Lift looks great Donald. You shouldn't see a change in gas mileage with a lift... now getting larger diameter tires is a whole new topic. Thanks for the video
I have a Navara 2.5 diesel 4x4. I had a 2" lift fitted and with 285 - 75 - 16" tyres it's very capable. I live in South Africa where we have a lot of rough trails. It's by no means a rock crawler, but very capable as a overland truck.
Your skidplates are showing ;) I would love it if you make time a few months down the road to report back on the suspension lift. Your videos almost always give me much food for thought - especially the overlanding/camping and multi day excursions.
Really glad that you’re happy with the up grades to your truck it certainly looks like it ride more smoothly from the reduced camera vibration. It a pity the roads keep getting closed but hopefully it will allow you to discover some different routes
The efficacy of the lift is succinctly demonstrated by the strategically filmed before and after footages of the lift. Well done, Sir. Best laid plans and all that. ;) For real though, 2" lifts make a huge difference. She looks great!
Good evening Donald your truck looks amazing with the new lift one thing that might be a nice add-on it’s is rock silder from Hard core off road there a nice weld together kit that is easy to fab together and make a nice step to get in your vehicle and stuff off the roof rack to check it out when you can and shout out to all dogs off-road for supporting your channel
My 04 Tundra came stock with those same Bilstein 4600 series shocks. I also have done a 2" lift and replaced the.Bilstein 4600's with Bilstein 5100's. It made such a massive improvement in ride quality!
Now 2 inch body lift, bigger tyres and you're golden. The suspension lift only helps with approach angles. It's not a bad idea to go wider as you go higher with the vehicle. Finally someone who sees the road in front of them 😁
I have to agree with your comments on Koni shocks…I replaced the factory shocks on my 1964 VW Westfalia with Konis back in 1968 and they made a huge difference in the drivability. A huge handling improvement. Used to drive the logging roads around RippleBrook Oregon.
She’s coming along nicely Donald. There’s many good feelings in life, though the ones you have with your vehicle being dialled in to your perfection is a pretty nice one. Cheers.🇦🇺
@@natesv04 Yeah I'm hearing different things about the 9 speed. Some say it has unpredictable shift behaviors. And in some cases not the smoothest experience when comparing to the old school 5 speed. Even saw a new class action involving the 20-21's. I considered trading in my 19 but I had some pause about the new drive train. Plus the seats are lower and they took out the tilt and 8 way power on driver side. I felt its not as comfortable as my 19. They also took out power seat on passenger which was surprising. Allot of reported glitches on the new head unit with freezing screens and issues with car play/android auto etc.. Also they completely knackered the cruise control. I don't see it as reliable as the old old one that it replaced.
Good choice. I installed Koni Heavy Track dampers and springs on my Dacia Duster 4WD. Gained ground clearance, load capacity and still have a better ride. Hope, you will be as satisfied as I am in long term tests.
Hey Donald something else I noticed with your new suspension install is your dash mounted gadgets don’t shake as intensely as before 👍🏼 Much enjoy your videos!
Glad you got your lift kit. It looks great! I know you will enjoy it. Looking forward to more videos of your trips with your smooth riding truck. Enjoyed the video. Take care and be safe.
awsome upgrade, youre gonna love it every time youre out. Have you thought about trimmimg the leaf spring bolts? they look like a hang up spot sticking down so far. I feel your pain with all the road closures on public land...I hated that so much when i lived in Oregon.
I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I was looking at that kit for my Fronty and they offer a u-bolt flip kit for $80. By itself, it's usually $100. I think if I do this kit I'll opt for flipping the ubolts and probably even upgrading to the ADO UCA's for future flexibility. But we'll see what the wallet says when it's time to make the buy. Probably next year or so.
I think what’s really important here is how the truck feels about the lifts. Some trucks gather more self-confidence, and they feel more competitive. And they certainly feel more attractive to trucks of the opposite sex.
With a lift like this the ground clearance doesn't change. The approach/departure angles get better but the diff is still at the same height from the ground. Going from 31" to 33" tires will increase ground clearance by 1". Regardless, body sits higher and that will help most obstacles in the field.
