Fun fact, this Arc takes place during the Outer Rim Sieges, during the last 6 months of the Clone Wars. During this time the Separatists invaded several worlds on the Outer Rim to spread the Republic all over there, leaving the Core Worlds, like Coruscant, more vulnerable.
29:25 Chris you're thinking of the Clone 99 (RIP). That's also why the Bad Batch is Clone Force 99, because they're named after 99 because they're all "defective" clones
Also to Chris and the rest of the couch, the Clone you referred to as "0" is actually 99, the clone with a hunchback who died during the attack on Kamino. With that in mind Clone force 99, also known as Bad Batch was named after him. Also Wreckers helmet actually has the numbers 99 in aurabesh
Disney canceled the show after season 5, but they were already in production on season 6, and the episodes that were finished were released on Netflix when they licensed the streaming rights. Disney wanted to create their own content, so they brought most of the animation team in to work on Rebels, albeit with Disney oversight. This season was produced and released after Rebels finished its run.
I think it was also a distribution rights issue with Cartoon Network that led them to have to cancel the show as well. This is why the episodes in season 6 that were already in post-production could be finished and released on Netflix but no further seasons could be made.
@@generalgrievous3423 Not to mention that by the end the episodes were becoming prohibitively expensive to produce. Lucas was fronting the cost out of pocket for a while apparently.
There was a deleted scene in ROTS where Obi-Wan talks to Padmé and he tells her that he knows about her and Anakin, Anakin knows that Obi-Wan knows about the relationship but they both pretend that he doesn't, becuase she makes him happy and all he wanted was to see his friend happy.
There was also another Bad Batch arc planned for Clone Wars that got canceled. I realize its probably too late now, but 2 of those canceled stories are Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple, a novel and comic that cover key events.
12:50 actually the armor that the bad batch is wearing is modified katarn armor which is what clone commandos wear. And for context Katarn armor is nearly indestructible, and in the expanded universe a Commando had a building blown up on top of him and he only ended up suffering a concussion from the initial blast.
It’s highly speculated much of Ashoka will be focused on many of what Rebels left unfinished. As well Rebels is over with while Bad Batch is still going on.
@@joeldean2706 I hope so. It'll be fun seeing their reactions. I watched Rebels before I watched Clone Wars so I'm more excited for them to watch Rebels with all the revelations and storyline tie ins.
@@Stupranos That's another reason I wanted them to watch Rebels first because it's finished and I think it'll be easier to have that come out than The Bad Batch.
It’s a weird experience seeing the introduction of the Bad Batch again, especially after, well… let’s just say some changes have taken place in their series.
I don’t think I realized how much they use the Bad Batch theme in these episodes. It’s so distinctive after watching the show, but I completely missed it when watching…
@@Dakblasta I disagree. I mean, sure, Star Wars is always jumping all over the place in the timeline and it can be confusing, but I think it’s important they watch Rebels first. Not only because of the Ahsoka show releasing later this year, but also because they would miss a couple of fun references in Bad Batch if they decided to watch it first. Plus, as someone else has already pointed out Bad Batch is not finished yet, so they would have to come back to it anyway.
@@renuzui Agree with you on this one. 1. Bad Batch is still ongoing whereas Rebels is finished. 2. Bad Batch has several deep call-backs from Rebels that they'll miss if they start with Bad Batch. It'd be like watching the Prequels before the Originals: you technically can, but you'll miss a lot of the references. 3. None of this discussion matters because I'm pretty sure the Normies only factor in votes from Patrons.
@@KelappanKing It’s funny you mention that it’s like watching the prequels before the originals, cause I actually thought of that after I made my comment lol.
You guys can watch both Rebels and The bad batch simultaneously but Rebels is important. Animation in Rebels will take time to settle in but it will keep getting better and story wise too.
Rewatching this with you all, it's crazy to see the evolution of animation and Dee Bradley Baker's voices for the Bad Batch. They all sound much more distinctive in the series.
Rebels first! It’s excellent, and very relevant to things coming up. You can go back and watch Bad Batch later and it won’t affect watching future shows.
Rebels first! Bad Batch is of course fun and worth watching, but Rebels is more important to the main storyline going forward (especially Ashoka show).
@@ThePete1081 but it will be interesting to see their reactions of the events in Bad Batch if they don't know the state of Rex and his clones during Rebels. In Bad Batch it seems like Rex is gathering clones and gaining power, we already know that they are doomed to fail because we know Rex is in hiding and pretty much retired, defeated. The Normies don't know that yet.
Gods, I remember when I first saw the unfinished versions of the Bad Batch arc years ago. So glad they were able to bring this story back, along with Clone Force 99!
It’s unanimous, Rebels is a must watch. Season 1 will be a bit tough at first, but it’s worth it for what happens in the rest of the show. It’s essential to watch it before the Ashoka show comes out
Isn't the Ahsoka arc chronologically first before this one? It doesn't matter, they'll get up to it eventually, I just feel like I heard that somewhere
I think it is, and also it being the weakest arc of the show people just want others to watch and get over with that way excitement goes up from there.
@@xTehOwn There is technically a plot hole if you watch them in this order, because in the Ahsoka arc there is a short scene where Anakin is on Coruscant, even though it is implied in this and the final arc that he did not return to Coruscant and Padmé between their holo-call here and him rushing off to save the Chancellor in the final arc and Revenge of the Sith Of course it is such a small inconsistency though that most probably won't even notice, so I don't think it really matters which order you watch it.
