REALITY ORIENTATION: There was no KEVLAR in Vietnam. They first used it for belted tires in 1970. The purpose of the helmet was to stop shrapnel; not a rifle bullet.
@@ultramarine3527 soldiers were issued body armour but it was rare to see it being worn as it traps in heat and it would be horrible to wear in Vietnam
As a Vietnam vetran l can tell you , the majority of the helmets we were issued , were from the 40's , 50's and the early 60's . The liners were probably not kevlar as aramid (kevlar) was just starting to be used in car tires to replace nylon and rayon in the belting in the mid 60's . 7.62 x 39 was used in the ak 47 and the sks during that time.
The liners were a resin stiffened fiberglass composite, not meant to have any ballistic defense, just to allow the steel pot to sit comfortably on your head. When not in combat you wore the liner. It was the same as used in WWII.
That's a 1980s M1. These are what they looked like at the end of their service life; woodland cover, quick detach chinstrap, new post-vietnam liners and steel shells made in the last batch in the late 1960s. Typically would have an elastic cat-eye band around it as well.
What I found interesting about the helmet's history is that they say it was shot with a 45. ACP at point-blank range during testing and stopped it. I don't know if it is accurate history or not, but I'm guessing it was fired at the same distance in the video and somehow stopped it. They also say that among US casualties wearing the helmet, 54 percent of rounds that hit failed to penetrate and saved the life of the soldier or saved him from injury.
@@jimmymarsh2489both rounds will go through a car door. Remember that inside a door there are other objects that may stop the round from making a full penetration. Mainly the motor that controls the window.
9:08 Yes, the 7.62 X 39 round completed development in 1948 and was used in the AK-47 assault rifle by the Viet Cong and North Vietnam regulars throughout the Viet Nam war. The U.S. began this war with the M-14 using the 7.62 X 61 NATO round, but the M16 assault rifle using the 5.56 X 45 round replaced the M14 starting in 1965.
They were intended to protect you from flack, shrapnel not direct hits from bullets. Liners were made out of fiberglass and were used as parade headwear and hold the helmet to the head comfortably. I’m a Vietnam vet from 1972-1973. Thanks for your great videos.
Still though most steel helmets from that era would reliably stop a single 9x19 or .45 ACP. The US Army had a training video in WW2 that told soldiers to not bother using the .45 ACP on German helmets.
Here's a little liner trivia for you. Back in the day you were issued the leather sweat band during basic training, and sized it to your head, and it went with you to wherever you were stationed. The actual helmet and liner would be issued as part of TA50. The sweat band had to be marked with your name and SSN, as did your boots, belts, etc. Never know what part of somebody might be all that's left, so it all got marked. Wouldn't surprise me if the sweat band you have in that helmet was marked with somebody's name and SSN. You could always unclip it, take it out, and have a look.
Also many weapons were captured, and early in the war they even made their own crude weapons like shotguns and submachine guns. The NVA wasn't widely equipped with AK-47's till later in the war, 1966-67
The liner of the helmet is made from resin and cotton. The resin is what makes it hard. A lot of times when you see soldiers parading the usually wear the liners instead of metal part of the helmet.this was to refuse the weight.
@General grievous no sí eso lo sé pero hay datos que meda pereza esforzarme en traducirlo y cuando escucho al mexicano hablar en inglés pues me pongo de mal humor porque digo: porque no habla en español el man xd
Steel pot comes in one size, while the inner helmet comes in multiple sizes. The inner helmet is the fitting helmet. It was done to cheapen production. One size steel pot fitted with a plastic type liner
I was in the Nam in the 60's The helmet was steel the Liner was fiberglass and yes the 762x39 in the SKS and AK 47 were standard NVA issue. The steel pot was more for pieces of mortar and rocket frags then direct rounds not to mention half cooking your brain in the tropics
The primary reason of helmets has been to stop shrapnel for years, since world war 1. Some of the only helmets designed to stop bullets and that were actually used are the soviet maska-1 and Altyn from the first Chechen war
@@ocelotrevolver674 Admittedly I'm not old enough (or the correct nationality) to have been in the Vietnam War, but it's a long time since anyone called me a kid!
That helmet was the best helmet design in the world, and the most widely issued with the German Stahlhelm being a very close second. Both shared excellent side and rear protection from side impact, but the US design was superior in that it had the removeable liner, making the steel sheel into a very useable field bucket. Also, the liner added superior impact absorption and increased preotection from penetration. There are anecdotal stories of direct bullet impacts that were deflected upwards, over th op of the interior space between the shell and liner. The liner was made of a resin impregnated cloth fiber. Sort of a precursor to fiberglass. It was pretty tough, and allowed the shell to be made in One Size Fits All dimensions. The German helmet came in 5 sizes. Maybe thats one reason the Germans looked so sharp, ay? The shell was made from "special" steel, called Hadfield steel, which was harder, but flexible to both reists and deflect shrapnel, or small caliber fire, such as from a pistol of those days. The German helmet was also made of Hadfield steel, but because it wsas not as round it did not defect as well, nor did it have a liner, the suspension being riverted directly to the single wall shell.