HEY!! Like that xou keep overlanding simple. Truly. CONCERNS. The leaf spring U bolts need to be cut down to about a 1/4" from the nut. They are vulnerable to getting bent by obstacles and besides messing up ground clearance they may be un-removable if bent. Also, unless I missed it, I didn't see anything about alignment. It's an absolute must. Always enjoy your videos and commentary.
Definitely going to look into the u-bolts. It didn’t occur to me to mention the alignment, it’s a given. My alignment shop had zero trouble getting this dialed in. 👍🏻
Donald, it's time to give your truck a name, since Jason likes to make fun of your unit. So with that said I think you should call your truck...."Truck Norris"! LOL great video man.
Re ubolts, Put an extra nut on the thread and then cut the surplus off, As over time you will hit the exposed thread, or it will be full of rust / dirt when next you need to remove. If you can get a longer than normal nut even better still> I run double nuts on all teh exposed bolt ends on my Samaurai, saves a lot of work.. Cheers and keep at it...
Did you use BFG's ko2's. Those are heavy because of the thick sidewall protection. I'd only choose that if I truly offroaded in rocky terrain where tire punctures are more prevalent.
Perfect Donald! Looks legit now :) that is how to properly do it, use the truck/car in stock form and then decide what to upgrade. That's how I did with my AWD key-car.
Your truck is looking great! That muddy road looked gnarly. I love exploring the coast range but have never ventured down to the Eugene area. Great video!
Next time you are near Grants Pass stop at Wheelers Off Road, they may have some off road bump stops that would fit. They can really improve the ride of the truck. Maybe do a U-bolt flip while you're at it. I think the 2" lift with 33's is the sweet spot.
I remember back in the day. I had a 93 Ford Ranger. I put bigger wheels and tires on it. I noticed the engine ran cooler cause more air was getting under the truck.
Great review! I got and put on the ADO kit on my R51/2010 Pathfinder recently, however at the time I chose the Bilstein kit, as my drives are mostly paved/asphalt roads, highway use; about a 95/5 split with any backcountry type driving. However, after your review, I suspect maybe the Koni kit would have been a more versatile choice, seeing as your encounter with the Koni kit on paved highways to still be better than the stock suspension. Wishing you fun through your adventures! Cheers!
On good highways there’s not a noticeable improvement over the Bilsteins, it’s only on rough paved roads (and speed bumps in town) where I feel a difference…my Frontier was very well-mannered on the highway with its original suspension. And from what I’ve gathered, even the Bilstein 5100s are also an improvement over the Bilstein 4600s that come from the factory on the Frontier Pro4x. With 95% pavement driving it sounds like your kit is a good match to your needs.
The other way to look at this is the lower bed makes it easier to load things. I will put about 20 bags of pellets in the bed about 5 times a year. You raise that bed 2 inches and that makes that job allot more difficult. The lift is mainly to increase your approach/departure angle. The little bit of clearance increase is mainly from the larger tire. In short, most do the lifts for looks more then anything else. This poster actually is in that small percentage group that benefits from the newer mods. Most will stay on tar sealed roads and like he says, the bilsteins 4600 provide an almost identical ride.
Looks good. I'm still waiting on my shell and the extra weight that'll be going aboard after said shell is on before I do any suspension work. Plus the Bilsteins I want are OOS until forever... :(
When I looked up the stock tire for a 2011 frontier Pro-4x it says it is 265 75 16 which is equivalent to 31.65" and 286 75 16 is equivalent to 32.83. I only see a ~.5" gain of tire height here. I am researching lift and tire options for my 2018 Pro-4x.
Love the video! I’m considering this kit for my N50 Xterra. After a year of using the ADO lift with Koni’s, do you have any more feedback, or any issues with it? Thanks!
Yes, there is just enough clearance with the stock UCAs. It definitely wouldn't hurt to upgrade to Alldogs' UCAs, but I've been okay so far without them.
Great video. I'm a 2010 4x4 Frontier owner. My only concern would be the gap in the rear leaf spring. It seems like gravel and debris may be an issue for me. Some kind of (loose fitting) wrap maybe?
looks good, think about relocating that spare tire, I have an xterra off road and the spare tire trapped a lot of moisture above it over the years and rusted pretty bad, or at least treat with rust prevention in that area really well
Absolutely! Of course if he sticks with a tall skinny it might not be too bad. I had some 305/70/R16 Falken Wild Peak AT3s on my Fronty and man it ate the gas. The mileage went from 17 to 19mpgs on a 265/75 down to 12 to 14🤪 of course my truck also has 368,000 miles on it so it's a little long in the tooth lol. I actually pulled the 305s off and put a mild 285/75 Hancook AT tire on because I drive so much for work and the mileage crept back up to 15 to 17mpgs.