@@lunarlapras93 I thought Anakin being on coruscant was prior to the outer rim sieges, meaning the Martez sisters arc probably took place a few months before this one.
@@pastychong That's what I said. With "this order", I meant the order The Normies are watching the show, because Anakin wasn't on Coruscant between the Outer Rim Sieges and the beginning of Revenge of the Sith.
The game these guys are based on is called Republic Commando, it came out a while ago but you can still get it on new consoles. Great gameplay and surprisingly challenging and immersive 👍🏼
You could watch rebels and Bad Batch at the same time actually. But if one had to come first, I’d say Rebels. There is at least one arc and one episode in season one of Bad Batch that would connect better if you’ve seen Rebels first.
Rebels first, it’s more relevant and some aspects of the Bad Batch have more significance if you’ve already seen Rebels. It will also add context to stuff you’ve already seen in The Mandalorian. Also Rebels won the Patreon poll three to one, it’s your channel but if you intend to do Bad Batch just for the hype why have the poll to begin with?
So, just to clear some things up about Order 66: it's not a "betray the Republic and do everything we say" mind control. It's designed to make the clones kill the Jedi in the event that the order is executed. And the Separatists (except for Dooku) don't even know the true origins of the Order, or possibly even that it's an Order the clones have been taught. There are a lot of micro actions that are taken by the Separatists over the course of the war that are not directly connected to the macro actions surrounding Sidious and his plan for the Empire. Most of these micro actions are just opportunities for the Separatists to try and win the war, because they all think the whole point is to win. They don't know Sidious is playing them to consolidate power with the Chancellor's office so he can declare himself Emperor. The Separatists seceded (and later began the war) because they had legitmate issues with the corruption of the Republic, wanted to govern themselves independently and were then manipulated by Sidious and Dooku into becoming the galaxy's fall guys.
I love how episode 7x1 uses the clone's leitmotif to convey Rex's mental headspace. In the begining it comes off as incredibly somber and almost depressed. But after Rex realizes Echo's alive the leitmotif returns more truimphantly.
With what the guys were saying about Anaxes at the beginning: I'm pretty sure this system has been a contested one for most of the war. As it's basically Star Wars Cadia, the Separatist have thrown wave after wave at this bastion, trying to take it, and the Republic mobilizes all that it can spare while protecting the Core as possible. This system is also where the first squadrons of what will become the Imperial type star destroyers first appeared, the Victory line to be exact, which were replaced by the regular ISDs during the five years between now and Fallen Order, which means they likely had the regular ISDs in R&D at the time. With the creation of the regular ISDs, the Victories would either be decommissioned or put as ships to be given away to lower ranking moffs and governors.
After one season of Bad Batch, I would have unquestionably said Rebels next. Rebels establishes so much canon relevant to upcoming shows that it is indispensable. However,… season 2 of Bad Batch has been excellent. It is also a MUCH smoother transition from Clone Wars Season 7 to Bad Batch Season 1 because the animation is an evolution of this style, there are familiar characters, and it chronologically picks up right after Clone Wars. Rebels is an animation downgrade (Due to a lower budget) and starts off with a brand new cast, 15 years or so later. It’s more “essential”, and it’s really freakin good…b But now I understand either way
3:58 the reason for cancellation? There is no clear answer, but here is a little history lesson. After the second cancellation with the season 6 episodes airing on Netflix in 2014, you look back at the release of projects once Disney took over, you will notice that they released stuff focused on a particular era, The Original Trilogy. Hence, Rebels was created because the fans were always regarding the original trilogy as the best era, including me. The prequels weren’t highly regarded by fans around 2012-2014, the first years of Disney owning Lucasfilm. Skip to 2018, Rebels finished with 4 seasons, the sequel trilogy is dividing fans before Ep 9: Rise of Skywalker, and the Solo movie bombed. But one thing remained constant, fans wanted to #savetheclonewars. In summer 2018, Dave Filoni and crew announced during their 10th anniversary of CW, that a seventh season is coming. Then 2020, the final 12 episodes aired on Disney+. And this final season is the reason for more animated SW stuff like Bad Batch and Tales of the Jedi. This is the closest to answering why at least if it still confusing.
I think that in an ideal world you would watch The Bad Batch before Rebels. It would be the right order chronologically and not many have seen the shows in that order, meaning you would have a more unique perspective. That's my opinion at least. However from what we know of upcoming projects it seems like it might be necessary to watch Rebels first, just so you are caught up on certain characters in time.
To be fair: 1 - They're mostly not fighting battle droids anymore. Clones are tougher enemies + they hold back to avoid killing them a lot of the time (shown by them shooting to stun). 2 - They lost Crosshair, who's probably the most op member in combat and also losing any of the members breaks the group's perfect synergy and teamwork.
Might be exactly because they've watched Tales of the Jedi already that they're not commenting on it. They've seen it there already and they commented on how good it looked.
Bad batch first guys, it's only 2 seasons long so far, which you guys can knock out an under 2 or so months with your double up watching, it carries over this beautiful animation Style, and most importantly, it carries very essential knowledge for you to know before going into Rebels as to the state of the Galaxy
Idk how many times I've seen season 7 since it came out but it's a huge gut punch... And it never gets easier to watch... Ashoka is the god damn goat!😢
The fact that Commander Cody was the sole Clone in the Republic that the Bad Batch was willing to take orders from really shows you how much power Cody had in the Republic military. Highest ranking clone in the Republic, had control of the entire 7th Sky Corps, had multiple Clone Commando squads under his authority (including the one Gregor was originally in) and had the experimental Clone Force 99 assigned to him. Rex said "I'm in charge now" and Clone Force 99 came back with "You're not Cody, dickhead, shut up."
