Tuning a snare drum in 60 seconds | Elevation Worship
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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the most unrealistic part is him not searching for his drum key for the first 50 seconds
I literally can't find mine rn ☹️
This is so on-point. I'm a bassist, and I always carry 2 spare instrument cables, 2 sets of guitar strings, a spare guitar strap, 2x 9-volt batteries...and a drum key. Every second or third gig, seems like some moron forgot, broke, or lost their at the gig. 😊 Typically, whomever I bailed out with my "survival kit" gives me their share of the tips.
And the snare stand is open ?
I can literally never find my drum key. Whenever I find it it's always by the kick pedal. Never fails to make me rip the room apart
@@ReidTheRulesGuy i keep mine on my key ring
That is the lowest "high" snare drum I've ever heard.
And the most out of tune "tune" I've ever heard lol.
he had 60s chiiillll
Especially for a skall snare. That's medium at best
My guy never pressed once on the head
If my drum tech saw me tuning my tenors like that back in the day it might’ve been the first and only backhand he ever gave to a student.
As a drummer myself, I reccomend you skip across the drum when you tune it. So, when you tune it, go across and on the first lug pick a direction to go. If you just tune around you can warp the drum head.
and that's why you always start with the reso head, especially on snare drums.
He had the drum kind of in tune there, then he did a few last moment tension adjustments on seemingly random rods, and took it right back way out of tune. You can hear the oscillating high pitched frequencies, similar to a guitar string being tuned after striking a harmonic. I couldn’t make sense of his tuning pattern after his first couple of cycles around the drum, but I wasn’t hearing what he was hearing. Anyway, it’s a good lesson on why you shouldn’t attempt to tune a drum in under a minute, I suppose. Thanks. 👍
I want my 60 secs back please… I think I lost a few brain cells reading the comments also 😂
Yall are too much 😂😂😅
1: his pattern is fine. He moves across the drum and is cranking pretty evenly.
2: pitch matching got very very close considering time constraints.
3: yes, obviously not tuning the bottom head is an L.
4: yes, the snare strands are loose
He did decent for only having 60 seconds. Better than a lot of us would have done with the same time limit.
How many people watched this who never realized that drums could be tuned ?
Wait, your tone it Clockwise w/o alternating opposite lugs? My percussion teacher taught me to tune the opposite lug of the one I just tuned as I rotate around the head.
This is how I tune my vinnie paul pearl lol
Le quedó como las yeas😮😮
The old 13" Pearl Omar Hakim signature. I've got one of those. But I wouldn't have this guy tune it in 60 seconds lol.
The best way is to start with the reso side and crank it… then crank the batter head
Pretty swampy sounding for a 13" drum
He had 60 seconds man
@@joandrumz3176 and it still sounds like shit. Doesn't change fax
Hey buddy is that a pearl African mahogany Omar hakim signature series snare?
How tight to you tighten down the resonating side?
yes, do that for all 12 songs when doing live performance.
make people wait 30 minutes for tuning break after each song.
damn im a guitarist and I didnt even know you had to tune drums
I tune my drums more than my guitarist tunes his guitar...
@@vincentzito3933 oh lord
pro tip here. every non electronic instrument needs tuning.
my pleasure.
Some pro players will tune the whole set to actual notes in whatever key the band mostly plays in. Example- Danny Carey will start with his bass drum and tune it to "D" then continue tuning the rest of the set in the key of D. Not tuning all drums in D but follow the rest of the D scale
@@leeland446 ... I play 60's and 70's Rock. Everything from Hang on Sloopy and I Saw her standing there to Radar Love and zep's Rock and Roll... I tend to tune my snare a little deeper with a nice crack, I like my bass to be a dead deep thump, and I tend to tune my toms a little lower to give me a deep powerful sound. All my toms and bass drum have reso heads.
Is that a Yamaha sonny emory signature?
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Ok, that's halfway, now tune the reso
"Pretty high and crack"
End result: 1970s AL Green low 🥴🥴
you have to draw a cross anytime
This should be titled "How Not To Tune A Drum In 60 Seconds".
What about the bottom?
Our snare drum in the church has hole in it and we just taped it
Does anyone else find it strange that he never even attempted to see or hear the sound of the bottom head???!!
I was always taught to tighten opposite nuts. Like if you tighten 12 o clock, then tighten 6 after, if you tighten 3 o clock, then do 9 after etc etc
Is that rubbish? Btw I’m a drummer but a total amateur when it comes to kit maintenance. It’s a long story but yeah. I can play, but I don’t know the first thing about tuning or I’ve never changed a head or whatever
60 seconds? Ain't nobody got time for that.
where’s the star pattern my guy
Is it tuned though? 🧐
What about the bottom skin?