The German ww2 helmet was actually the best helmet in the world… WAS the skirt that ran around the helmet protected the neck and head the most from shrapnel
@@Gunsnstuff26 The German helmet is iconic and very good, but, the US M-1 helmet came down the sides as far as the German design as it was adjustable, and almost as far in the rear, but allowed a little clearance in the prone position, whereas the German helmet did not. There are many photos of American soldiers and marines only needing to raise their heads to see forward and many pics of Germans having to bend at the back to do so because of the low flange that blocked the neck. Thus, they often had to put their upper body into jeopardy. That's one of the reasons later German helmets were "trimmed" up as well as saving material. As far as ballistic protection, the American M-1 helmet has been proven superior in small caliber tests. It's on UA-cam if you do a search. It is a fact that the American Army in WW2 was the best equipped, most mobile/mechanised, best fed, and healthiest army in history up to that time from boots and bullets, to tooth brushes, to chewing gum. And, the US industrial base was capable of supplying a substantial amount of equipment to allies, plus the country could have fielded another 11 million men easily. Our fortunate geographical position afforded us time to make sure the gear we sent to the troops was the best we could make given the budgets, which were large. The nations of Europe and Asia did not have that luxury, and the Germans went with a very old helmet and boot design - not to mention the old bolt action rifle. By the end of the war, they had switched to an American style boots and semi-auto rifles where they could.
@@OutnBacker Right, The M1 was better for protecting being shot, but because the skirt on the german helmet protected the neck and head it was better for shrapnel. And yes i 100% agree with you that the us had the strongest and most advanced army for that time.😁
I think this goes without saying but these helmets were meant more for deflecting shrapnel from artillery fire and explosives and it’s pretty much known if you get a bullet to the helmet it’s going right through to your skull unless it skims the side. Still, cool stuff!
My friend's dad had an NVA bullet enter his helmet from the left front but it was going at an upward angle and parallel with the left side of his helmet. It followed the inside curve of the helmet all the way around back and came out the right side after doing an almost 180 turn inside the helmet. Unfortunately it entered his right shoulder and messed up his mobility of his right hand. It is almost exactly like Bob Dole's hand if you're old enough to remember who he is. Odd thing though - he was right handed before and had to switch to left handed, and he became a really good artist, having no artistic ability as a right hander. Which is super odd because the left hemisphere of the brain is what controls the right side of the body and is responsible for artistic abilities. But switching to the left hand would stimulate the right side of the brain, not the artistic left side. Just goes to show you how amazing an adaptive our brains are. FYI, he's a retired teacher in his late 60's living the good life and doing art, so turned out good in an odd way. He's one of the nicest, gentlest people you'll ever meet too.
As a soldier who was trained in the use of the very same steel pot helmet, I disagree. US Army, 1976-1980. Boiling water, frying eggs, digging a ditch, clubbing an enemy were all legit uses of the pot. Oh, you could wear it on your head, too! No way in the world that boiling water is going to embrittle ANY grade of steel, let alone the medium carbon steel of the pot. It was made ductile so you could hammer out a deep dent and re-use the thing! The liner is kept dry, but that's so the cotton straps don't rot and the snaps don't rust; the fiberglass liner was water-proof. Do your research, civvies!
I used the steel helmet for a basin to use when I shaved in the base area, I've heard that some folks when up near the Z, were at some base and did not have their mess gear with them, and had to use the steel pot as a mess tin to collect the food, and they did do it, as opposed to going hungry.
@@pirobot668beta it sure was done, but the helmet steel is given specific characteristics when stamped (the plastic deformation is leaving a kind of stress in the material) which make it good at absorbing impacts (what a coincidence ;) ) Heating the pot slowly and making it cool slowly releases that stress, and make it slightly more ductile (you english speaking guys call it annealing) heating the pot (to fry eggs for example) and then putting it to cool quickly into water will again release the inner stress to build a different one, hence changing the helmet balistic-proofness (it's like a shitty uncontrolled light heat treatment). Are these changes enough to make the helmet useless against shrapnel and small caliber ? It depends of how much you heat your steel, for how long, and how much you like to hear the "ppppsssssshh" when you cool it in water. Probably not good because it's not to the maker's specs anymore, but isn't enough to make it really brittle or useless Oh i'm an aeronautical metallurgy Engineer btw, so my source is literally : dude trust me
It is called a helmet liner and you wear it under the steel helmet. This allows the steel helmet to be used for cooking etc. You also use the helmet liner for dress presentations and display.
They write your azs up if they caught you cooking in them. Because that burned off the paint that was toxic then you would eat and Get sick. So we would take one from the arven troops and burn them so they didn't have paint. They told us the helmet was good for washing your socks in the field. And to hold water to shave.
The helmet are supposed to stop small arms fire, grenade/bomb fragments, ricochets or glancing hits by rifles, not dead on hits by rifles or high caliber pistols.
The Vietnamese had The Type-56 AK, and SKS, The SVD, The Type-53 Mosin Nagant, the PPSH, and The TT-33 Tokarev modified to hold 11 rounds instead of 8.