@@DarksideGmss0513 Not really. They were in completely different groups and Rex was only a Captain until season 8, making him a few ranks below Cody. They only really worked together and became friends because Obi-Wan and Anakin are always together so their clones work together a lot. Cody runs the entire 7th Sky Corps as a Marshal Commander, and personally leads the 212th Attack Battalion (the shock troops of the 7th Sky Corps) as a commander with Obi-Wan, the other battalions in the 7th Sky Corps are run by their own Commanders, with Cody having authority over them as the overall Marshal Commander of the bigger 7th Sky Corps, which is also one of the largest Clone forces in the Republic. Cody outranks every other known Clone Trooper besides Commander Bly, who also holds the title of Marshal Commander. So for a Clone to be "2nd in command" to Cody they would have to be a Commander within the 7th Sky Corps.
Clone Wars got cancelled after season 5 Season 6 was released on Netflix years later with all the arcs that they were far enough in development on Season 7 came out on Disney+
I personally prefer The Bad Batch but Rebels is probably the best choice to watch currently. The Ahsoka show will come out this year and that’s confirmed to be a sequel to Rebels, so it’s kinda best to watch it first.
You guys are lucky! We had to wait 6 long years for season 7…but they seriously delivered! It’s so good! Especially episodes 1-4 and 9-12. Also..watch Rebels first!!
I'd suggest doing the Bad Batch first. It has plot points that immediately pay off Clone Wars threads, especially if you're fresh of watching that series. It also sets up things that will enhance your experience of watching Rebels.
Only problem is it is still ongoing and only half way through season 2 so they will catch up quickly and have to move on to other items and then go back. causing it to be disjointed.
You guys are gonna be late for Ashoka anyways. There’s no way you’ll be able to finish all rebels in time to understand. I’d personally recommend just finish watching bad batch just because it’s shorter and yes although there’s two small character appearances in bad batch that are from rebels but honestly it’s not that big of a deal.
If they start Rebels right away after S7 finale and keep doing 2x week, they will at least have seen the Rebels S2 finale before watching Ahsoka. Better than nothing. Bad Batch can wait.
I definitely vote Rebels. Payoffs later in following shows are totally worth it. "They dont brutalize anyone else in Star Wars". Idk...Master Mundi breaking out the flamethrowers on the Geonosians was pretty intense, bugs or not. First time we've seen Jedi using tactics like that on living beings. Sabers sure, flamethrowers? Damn lol. Umbarans got pretty messed up by the clones too.
3:55 answering that question this show was canceled when Disney bought the franchise TCW used to be on cartoon they didn't want another Network making a Star Wars Show
Chronologically, Bad Batch happens right after Order 66. Rebels is about 5 years before A New Hope and is about the rebellion. Rebels came out before Bad Batch. I vote you watch Rebels next to tie into the Ahsoka show.
Since you guys asked, I think you guys should watch Rebels before you watch The Bad Batch. Personally I like The Bad Batch a lot more than Rebels, but things happen in The Bad Batch that you guys will understand and appreciate more if you watch Rebels first. Can't wait to see your reactions to both shows!
@16:52 When Obi-Wan shows that he knows Anakin was talking to Padme, you guys missed an epic editing moment. You could have inserted The Isley Brothers "Busted" right there. 😂
There's an absolutely hilarious deleted scene that you can find online. Anakin and Rex are going to the Bad Batch's ship and Anakin notices something painted on the nose. It's Padme in a sexy pin up poster style holding a blaster. Wrecker and Hunter then explain "That's our girl. The senator from Naboo. We check her out on the holoscans," "Yeah! She can debate with me any day!" Rex is standing there not knowing what to say and Anakin turns to him and pretty much growls "That's coming off!" I know it was removed so that Padme's last scene on the show had more to do with her relationship with Anakin than making her a sex symbol, but man I still would have loved for that to have made it onto this "children's show"
In my opinion it’s better to go to Rebels from here. Bad Batch has beautiful animation and it would be an easier transition following season 7, but there are just too many storylines in Rebels that should take priority. Also we don’t know for how many seasons Bad Batch will go on for. I think it would be impractical to jump between the shows unnecessary ❤️
Bad Batch is cool but it can be kinda slow and there's alot of references to Rebels, which progresses the overall story of Clone Wars alot more than Bad Batch does usually.
Bad batch takes place first chronologically and has the same animation style as clone wars. Plus since you're already introduced to the bad batch already it's better to get a start on their show rather than waiting The only reason rebels would be first is because if the cameos in the bad batch that are only appreciated after watching rebels, that's not enough reason in my opinion
This episodes of the bad batch were unfinished. They were suppose to be in another season of clone wars but they were cancelled. After some time and petition of the fans and Dave Filoni, the show was back and made them the way they were suppose to be The raw episodes are still out there on UA-cam
3:56-Star Wars: The Clone Wars first aired on Cartoon Network (Seasons 1-5). So when Disney bought Lucasfilms, Cartoon Network lost the rights to the show, which is why it was first cancelled. Then, using arcs and episodes already finished, Netflix was allowed to release Season 6. Finally, Season 7 came out to give the series a proper sendoff, as there were plans for at least 2 more seasons. This arc first came out as rough animation reels, along with another 4 episode arc where Obi-Wan and Anakin go to Utapau.
NORMIES LISTEN!!! After you're done with this season and Before you guys start, "Rebels" you *NEED* so see the mini series "Tails of the jedi" You guys could knock it out in practically 2 episodes. It explains the back stories of Asoka and count Doku!
