This is the greatest JToH video ever to exist. We need more KToH/JToH history videos and i think you could be the perfect person to make those, Esha. Nice job
A lot of it might be biased information, I may not be a part of the community anymore (at least I hope I am not affiliated with it) I still watch from the shadows. I really don't recommend this.
KToH/JToH History is Obbying history. I had an idea similar to esha's that have been in the works rn covering many aspects of obbying jtoh and not. But please don't think that JToH/KToH isn't in some way Obbying History, because it is lol.
@@immortalkeiji4451 There are many, trust me lol. Obbying extends way beyond just JToH, people consider Tower of Hell to be training wheels compared to JToH. But most relative towers in JToH are training wheels compared to the far reaches and extensions of obbying that people have been through, beaten, and conquered. Trust me haha, if you'd like me to name a few obbyists that doesn't play JToH I can if you want.
I didn't know I wanted JToH history videos. But now I do know. This was a very informative video, and I definitely think you should make more of these, whether they are based on flaws or not.
Subscribed and liked. Great video. Solution 3 and 4 are probably the best if you ask me. Beat a catasthrophic tower with FULL video proof without any cheats or cheese. Or just delete the role. (I’m pretty sure Elite Obbyist has been deleted by now, so yeah, cool.)
also just a note: ToGaH wasn't the only tower added the ring 5 automatically, every tower was and.. in the video it's stated that downplaying towers by EOs isn't good, however the 2nd solution is to remove towers from the pool of towers you can complete for EO
i think that making eo requirments extreme+ is not a good idea. most peoples arguments for making it extreme+ is because there are too many eos, but eo was never supposed to be rare. eo is for people who are good at obbies
Good video, very informative and structered well to hopefully not cause that many flamewars and the logic you give is justified very nicely. I'm no video reviewer or anything but keep up the good work man.
This brought flashbacks, I remember being in server where people would ask are you an EO... tbh the community got toxic after this and I am glad it was removed, rip EO, you will not be missed.
Ya know, I've been an EO for months and most SC completions were Insane difficulty around 1-2 years ago but right now, there's has been a lot of Extreme-Terrifying wins. I think the better idea is to buff the requirements but since that's more controversial on how people can flex it even more and also lower the variants of SC difficulties, yeah just remove it
what if we make the elite obbyist role only for catastrophic towers and terrifying towers and below give you a different role like good obbyist or something idk
Blockerman666 and Friendly Fart are the only EOs according to solution 3 because they are the only ones who beat Cata+ without cheesing, using items, or clipping out of GBJ
Honestly it is true, but I do keep the rank in mind for people that are tier 13-14 (I am tier 13 only), or people that've beaten an sc to consider them at an above average level. Although I agree with Logan's opinion on this.
ToIF should not be elite obbyist ToTL or higher should get elite obbyist ToIF Literally i beaten it on the practice place i think its a little bit lower than ToSO difficulty (Maybe its just me used to the gameplay style of ToIF) Edit:i think it has an extremely toxic impact
around a year ago, I wanted the role, so I grinded ToDC.. I ended up failing (and I'm actually serious) the last floor around 40 times total in the span of 3 weeks .. i never ended up completing todc and never got the role and eventually just stopped doing roblox obbying because I just got bored with it .. and because a few months afterwards the new todc was added so I just lost all motivation. stupid 0.1 stud.
I think ToDT should not be removed from EO in solution 2. It has a few hard sections which make it hard enough to be still be insane and EO imo. ToC is also a bit in the middle. Most of it is easy, and the conveyor stud near the end, which made it annoying, having to heal on it and dance clip out due to its rng, but it got nerfed to a normal stud. However, due to the difficulty of the start, and the fact that many of the conveyors can push you differently each time, adding an rng aspect, it might still be EO worthy.
That role was such a big reason to me leaving the community. The toxicity it created from around mid-2019 onwards had such a negative impact that I would even go as far as saying it killed a lot of the fun/community engagement for people that played prior (and caused them to, well, you know, leave).