They also had anything they could get their hands on, like guns captured from french, american and south vietnamese troops. So basically any Soviet, Chinese, French or American weapon from WW1 to the Vietnam war era. They also had weapons from the Japanese left over from when they occupied Indochina during ww2.
Regardless of the material, anything with layers will actually be effective. Closer the layers the more effective. Unless the material is brittle like concrete.
Yes, they had 7.62x39 in Vietnam. The NVA, Viet Cong, and other elements of the National Liberation Front made heavy use of SKS and AK rifles like the one you're holding, of course they used 7.62x39 lmao
The liner is not made Kevlar. According to Wikipedia : These liners were made of strips of cotton cloth bathed in phenolic resin and draped in a star shape over a liner-shaped mold, where they were subjected to pressure to form a liner.
Edwin, the liner for that helmet is Nylon, not kevlar. In WW2, the liner was resin duck cloth, then it was changed to Nylon in Vietnam. Not meant to offer ballistic protection but just a lighter, more durable, and modern material for the helmet liner.
well the ballistic nylon liner gave some extra protection, not meant to be weared as a stand alone helmet, but in the video it pancaked the 9mm and 45 acp
The most fun part about these helmet videos is -the material of the helmets is always answered by the comments -and some historic stuff have been said about how in Vietcong they used Chinese aka 47
Italian Police never used that Beretta model, less than less in .32ACP, until the late 70s they uses a Mod.34, which was in cal 9mm short (9x17) or .380ACP, then they moved to Mod92s (M9 in the USA) cal 9x19 Luger. Maybe that Beretta is the same that your grandfather used while in Vietnam along with that helmet ?
That's an 1980s helmet cover, and before someone rogers up, no this cover (Woodland) was not used in Vietnam, you're thinking of ERDL. The liner is not Kevlar, it is only meant to provide a suspension for the wearer..
This boy knows nothing about the vietnam war, that isn't a nam era pot, that's a late 70's M1 RG stampings pot which was made in Canada. The liner is a post war era as well and the cover is the M81 BDU pattern.
The inside helmet is basically plastic and the outer helmet is called a steel pot.....this won't stop a rock.....tour of duty Viet Nam 1/1/67-12/15/67....and lived to tell about it.
That was hilarious! Watched this cause I got a soviet 1970 steel helmet and wondered what it could take. Your video surmised my guess. About what I predicted. But your video was awesome and well worth the watch!
The inner linner (inner hull)is made of bakelite (baquelita, for it's mame in spanish), not keblar or fiber glass. It is to insulate the head from the heat of the sun. Take care guys.
I think the helmet liner was made of fiberglass. Often, the liner alone was used a headgear when it was repainted with a distinctive color and unit symbols. Also, that helmet cover is NOT from Vietnam. That is the reversible Woodland pattern which came out after the War and used in the 70's and 80's. The Vietnam cover was a non-reversible, very light green color with no brown patterns. No part of the helmet assembly was Kevlar.
Hello Edwin, I've seen in a couple of movies that a bunch of grenades are tied or kept together and only pin of a single grenade is pulled out though all other grenades go off together. What's the real life possibility of that. I would love a video on that. Love your videos. Keep making such videos. 💪
Thank you! Was interested in the 7.62 and boy did it go through.....! Great video; shows that in war there is not much sense in wearing an M1 helmet....
The colour of the phenolic resin liners is a clue to when they were made. In WW2 and Korea they have a brown colour, production for Vietnam had the orange colour that the one in the video has and ones made in the 80s are a green colour (and the shape of the liner is also really wonky on the 80s ones).
The m1 helmet was in use from ww2 until adoption of the pasgt the helmet liner was made of either paper fiber with resin or later on with common plastic. Great video, love these tests
“My grandpa brought this back from the war.” 🤣 Yeah right! And my grandpa brought back a naked purple signing leprechaun! And that’s not kevlar that’s fiberglass it’s a liner. A lot of misinformation. Pinocchio needs to keep it real.
In ww2, the liner was made by compressed paper, later in the 1951 the big picture demostrtion of the m1 helmet, the liner was made of plastic and in Vietnam it was made by nylon , not kevlar.
One of my old teachers was in Vietnam and he definitely didn’t steal his helmet when he got out. He brought it to class when we went over the Vietnam war and a ak had hit it at the right spot and deflected. He called it his poker hat
I think the outer shell of th e helmet was meant to protect against shrapnel from an explosion in the area, not specifically meant to stop bullets from a gun.
I wore the same helmet when I was in the army post Vietnam. Like the flak jacket it was for some protection against shrapnel and we all knew it wouldn't stop military ball. We were told that in BCT.
they aren't his grandparents belongings, if you believed this dude you'd think he was shooting a helmet used during the crucifixion of Christ, which of course his grandfather wore
REALITY ORIENTATION: There was no KEVLAR in Vietnam. They first used it for belted tires in 1970. The purpose of the helmet was to stop shrapnel; not a rifle bullet.
The M1 helmet was actually first used in WWII
i mean they had ballistic nylon, and mid to late war pilots were given body armor that was made from ceramic.