Chronologically, Bad Batch is before Rebels. Rebels is when Leia and Luke are teenagers. Bad Batch they’re infants. The original Clone Wars stopped after season six because of the Disney buyout. Thru season six is OG Lucasfilm.
I think you should do the Bad Batch next for a couple of reason. It's next in the timeline picking up right after the end of the Clones Wars season 7. A lot of clones are seen in that series as it really is the continuation of Clone Wars, using some story ideas they had planned out for Season 8 of the Clone Wars that they never got to make. Also LucasFilm are starting to make connections between the Bad Batch and the Mandalorian.
Rebels first because its more important for the live-action Mandoverse stuff going forward whereas Bad Batch is seemingly more important for explaining Emperor cloning to justify his return in TRoS.
Watch the Bad Batch! It takes place right after order 66 and the beginning of the Empire rising. So, timeline wise, it makes sense to go with the Bad Batch.
Sad that not all unfinished episodes got completed but cant really complain when the final 4 episodes are that good. I would have also loved if they animated that Darth Maul comic.
The Bad Batch should be watched next since it picks up right after the Clone Wars ends. There are only 30 or so episodes but I would recommend watching this before Rebels, which is a series that takes place 5 years before A New Hope.
*I vote **_REBELS._* Chronologically the *Bad Batch* takes place before *Rebels,* but you'll definitely to need to have *Rebels* under your belt when the new live action shows come out this year.
The Bad Batch is an awesome show and you absolutely should watch it, but Rebels should definitely be first - some parts of Bad Batch will hit harder if you have seen Rebels ;)
addressing how this "feels like a trailer", including this arc as the beginning of season 7 definitely served to promote the bad batch show, but interestingly enough these episodes existed in their almost complete form for YEARS before they got finished you can watch the full arc of unfinished episodes still online, and aside from a couple small things they tweaked they are pretty much the same and were planned to be a part of the show way back before it got cancelled or the idea of a bad batch show even existed, with the batch being planned to show up in at least one more unmade arc down the line as far as my vote, i'd say watching bad batch first would make more sense, seeing as it would be chronological, but its also more of a deviation with a bunch of side quests where rebels has like some key amazing star wars lore stuff go down so idk it is a shorter watch though with only two seasons
Fun fact, this Arc takes place during the Outer Rim Sieges, during the last 6 months of the Clone Wars. During this time the Separatists invaded several worlds on the Outer Rim to spread the Republic all over there, leaving the Core Worlds, like Coruscant, more vulnerable.
29:25 Chris you're thinking of the Clone 99 (RIP). That's also why the Bad Batch is Clone Force 99, because they're named after 99 because they're all "defective" clones
@@looneyluna96 Season 2 picks up a lot though
@@looneyluna96 Bad Batch is great. Is it on the level of this, or the peerless Rebels? No. However, when its good, its VERY good.
Also to Chris and the rest of the couch, the Clone you referred to as "0" is actually 99, the clone with a hunchback who died during the attack on Kamino. With that in mind Clone force 99, also known as Bad Batch was named after him. Also Wreckers helmet actually has the numbers 99 in aurabesh
Disney canceled the show after season 5, but they were already in production on season 6, and the episodes that were finished were released on Netflix when they licensed the streaming rights. Disney wanted to create their own content, so they brought most of the animation team in to work on Rebels, albeit with Disney oversight. This season was produced and released after Rebels finished its run.
I think it was also a distribution rights issue with Cartoon Network that led them to have to cancel the show as well. This is why the episodes in season 6 that were already in post-production could be finished and released on Netflix but no further seasons could be made.
@@generalgrievous3423 Not to mention that by the end the episodes were becoming prohibitively expensive to produce. Lucas was fronting the cost out of pocket for a while apparently.
The real reason was money. Lucas was hemorrhaging insane money to keep Clone Wars. It was an easy choice to cancel it because the budget was nonsense.
@@generalgrievous3423 This is the main reason why. It's why they brought the show back as soon as they could.
@@TheLoreSeeker And that does show that Lucas pushes creativity moreso, regardless of what some anti Lucas people may suggest.
There was a deleted scene in ROTS where Obi-Wan talks to Padmé and he tells her that he knows about her and Anakin, Anakin knows that Obi-Wan knows about the relationship but they both pretend that he doesn't, becuase she makes him happy and all he wanted was to see his friend happy.
I love Rex's line to wrecker "you'll be a whole lot shorter when I'm done with you"
I believe him too. Wrecker is a beast, but Rex is the king of all clones!
I vote Rebels first. Bad batch is definitely fun but I believe the stories with Rebels are more impactful to future SW shows like Mando and Ahsoka
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Also Bad Batch series isn't finished yet. So they'd have to go back to it at some point anyway
bad batch opening scene doesn't hit as hard unless you watch rebels. They already made that mistake with watching The Mandalorian before this series
They should definitely watch Rebels first.
if their going by timeline it would be the bad batch but idm honestly I'll gladly watch them react to either of them
There was also another Bad Batch arc planned for Clone Wars that got canceled.
I realize its probably too late now, but 2 of those canceled stories are Son of Dathomir and Dark Disciple, a novel and comic that cover key events.
12:50 actually the armor that the bad batch is wearing is modified katarn armor which is what clone commandos wear. And for context Katarn armor is nearly indestructible, and in the expanded universe a Commando had a building blown up on top of him and he only ended up suffering a concussion from the initial blast.