Maybe it is the camera angle, but in your before and after photos, the front wheel well appears to be close to the rear of the front tire. Is it? Any rubbing? Will you need to modify further to account for 33’s in the future? Great vid!
It’s probably camera angle and how the wheels are turned. Plenty if clearance and I don’t *think* I’ll need to trim anything to fit 33s. Of course we all know I never hesitate to start cutting on my vehicles if needed. 😆
Nice review, very comprehensive. Truck looks great and I am sure performs much better. Few questions for you: Will the parabolic springs carry a constant load better than a larger leaf pack? The U bolts seem to protrude quite far, do you anticipate them possibly getting hung up? (U bolt flip kit?) What is the story with the skid plate up front? ADO is one of the few who cater to our Frontier, kudos to them. Looking forward to seeing your new suspension perform in future episodes. Keep up the great work.
In my initial conversations with ADO, when they found out that I keep my camp build in place full time (vs unloading, driving around town empty etc) they felt the parabolic was better suited than doing an add-a-leaf. If I understand correctly, the parabolic needs a pretty good load on it and may not be the right choice for someone who uses their truck more traditionally, eg empty most of the time but occasional heavy loads. The ASFIR front skid plate is designed to bolt up to and support the stock front bumper - which obviously I don’t have. Since shooting this video, I have modified the mounting bracket and the plate itself to better fit my configuration. Looks much better now, and you’ll see it soon on IG and upcoming videos. 👍🏻 Edit: oh, the u-bolts. Yeah, I’ll ask about that. They do stick out quite a ways. Maybe I can cut them off.
Hey Donald! I like everything you have done to your truck, it looks amazing! I would like to know if you included the 1/2" spacer in the front? I am trying to get an idea what the extra spacer up front will do and if I will need it.
With the lift kit that you installed from Alldogs Offroad, did you need to add after market upper control arms as well? Also, is it safe to say that the lift kit gave you move of a factory rake kind of stance instead of a leveled stance? I just bought a 2014 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x and would love to lift it, but I want to keep the factory rake so I can throw a canopy and tent on the box, as apposed to the truck looking leveled. Love your truck and set up by the way, sweet rig!
I am still running the stock UCAs and (as far as I know) have not had an issue. While it's not a bad idea to replace the UCAs while you're at it (which Alldogs does also make for the Frontier), with this particular combination of springs & shocks, apparently there is juuuuust enough clearance in there. The way the rear sits will depend on what rear spring option you go for. The parabolics we decided to go with on my truck are designed to carry a load full time. Without weight in the rear, yes, my truck sits quite raked. Even with the topper build seen in this video, it was still underloaded and sitting raked. If you take a peek at my more recent videos, you'll see the current version of my rig now includes a different camper, a heavier interior buildout, and I've added an offroad bumper/swingout which is carrying my extra fuel, propane, and other items. Only when fully loaded with all 10 gallons of extra fuel, a week's worth of water and all my gear for a weeklong trip, does the truck finally sit pretty close to level. Talking directly with the guys at Alldogs would be the best thing to do before making a decision. They know Frontiers in and out and can help you figure out the configuration of components that makes the most sense for how you use your truck and what you want to achieve. Congrats on the Frontier, and good luck!
Hey! Great upload, thanks. When I first got my 2010 Frontier, I paid to have a spacer lift + level kit put on it. A week later, I paid to have that kit taken off! Alignment was gnar, fuel economy went down, and it just felt cheap and nasty … Now, you’ve got me thinking! Any of the aforementioned issues with the alldogs’ kit you’ve installed? TIA.
Zero impact on MPGs. With the new adjustable camber bolts, my alignment shop had no problem dialing it in…in fact he was skeptical going into it and was surprised how easily he got it aligned. Zero regrets here. 👍🏻
What do you think of the Asfir skid plates? I've looked at them for my truck and like the design but the international shipping wipes out any $ savings vs some of the big name/big dollar domestic companies.
they are comparable in price to Hefty Fab's aluminum skid package. I've used mine in rocky stuff and they've taken quite a few decent hits. nothing is out of whack yet.