@@kevinm2365 no shit
@@ultramarine3527 soldiers were issued body armour but it was rare to see it being worn as it traps in heat and it would be horrible to wear in Vietnam
@@kevinm2365 We know that, they made post war helmets in order to produce enough helmets for Vietnam
Now this is historical reenactment between AK-47 and U.S. helmet
Chỉ cần k54 hoặc tt33 là ok xuyên thủng hết
Anhson Bui English please
I cant tell if Jozsef toth is being sarcastic or not
@@timnguyen2977 k54 and tt33 can shoot throw the helmet
@@timnguyen2977
He said that is the same helmet the us marines wore in the american war of 1965-1975
As a Vietnam vetran l can tell you , the majority of the helmets we were issued , were from the 40's , 50's and the early 60's . The liners were probably not kevlar as aramid (kevlar) was just starting to be used in car tires to replace nylon and rayon in the belting in the mid 60's .
7.62 x 39 was used in the ak 47 and the sks during that time.
Sir, I don't want to disturb you, but can I ask how Vietnam was?
Thanks for the info I was curious about the sks
@@elpibelol5005 nice question. I want to know about it too
The liners were a resin stiffened fiberglass composite, not meant to have any ballistic defense, just to allow the steel pot to sit comfortably on your head. When not in combat you wore the liner. It was the same as used in WWII.
@@elpibelol5005 It was not good my friend was a Vietnam Vet and he told me stories and you wouldn't have wanted to be there.
That's a 1980s M1. These are what they looked like at the end of their service life; woodland cover, quick detach chinstrap, new post-vietnam liners and steel shells made in the last batch in the late 1960s. Typically would have an elastic cat-eye band around it as well.
What I found interesting about the helmet's history is that they say it was shot with a 45. ACP at point-blank range during testing and stopped it. I don't know if it is accurate history or not, but I'm guessing it was fired at the same distance in the video and somehow stopped it. They also say that among US casualties wearing the helmet, 54 percent of rounds that hit failed to penetrate and saved the life of the soldier or saved him from injury.
@@jimmymarsh2489both rounds will go through a car door. Remember that inside a door there are other objects that may stop the round from making a full penetration. Mainly the motor that controls the window.
The cloth part is called the 'cover', the fiberglass or resin part is called the 'liner' and the steel part is called the 'pot'.
After 4 shots to the helmet: "Cabron, this is dangerous!"
9:08 Yes, the 7.62 X 39 round completed development in 1948 and was used in the AK-47 assault rifle by the Viet Cong and North Vietnam regulars throughout the Viet Nam war. The U.S. began this war with the M-14 using the 7.62 X 61 NATO round, but the M16 assault rifle using the 5.56 X 45 round replaced the M14 starting in 1965.
How many wars has your grandfather been in and how old is he? Is he Yoda?
Fred G 😂😂😂😂
Or Pai Mei
Eric Ferguson I was thinking he fought when the Big Bang theory took place probably was a war in itself. 🤣😅
He fought in EVERY war!!!
Highlander
My grandfather was in the war in 1965,and he was also injured. The war had an irreparable effect on him.
They were intended to protect you from flack, shrapnel not direct hits from bullets. Liners were made out of fiberglass and were used as parade headwear and hold the helmet to the head comfortably.
I’m a Vietnam vet from 1972-1973.
Thanks for your great videos.
Still though most steel helmets from that era would reliably stop a single 9x19 or .45 ACP. The US Army had a training video in WW2 that told soldiers to not bother using the .45 ACP on German helmets.
Semper Fi 3/4 Marines
Not fiberglass, ww2 were made of cotton and Vietnam era were made of Ballistic Nylon
Here's a little liner trivia for you. Back in the day you were issued the leather sweat band during basic training, and sized it to your head, and it went with you to wherever you were stationed. The actual helmet and liner would be issued as part of TA50. The sweat band had to be marked with your name and SSN, as did your boots, belts, etc. Never know what part of somebody might be all that's left, so it all got marked. Wouldn't surprise me if the sweat band you have in that helmet was marked with somebody's name and SSN. You could always unclip it, take it out, and have a look.
The cameraman’s commentary is always the best part of these videos.
Probably 😂😂😂😂😂
IM READY!!
The camera man is his dad
YES, I'M READY!
Wouldn’t be surprised if his grandpa was in the revolutionary war
In Vietnam the Viet Cong had Chinese AKs if i remember correctly.
Yup also a very few soviet ak
Type 56s I believe
@@DBZ483 Yup
Also SKS with the same rounds
Also many weapons were captured, and early in the war they even made their own crude weapons like shotguns and submachine guns. The NVA wasn't widely equipped with AK-47's till later in the war, 1966-67
Yes, they were using 7.62 x 39, but it was coming out of an SKS. They did have AK47's but the Vietcong were using Chinese-made SKS's.
The liner of the helmet is made from resin and cotton. The resin is what makes it hard. A lot of times when you see soldiers parading the usually wear the liners instead of metal part of the helmet.this was to refuse the weight.