Not Rana falling in love with another animated character 😂
Our girl got needs for clones
Rebels. I voted for Rebels because there are reasons why it'll make the other shows enjoyable and emotional.
Hopefully they react to Rebels next after Clone Wars. Just because its important to watch after Clone Wars and before the Ahsoka show comes out.
It’s highly speculated much of Ashoka will be focused on many of what Rebels left unfinished. As well Rebels is over with while Bad Batch is still going on.
Voted? When? And i agree rebels
@@joeldean2706 I hope so. It'll be fun seeing their reactions. I watched Rebels before I watched Clone Wars so I'm more excited for them to watch Rebels with all the revelations and storyline tie ins.
@@Stupranos That's another reason I wanted them to watch Rebels first because it's finished and I think it'll be easier to have that come out than The Bad Batch.
It’s a weird experience seeing the introduction of the Bad Batch again, especially after, well… let’s just say some changes have taken place in their series.
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I don’t think I realized how much they use the Bad Batch theme in these episodes. It’s so distinctive after watching the show, but I completely missed it when watching…
@@maja.z.pszczola And it is such a GOOD theme, too.
😪😪😪 the finale of season 2...😭😭😭
still crying
Rebels should absolutely be first, SPECIFICALLY for the early events of Bad Batch.
Some parts don't have quite the same punch without it.
I’d say it should be bad batch because it picks up where the clone wars ends pretty much and rebels is a large jump in time
@@Dakblasta I disagree. I mean, sure, Star Wars is always jumping all over the place in the timeline and it can be confusing, but I think it’s important they watch Rebels first. Not only because of the Ahsoka show releasing later this year, but also because they would miss a couple of fun references in Bad Batch if they decided to watch it first.
Plus, as someone else has already pointed out Bad Batch is not finished yet, so they would have to come back to it anyway.
@@renuzui Agree with you on this one.
1. Bad Batch is still ongoing whereas Rebels is finished.
2. Bad Batch has several deep call-backs from Rebels that they'll miss if they start with Bad Batch. It'd be like watching the Prequels before the Originals: you technically can, but you'll miss a lot of the references.
3. None of this discussion matters because I'm pretty sure the Normies only factor in votes from Patrons.
@@KelappanKing It’s funny you mention that it’s like watching the prequels before the originals, cause I actually thought of that after I made my comment lol.
You guys simply won't understand Ahsoka show without seeing Rebels and future Star Wars as well. Bad Batch doesn't affect as much.
Minus where all the Clones are.
You guys can watch both Rebels and The bad batch simultaneously but Rebels is important. Animation in Rebels will take time to settle in but it will keep getting better and story wise too.
Rewatching this with you all, it's crazy to see the evolution of animation and Dee Bradley Baker's voices for the Bad Batch. They all sound much more distinctive in the series.
Rebels first! It’s excellent, and very relevant to things coming up. You can go back and watch Bad Batch later and it won’t affect watching future shows.
Rebels first!
Bad Batch is of course fun and worth watching, but Rebels is more important to the main storyline going forward (especially Ashoka show).
Agreed but I still say bad batch first because its a lot shorter and it's still coming out.
@Jacob Dutton but they'll catch up to it before it's finished.
@@ThePete1081 but it will be interesting to see their reactions of the events in Bad Batch if they don't know the state of Rex and his clones during Rebels.
In Bad Batch it seems like Rex is gathering clones and gaining power, we already know that they are doomed to fail because we know Rex is in hiding and pretty much retired, defeated. The Normies don't know that yet.
Not to mention Bad batch spoils some stuff from rebels
EH I feel it's more important to keep going with the clones' story first. And it's more in the tone of Clone Wars.
Gods, I remember when I first saw the unfinished versions of the Bad Batch arc years ago. So glad they were able to bring this story back, along with Clone Force 99!
THIS IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS YALL, WE’RE IN THE ENDGAME NOW
It’s unanimous, Rebels is a must watch. Season 1 will be a bit tough at first, but it’s worth it for what happens in the rest of the show. It’s essential to watch it before the Ashoka show comes out
Isn't the Ahsoka arc chronologically first before this one? It doesn't matter, they'll get up to it eventually, I just feel like I heard that somewhere
I think it is, and also it being the weakest arc of the show people just want others to watch and get over with that way excitement goes up from there.
Maybe they wanted to wait a bit longer, to make it feel like it's been longer since they last saw her.
@@xTehOwn There is technically a plot hole if you watch them in this order, because in the Ahsoka arc there is a short scene where Anakin is on Coruscant, even though it is implied in this and the final arc that he did not return to Coruscant and Padmé between their holo-call here and him rushing off to save the Chancellor in the final arc and Revenge of the Sith
Of course it is such a small inconsistency though that most probably won't even notice, so I don't think it really matters which order you watch it.
@@lunarlapras93 I thought Anakin being on coruscant was prior to the outer rim sieges, meaning the Martez sisters arc probably took place a few months before this one.
@@pastychong That's what I said. With "this order", I meant the order The Normies are watching the show, because Anakin wasn't on Coruscant between the Outer Rim Sieges and the beginning of Revenge of the Sith.
The game these guys are based on is called Republic Commando, it came out a while ago but you can still get it on new consoles. Great gameplay and surprisingly challenging and immersive 👍🏼
You could watch rebels and Bad Batch at the same time actually. But if one had to come first, I’d say Rebels. There is at least one arc and one episode in season one of Bad Batch that would connect better if you’ve seen Rebels first.