Yes, didn’t occur to me to mention the alignment because that’s just a given. My alignment shop was able to dial it right in very easily (they could never get the Forester 100% dialed in). I miss how nimble the Forester was on narrow trails and being able to turn around virtually anywhere at anytime, but that’s about it. I took a small hit to MPG moving to the pickup but the Forester already wasn’t getting fabulous mileage with its mods, so it wasn’t a huge difference. What I’ve gained has proven well worth it. I loved that Forester but for overland trips, I am much much happier in the Frontier. 🙂
Were you able to use stock upper control arms I am trying to lift 2 in. on my 17 p4x and can’t get an answer I really don’t want to change upper control arms but am afraid they may make coil bucket contact
Stock UCAs, yes. It has been fine. Can’t hurt to upgrade the UCAs while you’ve got everything taken apart, but I have not perceived any problem staying stock.
In this video, the truck has the stock rims (16") and stock Pro-4x tire size (265/75R16...~31"). If you look at more recent videos, you will see that I'm now running larger tires (285/75/R16...~33") on AllDogs Offroad's 16" Frontier/Xterra rims.
Lift looks great Donald. You shouldn't see a change in gas mileage with a lift... now getting larger diameter tires is a whole new topic. Thanks for the video
I have a Navara 2.5 diesel 4x4. I had a 2" lift fitted and with 285 - 75 - 16" tyres it's very capable. I live in South Africa where we have a lot of rough trails. It's by no means a rock crawler, but very capable as a overland truck.
Your skidplates are showing ;) I would love it if you make time a few months down the road to report back on the suspension lift. Your videos almost always give me much food for thought - especially the overlanding/camping and multi day excursions.
Really glad that you’re happy with the up grades to your truck it certainly looks like it ride more smoothly from the reduced camera vibration. It a pity the roads keep getting closed but hopefully it will allow you to discover some different routes
The efficacy of the lift is succinctly demonstrated by the strategically filmed before and after footages of the lift. Well done, Sir.
Best laid plans and all that. ;)
For real though, 2" lifts make a huge difference. She looks great!
Good evening Donald your truck looks amazing with the new lift one thing that might be a nice add-on it’s is rock silder from Hard core off road there a nice weld together kit that is easy to fab together and make a nice step to get in your vehicle and stuff off the roof rack to check it out when you can and shout out to all dogs off-road for supporting your channel
Your approach to mods is spot on. Use experience to determine what needs done.
Congrats Donald! This is awesome!! 2" will serve you very well!
props!
My 04 Tundra came stock with those same Bilstein 4600 series shocks. I also have done a 2" lift and replaced the.Bilstein 4600's with Bilstein 5100's. It made such a massive improvement in ride quality!
Thanks to Aaron for using a torque wrench instead of over tightening everything with that impact wrench like a maniac!
New tires will be the biggest difference in clearance. Can't wait to see what direction you go. Thanks for your content.
Now 2 inch body lift, bigger tyres and you're golden. The suspension lift only helps with approach angles. It's not a bad idea to go wider as you go higher with the vehicle.
Finally someone who sees the road in front of them 😁
I have to agree with your comments on Koni shocks…I replaced the factory shocks on my 1964 VW Westfalia with Konis back in 1968 and they made a huge difference in the drivability. A huge handling improvement. Used to drive the logging roads around RippleBrook Oregon.
She’s coming along nicely Donald. There’s many good feelings in life, though the ones you have with your vehicle being dialled in to your perfection is a pretty nice one. Cheers.🇦🇺
your truck is so beautifully and tastefully done. just the right mods. i'm definitely looking into this setup for my 22 sv 4x4. thanks for the video.
Truck looks really great with the lift. Glad your happy with the results. Enjoy your channel very much please keep the videos coming. Safe travels.
"even 2 inches makes a very noticeable difference..." That's what she said
The only thing I've ever heard her. Say is ......"Oh my God" 😏
“2 inches can still pack a punch” - he said
You made spit my coffee 😭
2 inches may not hit the bottom but you can beat the shit out of the sides lol
Great to hear your impressions of this setup, it has confirmed that this is the suspension I will be changing to in the future
The new frontier looks really good, i think nissan really hit the nail on the head with the update!