I still haven't tuned my snare cause no one taught me how so I just throw a towel over it :/
Just crank the reso then crank the batter, hit the edge of the snare on each lug and make sure they all sound high. Tighten your snare tension, get rid of the towel and play that thang.
ONLY FOR A CCM CHURCH SETTING.😊
That was good
Forgot the bottom
Not even doing the cross pattern what is going on💀
That is really far from being "high" or "cracking"
Bro had 60 seconds chilll
chilll yo
5 or 6 turns in each lug and your set for that nice crack.
it’s for worship 🤷🏼♂️
@@pouchairsoft good point actually
Snare wires sound loose
Hate tuning my snare…. Thats exactly what my snare sounds like until I dampen it with my wallet. It’s poop.
It's how it's supposed to be. You're supposed to use moon jell to dampen it 🤦🏿♂️
@@kingvontheist5436 Moon jell is to dampen overtones. Has nothing to do with the tightness of the snare wires
@@jakefromstatefarm6205 💀 That's why you don't listen to a saxophonist give advice on percussion instruments
Maybe the bottom head aint tight enough too
As a drummer for 26 years, you're going to destroy your heads fast without having a consistent lug altering pattern😅. Strainer needs adjusted. That snare sounds like mud😢
Def got to tighten the strainer. Can't imagine when the amps get plugged in 😢😅😮
I came to the comment section to say the same thing… 😂
Old wives tale, so is the other guy saying you'll "warp the rim and drum". This is only true when switching heads and its only to make tuning easier, so is pushing hard with both hands to break up a brand new bead while doing it. If you go to any good studio or watch any road-weathered tech, once general tension is attained, you tune each lug to each other, you won't be doing the star pattern. A studio will sometimes go clockwise with a small keyboard and tone match. Also haven't seen anyone mention tuning the reso head as important. Anyone know without Googling if or when you tune the reso head higher, lower, or identical to the batter head? Surely all these experts do....
@@doublesynchrohelix8613 for snares you crank the reso head so that you get a good snare response. Batter head on snares you can tune to whatever tuning you like it. For toms, I like it simple with matching batter and reso for frequencies. It’s sounds too good to be true but it works haha. I generally tune batter and then reso for toms.
You don’t play enough if your heads are wearing out faster strictly to lug pattern
I'm convinced 90% of the people in the comment section have never been within 5 feet of a drum.
Why?
Yah he just needs to tighten the snair chain a little bit
I'm convinced if you knew anything about tuning drums you would know this is completely the wrong approach and it's still sounded like garbage. That tune job would last through half a song. But you would know that if you had been within 5 feet of a drum
@D Reichert I said this because people are saying things like "I didn't know you needed to tune drums" or something stupid like "now do that between songs". Of course I know how tuning a drum works, I mess around with my snare all the time.
@D Reichert Also yes I know this wasn't a good approach. It sounded alright to me, but sound is subjective.
I believe in tuning my drums like lug nuts on a tire. Opposites so the head stretches evenly. Just my 2 cents
That’s How I learned it’s supposed to be… if they learned from a music teacher. I’m sure this method works ok in a pinch but opposite sides for most accurate tuning
I came here to say that
If the head doesn't 'stretch evenly' it won't be in tune
I was taught this not only to keep the head evenly tensioned, but also spread the forces out evenly amongst the lugs/shell.
@@jBun12 this. Shell and rim can warp slightly for uneven pressure around the head. The head stretching evenly is barely an issue
This is the type of video that causes the audience to be confused
When you trigger everything, it doesn't matter how it is tuned.
It definitely still does
Lol not true, head tension plays a massive part in rebound
entirely untrue
It wouldn’t, except elevation doesn’t trigger anything.
@@Crazymelvis that is 100% false they absolutely do lol
Didn’t test bottom head pitch first, okay. That would have been my first step.
this is the millenial version of doing it.
I keep my dad's(who has passed) drum key on my keychain because why not.
I keep a drum key on my key chain as well. If I'm at a gig i'll have my keys with me so its guaranteed ill have a drum key with me too
Ah yes, I also disregard everything except slightly tightening the batter head when tuning a snare.
Snarewire? No, never been there.
@@Druid_Plow the bottom head tension can be ignored. It is only there for aesthetics.
@@lentzintl yeah you actually don’t even need a bottom snare head
Easy
@@Druid_Plowu still use one of those?