Reduce* mate
Jack Beacon yes thanks for catching my mistake
I believe these liners were a resin impregnated molded fiberglass. They were not meant to stop anything.
@@masonryan6101 sure mate, btw thx for the info, that was an interesting one.
@@OnTheRiver66 I think though there was some intent to keep the metal from denting too far in.
Que el mexicano hablé en español para los que no entendemos
Que paso
@General grievous no sí eso lo sé pero hay datos que meda pereza esforzarme en traducirlo y cuando escucho al mexicano hablar en inglés pues me pongo de mal humor porque digo: porque no habla en español el man xd
Jaja
Entonces el men que hace el video es mexicano
@@whoarebroyt3801 noooo
Bruh you ruined a legendary helmet
don't worry it isn't a real vietnam helmet. The helmet in the video is a postwar helmet from the 80s.
@@kriegsmarine5806 yeah, the cover in M81, so it's post war.
Steel pot was post vietnam. But liner was vietnam era made in very good condition. So he ruined only liner, but that is sad too for me.
The war ended in i think 1969 and this helmet is from the 1980s so it is post war and therefore not used in the Vietnam War
@@rodrigomegale1338 th- the war ended in '75.
Steel pot comes in one size, while the inner helmet comes in multiple sizes. The inner helmet is the fitting helmet. It was done to cheapen production. One size steel pot fitted with a plastic type liner
Your grandfather was at war everywhere when he got to all the fronts🤣🤣🤣
Yes his grandfather brought back an M16 from WWI!😄
@@romeyburgin7221 lol 🤣🤣
His grandfather fought for the Roman Empire and brought a minigun from that age.
What’s with all the grandpa jokes? This is the second video I’ve seen. Is it an inside joke? Or does he just lie a lot? Lol
@@smokeyveras7235 his grandpa is a time traveler and had fought in every war... Hell he even got the Medal of honour in the Clone War
Thanks to all your Videos. also yes they did use 7.62 rounds in VietNam . M14 and M60. The Nato ammo started in 1953.
The helmet liner is made of fiberglass, Edwin.
According to Wikipedia The inner liner is made out of Phenolic resin olive drab cotton twill fabric stretched over the outside.
That’s a negatory minuteman that’s resin impregnated cotton. Like the person above me explained.
@@Evergreen1400 I wonder which is stronger, fiberglass or resin-cotton.
@@Green_Bullet which is a type of fiberglass. Fiberglass can have many types of fabric as the base. Natural/synthetic fiber + resin = Fiberglass.
Also that helmet liner was in horrible condition
Learned about a new round here today and got to see a helmet get punched clean through. I'd say y'all have earned another subscriber.
"Cabrón this is danger" hahaha.😂
Tienes cara de ser de mexico
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Peligro :)
Confirmó :v
@@Lord-rf4ct no, el apellido Condori es de Perú
I was in the Nam in the 60's The helmet was steel the Liner was fiberglass and yes the 762x39 in the SKS and AK 47 were standard NVA issue. The steel pot was more for pieces of mortar and rocket frags then direct rounds not to mention half cooking your brain in the tropics
The liner was cotton with resin and later plastic not fibreglass
The primary reason of helmets has been to stop shrapnel for years, since world war 1. Some of the only helmets designed to stop bullets and that were actually used are the soviet maska-1 and Altyn from the first Chechen war
In Vietnam We had M16’s that used the 5.56. We also had some M14’s which used a 7.62 Round. Also the M60 Machine Gun used the 7.62 round.
The liner is a resin soaked linen material that's formed under high pressure. Not Kevlar!!
“Welcome tu Vietnaam!!!” Lol😂 you guys never cease to make me laugh.
Lieutenant Dan.
Sounds more like "Vietneeem"
@@echo8474 bxjepenxb xonfokwplzvpkzjpszlxmxmmxmxnx
*Welcome to the ricefields motherfuuu*
Se acercará la potencia de un rifle de aire Sumatra cal25 al de una pistola Cal .22?
"Did they have 7.62 x 39 in Vietnam?"
Me: Shakes head - "Kids these days"
That is exactly what I thought
"kids these days" says the kid himself
@@ocelotrevolver674 Admittedly I'm not old enough (or the correct nationality) to have been in the Vietnam War, but it's a long time since anyone called me a kid!
Same here where have they been. They sadly could figure it out with Chinese soldier’s today.
100 pro ....
That helmet was the best helmet design in the world, and the most widely issued with the German Stahlhelm being a very close second. Both shared excellent side and rear protection from side impact, but the US design was superior in that it had the removeable liner, making the steel sheel into a very useable field bucket. Also, the liner added superior impact absorption and increased preotection from penetration. There are anecdotal stories of direct bullet impacts that were deflected upwards, over th op of the interior space between the shell and liner.
The liner was made of a resin impregnated cloth fiber. Sort of a precursor to fiberglass. It was pretty tough, and allowed the shell to be made in One Size Fits All dimensions. The German helmet came in 5 sizes. Maybe thats one reason the Germans looked so sharp, ay?
The shell was made from "special" steel, called Hadfield steel, which was harder, but flexible to both reists and deflect shrapnel, or small caliber fire, such as from a pistol of those days.