Too bad they took the manual transmission away, was gonna buy one
@@natesv04 Yeah I'm hearing different things about the 9 speed. Some say it has unpredictable shift behaviors. And in some cases not the smoothest experience when comparing to the old school 5 speed. Even saw a new class action involving the 20-21's. I considered trading in my 19 but I had some pause about the new drive train. Plus the seats are lower and they took out the tilt and 8 way power on driver side. I felt its not as comfortable as my 19. They also took out power seat on passenger which was surprising. Allot of reported glitches on the new head unit with freezing screens and issues with car play/android auto etc.. Also they completely knackered the cruise control. I don't see it as reliable as the old old one that it replaced.
. NO MANUAL TRANSMISSION = NO DEAL
Good choice. I installed Koni Heavy Track dampers and springs on my Dacia Duster 4WD. Gained ground clearance, load capacity and still have a better ride.
Hope, you will be as satisfied as I am in long term tests.
Hey Donald something else I noticed with your new suspension install is your dash mounted gadgets don’t shake as intensely as before 👍🏼 Much enjoy your videos!
What a great upgrade! This will give you so much more capability. Congrats!
Looks great! That little truck has come a long way since you first got it! I love everything you’ve done to it. 2” makes a huge difference.
Glad you got your lift kit. It looks great! I know you will enjoy it. Looking forward to more videos of your trips with your smooth riding truck. Enjoyed the video. Take care and be safe.
Thanks Frank!
awsome upgrade, youre gonna love it every time youre out. Have you thought about trimmimg the leaf spring bolts? they look like a hang up spot sticking down so far. I feel your pain with all
the road closures on public land...I hated that so much when i lived in Oregon.
I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I was looking at that kit for my Fronty and they offer a u-bolt flip kit for $80. By itself, it's usually $100. I think if I do this kit I'll opt for flipping the ubolts and probably even upgrading to the ADO UCA's for future flexibility. But we'll see what the wallet says when it's time to make the buy. Probably next year or so.
@@e.c.8668 flip kit sounds like the ticket for sure
I’d have to cut off the excess thread other than that nice upgrade 👍🏻🇬🇧
I think what’s really important here is how the truck feels about the lifts. Some trucks gather more self-confidence, and they feel more competitive. And they certainly feel more attractive to trucks of the opposite sex.
Congratulations Donald, thanks for sharing.
With a lift like this the ground clearance doesn't change. The approach/departure angles get better but the diff is still at the same height from the ground. Going from 31" to 33" tires will increase ground clearance by 1". Regardless, body sits higher and that will help most obstacles in the field.
Yup, I'm glad you commented this as I was going to say the same. I have the ADO rckilla kit on my Frontier and it is exactly as you say.
HEY!! Like that xou keep overlanding simple. Truly.
CONCERNS. The leaf spring U bolts need to be cut down to about a 1/4" from the nut. They are vulnerable to getting bent by obstacles and besides messing up ground clearance they may be un-removable if bent.
Also, unless I missed it, I didn't see anything about alignment. It's an absolute must.
Always enjoy your videos and commentary.
Definitely going to look into the u-bolts. It didn’t occur to me to mention the alignment, it’s a given. My alignment shop had zero trouble getting this dialed in. 👍🏻
Things are looking up. You are definitely reaching new heights with this improvement! 😁
Donald, it's time to give your truck a name, since Jason likes to make fun of your unit. So with that said I think you should call your truck...."Truck Norris"! LOL great video man.
Congrats! Looks so much better
Awesome lift. Looks great. I like the back being slightly taller..it creates an awesome look. I am jealous.
Re ubolts, Put an extra nut on the thread and then cut the surplus off, As over time you will hit the exposed thread, or it will be full of rust / dirt when next you need to remove. If you can get a longer than normal nut even better still> I run double nuts on all teh exposed bolt ends on my Samaurai, saves a lot of work.. Cheers and keep at it...
Your build is looking awesome! See you out on the trails.
Awesome upgrade Donald!
Looking good! Hope to see it in person on one of your trips this year. George.
For sure, hopefully see you out there in a few months!
Donald, I did a 2.5" lift on my Explorer and am also satisfied with it. Ready for 33s as well. The truck looks great. Enjoy!