9:37 EXACTLY!!!...... the amount of times ive seen maps in movies and tv they always seem to forget New Zealand somehow
Rebels first, it’s more relevant and some aspects of the Bad Batch have more significance if you’ve already seen Rebels. It will also add context to stuff you’ve already seen in The Mandalorian.
Also Rebels won the Patreon poll three to one, it’s your channel but if you intend to do Bad Batch just for the hype why have the poll to begin with?
So, just to clear some things up about Order 66: it's not a "betray the Republic and do everything we say" mind control. It's designed to make the clones kill the Jedi in the event that the order is executed. And the Separatists (except for Dooku) don't even know the true origins of the Order, or possibly even that it's an Order the clones have been taught.
There are a lot of micro actions that are taken by the Separatists over the course of the war that are not directly connected to the macro actions surrounding Sidious and his plan for the Empire. Most of these micro actions are just opportunities for the Separatists to try and win the war, because they all think the whole point is to win. They don't know Sidious is playing them to consolidate power with the Chancellor's office so he can declare himself Emperor. The Separatists seceded (and later began the war) because they had legitmate issues with the corruption of the Republic, wanted to govern themselves independently and were then manipulated by Sidious and Dooku into becoming the galaxy's fall guys.
I love how episode 7x1 uses the clone's leitmotif to convey Rex's mental headspace. In the begining it comes off as incredibly somber and almost depressed. But after Rex realizes Echo's alive the leitmotif returns more truimphantly.
With what the guys were saying about Anaxes at the beginning: I'm pretty sure this system has been a contested one for most of the war. As it's basically Star Wars Cadia, the Separatist have thrown wave after wave at this bastion, trying to take it, and the Republic mobilizes all that it can spare while protecting the Core as possible.
This system is also where the first squadrons of what will become the Imperial type star destroyers first appeared, the Victory line to be exact, which were replaced by the regular ISDs during the five years between now and Fallen Order, which means they likely had the regular ISDs in R&D at the time. With the creation of the regular ISDs, the Victories would either be decommissioned or put as ships to be given away to lower ranking moffs and governors.
After one season of Bad Batch, I would have unquestionably said Rebels next. Rebels establishes so much canon relevant to upcoming shows that it is indispensable.
However,… season 2 of Bad Batch has been excellent. It is also a MUCH smoother transition from Clone Wars Season 7 to Bad Batch Season 1 because the animation is an evolution of this style, there are familiar characters, and it chronologically picks up right after Clone Wars.
Rebels is an animation downgrade (Due to a lower budget) and starts off with a brand new cast, 15 years or so later. It’s more “essential”, and it’s really freakin good…b
But now I understand either way
Y’all should do the finale 4 episodes all together the’er perfect!
3:58 the reason for cancellation? There is no clear answer, but here is a little history lesson.
After the second cancellation with the season 6 episodes airing on Netflix in 2014, you look back at the release of projects once Disney took over, you will notice that they released stuff focused on a particular era, The Original Trilogy.
Hence, Rebels was created because the fans were always regarding the original trilogy as the best era, including me. The prequels weren’t highly regarded by fans around 2012-2014, the first years of Disney owning Lucasfilm.
Skip to 2018, Rebels finished with 4 seasons, the sequel trilogy is dividing fans before Ep 9: Rise of Skywalker, and the Solo movie bombed. But one thing remained constant, fans wanted to #savetheclonewars. In summer 2018, Dave Filoni and crew announced during their 10th anniversary of CW, that a seventh season is coming. Then 2020, the final 12 episodes aired on Disney+. And this final season is the reason for more animated SW stuff like Bad Batch and Tales of the Jedi. This is the closest to answering why at least if it still confusing.
WB had the broadcast rights.
I think that in an ideal world you would watch The Bad Batch before Rebels. It would be the right order chronologically and not many have seen the shows in that order, meaning you would have a more unique perspective. That's my opinion at least. However from what we know of upcoming projects it seems like it might be necessary to watch Rebels first, just so you are caught up on certain characters in time.
Final Four episodes together like A movie. Breaking up that final arc would be a criminal Offense!
Bad batch has been consistently bringing back clone wars plots. Its the go to next show. And same animation but better
And then the bad batch get nerfed to hell in their own show. Gotta love that unlockable boss trope.
To be fair:
1 - They're mostly not fighting battle droids anymore. Clones are tougher enemies + they hold back to avoid killing them a lot of the time (shown by them shooting to stun).
2 - They lost Crosshair, who's probably the most op member in combat and also losing any of the members breaks the group's perfect synergy and teamwork.
Disappointed nobody mentioned how good it looks. Season 7 looks stunning and Tales of the Jedi looks even better
Might be exactly because they've watched Tales of the Jedi already that they're not commenting on it. They've seen it there already and they commented on how good it looked.
Most blasters are powered by tibanna gas, which is what Lando collected and refined on Bespin in Empire Strikes Back.
Bad batch first guys, it's only 2 seasons long so far, which you guys can knock out an under 2 or so months with your double up watching, it carries over this beautiful animation Style, and most importantly, it carries very essential knowledge for you to know before going into Rebels as to the state of the Galaxy
I remember when this season first came out. I couldn't believe I was watching more Clone Wars. Such a surreal feeling at the time.
You guys need to do Rebels and Bad Batch simultaneously.