The German helmet was also made of Hadfield steel, but because it wsas not as round it did not defect as well, nor did it have a liner, the suspension being riverted directly to the single wall shell.
The German ww2 helmet was actually the best helmet in the world… WAS the skirt that ran around the helmet protected the neck and head the most from shrapnel
@@Gunsnstuff26 The German helmet is iconic and very good, but, the US M-1 helmet came down the sides as far as the German design as it was adjustable, and almost as far in the rear, but allowed a little clearance in the prone position, whereas the German helmet did not. There are many photos of American soldiers and marines only needing to raise their heads to see forward and many pics of Germans having to bend at the back to do so because of the low flange that blocked the neck. Thus, they often had to put their upper body into jeopardy. That's one of the reasons later German helmets were "trimmed" up as well as saving material. As far as ballistic protection, the American M-1 helmet has been proven superior in small caliber tests. It's on UA-cam if you do a search.
It is a fact that the American Army in WW2 was the best equipped, most mobile/mechanised, best fed, and healthiest army in history up to that time from boots and bullets, to tooth brushes, to chewing gum. And, the US industrial base was capable of supplying a substantial amount of equipment to allies, plus the country could have fielded another 11 million men easily. Our fortunate geographical position afforded us time to make sure the gear we sent to the troops was the best we could make given the budgets, which were large. The nations of Europe and Asia did not have that luxury, and the Germans went with a very old helmet and boot design - not to mention the old bolt action rifle. By the end of the war, they had switched to an American style boots and semi-auto rifles where they could.
@@OutnBacker Right, The M1 was better for protecting being shot, but because the skirt on the german helmet protected the neck and head it was better for shrapnel. And yes i 100% agree with you that the us had the strongest and most advanced army for that time.😁
I think this goes without saying but these helmets were meant more for deflecting shrapnel from artillery fire and explosives and it’s pretty much known if you get a bullet to the helmet it’s going right through to your skull unless it skims the side. Still, cool stuff!
My friend's dad had an NVA bullet enter his helmet from the left front but it was going at an upward angle and parallel with the left side of his helmet. It followed the inside curve of the helmet all the way around back and came out the right side after doing an almost 180 turn inside the helmet. Unfortunately it entered his right shoulder and messed up his mobility of his right hand. It is almost exactly like Bob Dole's hand if you're old enough to remember who he is. Odd thing though - he was right handed before and had to switch to left handed, and he became a really good artist, having no artistic ability as a right hander. Which is super odd because the left hemisphere of the brain is what controls the right side of the body and is responsible for artistic abilities. But switching to the left hand would stimulate the right side of the brain, not the artistic left side. Just goes to show you how amazing an adaptive our brains are. FYI, he's a retired teacher in his late 60's living the good life and doing art, so turned out good in an odd way. He's one of the nicest, gentlest people you'll ever meet too.
Holy shit a bullet flying round the inside of your helmet sounds like a movie scene
According to Wikipedia The inner liner is made out of Phenolic resin olive drab cotton twill fabric stretched over the outside.
The inside was a helmet liner the outside while protecting the head from shrapnel could be used for hygiene shaving and boiling water.
That stuff isn't healthy for the helmet's durability.
Boiling water would ruin the metal and make it very brittle so usually they didn’t do it
As a soldier who was trained in the use of the very same steel pot helmet, I disagree.
US Army, 1976-1980.
Boiling water, frying eggs, digging a ditch, clubbing an enemy were all legit uses of the pot.
Oh, you could wear it on your head, too!
No way in the world that boiling water is going to embrittle ANY grade of steel, let alone the medium carbon steel of the pot.
It was made ductile so you could hammer out a deep dent and re-use the thing!
The liner is kept dry, but that's so the cotton straps don't rot and the snaps don't rust; the fiberglass liner was water-proof.
Do your research, civvies!
I used the steel helmet for a basin to use when I shaved in the base area, I've heard that some folks when up near the Z, were at some base and did not have their mess gear with them, and had to use the steel pot as a mess tin to collect the food, and they did do it, as opposed to going hungry.
@@pirobot668beta it sure was done, but the helmet steel is given specific characteristics when stamped (the plastic deformation is leaving a kind of stress in the material) which make it good at absorbing impacts (what a coincidence ;) )
Heating the pot slowly and making it cool slowly releases that stress, and make it slightly more ductile (you english speaking guys call it annealing)
heating the pot (to fry eggs for example) and then putting it to cool quickly into water will again release the inner stress to build a different one, hence changing the helmet balistic-proofness (it's like a shitty uncontrolled light heat treatment).
Are these changes enough to make the helmet useless against shrapnel and small caliber ?
It depends of how much you heat your steel, for how long, and how much you like to hear the "ppppsssssshh" when you cool it in water.
Probably not good because it's not to the maker's specs anymore, but isn't enough to make it really brittle or useless
Oh i'm an aeronautical metallurgy Engineer btw, so my source is literally : dude trust me
The cevlar looking thing is the liner and the metle part is the shell, the part that protects the soliders head
The cevlar looking part is fiberglass
It is called a helmet liner and you wear it under the steel helmet. This allows the steel helmet to be used for cooking etc. You also use the helmet liner for dress presentations and display.