The looks great Don.
I put 255/85R16 (33x9.5) on my 03 Wrangler. The extra clearance is nice but the extra weight of the tire was noticable.
Did you use BFG's ko2's. Those are heavy because of the thick sidewall protection. I'd only choose that if I truly offroaded in rocky terrain where tire punctures are more prevalent.
The lift looks so good!!
Perfect Donald! Looks legit now :) that is how to properly do it, use the truck/car in stock form and then decide what to upgrade. That's how I did with my AWD key-car.
Love it..it looks great! Can't wait to see more acton videos with weight. Congrats!
Looks good hope you have some great adventures with the upgrades,
Great video and the truck is looking good, much better with a mild lift, can't wait to work with all dogs on my xterra build.
This is going to make me want the Koni's for my Xterra project. I was just going to use 5100's.
The Koni’s ride night and day better than the Bilstein 5100s. Biggest issue right now is we are out of stock on them until June or July at ADO
Your truck is looking great! That muddy road looked gnarly. I love exploring the coast range but have never ventured down to the Eugene area. Great video!
Next time you are near Grants Pass stop at Wheelers Off Road, they may have some off road bump stops that would fit. They can really improve the ride of the truck. Maybe do a U-bolt flip while you're at it. I think the 2" lift with 33's is the sweet spot.
I remember back in the day. I had a 93 Ford Ranger. I put bigger wheels and tires on it. I noticed the engine ran cooler cause more air was getting under the truck.
Great review!
I got and put on the ADO kit on my R51/2010 Pathfinder recently, however at the time I chose the Bilstein kit, as my drives are mostly paved/asphalt roads, highway use; about a 95/5 split with any backcountry type driving. However, after your review, I suspect maybe the Koni kit would have been a more versatile choice, seeing as your encounter with the Koni kit on paved highways to still be better than the stock suspension.
Wishing you fun through your adventures!
Cheers!
On good highways there’s not a noticeable improvement over the Bilsteins, it’s only on rough paved roads (and speed bumps in town) where I feel a difference…my Frontier was very well-mannered on the highway with its original suspension. And from what I’ve gathered, even the Bilstein 5100s are also an improvement over the Bilstein 4600s that come from the factory on the Frontier Pro4x. With 95% pavement driving it sounds like your kit is a good match to your needs.
You will become accustomed to the 2 in. It's like going from my 2x4 to my 4x4. Somehow the mind knows and adjustments are mand!
The other way to look at this is the lower bed makes it easier to load things. I will put about 20 bags of pellets in the bed about 5 times a year. You raise that bed 2 inches and that makes that job allot more difficult. The lift is mainly to increase your approach/departure angle. The little bit of clearance increase is mainly from the larger tire. In short, most do the lifts for looks more then anything else. This poster actually is in that small percentage group that benefits from the newer mods. Most will stay on tar sealed roads and like he says, the bilsteins 4600 provide an almost identical ride.
Truck is looking good Donald..!
Oh man, I loved that trail too :(
Nice upgrade Donald.
Looks outstanding! Great video!
I'm so in between which setup I want. Was gonna go with the RCKilla with bilsteins, but this setup is awesome as well
Great video that was some great info. Truck looks way better!
I noticed through this video, your dash mount accessories shake less. Shows the lift more comfortable to drive on rough roads.
Your truck looks great man
I have a 2in lift on my gx and it's perfect for the geometry and keeps the ride soft so you still have some downtravel.
I'll follow along with you for that!
Larger diameter sway bar might take some of the new side roll away.
KONI of the Netherlands is world leader for shock absorbers.
Im about to get a 2019 frontier sv. I wish i could find a pro 4x but i cant wait to do this to my truck
Perfect setup!
Looks good with the lift.
We were just out there a little bit ago and found that trail blocked off! I was bummed.
Looks good. I'm still waiting on my shell and the extra weight that'll be going aboard after said shell is on before I do any suspension work. Plus the Bilsteins I want are OOS until forever... :(
When I looked up the stock tire for a 2011 frontier Pro-4x it says it is 265 75 16 which is equivalent to 31.65" and 286 75 16 is equivalent to 32.83. I only see a ~.5" gain of tire height here. I am researching lift and tire options for my 2018 Pro-4x.
