SSC 2022 - MuteAce (Peach) Vs. Peanut (Little Mac) Smash Ultimate Tournament

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  • Опубліковано 12 сер 2022
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  • @vgbootcamp
    @vgbootcamp  Рік тому +3

    Super Smash Con is still live! Check it out here: "www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp"

  • @theelsanto32
    @theelsanto32 Рік тому +215

    Bruh I really thought peanut had him with that up angled forward smash. He had a hell of a winners bracket run! I was legit pumped every time I saw his name in the thumbnails.

    • @xoskltnandfriends5923
      @xoskltnandfriends5923 Рік тому +4

      Dude stop commenting how it ends 😂

    • @quise1933
      @quise1933 Рік тому

      @@xoskltnandfriends5923bro was was just over your house and spanked you with king d.d.d

    • @mannyisbest
      @mannyisbest 10 місяців тому

      ​@@xoskltnandfriends5923EXACTLY I hate that this is the top comment cuz everytime I press on a video of this is the first comment I see spoiling what happens

    • @CipherKnighto
      @CipherKnighto 4 місяці тому

      Nvm I guess I just managed to luckily completely disregard this comment before putting my phone full screen. I agree with yall

    • @theelsanto32
      @theelsanto32 4 місяці тому

      Sorry guys, didn’t expect to have top comment. Sucks for y’all, but I’m quite happy bout it lol

  • @lyrics2challenged
    @lyrics2challenged Рік тому +94

    "Doing 🥜 solid damage right there"
    *17%*

  • @calebw8189
    @calebw8189 Рік тому +86

    I was not expecting Peanut to make Muteace work so dang hard. Well played (to Muteace as well of course).

  • @thomaslayman9487
    @thomaslayman9487 Рік тому +39

    muteace had to take FULL advantage of every hit he got, and had to work surprisingly hard to take the stocks off peanut offstage, but he did do a phenomenal job of good Mac counterplay
    real good set from both players

  • @cibrinyark339
    @cibrinyark339 Рік тому +18

    9:57 advanced tea-bagging lmao

  • @venusadonis4116
    @venusadonis4116 Рік тому +73

    Peanut is so fucking sick it's unreal, always love seeing him play.

  • @NurseBadTouch
    @NurseBadTouch Рік тому +12

    0:30 actually he was going for a gazelle punch and just misstimed it. Woulda taken the stock

  • @Raziel_HHL
    @Raziel_HHL Рік тому +38

    That could've gone either way to be honest

  • @eltrolololol2563
    @eltrolololol2563 6 місяців тому +2

    I love when peanut does the peanut and nuts all over his opponents.

  • @Unimportant
    @Unimportant Рік тому +6

    Regardless of how good you are at the game, going up against a good Little Mac is really tense. For all the character's weaknesses, his strengths just put on so much pressure that makes it scary to engage.

  • @foxsake6634
    @foxsake6634 Рік тому +3

    The two men w the best hair in the game

  • @Gaudimann
    @Gaudimann Рік тому +19

    Wow, that shows that even a Mac can stand up against a Peach pretty well! Since I know both though, it was nice to see them perform like that!

    • @0MujaKina0
      @0MujaKina0 Рік тому +1

      He still lose!💀

    • @Gaudimann
      @Gaudimann Рік тому +2

      @@0MujaKina0 But it was close.

  • @albertshen1904
    @albertshen1904 Рік тому +43

    Peanut really is something else.

  • @faded9581
    @faded9581 Рік тому +46

    I'm no expert, but it looks like MuteAce just abused float cancel to bait out Peanut's impatience and eventual aggressive option, and reacted accordingly.
    Peach can't stay in the air forever, he should have refrained from pressing any buttons until Peach eventually had to come down from her float or she retreats and puts herself in the corner.
    This seems like a strategy issue on Peanut's part, not at all undoable for Little Mac.
    I'd even say Peanut had inherently superior footsies, Mac frame data notwithstanding. Peach will act like she can camp all day, but if Mac just keeps walking under her she will absolutely be forced to engage.
    These are just my opinions, good stuff regardless.