Maybe EO can get moved up to extreme and get an exclusive chat and voice chat in the discord. Or just remove it. Thats probably a good idea Edit: Even better idea: How about there be a subcategory of EO for each SC difficulty? Insane: Pro Obbyist Extreme: Super Obbyist Terrifying: Elite Obbyist Catastrophic: Legendary Obbyist Each subcategory will get a special chat and voice chat room. To prevent flexing on EO Subcategories lower than yours, the previous EO rank you had will be taken away after the next one is awarded. (For example, if you beat a terrifying, your extreme rank will be removed and your terrifying rank will be rewarded).
it would be kinda sad if your in the super obbyist room and someone you actually got to know beat a terri while talking to you so you basically forgot their username and couldn't friend them until you beat a terri like them lol
i got a solution that goes like this 1st insane rank skilled obbyist 1st extreme rank pro obbyist 1st terry rank top obbyist 1st catastrophic rank elite obbyist easy
![Juke's Towers of Hell Flawed: Catastrophic Towers [Ring 9 Part 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mQRfNiyQNFc/mqdefault.jpg)
![Juke's Towers of Hell Flawed: Catastrophic Towers [Ring 9 Part 2]](/img/tr.png)
This is the greatest JToH video ever to exist. We need more KToH/JToH history videos and i think you could be the perfect person to make those, Esha. Nice job
yeah i agree that these type of history videos are pretty interesting to listen to and it will educate some people about this stuff
A lot of it might be biased information, I may not be a part of the community anymore (at least I hope I am not affiliated with it) I still watch from the shadows. I really don't recommend this.
KToH/JToH History is Obbying history. I had an idea similar to esha's that have been in the works rn covering many aspects of obbying jtoh and not. But please don't think that JToH/KToH isn't in some way Obbying History, because it is lol.
@@immortalkeiji4451 There are many, trust me lol. Obbying extends way beyond just JToH, people consider Tower of Hell to be training wheels compared to JToH. But most relative towers in JToH are training wheels compared to the far reaches and extensions of obbying that people have been through, beaten, and conquered. Trust me haha, if you'd like me to name a few obbyists that doesn't play JToH I can if you want.
ikr
this video is simply incredible. really hope you continue this series, i'm glad you're finally gaining the recognition you deserve.
DefinentlyGoose
most interesting jtoh video ive watched tbh, nice job :)
Jom do ToGF
@@knoqy9041 no
EO is a very controversial role. Thanks for breaking it down and really getting to the point. Very good video, keep up the amazing work.
I didn't know I wanted JToH history videos. But now I do know. This was a very informative video, and I definitely think you should make more of these, whether they are based on flaws or not.
This is one of the most interesting and entertaining things I have ever watched. I love this!
Woah, this is pretty good. Hope you get the recognition you deserve. It summarizes the history of KToH and JToH.
Logan is actually one of the people who understands the perspective of the problems, understanding, accountablity, and solutions
this needs way more views and id like to see a FitMC of jtoh because theres never been history covered about ktoh
EO is just red verified
This is one of the best things i've heard all day
Amazing
I'll need to tell the 300+ EOs about this pressing issue
doubt they will listen
Subscribed and liked. Great video. Solution 3 and 4 are probably the best if you ask me. Beat a catasthrophic tower with FULL video proof without any cheats or cheese. Or just delete the role. (I’m pretty sure Elite Obbyist has been deleted by now, so yeah, cool.)
Logan:i have solution! 9:51
*add of corn shows up*
Me:corn is the solution
I have a solution!
Ad: You can improve your child's math skills!
Me: Math was the solution.
This is absolutely mind blowing.
No one would be community caring crazy to make a video like this
You are.
*gives respect*
free content
Thats the way UA-cam works, crocodile
also just a note: ToGaH wasn't the only tower added the ring 5 automatically, every tower was
and.. in the video it's stated that downplaying towers by EOs isn't good, however the 2nd solution is to remove towers from the pool of towers you can complete for EO
i think that making eo requirments extreme+ is not a good idea. most peoples arguments for making it extreme+ is because there are too many eos, but eo was never supposed to be rare. eo is for people who are good at obbies
I agree, Insane would become a regular difficulty with no real significance
"A couple people" Yeah remember that time?
4 people
one completion
Yeah I remember that.
Edit: Yup you fucking showed it.
haha
Good video, very informative and structered well to hopefully not cause that many flamewars and the logic you give is justified very nicely. I'm no video reviewer or anything but keep up the good work man.
I want more, really nicely done ^_^
OMGGG wOrSt CURATOR IN THE WORLD OmegAlUL
joke
This brought flashbacks, I remember being in server where people would ask are you an EO... tbh the community got toxic after this and I am glad it was removed, rip EO, you will not be missed.