Love the video! I’m considering this kit for my N50 Xterra. After a year of using the ADO lift with Koni’s, do you have any more feedback, or any issues with it?
Thanks!
Looks great! Well done!
Did you use your factory upper control arms? Or did you buy the ones alldogs recommend?
Yes, there is just enough clearance with the stock UCAs. It definitely wouldn't hurt to upgrade to Alldogs' UCAs, but I've been okay so far without them.
Great video. I'm a 2010 4x4 Frontier owner.
My only concern would be the gap in the rear leaf spring. It seems like gravel and debris may be an issue for me. Some kind of (loose fitting) wrap maybe?
looks good, think about relocating that spare tire, I have an xterra off road and the spare tire trapped a lot of moisture above it over the years and rusted pretty bad, or at least treat with rust prevention in that area really well
Looking good man!
The gas mileage hit usually comes from the increase in tire size. Once you put on the 33’s you will see a drop in mpg’s.
Absolutely! Of course if he sticks with a tall skinny it might not be too bad. I had some 305/70/R16 Falken Wild Peak AT3s on my Fronty and man it ate the gas. The mileage went from 17 to 19mpgs on a 265/75 down to 12 to 14🤪 of course my truck also has 368,000 miles on it so it's a little long in the tooth lol. I actually pulled the 305s off and put a mild 285/75 Hancook AT tire on because I drive so much for work and the mileage crept back up to 15 to 17mpgs.
Maybe it is the camera angle, but in your before and after photos, the front wheel well appears to be close to the rear of the front tire. Is it? Any rubbing? Will you need to modify further to account for 33’s in the future? Great vid!
It’s probably camera angle and how the wheels are turned. Plenty if clearance and I don’t *think* I’ll need to trim anything to fit 33s. Of course we all know I never hesitate to start cutting on my vehicles if needed. 😆
Sold me on this kit for my 23 pro 4x
Nice review, very comprehensive. Truck looks great and I am sure performs much better. Few questions for you:
Will the parabolic springs carry a constant load better than a larger leaf pack?
The U bolts seem to protrude quite far, do you anticipate them possibly getting hung up? (U bolt flip kit?)
What is the story with the skid plate up front?
ADO is one of the few who cater to our Frontier, kudos to them. Looking forward to seeing your new suspension perform in future episodes. Keep up the great work.
In my initial conversations with ADO, when they found out that I keep my camp build in place full time (vs unloading, driving around town empty etc) they felt the parabolic was better suited than doing an add-a-leaf. If I understand correctly, the parabolic needs a pretty good load on it and may not be the right choice for someone who uses their truck more traditionally, eg empty most of the time but occasional heavy loads.
The ASFIR front skid plate is designed to bolt up to and support the stock front bumper - which obviously I don’t have. Since shooting this video, I have modified the mounting bracket and the plate itself to better fit my configuration. Looks much better now, and you’ll see it soon on IG and upcoming videos. 👍🏻
Edit: oh, the u-bolts. Yeah, I’ll ask about that. They do stick out quite a ways. Maybe I can cut them off.
@@softroadingthewest Thank you for your detailed reply. Appreciate it very much.
Hey Donald! I like everything you have done to your truck, it looks amazing! I would like to know if you included the 1/2" spacer in the front? I am trying to get an idea what the extra spacer up front will do and if I will need it.
No, in front it's just ADO's medium-duty lift springs.
Okay, this is great to know. Thank you for your reply. I look forward to seeing more content from your channel!
Truck shaping up well be blessed
Looks great!
Thank you for the fine video😎👍
The truck looks more aggressive for sure.👍 looking forward to seeing the winch install. Harbor Freight or something more $$$?
Still trying to figure that out. That’s why that winch mount is still empty. 😄
Fantastic review. Thank you for posting this. How do you rate the on highway ride compared to stock?
Ok, you answered this question towards the end. Thanks again.
With the lift kit that you installed from Alldogs Offroad, did you need to add after market upper control arms as well? Also, is it safe to say that the lift kit gave you move of a factory rake kind of stance instead of a leveled stance? I just bought a 2014 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x and would love to lift it, but I want to keep the factory rake so I can throw a canopy and tent on the box, as apposed to the truck looking leveled. Love your truck and set up by the way, sweet rig!