Idk how many times I've seen season 7 since it came out but it's a huge gut punch... And it never gets easier to watch... Ashoka is the god damn goat!😢
Definitely watch Rebels first so you can actually watch the Ahsoka show lol
The fact that Commander Cody was the sole Clone in the Republic that the Bad Batch was willing to take orders from really shows you how much power Cody had in the Republic military. Highest ranking clone in the Republic, had control of the entire 7th Sky Corps, had multiple Clone Commando squads under his authority (including the one Gregor was originally in) and had the experimental Clone Force 99 assigned to him. Rex said "I'm in charge now" and Clone Force 99 came back with "You're not Cody, dickhead, shut up."
Wasn't Rex basically second in command under Cody.
@@DarksideGmss0513 Not really. They were in completely different groups and Rex was only a Captain until season 8, making him a few ranks below Cody. They only really worked together and became friends because Obi-Wan and Anakin are always together so their clones work together a lot. Cody runs the entire 7th Sky Corps as a Marshal Commander, and personally leads the 212th Attack Battalion (the shock troops of the 7th Sky Corps) as a commander with Obi-Wan, the other battalions in the 7th Sky Corps are run by their own Commanders, with Cody having authority over them as the overall Marshal Commander of the bigger 7th Sky Corps, which is also one of the largest Clone forces in the Republic. Cody outranks every other known Clone Trooper besides Commander Bly, who also holds the title of Marshal Commander. So for a Clone to be "2nd in command" to Cody they would have to be a Commander within the 7th Sky Corps.
@@AustinFoss00 Ok thanks.
Clone Wars got cancelled after season 5
Season 6 was released on Netflix years later with all the arcs that they were far enough in development on
Season 7 came out on Disney+
I personally prefer The Bad Batch but Rebels is probably the best choice to watch currently. The Ahsoka show will come out this year and that’s confirmed to be a sequel to Rebels, so it’s kinda best to watch it first.
The old guy wasn't zero, he was clone 99. That is why they named themselves Clone Force 99. "Zero" was a derogatory epithet.
You guys are lucky! We had to wait 6 long years for season 7…but they seriously delivered! It’s so good! Especially episodes 1-4 and 9-12.
Also..watch Rebels first!!
spideys robotic “I mean what the fuck” has me ROLLING
I'd suggest doing the Bad Batch first. It has plot points that immediately pay off Clone Wars threads, especially if you're fresh of watching that series. It also sets up things that will enhance your experience of watching Rebels.
Only problem is it is still ongoing and only half way through season 2 so they will catch up quickly and have to move on to other items and then go back. causing it to be disjointed.
You guys are gonna be late for Ashoka anyways. There’s no way you’ll be able to finish all rebels in time to understand. I’d personally recommend just finish watching bad batch just because it’s shorter and yes although there’s two small character appearances in bad batch that are from rebels but honestly it’s not that big of a deal.
If they start Rebels right away after S7 finale and keep doing 2x week, they will at least have seen the Rebels S2 finale before watching Ahsoka. Better than nothing. Bad Batch can wait.
The coolest experience is someone watching Bad Batch and Rebels at the same time. That worked out pretty well. I don't think it matters too much tbh
REBELS FOR SURE. SEASON ONE WILL BE A BIT ROUGH BUT SEASON TWO WILL MAKE UP FOR IT AND THEN SOME!
My favorite season! The animation is incredible and the stories are great. We get all of our favorites in one season
8:52 probably my favourite line in all the reactions
The Bad Batch always reminded me of a Dungeons and Dragons party and each member has a 20 in at least one of their scores.
I definitely vote Rebels. Payoffs later in following shows are totally worth it.
"They dont brutalize anyone else in Star Wars". Idk...Master Mundi breaking out the flamethrowers on the Geonosians was pretty intense, bugs or not. First time we've seen Jedi using tactics like that on living beings. Sabers sure, flamethrowers? Damn lol. Umbarans got pretty messed up by the clones too.
3:55 answering that question this show was canceled when Disney bought the franchise TCW used to be on cartoon they didn't want another Network making a Star Wars Show
Finally !!!!! Meet the Bad batch !!!!!!!
One of my favorite clones and definitely one of the best batches of all the clone army
I know a lot would say watch rebels and it’s valid but I would watch the bad batch first as it is chronological order. And then watch the rebels
Chronologically, Bad Batch happens right after Order 66. Rebels is about 5 years before A New Hope and is about the rebellion. Rebels came out before Bad Batch. I vote you watch Rebels next to tie into the Ahsoka show.
Rebels is currently much more important to other projects than Bad Batch so I would suggest sticking with release order and watching Rebels first
Since you guys asked, I think you guys should watch Rebels before you watch The Bad Batch. Personally I like The Bad Batch a lot more than Rebels, but things happen in The Bad Batch that you guys will understand and appreciate more if you watch Rebels first. Can't wait to see your reactions to both shows!
The Bad Batch were such a great addition to Star Wars.
Clone Force 99 is called The Bad Batch because defective clone trooper 99 was referred to as a “bad batcher”
As long as you finish REBELS before the Ahsoka show, that's all that matters...
@16:52 When Obi-Wan shows that he knows Anakin was talking to Padme, you guys missed an epic editing moment. You could have inserted The Isley Brothers "Busted" right there. 😂
The Bad Batch!! you’re going to love that show, i love your reactions so much and i would love to see you guys react to it! 🫶🏼
There's an absolutely hilarious deleted scene that you can find online. Anakin and Rex are going to the Bad Batch's ship and Anakin notices something painted on the nose. It's Padme in a sexy pin up poster style holding a blaster. Wrecker and Hunter then explain "That's our girl. The senator from Naboo. We check her out on the holoscans," "Yeah! She can debate with me any day!"
Rex is standing there not knowing what to say and Anakin turns to him and pretty much growls "That's coming off!"