They write your azs up if they caught you cooking in them. Because that burned off the paint that was toxic then you would eat and Get sick. So we would take one from the arven troops and burn them so they didn't have paint. They told us the helmet was good for washing your socks in the field. And to hold water to shave.
The helmet are supposed to stop small arms fire, grenade/bomb fragments, ricochets or glancing hits by rifles, not dead on hits by rifles or high caliber pistols.
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m1 helmets are not bullet proof, and the liner is not made of kevlar, they were meant to stop shrapnel from nearby explosions
The Vietnamese had The Type-56 AK, and SKS, The SVD, The Type-53 Mosin Nagant, the PPSH, and The TT-33 Tokarev modified to hold 11 rounds instead of 8.
Also arisaka rifles and kar98s (ww2 capture) supplied by the soviets and other communist bloc weapons.
Also AK-47s genuine from tge USSR
They also had anything they could get their hands on, like guns captured from french, american and south vietnamese troops. So basically any Soviet, Chinese, French or American weapon from WW1 to the Vietnam war era. They also had weapons from the Japanese left over from when they occupied Indochina during ww2.
@@Denis-ej9fu NVA mostly had those, but you're right.
AKMs too
You sure that's a Vietnam era helmet? Looks like a post-Nam piece with a Woodland cover (as opposed to the Mitchell cover) and late 70s chin strap.
Regardless of the material, anything with layers will actually be effective. Closer the layers the more effective. Unless the material is brittle like concrete.
Yes, they had 7.62x39 in Vietnam.
The NVA, Viet Cong, and other elements of the National Liberation Front made heavy use of SKS and AK rifles like the one you're holding, of course they used 7.62x39 lmao
M-1's, BAR's, carbines, anything that would launch a bullet.
@@boondocker7964 what does that have to do with the 7.62x39 cartridge?
Helmet: my time has come.
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Mr WOLF ....lol
Lmao
This happened when the helmet saw the .50 AE round ...
The liner is not made Kevlar.
According to Wikipedia :
These liners were made of strips of cotton cloth bathed in phenolic resin and draped in a star shape over a liner-shaped mold, where they were subjected to pressure to form a liner.
The vietnam era hard cap liner was made from ballistic nylon
Edwin, the liner for that helmet is Nylon, not kevlar. In WW2, the liner was resin duck cloth, then it was changed to Nylon in Vietnam. Not meant to offer ballistic protection but just a lighter, more durable, and modern material for the helmet liner.
The nylon switch supposedly increased its ballistic resistance by roughly 15% I think, the simple history video on it talked about it.
well the ballistic nylon liner gave some extra protection, not meant to be weared as a stand alone helmet, but in the video it pancaked the 9mm and 45 acp
The most fun part about these helmet videos is
-the material of the helmets is always answered by the comments
-and some historic stuff have been said about how in Vietcong they used Chinese aka 47
EDWIN with ROCKET LAUNCHER gonna Blew up his House said
" JASPARITO, are u Ready"
JASPARITO : " Yeah im Ready"
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Italian Police never used that Beretta model, less than less in .32ACP, until the late 70s they uses a Mod.34, which was in cal 9mm short (9x17) or .380ACP, then they moved to Mod92s (M9 in the USA) cal 9x19 Luger. Maybe that Beretta is the same that your grandfather used while in Vietnam along with that helmet ?
Early upload. I love it. Keep em coming Edwin!!!!!!
That's an 1980s helmet cover, and before someone rogers up, no this cover (Woodland) was not used in Vietnam, you're thinking of ERDL. The liner is not Kevlar, it is only meant to provide a suspension for the wearer..
Of course it's made out of "some material", most things are.
All things are
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiii4019 always has been.
@@DEV3N87 boom
Your channel is awesome. You guys are both pretty damn hilarious.
Last time i was this early corona was just a beer.
This boy knows nothing about the vietnam war, that isn't a nam era pot, that's a late 70's M1 RG stampings pot which was made in Canada. The liner is a post war era as well and the cover is the M81 BDU pattern.
0:00 POV: You’re a young American soldier in the 60’s
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The inside helmet is basically plastic and the outer helmet is called a steel pot.....this won't stop a rock.....tour of duty Viet Nam 1/1/67-12/15/67....and lived to tell about it.
'66-'67, RVN, yup.
@@boondocker7964 glad you survived bro.....best wishes!
Someone needs to make a movie about the Legendary Exploits of Edwin' s Grandfather. Lol
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The second layer is not Kevlar but actually fiber glass or cardboard in some occasions
Good video! If a pistol caliber is capable of penetrating a Vietnam-era helmet, then the MORE a "rifle round" could produce devastating results!
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Let the flashbacks begin
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That was hilarious! Watched this cause I got a soviet 1970 steel helmet and wondered what it could take. Your video surmised my guess. About what I predicted. But your video was awesome and well worth the watch!
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Lol the camera man is so great. Both of you. Awesome video guys!