Funnly enough, i was in the ring when ToC was in that ring... it tought me how to do 1st person, later i found out about shift lock!
woa cool
7:50
Him: Things got to the point...
The song 1 second later: I have gotten to the point...
very well explained! I totally agree with you.
It's the first time i saw a so well made jtoh video
Ya know, I've been an EO for months and most SC completions were Insane difficulty around 1-2 years ago but right now, there's has been a lot of Extreme-Terrifying wins. I think the better idea is to buff the requirements but since that's more controversial on how people can flex it even more and also lower the variants of SC difficulties, yeah just remove it
Solution: Just remove it, kinda embarassing my former community has to have a whole session of congress just to remove it.
I agree with you as well, I am shocked though that the community is pushing for a change. You and I know very well how stubborn the community gets.
Or make it so only anyone who has completed borderline extreme towers - cata and above (if more difficulties get added)
hi obren ajutwsh fsiahfgiwhgwoaishdefhfwathegiateoaw
@Kav but it’s real obren
@Kav it’s the real obren
U are the official jtoh koneko kitten if u keep uploading these amazing vids!
I love how well the "low insane" for ToC holds up today
Did it get buffed through time? I feel like if not Logan just didn’t know what he was talking about lol
Solution 4 became a reality after all. GG for predicting it Logan
Poggers it's my guy logan_isl making another poggers video
Even as an eo myself it is flawed and I want it removed
You know a videos old when ToOH has a star 💀
this gives me 2011 sm64 video vibes, which is a good thing, going job
videos that were like, explaining the mechanics of sm64 not the skits
ok dis is actually fucking amazing. also how do i join teh jtoh discord?
what if we make the elite obbyist role only for catastrophic towers and terrifying towers and below give you a different role like good obbyist or something idk
could you put this video up for community contributions I wanna write subtitles
EOs: Pfft ToDC is a remorseless why even have eo role
Me: SC IS SC!!
Well that’s ironic
and btw, the role was thankfully removed
Blockerman666 and Friendly Fart are the only EOs according to solution 3 because they are the only ones who beat Cata+ without cheesing, using items, or clipping out of GBJ
Honestly it is true, but I do keep the rank in mind for people that are tier 13-14 (I am tier 13 only), or people that've beaten an sc to consider them at an above average level. Although I agree with Logan's opinion on this.
Logan you get sub because I remember you from rnw and this was very good video
Me:mom can we have konekokitten?
Mom:we have konekokitten at home
The konekokitten at home:
he is the koneko of jtoh
but he isn't a pedo
It really shouldn’t be extreme + because that would just boost the flexing part even more because you beat something harder...
ToIF should not be elite obbyist
ToTL or higher should get elite obbyist
ToIF
Literally i beaten it on the practice place i think its a little bit lower than ToSO difficulty (Maybe its just me used to the gameplay style of ToIF)
Edit:i think it has an extremely toxic impact
Ah, I’m sure you’ll be pleased to hear it’s been removed :)
I also agree just make it catastrophic
“Tower of difficulty chart classic was deleted from elite obbyist”
Remove “from elite obbyist” and you get the current situation
true
lol i just noticed this video was made 4 days after i beat tofn for the 1st time
lol
Hey Logan, I found out a mobile glitch on JToH, when I looked at JToH, it had no rating. Would you make a video on it?
never knew you could use the space button to enter a ring
16:55 rip
around a year ago, I wanted the role, so I grinded ToDC.. I ended up failing (and I'm actually serious) the last floor around 40 times total in the span of 3 weeks .. i never ended up completing todc and never got the role and eventually just stopped doing roblox obbying because I just got bored with it .. and because a few months afterwards the new todc was added so I just lost all motivation.
stupid 0.1 stud.
always nice to learn a bit more about ktoh.
16:33 ah yes my favourite fraction, one fourth
The thing is that I just recently met him in a moth game lol
Juke: sees this video
Also juke: ok I’ll delete EO
*Deletes EO*
?
how do you join discord jtoh server?