Psssst, scrap this and redo. That was awful.
Bro have you even been near a snare drum or heard it? He only had 60 seconds and he did a pretty good job. Chill
@@jjjjjjjj852 he just made it sound the same just different pitch 😂
@@FlankinspanK still 60 seconds to tuning a snare drum, that is much harder than tuning a guitar or bass (for example)
@@jjjjjjjj852 60 seconds or not, it’s still a terrible example of how to tune a drum.
@Pete I know. For context, I have played drums for 4 years and guitar for 1 year. Yes, it is a sloppy way of how to do it. Yes, it will get out of tune very fast, but it does sound sorta accurate to an actual snare drum. I know that you should start at the bottom, all the way to the top. It's just that I have rarely seen a drum being tuned as they don't really get out of tune that much.
⭐️ please don’t tune around lugs randomly 😒
Since a star patterns so hard
Lars would stopped by the first five seconds for St. Anger
Just throwing it out there, I’m never gonna get this guy to tune any of my kits, let alone any of my snares
You’re not done yet
Here’s a real simple way, bottom head table top tight, top head tighten it to feel. Swear it sounds good every time
TF is table top tight?
How tight should the bottom head be? If you were to measure it by full turns.
I always start with the bottom head. Table top tight, snare wires loose and then the top head start from finger tight and evenly come up till it suits the song. With the bottom head super tight and snare wires loose, the top head will sound good no matter what.
Finally!!
You are absolutely right. This yt short is just bs
I’ve never knew you can tune a drum 😮 Cool to know
Keep going bruh, give us that St. Anger sound!
Truly amazing what more a percussionist can learn about the instruments besides the music.
I think he should tune the bottom head and also tighten the snare wires a lot
this was the most elevation worship video i may have ever seen
Please elaborate?
@@Jonathan-md7rb he doesn’t have to, he is absolutely correct
The bottom head and snare tension is as important…at least another 20 seconds needed.
bottom head is honestly more important so id say at least another 2 minutes for that. Then the snare wires need tightened too so add another 15 seconds and because this is a quick job it definitely needs some sort of moon gel or a wallet
Goes in circle instead of star
Trash
That was way more than 60 seconds. Good luck next time. I can do it faster with my mouth shut 😊
It works for 60 seconds.
That's about as long as that tune will hold
What about the resonant bottom head
Funny story, I'll get it close without even hitting it with a stick
I'll tune it close by sense of smell
Then I'll employ the stick for the fine tuning
This is so funny
What I would do is just crank every lug as high as possible
Bro is destroying the head with his tightening pattern
This is not how proper tuning looks like, just smacking it while making such large turns(yes even a quarter turn is aloot)
he has less than 1 minute to tune it. that is the entire reason the video exists
@@Coastfog idk what ur problem is. just bc he could be doing it better means he shouldnt be posting it online. also (atheist speaking here) what does the worship band thing have to do in this instance of his ability. religion is not even related to content in the video. people who make fun of religion in a context that is barely related to it are so fucking annoying. you people see someone do something theyre proud of and just say "absolutley not"
my entire comment was just saying that this person was making comments that were indeed true but there was time constraints.
The final product sucked. Can’t do it that fast, sorry.
U need to tighten in a star pattern like a car tire or it will go outa tune after one song
Didn't even bother with the bottom head. 🤦♂️
This guy’s trolling all of you. He’s a bassist
This is a good way to warp a new head. You should also be tightening the lugs by going across, not in a circle.
That is not how to tune your drums.
you turned it from crap to wtf ?
Goal not accomplished
Alright.. give my man another 60 on the clock
The lugs didn’t sound in tune to each other to me. Maybe that’s why as a guitar alway found it hard to tune drums. I guess there’s more tolerance in the pitch
me not being able to hear the difference but going yup, yup, that's how you do it
You don't hear the pitch getting higher as he tightens the lugs?
@@gdawgs101 as a whole yes as the head gets tighter but I don't hear the difference lug to lug, I'm just broken that way
@@Good-Enuff-Garage Fair. I'm a musician, so I guess I'm just especially sensitive to small differences in pitch
@@gdawgs101 yeah, you are lucky I actually started out on keyboard then went to bass guitar than to drums, and had a doctor test my hearing cause I thought I was tone def and he goes ha ha you have perfect hearing you just don't have the talent of hearing perfect pitch, I had a friend in high school who would figure out theme songs to his favorite shows on a piano having zero formal training he had such a good ear and I would test him and try to trick him on what keys I would hit and he would guess them right every time
Dude tighten the strainer
No good man seriously
doesnt sound that good bro . kinda wonky bro.oh well its quik views :) the snare beds need work but not in 60 secs
My technique is crank the snare head and I can then put the batter head at any tension I want. The next thing is making sure the snare wires aren’t too tight.
