Idk, it just doesnt seem like a completely platonic relationship
Let’s be real though everyone in that school thought they were together
you sound like a history teacher talking about those best friends who lived together till death and had two cats
I mean, aside from their rivalry, Buffy and Faith were somewhat friends at least until Faith got lost to evil. But at the end, the two hold a mutual respect for one another. Buffy always knew Faith had so much more potential. She was like a big sister to Faith (hence the sister references, aside from the Dawn foreshadowing) That's why she doesn't hesitate to pass the torch to Faith in the final battle when she gets hurt. Faith probably looked up to Buffy as a mentor but she just was so young and misguided to admit it until season 7
Anyone else now wish that Buffy's toxic friends with benefits situation would have been with Faith instead of Spike?
yeah i loved spike and buffy and i thought their dynamic was interesting, but i feel like faith and buffy could have really worked out.
Oh, yeah for sure. I was a Baith fan back when it was airing, and now in retrospect it feels even more clear that they would have been explosive and toxic, but so dynamic and fun to watch.
Whedon really wanted to bring in LBQT themes in starting with Xander and finally ending with Willow. I suspect he was playing with trying such themes with every character. He's famous for planning ahead but I think he just has a lot of pokes in the fire and a lot of possibilities being experimented with. Buffy's growing separation and distrust of everything and everyone would've played well into such themes.
Pity, the Whedon toxic work environment and misogyny issue has tainted his work now.
@@sheltondaal6425 I think Whedon was just playing with a lot of possibilities to see how well each played. The first gay theme was in season 1 when he joined the swim team to find out why they were being turned into fish monsters, that and the class bully that bullied Xander wound up coming out as gay. The Willow theme came out much later with her doppelganger being the first indications. I'm sure the Buffy and Faith was just more exploration into whether or not to bring in such themes with those characters. Everyone says Whedon plans well in advance, I think he just tries out a lot of ideas and has everything in play to see what works. He wanted such themes but was uncertain which characters to do it with.
Every day.
This has more sexual tension than the fights between Kim possible and shego
We are all just suckers for the enemies to lovers aren’t we xD
@@toff1568 indeed
No they don't these characters aren't lesbian
@@PeterParker-ff7ub awww
It's so cute than you're in denial
@@PeterParker-ff7ub
Bi then
Joss: Willow and Tara are the only gay main characters :)
Buffy and Faith: hold my stake
Buffy should have put a stake in Spike and Faith.
-Breaks into a girl's classroom;
-Call her girlfriend;
-Draw a heart on her window
*Writers:* Yep, 0% gay energy
What episode?
@@katiebarker5717 Season 3 Episode 14 i think
@@yMoron Yup! It's Titled "Bad Girls"
Eliza played faith so well, I can't see her as anything else.
TRUE, but her performance in Dollhouse is unreal
I actually see her as Shego in Kim Possible. Perfect live action Shego. The personalities/Spunk are so similar
She was amazing in Dollhouse. Dollhouse was just amazing, I wish it didn’t have to be rushed
Eliza had way too much fun with that finale clip line "see who lands on top"
MY LITTLE GAY HEART CANNOT HANDLE THIS AT ALL
Omg sameeee
That’s what I thought too! These two are my second pairs of crushes, after Xena and Callisto. ( I always loved the fiery passion they have when fighting and I love bad girls and villains best.)
straight head will not handle it
Right?! The "there's my girl" kills me every time!!! 😫💗
I still ship them so hard. Even when I watched in real time as a kid I wanted them together!
Honestly it reads as Buffy is straight but kinda knows that Faith might actually have a thing for her and she plays into it and jokes about it sometimes. Because most of the clips its Faith being quite sexual and using innuendo and then Buffy joking about being on a date. (Also look at Faith's reaction to her saying "really we're just good friends")
Nice catch!
Ahaha I didn't saw that but yes she was just "Good what ?!"
Yeah I completely agree
That or buffy is a repressed bisexual. She did get weird when willow came out to her. There are loads of us bi women who look and read really straight!