In Solution 3, kaan2005 has Elite Obbyist, he’s gonna stay like thAt
Myfart greenbean
TT 🟪 Hardest Insane
ToTL🟩 Second hardest
ToDCR🟨 Third
ToGaH⬜ Could be third or fourth rng tho
ToDT🟦 Easiest SC I recommend you try this
I think ToDT should not be removed from EO in solution 2. It has a few hard sections which make it hard enough to be still be insane and EO imo. ToC is also a bit in the middle. Most of it is easy, and the conveyor stud near the end, which made it annoying, having to heal on it and dance clip out due to its rng, but it got nerfed to a normal stud. However, due to the difficulty of the start, and the fact that many of the conveyors can push you differently each time, adding an rng aspect, it might still be EO worthy.
well i just also learned the origin of coil barriers on scs so thats cool
help why is this so interesting
Idk 60. Also you are months late but i am also weeks late to this reply.
dnk
Incredible video
Also the 5% that said positive are probably eos that don’t want the elite obbyist program removed
Jtoh was a fps or battle game because the only team is "Steel Blue Team"
LO'L
@@yp1c Laughing out m'lady
nice vid u deserve like 5k subs ngl
just rename it to “chad” lol
66.6% neutral rate can’t be a coincidence
It was when I took the calculation lol, I’m sure it’s different now
Logan_ISL - yeah I thought but good video anyways
That role was such a big reason to me leaving the community. The toxicity it created from around mid-2019 onwards had such a negative impact that I would even go as far as saying it killed a lot of the fun/community engagement for people that played prior (and caused them to, well, you know, leave).
It's actually shocking that the community is now owning up to it.
@@Logan_ISL they are???
@a rather long username that is trash i still don't want to come back
I don’t want to attack, but what the hell, ToDC:R is at least a low insane not rem
Maybe EO can get moved up to extreme and get an exclusive chat and voice chat in the discord. Or just remove it. Thats probably a good idea
Edit: Even better idea: How about there be a subcategory of EO for each SC difficulty?
Insane: Pro Obbyist
Extreme: Super Obbyist
Terrifying: Elite Obbyist
Catastrophic: Legendary Obbyist
Each subcategory will get a special chat and voice chat room. To prevent flexing on EO Subcategories lower than yours, the previous EO rank you had will be taken away after the next one is awarded. (For example, if you beat a terrifying, your extreme rank will be removed and your terrifying rank will be rewarded).
it would be kinda sad if your in the super obbyist room and someone you actually got to know beat a terri while talking to you so you basically forgot their username and couldn't friend them until you beat a terri like them lol
Horrific: Mythical Obbyist
Unreal: Top Obbyist
Got any ideas for difficulties above Unreal?
How about just bin every single one of these roles because discord is gay
what is the disc pls
Why not just make roles for each difficultly?
I love this video. It's like a JToH podcast lol
But just with a backround.
I would deadass listen to a podcast like that
epic 100/100
where is the discord and how to I get to it
Logan_ISL is just an absolute OG
i remember when i join KToH when it was created 10 day ago before i got scammed and i see some difficulties name (Horrific and unreal)
what is the discord ;-;
I like the 1st option the best imo
!getroles
My Man, 7:09 i have suspicion that you timed that jump wrong. Just maybe.
where it all started
how about rename elite obbyist to soul crushing tower completionist
logan are u english??? (ask cus language in 0:52)
what, it's literally in english
It should be for people who beat catastrophic towers
tofn barely remorseless
tofn barely remorseless
And now togah is rng again
Im actually trying to beat ToER itemless and legit, so wish me luck!
gl!
gl
did you beat it?
@@Arrowgu4 maybe like 2 years ago
Some people who have beaten a sc aren’t even in the jtoh discord xd
A lot haven’t. I think it’s best if they don’t.
if obren kept ktoh it would be called today otoh
VToH
pls give discord for the elite obbyiest
what
I am a mobile player this what I’m gonna do record the end of the tower but my time gonna be like 40 minutes lol
Amazing video
Love this video
i think it should just be terrifying+ for eo role
the new eo is speedrunner
It's gone now :)
GG
GG
GG
GG
gg pro
I like how this is guy who went ClOy ClOy ClOy PlEaSe Be My FrIeNd!
ToGaH is now rem soooooooo
Bye bye eo role you won’t be missed
12:36 it still is even with side clips
cOmMeNtAry EpIc
i got a solution that goes like this
1st insane rank skilled obbyist
1st extreme rank pro obbyist
1st terry rank top obbyist
1st catastrophic rank elite obbyist
easy
Bruh, the GD community is better than this and we're the same community that decided to throw a fight with the anime community.
Who the fuck asked?