    • @OblivionZX
      @OblivionZX Рік тому +19

      The main issue with this idea is that most of the time Peanut had more %, so he would always have to eventually engage

    • @admirrad3777
      @admirrad3777 Рік тому +6

      I can't disagree with this take. First off, the commentators noted that at multiple instances Mute was floating at different heights, this was obviously done on purpose.
      Floating at heights close to the ground to bait out options yet still stay out of mac's threat range. Other times it was far higher, higher than mac can hit without a heavy commitment. Mac also never knows when Mute is gonna drift back, or when mute is gonna fall with an aerial, or when Mute is gonna throw down a turnip, or when he's gonna jump or go to a platform or go to the corner.
      Of course it's certainly doable and I agree that the optimal place for Mac to go is right below Peach to threaten Up-B, but Peach still has tons of options that it isn't as simple as wait for peach then corner her, who's to say she is gonna move to a corner? What if she falls ontop of you or hits you with a turnip?
      Mac's initial dash is really long and Mute stuffed out Peanut for trying to get under him a couple of times. Also, Peach only needs a moment on the floor before going straight back to float. While I agree that Peanut should have put more pressure from there. It's unfair to think that this is the biggest problem in his gameplay this set

    • @faded9581
      @faded9581 Рік тому +4

      @@OblivionZX Well what I mean is Mac doesn't have to be pressing buttons to apply pressure. His burst range, both horizontal with his dash and up b are unreactable at close range, so if Mac is walk and follow Peach's float, Peach must engage or retreat, since simply floating with him right under you will allow him to full up air into sharking shenanigans or just up b, both of which Peach couldn't react to.
      Even if Peach goes too high for Mac to catch, Mac needs only wait for the float to end, and then Mute Ace is going to fall down into Mac's arms with no other option than to attack on landing, which loses to like, literally all of Mac's options. Super Armor, parry, dash back whiff punish etc.

    • @faded9581
      @faded9581 Рік тому

      @@admirrad3777 I think that most of the nuance you described in MuteAce gameplay where exploitations of the same essential problem, Peanut's desire to dash and commit first. At 5:42 is practically symbolism for Peanut's flawed gameplan. He dashes in and commits to a callout, which works when he reads properly but often does not because callouts are inherently more difficult and require more information than bait and punish.
      You even mention Mac's inital dash, but Peanut didn't need to use a dash, he can walk, but he choose aggression everytime which can only work when you have sufficient information on their defensive habits.
      Peach does indeed have many mixups out of float, from retreat to turnip to fast fall aerial, but Mac has options to beat all of these. That's kinda his thing. Peanut didn't give himself the opportunity to use these tools, because he choose to commit, rather than wait more often than not.

    • @ArtSnob101
      @ArtSnob101 Рік тому

      If that little Mac side b was refreshable on getting hit I think we'd see way more little macs. It's sad that there are so many characters that just have horrible recovery options.

  • @f4lcxne869
    @f4lcxne869 Рік тому +10

    good job peanut.

  • @s3eriousbl9ck26
    @s3eriousbl9ck26 Рік тому +10

    MuteAce figured out that Lil Mac can't do shit about Peach cheeks clapping in his face. Got Peach looking like a damn jezebel

  • @briang6652
    @briang6652 Рік тому +7

    Peanut could’ve gotten close jab half way and throw more. Often Peach was floating just above him not doing anything so could try to hit high safely

    • @extonjonas6820
      @extonjonas6820 Рік тому +7

      He definitely should have tried it but I think he did not want to go for the obvious bait considering his only option is pretty committal

  • @alsager777
    @alsager777 Рік тому +79

    You have to root for the underdog here.

  • @richa7970
    @richa7970 Рік тому

    Just like in Punch out Wii or next punch out game Nintendo?

  • @Cell194
    @Cell194 Рік тому

    Bro he held shield 60% of the time. He did not condition that well. He could’ve grabbed or broken shield in so many situations.

  • @pimpstick9988
    @pimpstick9988 Рік тому +3

    You wanna see probably the biggest counter match this is it right here 😂

  • @IWish2500
    @IWish2500 Рік тому +52

    Possibly hot take: I’ll root for Little Mac more than any other character

    • @Hbox69
      @Hbox69 Рік тому +6

      How is that a hot take

    • @IWish2500
      @IWish2500 Рік тому +25

      @@Hbox69 No idea honestly, UA-cam smash fans are a weird breed

    • @Hbox69
      @Hbox69 Рік тому +1

      @@IWish2500 wrd

    • @lyrics2challenged
      @lyrics2challenged Рік тому

      @@IWish2500 trueee.

    • @MA_KA_PA_TIE
      @MA_KA_PA_TIE Рік тому +3

      I 100% agree. Peanut stands for every guy who has ever mained a low tier in any game.

  • @viviankong69
    @viviankong69 Рік тому +8

    wish mac wasnt such a lame charather hope in the next smash game hes reworked counterplay is litterally to camp and hope u dont get hit by ko punch....