I was using this type of helmet in the Norwegian Army in the 80'!
You are correct sir the NVA and the Vietcong used the 7.62mm round as their standard issue of ammunition
U can try to shoot into the helmet of Vietnam call by the name "Mũ Cối"
Lol 😂
:)
And name "nồi cơm điện" in 1990
Mũ cối iis the best
Combo hiyeenf thoại
Those helmets and liners were used in WWII and then Vietnam. Many of the liners still around at surplus stores.
I bet your grandpa looks pretty cool wearing that helmet while he drives his Lamborghini.
The inner linner (inner hull)is made of bakelite (baquelita, for it's mame in spanish), not keblar or fiber glass. It is to insulate the head from the heat of the sun. Take care guys.
esta hecho de nylon balistico comprimido con resina, al menos los gorros duros (liners) de la era de Vietnam
when you're getting shot at in the jungle but they're only shooting at you with makarov pistols
And they only hit your helmet lmao
I had the steel-pot for basic and AIT in the 80s; I'm stunned at how well it stood up. I'd have bet .22 LR would've punched through. Pretty cool test.
the .22lr would not punched through the m1 helmet, but a .22 tcm would easily punch through
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3000:this high titanium bullet molting helmet my grampa brought this from ww5, the 20th century war that wiped out 30% of humanity
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I think the helmet liner was made of fiberglass. Often, the liner alone was used a headgear when it was repainted with a distinctive color and unit symbols. Also, that helmet cover is NOT from Vietnam. That is the reversible Woodland pattern which came out after the War and used in the 70's and 80's. The Vietnam cover was a non-reversible, very light green color with no brown patterns. No part of the helmet assembly was Kevlar.
The Mitchell pattern was reversible
Can you set up a tent on one of those mountains in the desert and start 'SNIPING SUNDAY' and make long range shooting and test all the gun's accuracy.
Yes the vc used SKS rifles and AK-47 both in 762x39.
Hello Edwin, I've seen in a couple of movies that a bunch of grenades are tied or kept together and only pin of a single grenade is pulled out though all other grenades go off together. What's the real life possibility of that. I would love a video on that. Love your videos. Keep making such videos. 💪
Thank you! Was interested in the 7.62 and boy did it go through.....! Great video; shows that in war there is not much sense in wearing an M1 helmet....
The AK-47 was used as well as the 7.62X39
The colour of the phenolic resin liners is a clue to when they were made. In WW2 and Korea they have a brown colour, production for Vietnam had the orange colour that the one in the video has and ones made in the 80s are a green colour (and the shape of the liner is also really wonky on the 80s ones).
8:21 do you remember the guy that thought a book would prevent the bullet from hurting him? Insane
Check out Paul Harrell's video.
@@miriammariarojaslopez1276 it was an desert eagle
The m1 helmet was in use from ww2 until adoption of the pasgt the helmet liner was made of either paper fiber with resin or later on with common plastic.
Great video, love these tests
not plastic. nylon laminate. the only plastic ones i know of are scandinavian euroclones.
@@thurin84 Yes, it was a weave, or cloth made of nylon. A precursor to fiberglass.
“My grandpa brought this back from the war.” 🤣 Yeah right! And my grandpa brought back a naked purple signing leprechaun! And that’s not kevlar that’s fiberglass it’s a liner. A lot of misinformation. Pinocchio needs to keep it real.
It's just a joke on the channel. His grandpa also brought back an ak from ww2
its a running gag
In ww2, the liner was made by compressed paper, later in the 1951 the big picture demostrtion of the m1 helmet, the liner was made of plastic and in Vietnam it was made by nylon , not kevlar.
His grandpa fought in every war
When I got to Vietnam in 1967 (Marine), I was issued an M14. The M14 NATO round was 7.62x51.
Try also Turkish Military Helmet
İ relaised that you did not shoot with 500 S&W. İf you shoot to TMH also shoot with 500
One of my old teachers was in Vietnam and he definitely didn’t steal his helmet when he got out. He brought it to class when we went over the Vietnam war and a ak had hit it at the right spot and deflected. He called it his poker hat
2:30 brother be careful! back up a little bit or shoot behind something we don't want to see you are jasparito get hurt!
That is the liner inside the helmet, you can buy one on amazon for like 20 bucks.
2:56 y do u sound like ur insecure about this bullet
Standard U.S.helmet design from WW2. The inner liner is fiberglass, I think, and is not intended to stop anything.
2:41 "Cabron this is dangerous" JAJAJA
I think the outer shell of th e helmet was meant to protect against shrapnel from an explosion in the area, not specifically meant to stop bullets from a gun.
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Ok
I wore the same helmet when I was in the army post Vietnam. Like the flak jacket it was for some protection against shrapnel and we all knew it wouldn't stop military ball. We were told that in BCT.
I wonder if your grandparents watch your videos... seeing their grandson destroying their belongings lol
they aren't his grandparents belongings, if you believed this dude you'd think he was shooting a helmet used during the crucifixion of Christ, which of course his grandfather wore
原來裡面那層也很重要啊，外層主防，內層減震，真是絕妙搭配！