That's the Omar Hakim signature snare......I know....I have 1....✊🏾💯💯💯💯💯💯🤎🤎🤎🤎
Cross-tuning is the most effective way to tune a drum.
Loosen ALL THE WAY. Then, hand-tighten, until you can't simply loosen the lug by hand. Then two turns of the keys each time (across from each other) as you go around the drum. Minor adjustments will be needed. 1/4, 1/2 turns. It's not rocket science. But, this guy couldn't tuna fish.
First step really is crank the bottom head. That’s always step 1
By crank, how many full turns would you suggest? If I wanted more of a mid to deep sounding snare drum.
@@frankkortez3569 I don’t really measure by amount of turns, but it even for a deep sounding snare you want the bottom to be pretty tight. The head should never stretch far enough to the point that the bearing edge is beyond the hoop obviously. But the bottom head should definitely be tight tight.
I think the approach of “This is a smaller drum so it probably needs to be high” is not a right approach. That (as I’ve seen and experienced) is a very “Worship/CCM” way to look at it: shallow=cranked & deep=fat. Now here’s the thing, if he only said that for the sake of the little experiment, meh, but if he lives by that, I’m genuinely sorry for the dude and the limiting way he thinks about it, if he TRULY stands by his words. Now again, if he only said it just to say it for the sake of whatever, meh, in my opinion he should choose his words carefully to not influence up and coming drummers that might not know better.
😢He had no type of ryhm or reason behind how he tuning ....skipped one lug a few times.... SMH.... snare didn't sound good. All, take time to tune yo stuff correctly, not like my man Remo Evans here😅...and that looked like an Omar snare....shame on ya😂... but that's the way you do it when you only have 60 seconds 🎉
Everybody in the comments complaining about how he tuned that snare and saying he tuned it wrong and I'm over here recalling the many different methods I've seen and learned for tuning snares and drums in general and thinking to myself, isn't music, a sub genre of art, all subjective anyway? Meaning there's no right or wrong way? Yea, some music is more pleasing to the ears, like zeppelin, Beatles. Eagles, doors, Joplin, skynyrd an Hendrix. Pretty much anything from 60s to late 70s, some 80s wrapping up in the 90s, and so on whilst other music isn't so pleasing to the ears like grunge. Modern pop/rock throwing rap in there as well... now, I'll set back and watch as the majority of you tell me I'm wrong. Whilst simultaneously telling dude in the video he's wrong.. 🤷🏽
Everyone trying to be 1st with their drums 101 education of opposite lug tightening 😂 Guess what... that matters when switching heads, so does pushing hard in the center to break in a new head while doing it... But Mr. "been playing for 26 years" and everyone else... go to a studio or watch a famous drummer's tech at a show, when you tune lugs to each other you won't be alternating.
Smaller drum should be tuned high? Why? What's the standard? Doesn't every drum have a range of sounds at different tensions? When tensioning an instrument, the whole function of which is to produce a useful, compelling sound, why introduce the constraint of a 60sec time limit? This is a dumb video. It answers questions that nobody asked.
Im sure all these expert commentors know (without Google's help) if or when you tune the reso head and if you match identical or when you would want to go higher or lower than the batter head...? Also surprised to see how many folks think you fine tune a snare "alternating lugs" (which drummers call star pattern, apparently that's not learned yet either, and that pattern is used replacing heads only) And apparently the majority didn't know you're supposed to tune lugs to each other, which you would never attain via the star... The best part of comment sections to me is know-it-alls that are completely wrong, lol... seriously I enjoy it.
I play guitar so I got somewhat of an ear but I never knew what it meant to tune a drum. But now I know and I am surprised that I understood just by watching this vid 😂
Ok be so Fr he know what to do but that execution was 👎. I know he had 60 seconds but I personally think he should’ve tuned it higher. Anddd he didn’t touch the bottom head nor did he really make sure it was in tune with itself. He just made sure it was close enough which isn’t really that close. But for 60 seconds what can ya do
Try DrumTun Pro... you weren't even close. Sorry... science has been applied to drum tuning. The old school twist the tension rods till it "sounds good" is old school. Such old school methods have no repeatability or precision.
Most unrealistic tuning video I've ever seen 🤦. Been playing drums since I was 8 years old BTW I'm 40 now..
No.
The secret is in the bottom head 💯💯💯