  • @Moss_Dude
    @Moss_Dude Рік тому +24

    I like how they were commenting on Peanut not being greedy with his KO punch when he's actually greedy as hell and was just trying to do a Gazelle Punch. Later they said he "used a rising aerial to cover a turnip" and yeah these guys don't know very much about advanced mac at all.

    • @willgofast5302
      @willgofast5302 Рік тому +59

      I dont blame them cause advanced mac is less interesting than advanced anything else

    • @extonjonas6820
      @extonjonas6820 Рік тому +1

      How was he greedy? I don't get it?

    • @The_Snailman
      @The_Snailman Рік тому +12

      @@extonjonas6820 I’m not a Mac player, but a gazelle punch is basically a ko punch straight off of hanging from ledge. Usually, it would be counted as an aerial ko punch, but using this tech, you can make it into a grounded ko punch. I heard it’s pretty tricky. The commentators at that moment said that peanut was just trying to go for an aerial Mac punch (he wasn’t). I don’t think peanut is greedy tho; he is quite the patient player. It was just a wrong interpretation on the commentators part, no biggie.

    • @tormint5294
      @tormint5294 Рік тому

      With so many characters I don't blame em

    • @Moss_Dude
      @Moss_Dude Рік тому

      @@The_Snailman I said he's greedy because he often tries to save it for unrealistically long periods of time.

  • @intellectualblackking162
    @intellectualblackking162 Рік тому +5

    That last stock was so bs peanut shoulda had that kill lol buff little Mac to have kazuya power 🤣

  • @MG-je5xq
    @MG-je5xq Рік тому +7

    I say this all the time, I think Muteace loses, on purpose, the first round, quickly adapts and wins.

  • @DarkThomy
    @DarkThomy Рік тому +1

    Y'now what, little mac probably is a very good COUNTERPICK to steal a game away even at high level.
    ...but it might not be worth it to train this much for only that.

  • @squirtleboiz9958
    @squirtleboiz9958 Рік тому +12

    Okay I may be the only one who watched this video because of MuteAce. Nothing against Peanut, but as a Peach main myself I love seeing her get some representation! Peach is awesome!

  • @triceracop9873
    @triceracop9873 Рік тому +3

    No hard feelings in peanut but he basically can't take a stock without KO punch, why does ppl love his gameplay so much?

    • @Osmosis-jy6xp
      @Osmosis-jy6xp 11 місяців тому +2

      They think the more a character sucks the more hype it is

  • @cy1763
    @cy1763 Рік тому +7

    Let’s go Mute!

  • @maple4782
    @maple4782 Рік тому

    This video show me how gay peach really is

  • @hopolapopola
    @hopolapopola Рік тому +13

    always a joy to see a little mac get lamed out 😤

    • @Dylanman99
      @Dylanman99 Рік тому +21

      not a good sign if u have a gripe against little mac

  • @vince615
    @vince615 Рік тому

    This set is an excellent example of why I hate playing competitive smash

  • @Chipbills
    @Chipbills Рік тому +7

    Wow ... little Mac is just so bad, peanut is a good player tho

    • @MA_KA_PA_TIE
      @MA_KA_PA_TIE Рік тому +8

      Yeh but watching peanut thread the needle with Mac is more entertaining to watch than the 100th rob, mythra, wolf etc etc boring stuff.

    • @Chipbills
      @Chipbills Рік тому +1

      @@MA_KA_PA_TIE agree

  • @daytonbenson1203
    @daytonbenson1203 Рік тому +1

    Watching campers and edge guardsrs play is so lame

  • @tristanconn11
    @tristanconn11 Рік тому +1

    smash commentators are so bad.. "muteace out fundying peanut rn"... ummm no, thats just called playing peach

  • @LazyNinjass
    @LazyNinjass Рік тому +3

    He has to put he/him cause because he’s a trans?

    • @MrNocturnalEmission
      @MrNocturnalEmission Рік тому +10

      No it’s because there’s some uwritten social pressure to normalize it for everyone.

    • @lyrics2challenged
      @lyrics2challenged Рік тому +2

      So did anyone actually enjoy the match here?

    • @LazyNinjass
      @LazyNinjass Рік тому +8

      @@MrNocturnalEmission that’s so stupid, if you’re obviously a man or woman it’s useless.