I know it was removed so that Padme's last scene on the show had more to do with her relationship with Anakin than making her a sex symbol, but man I still would have loved for that to have made it onto this "children's show"
In my opinion it’s better to go to Rebels from here. Bad Batch has beautiful animation and it would be an easier transition following season 7, but there are just too many storylines in Rebels that should take priority. Also we don’t know for how many seasons Bad Batch will go on for. I think it would be impractical to jump between the shows unnecessary ❤️
Bad Batch is cool but it can be kinda slow and there's alot of references to Rebels, which progresses the overall story of Clone Wars alot more than Bad Batch does usually.
Not to mention, the Ahsoka show and Mando s3 has direct connections to Rebels.
It’s probably been said, but this clone force 99. The old defective clone was 99.
Bad batch takes place first chronologically and has the same animation style as clone wars. Plus since you're already introduced to the bad batch already it's better to get a start on their show rather than waiting
The only reason rebels would be first is because if the cameos in the bad batch that are only appreciated after watching rebels, that's not enough reason in my opinion
Season 7 is focused about two character. The two original character of The Clone Wars: Ahsoka and Rex
This episodes of the bad batch were unfinished. They were suppose to be in another season of clone wars but they were cancelled.
After some time and petition of the fans and Dave Filoni, the show was back and made them the way they were suppose to be
The raw episodes are still out there on UA-cam
3:56-Star Wars: The Clone Wars first aired on Cartoon Network (Seasons 1-5). So when Disney bought Lucasfilms, Cartoon Network lost the rights to the show, which is why it was first cancelled. Then, using arcs and episodes already finished, Netflix was allowed to release Season 6. Finally, Season 7 came out to give the series a proper sendoff, as there were plans for at least 2 more seasons. This arc first came out as rough animation reels, along with another 4 episode arc where Obi-Wan and Anakin go to Utapau.
NORMIES LISTEN!!! After you're done with this season and Before you guys start, "Rebels" you *NEED* so see the mini series "Tails of the jedi" You guys could knock it out in practically 2 episodes. It explains the back stories of Asoka and count Doku!
Chris literally falls asleep during the second episode every single week
Chronologically, Bad Batch is before Rebels. Rebels is when Leia and Luke are teenagers. Bad Batch they’re infants. The original Clone Wars stopped after season six because of the Disney buyout. Thru season six is OG Lucasfilm.
The old clone's name is 99. That's what the Bad Batch is named after :)
I’m going with Bad Batch first. Chronologically it works, and it tell doesn’t spoil anything important.
LET'S GOOOOO!!!!! Feel like I've been waiting YEARS for this. Season 7...the best thing that Star Wars has ever done.
Here we go! I have been waiting SO PATIENTLY for your reaction to this season!!!!!
We're in the endgame now
Well sort of, you could argue we don't reach that until the last arc.
I think you should do the Bad Batch next for a couple of reason. It's next in the timeline picking up right after the end of the Clones Wars season 7. A lot of clones are seen in that series as it really is the continuation of Clone Wars, using some story ideas they had planned out for Season 8 of the Clone Wars that they never got to make.
Also LucasFilm are starting to make connections between the Bad Batch and the Mandalorian.
Rebels first because its more important for the live-action Mandoverse stuff going forward whereas Bad Batch is seemingly more important for explaining Emperor cloning to justify his return in TRoS.
Rebels, because of cameos ect that you won't understand if you watch Bad Batch first.
Watch the Bad Batch! It takes place right after order 66 and the beginning of the Empire rising. So, timeline wise, it makes sense to go with the Bad Batch.
Sad that not all unfinished episodes got completed but cant really complain when the final 4 episodes are that good.
I would have also loved if they animated that Darth Maul comic.
There are a lot of Rebels references in Bad Batch so I recommend watching Rebels first and then Bad Batch.
4:22 This is going to be great! The Bad Batch are finally here! 🙏🏽💪
The Bad Batch should be watched next since it picks up right after the Clone Wars ends. There are only 30 or so episodes but I would recommend watching this before Rebels, which is a series that takes place 5 years before A New Hope.
*I vote **_REBELS._* Chronologically the *Bad Batch* takes place before *Rebels,* but you'll definitely to need to have *Rebels* under your belt when the new live action shows come out this year.
The Bad Batch is an awesome show and you absolutely should watch it, but Rebels should definitely be first - some parts of Bad Batch will hit harder if you have seen Rebels ;)
Bad Batch first. There's a lot that explains what happened to the clones in the emprie. It's not that much, after that Rebels It's much longer.
marketta's fit is on point ngl. looking amazing with the earings and all
addressing how this "feels like a trailer", including this arc as the beginning of season 7 definitely served to promote the bad batch show, but interestingly enough these episodes existed in their almost complete form for YEARS before they got finished
you can watch the full arc of unfinished episodes still online, and aside from a couple small things they tweaked they are pretty much the same and were planned to be a part of the show way back before it got cancelled or the idea of a bad batch show even existed, with the batch being planned to show up in at least one more unmade arc down the line
as far as my vote, i'd say watching bad batch first would make more sense, seeing as it would be chronological, but its also more of a deviation with a bunch of side quests where rebels has like some key amazing star wars lore stuff go down
so idk
it is a shorter watch though with only two seasons
You guys should play Republic Commando. Delta Squad is like the Bad Batch, but more organized and more versatile.
Knowledge is part of the jedi job...of course Obi-Wan would know ! loll
Eric from BW also called Hunter Ranbow lol I love it