These two aren’t even a thing But the have MORE chemistry then spike and angel
Faith gives me masc lesbian switch vibes with her energy and dress
The whole buddy and faith dancing scene seems like someone was like this is too gay have some dudes come in and dance with them
well a always thought Spike and Angel had chemistry oh you meant with Buffy
Angel was perfect for her
@@houseofmatrix6174 no he wasn’t, for one as previously mentioned they had NO chemistry 2. They’re natural enemies 3. The only time they were interesting was when angel went evil
His woe is me mopey bullshit for three fucking season was annoying
@@torakunoichi Ángel and Buffy we’re meant to be. I’m Faith fan but everybody could feel their chemistry
@@houseofmatrix6174 nup I don’t see it, I’m currently rewatching through the series and everytime angels on with buffy it feels like it just drags. Plot wise it’s fine but when they add the romance element into it it’s like please just kill him already
my personal head canon is that everyone including buffy was completely oblivious to faith having the hots for her except angel, who 100% understands what’s happening but is too polite to say anything.
i mean come on, “i’ll keep her warm for you big guy”?? angel definitely knew what’s up 😂
This is amazing 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah Angel knew Faith was probably bi and into his girlfriend
Buffy came out as lesbian in the Dark Horse comics with the asain slayer.
@@AzguardMike thanks for spoiling us
@@AzguardMike She would be more of a bisexual, given her past feelings/relationships with men. So, bisexual (or even pansexual) just like Willlow, despite what they kept repeating. Willow is bi.
if this is a netflix show now they would end up together
And then the show would be promptly cancelled the season after.
are they not together in the original thing??😭 if they are then where can i watch that pleaseeeeeeeeee
@@sarahnajjar1971 ah ok😐 thanks tho!!!
@@random-ft4mf there is a queer representation tho! Willow, her best friend, is gay or bi
@@random-ft4mf this show had the first ever long running wholesome lesbian relationship in TV between main characters! And the first ever lesbian kiss on network TV :) Buffy the vampire slayer. It’s available on Disney plus and Amazon prime.
Fun fact: the kiss on the forehead was supposed to be stealing a kiss on the lips but was disapproved before shooting.
Really ?
totally unrelated but who disproved it so I can know who my mortal enemy is?
@@reivu Probably the network themselves. Remember this aired when the "Moral Majority" was a huge thing in politics in the 90s.
@@reivu Lesbian kisses in this show only happened after it switched networks.
A kiss on the forehead is a display of "true" love, the same kind that a parent has for their kids. It's actually more romantic than a kiss on the lips imo which could be solely out of lust with no love being involved.
I like the bit in the club where Angel is moodily like "You seemed to be making some friends" and it cuts to a shot centred on Faith, mmhmm yes very heterosexual
You're just reading something that isn't there
@@PeterParker-ff7ub me when i’m lying
Ik. He seemed jealous
Also when buffy kisses faith in the hospital bed 🥺
LOL HOW DID I FORGET THAT😂
a buffy faith relationship would have been so much better than the faith goes evil story line
Agreed
I viewed the failed attempt at a Faith/Buffy relationship as part of the reason Faith is able to turn evil later on, instead of being brought back into the fold.
faith’s little pout after “we’re just good friends”
Always liked Faith.
She should have got a spin off after Buffy ended.
She did! But it was a Dark Horse comics, where she shares the title of protagonist with Angel.
I've heard that she could have made a Faith show, but she chose to do Tru Calling instead. Not sure if that's accurate or not.
@@UTU49 it is
@@selenagomezacapella
Maybe she should have made the Faith show. Tru Calling was okay, but a Faith show might well have been more successful.
@@UTU49 - Here's Eliza's own words "I just personally felt like... It would have been a really hard thing to do, and not that I wouldn't have been up for a challenge, but with it coming on immediately following the show, I think that those would have been really big boots to fill. I think it would have been compared to Buffy. And just in terms of me, I've played that character on and off for five years now and I've changed a lot and while the character of Faith changed when I came back because I've changed, I felt like maybe it was time to... I mean, I love Faith. She's my girl and she's been really good to me, but I kind of just wanted to try something else."
"You tried to gut me blondie" 😆 love faith, the subtext was strong!
Am I gay ? Yes. Do I simp for faith? 100%
don't forget: "you're not getting tired, are you? i was just starting to feel it"
if it was a man and a women it would be a thing let's not lie
this show had the first ever long running wholesome lesbian relationship in TV between main characters! And the first ever lesbian kiss on network TV :) Buffy the vampire slayer. It’s available on Disney plus and Amazon prime.