    • @LazyNinjass
      @LazyNinjass Рік тому +4

      @@lyrics2challenged yea it was great

    • @MA_KA_PA_TIE
      @MA_KA_PA_TIE Рік тому

      No it's so everyone can play pretend that an obvious male with penis still affixed is actually a woman or else be shunned for not embracing mental illness. It's also so that ranked 400th male competitors can now be ranked #1 in women's sports and "break new records".
      I think they shun you because if you don't play pretend and along with a person's delusions that person might kill themselves and then that death is somehow your fault even though suicide is when the dead killed themselves. Magically that's your fault not the deceased.

  • @nuibaba280
    @nuibaba280 Рік тому +1

    This game sucks

  • @TheXxKingSlayrxX
    @TheXxKingSlayrxX Рік тому +1

    Mute had to play cringe to win

    • @rank1562
      @rank1562 Рік тому +23

      I’m pretty sure that’s how you play the match up, no?

    • @theexaltedlt8222
      @theexaltedlt8222 Рік тому +1

      Muteace didn't want to take 50

    • @reddwolfe2613
      @reddwolfe2613 Рік тому +5

      Playing properly is cringe now

  • @user-oc6bs1tp6p
    @user-oc6bs1tp6p Рік тому +13

    Isnt muteace gay?

  • @bobert555555
    @bobert555555 Рік тому +6

    Wow, a peach who abuses float to run away from a low tier character instead of engaging in a fight you are still clearly advantaged in. What fabulous gameplay in a major…

    • @tristanconn11
      @tristanconn11 Рік тому +3

      this is the most disgusting peach gameplay.. it got the dub but muteace is so unbelievably boring

    • @sauce8277
      @sauce8277 Рік тому +9

      He’s low tier when you don’t engage him. He’s strong if you engage with him. That’s unfortunately what makes him low tier. Peanut had a good run though. .

    • @bobert555555
      @bobert555555 Рік тому

      @@sauce8277 it’s not the character design that made a difference in this fight, it’s the fact that Mute decided his BEST chance to win was to just camp. Doing this in top 128 at a major tournament is just insulting, both to peanut and to people who want to watch a good match.

    • @sauce8277
      @sauce8277 Рік тому +1

      @@bobert555555 I’m simply acknowledging your first point. It’s not fun to watch, it is what it is, and they are playing for a lot of money being tournaments are over priced these days. Have to do what you have to do.

    • @MoFiTheMagnificent
      @MoFiTheMagnificent Рік тому

      Peanut is a pretty insane lil mac player so its understandable

  • @2Namii
    @2Namii Рік тому +16

    muteace put on the lamest performance of any of the games i watched live.

    • @jonathanlgill
      @jonathanlgill Рік тому +58

      To be fair, against a Little Mac you need to play as safely as possible. I was rooting for Peanut too, but Muteace's play decisions make absolute sense.

    • @thecapitalisticdictator2256
      @thecapitalisticdictator2256 Рік тому +41

      MuteAce litteraly went in on the last game (pretty much a stock up) and almost lost for it. Like you don't play little Mac on his terms, it would be the same as jumping into Kazuya's EWGF for no reason. Call it boring, but I would blame peanut for playing little Mac more than MuteAce here

    • @Ericspil790
      @Ericspil790 Рік тому +26

      Lame? Even if he’s a low tier you have to play in that way if you’re playing to win. That’s how the matchup works

    • @Mentat1231
      @Mentat1231 Рік тому +1

      I don't see how saying "that's the only way to win against Mac" makes it any less lame.

    • @dripfoe_3307
      @dripfoe_3307 Рік тому +14

      Dumb take. Would you box with a gorilla lol. The name of the game is to lame Little Mac out....because he has better grounded normals than Peach hence the result of game 1. The adaptation of game 2 and 3 was to simply get him off stage. Ain't nobody got time for trying to prove themselves by trying to out box Little Mac.....like dafuq.

  • @jeepers3222
    @jeepers3222 Рік тому +20

    Let’s GOOOOO peanut L

    • @eattrees9413
      @eattrees9413 Рік тому +43

      Peanut W

    • @Daniel-uy1sv
      @Daniel-uy1sv Рік тому +1

      @@eattrees9413 ?

    • @jeepers3222
      @jeepers3222 Рік тому +7

      @@eattrees9413 he may have lost the game, but he also lost in our hearts 🥰

    • @shaderu3402
      @shaderu3402 Рік тому +6

      You're really not a Peanut fan, are you?

    • @jeepers3222
      @jeepers3222 Рік тому +4

      @@shaderu3402 correct

  • @hadore152
    @hadore152 Рік тому +1

    Muteace played so lame. This is just boring to watch