I am still running the stock UCAs and (as far as I know) have not had an issue. While it's not a bad idea to replace the UCAs while you're at it (which Alldogs does also make for the Frontier), with this particular combination of springs & shocks, apparently there is juuuuust enough clearance in there.
The way the rear sits will depend on what rear spring option you go for. The parabolics we decided to go with on my truck are designed to carry a load full time. Without weight in the rear, yes, my truck sits quite raked. Even with the topper build seen in this video, it was still underloaded and sitting raked. If you take a peek at my more recent videos, you'll see the current version of my rig now includes a different camper, a heavier interior buildout, and I've added an offroad bumper/swingout which is carrying my extra fuel, propane, and other items. Only when fully loaded with all 10 gallons of extra fuel, a week's worth of water and all my gear for a weeklong trip, does the truck finally sit pretty close to level.
Talking directly with the guys at Alldogs would be the best thing to do before making a decision. They know Frontiers in and out and can help you figure out the configuration of components that makes the most sense for how you use your truck and what you want to achieve. Congrats on the Frontier, and good luck!
Thank you very much for the in depth reply, it's greatly appreciated!@@softroadingthewest
14:00 Based on their website UCA are highly recommended so that info is confusing
It looks great, congrats. Did you need to include new upper control arms? Also, what adjustment setting are you using for front and rear?
Hey! Great upload, thanks. When I first got my 2010 Frontier, I paid to have a spacer lift + level kit put on it. A week later, I paid to have that kit taken off! Alignment was gnar, fuel economy went down, and it just felt cheap and nasty … Now, you’ve got me thinking! Any of the aforementioned issues with the alldogs’ kit you’ve installed? TIA.
Zero impact on MPGs. With the new adjustable camber bolts, my alignment shop had no problem dialing it in…in fact he was skeptical going into it and was surprised how easily he got it aligned. Zero regrets here. 👍🏻
Congrats… looks sweet , next up you need to add a little more front bumper and install a winch
Nice truck the frontier is a good midsized truck.
wool wax undercoating keeps all trucks rust free. Im in the salt belt with an older truck with no rust.
Great stuff I have a 16 frontier I'm looking to start moding. What size tires are you running?
In this video, I still have the OEM Pro4x size, 265/75R16 (~31"). After the lift I have since bumped up to 285/75R16 (~33").
What do you think of the Asfir skid plates? I've looked at them for my truck and like the design but the international shipping wipes out any $ savings vs some of the big name/big dollar domestic companies.
they are comparable in price to Hefty Fab's aluminum skid package. I've used mine in rocky stuff and they've taken quite a few decent hits. nothing is out of whack yet.
did the guy who put the lift on also do a wheel alignment? if not, you need one.
I had my usual alignment shop in my town do the alignment. He was able to dial it is quickly and easily. 👍🏻
Can you do an update or 2yr review of this?
This is exactly what i'm looking for but unfortuantely all dogs doesn't ship to Canada :(
I hope you got an alignment after the lift Donald lol. Do you miss your subaru? Do you miss the gas savings? Love the video
Yes, didn’t occur to me to mention the alignment because that’s just a given. My alignment shop was able to dial it right in very easily (they could never get the Forester 100% dialed in).
I miss how nimble the Forester was on narrow trails and being able to turn around virtually anywhere at anytime, but that’s about it. I took a small hit to MPG moving to the pickup but the Forester already wasn’t getting fabulous mileage with its mods, so it wasn’t a huge difference. What I’ve gained has proven well worth it. I loved that Forester but for overland trips, I am much much happier in the Frontier. 🙂
Yay!
airbags & bike pump next ;)
Were you able to use stock upper control arms I am trying to lift 2 in. on my 17 p4x and can’t get an answer I really don’t want to change upper control arms but am afraid they may make coil bucket contact
Stock UCAs, yes. It has been fine. Can’t hurt to upgrade the UCAs while you’ve got everything taken apart, but I have not perceived any problem staying stock.
Im about to do this lift only i did the add a leaf and high clearance ucas.and added the spacer. What tire size and rim are you running?
In this video, the truck has the stock rims (16") and stock Pro-4x tire size (265/75R16...~31"). If you look at more recent videos, you will see that I'm now running larger tires (285/75/R16...~33") on AllDogs Offroad's 16" Frontier/Xterra rims.