@@calistusjay60 thank you
1:19 was filled with so much I wanna be yours energy and I'm so here for it.
I wish they made another show like this. Funny, but with serious plot lines and themes that got you involved and that you could relate to. Goofy, but with great characters that you grew attached to and cared about. Seemingly detached from reality, but with stakes that felt real and kept you invested.
Have you ever seen/heard of wynonna earp? It's very buffy like but western
Try Veronica Mars
I love seeing Buffy/Faith early season three before the rift between them they have such great chemistry. Faith’s story was great but I almost wish they would have stayed friends the whole show. Totally see the sexual tension on faiths side esp too but even platonically they are such a great duo.
Yes wish they stayed friends
Yea, I'm still heartbroken that the mayor (was it?) successfully manipulated faith into believing everyone's against her. Yea, the others were kinda assholish towards Faith at times, but Buffy really tried to be on her side. Stupid mayor...
1:45 long and still a better love story than Twilight
That dance scene in bad girls awakened some feelings in 9 year old me. Of course I then repressed those feelings for 10 years but let's not talk about that
Lmao same I realised later in life that Faith was totally my gay awakening at 8 and that’s why I insisted on dressing up as her for my fancy dress birthday that year lol... Just something about her I was really into 😅❤️
This show has made me realise I'm panro and given me 80% of my personality and 100% of my kinks lol. It's also the reason why I learnt English.
@@cayteedawson8049 haha I think Faith awakened a lot of us back then
I'll never stop shipping them
I reckon that these two are the definition of “I kissed a girl and I liked it and I hope my boyfriend don’t mind it” 😂
When you remember Xander canonically got with Faith while Buffy never did.....
two people who wanted her but could never have her 😳
literally faith is the reason i new I was a lesbian - I like repeatedly watched bad girls again and again because of the part where she drew the heart on the window. 11 year old me didn't know what was coming
Buffy sleeps with a woman in the comics, which are a canon continuation of the series, so... this makes the lack of Fuffy all the more disappointing. :/ It could've been so great.
There's some amazing fanfic out there though
@@CarrotFlowers421 Facts, but fanfiction can be written with or without canon. They just dropped the ball on this pairing not being canon.
@@gissellecruz3439 agreed
Dark Horse comics, she comes out as gay with the asian/japaneese slayer.
Watching these all together now makes me notice some similarities between Faith and Angelus. Especially the scene where she tells Buffy she's not ready to kill her yet. Absolutely incredible
Hxxxxx💏💏💏💟
love my😴😴💕👍👋
Fun Fact: This scene 0:49 of Buffy and Faith dancing at Bronze inspired the Rogue and Kitty Pride scene in Xmen Evolution
Rotoscoping. They actually traced it for the animation
Honestly even as Asexual and Aromatic as I am, I can plainly see that Faith is as heterosexual as a single second is long (meaning not at all in any way) and Buffy was basically literally *seduced* by Faith into indulging in the same way Faith did. There is *passion* in that connection between them than Buffy honestly didn't have with anyone (Even Angel, to be honest). None of this is Heterosexual by any means of the imagination, and I am fully convinced that while Faith was obviously and blatantly in love with Buffy (Or if not love at least *deeply* infatuated) in return Faith was the very first girl that made Buffy think: "Well gee, guess I'm not that straight. I learned something new about myself"
Buffy only loved Angel as an idea, and she never really wanted to see Spike as an equal. Faith is just on her level, their relationship is so raw, and they just have a more dynamic chemistry, like I could see both of them learning a lot from a relationship together, it would be more challenging and both would be more likely to grow from it
Wtf the sexual tension! If they remake Buffy they better give Faith the Spike role
It's pretty much in my head-canon that Faith went off the deep-end because Buffy chose Angel over her.
God they're both gorgeous and such icons, Buffy is such an amazing show ahh
They were gay, and we were robbed 😤😤
We weren't robbed if buffy and faith had become involved we wouldn't have had willow and tara and that really would have been a crime
My aunt was really good friends with her female roommate..until they got married and had kids
and they were roommates
Hauahauahaua
I mean, getting married and having kids is just par for the course for totally hetero gal pals!
Had kids? 🤔🤔 They seem to originate from a different dimension 🤷
Hercules, Xena, Buffy and Charmed were my go to shows! God I miss the 90s!
Best era
'dont worry big guy just keeping her warm for ya' WDYM BY WARM FAITH😳😳😏😏🦋🦋
I had such a big crush on faith 😭
The first time I saw the ‘let’s see who lands on top’ clip, I literally had to pause the episode and walk out of the room for a second. I needed some WARNING for that line. 🥵🥵
Wow. This was a lot for me to handle. I’ve never seen the show and now I feel compelled to watch it.
this show had the first ever long running wholesome lesbian relationship in TV between main characters! And the first ever lesbian kiss on network TV :) Buffy the vampire slayer. It’s available on Disney plus and Amazon prime.
@@calistusjay60 and hulu!!
It was even on Facebook Watch, too. (Idk if it still it is, but "ANGEL" was also there, and it had some continued Faith storylines.)
@@calistusjay60 but try to watch the SD Verison. The HD version kind of suck. The color grading is totally off and sometimes you can see the crew or set because it doesn't mean to be in widescreen.
@@katronomikushumukulus6475 Yep
The way this would have been an iconic TV moment if Buffy and Faith hooked up and its not like Buffy is straight she ended up being with a Slayer in the comics
At the time, Willow and Tara were breaking ground as the first gay couple to actually kiss on TV. Still, I adored Faith and always felt she was in love with Buffy. Particularly the whole, "You picked your vampire boyfriend over me?! Fine, I'll just steal him, chain you up, and do dirty, dirty things to him right in front of you," vibe.
Soo gay for them!
I always thought faith was buffys “dark side” like what she doesn’t let herself be, so it makes sense if there’s a little sexual tension there, the dark side of her that seduced her into letting go of inhibitions.
The episode of the body swap was masterful in my opinion. Such a great series ❤️
Faith's hair was the highlight of Season 3.
there's a whole lot of season 7 missing from this video.
Back in the day I never picked up on the gay subtext, I literally just thought Faith had a shtick she just used on everybody to manipulate them. Of course, I also didn't know that Dushku played her as bi with a crush on Buff.
I used to be an idiot, BTW.
Why not both.
I dont think Faith was ever into Buffy like that directly. Sure Faith may be into girls but I think she was just having fun with Buffy for the most part.
@@KrisBryant99I think Duskhu admitted that that was how she played the part: she was into Buffy.
They’re both extremely gorgeous ugh
I’ll say it again and again we were ROBBED of that kiss 😫
That kiss on the head was in the mouth in the original script
Honestly, it's satisfying to find out that ur celebrity girlcrushes have fruity roles. Like literally I watched Bring It On (2000) days ago, had a crush on Missy, saw this vid, and realized I watched this A YEAR AGO
The kiss on the forehead- they were not fooling anyone
"you are a sucker for the inherent erotisism of the enemies to lovers"
That's why Scott thought she was gay.
Omg new headcanon
The sexual tension between them was soooo real! Lol I never understood why the directors played it like that but never gave us gays what we really wanted! Haha. I guess they figured Willow being gay was enough. But they should've had Faith and Buffy hook up at least once! 😄
The writers were toying with making either Xander or Willow gay from the start. That's why there's some gay jokes about Xander in the first couple of seasons (like his scenes with Larry). And then Willows vampire doppelganger being sexual with women. (They say she's gay but she is sexual with men too so it would be more accurate to say she's bi. Which actually translates to Willows character when they say she's gay but she obviously had a very real attraction to Oz and Xander)
When people say have a little faith this is what I think about 0:50
Their dynamic was literally my gay awakening lmao 🙈 I shipped them so hard!
Their chemistry >>>>>>>>
Oh wow this video just changed my perception of the series, I never really thought about a possible true crush of Faith on Buffy but the thing is really interesting ...
The window thing was cute, I'd melt if a woman did that to me
Imagine if they made Buffy gay and not Willow
Technically the comics made Buffy bicurious.
she bangs a asian woman and slags off Angel and Spike, she might as well be waving the pride flag and yelling "im here, im queer!"
0:49 That dance was recreated in X-Men: Evolution between Rogue & Kitty Pryde. Another case of gals being pals?
Eliza have so much lesbian vibes in her
Me watching this entire thing be like: 👁👄👁
Probably the writers saw the rushes and were like "it wasn't supposed to sound like that!"
Holy shit looking back at this as an adult NO WONDER I had a huge crush on Faith lol
Yessssss, in general I thought Elizza was just daaaaaaaaamnnnnn ... that bad girl vibe she carried so well
If this show had more guts before Tara and Willow, Faith would've totally kissed Buffy on her lips in that scene, just like Buffy would've kissed her while she was in a coma.
And I think you know
*SPOILER OF THE COMICS*
Buffy is not straight at all right? In the comics (that we know are regular seasons) she has sex with another slayer.
In the shooting script for Enemies, the one where Angel pretends to have lost his soul to get info from the mayor, Faith is supposed to kiss Buffy on the mouth after Angelus reveals himself to still be Angel. The WB refused for it to happen so they had to switch to the forehead kiss
The scene where they dance is great! Faith is invaluable!
When Faith becomes evil for at least a short time, it breaks my heart! How can you not love this girl, She has nothing wrong with her! In fact, she and Buffy would make a nice couple too - nowhere is it written that she has to be with a man especially if Faith is there!
Yep, just gal pals being regular good old girls, doing the regular girl “stuff”
I hate we never got a fluffy relationship 😩😩😭
I’m gay and now all I want is a Buffy and Faith To be together.
DEFINITELY bicurious vibes from them both, ESPECIALLY Faith 💜
They do make a fantastic couple.
So that’s why I’m gay.
no heterosexual explanation for literally any of this ..
nice woow😴😴😚💕👍
Imagine José wheldon putting Buffy Became bisexual and faith Became lesbian instead Of willow and tara
or imagine ALL of that !
"Jose Wheldon" LMAO!!! Not sure if that was intentional but it was uncontrollably funny.
@@SurvivorBri well sorry i made an big mistake to name him instead of joss
Dark Horse comics - Buffy has come out as a lesbian with an asian slayer
Buffy actually had smex with a girl in the comics, so she's either Queer or bisexual (with a preference with boys ofc)
Love this series
Look, I'm not saying they should've kissed, but they really should've kissed
I read that the "give us a kiss" forehead kiss was originally scripted as kiss on the lips and they changed it. I ship them so hard still so many years later hahah
Buffy comes out as gay in Dark Horse comics
(and calls Angel and Spike a pair of undead rapists)
@@AzguardMike Really ? I thought she was bisexual ? Weird.
Although, that statement doesn't seem like something she'd say. Like, what comic is this where she said this ??
These two had the best fights in the entire show. Not many was on par with them.
ive literally watched this series w a y over 6 times, how have i not considered this....
Always thought Faith was into Buffy, it's funny how the showrunners didn't seem to realise what they'd done, if this was made today they'd make a bigger deal about it.
It's that much sweeter when it's kept subtle/offscreen/implied.
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I think both approaches have benefits. It depends what the story is about
I’m screaming at the dancing 💀
That kiss on the forehead was supposed to be on the lips in the original script. But it was the 90s so they had to change it.
Also when the Mayor/The First appears to Faith in season 7, he talks about how she “always wanted Buffy to respect you, to love you even”. Another implication I think.
Lol imagine if this were remade, you would even have a lesbian porn like scene
Good lord Eliza is beautiful
The funniest part of this video was when faith drew the heart on the window 🤣
Girls making out
Tv writers: dont worry theyre just super good friends
The actors played it like they were attracted to each other and the writers later said they totally see it. But if you want actual representation, this show had the first ever long running wholesome lesbian relationship in TV between main characters! And the first ever lesbian kiss on network TV :) Buffy the vampire slayer. It’s available on Disney plus and Amazon prime.
The scene where Faith kisses Buffy on the forehead was meant to be a kiss on the lips but the censors wouldn't allow it.
“Give us a kiss”
The pairing we deserved
God no, faith was a very toxic person, it would have been the worst possible representation. Willow and tara were much better.
Buffy's definitely the cupcake of the relationship.
For people that are unaware, Dark Horse Comics had comic series that continued in the show's universe after season 7. They had season 8-11 and in an issue during season 8, Buffy hooked up with another slayer, a Japanese girl. This other slayer was created when every potential's powers were activated at the end of the series, but she didn't appear on the show. So, Buffy from the TV show universe did hook up with another Slayer, just not Faith.