Use thicker plates to compress with to combat delamination. Also more bolts for even pressure. And lastly, Polish the plates 120 grit sandpaper is too abrasive. Need to do 200 grit for edge burs, then work way down to 2000 grit. Then clean and stack. Also use neutral toward reducing flame for heating. And when you pull from fire it doesnt hurt to have a way to compress and hold compression on the billet. Like one tiny pump from a manual hydraulic press OR a good snap clamp for welding. The. Tighten your bolts. Then back into the fire. Go slow with it like that
its not gay ney its gah neh moh koo meh gah neh he's a trick for japanese vowels a = ah e = eh i = ee o = oh u = as in boo now we both learned something.
the delam occurred because the forge weld didn't take - use wire instead of the press and then take it back to the forge for repeated heats and hammers to get that to weld to properly take, also monkume gane is copper and nickel because they weld together better than copper and brass.
ALWAYS USE A RESPIRATOR WHILE CUTTING DRY METAL. Approx. 6:15 he breathes in approximately .5g of metal dust. This can cause serious harm. Or death. Always wear and take safety measures first.
Hi, thanks so much for the video. Really instructive. Just one thing about your blade breaking. There is a rule of thumb that you choose your blade according to your material. I was taught that the tpi should allow for about 3 teeth covering your thickness of material. It looked like your blade was more than that. Just my twopenny's worth, but very interesting. Thanks again
30mm, centimetres are for the bloody dress makers! As my teachers would say as an apprentice fitter. Excellent presentation and work though, really informative.
@@Doobrey He is right that you don't need borax, especially for the compression method (no air can get in anyway), but as far as cleaning goes...definitely clean your metals. There is nothing to lose there, and everything to be gained in quality.
This is the first time I have seen or heard of Mokume Gane, looks like a really interesting experiment, I’m going to look this up to see what it’s used for.
Thank you for keeping the volume at an appropriately set decibel range. Can't express how annoying it is to not be able to hear or face to crank it an the way down
Thanks for sharing. This is cool!👍 I learned about something new today. 🙂 Is there a reason you waited to remove the paper until after you cut your pieces as opposed to removing it before cutting?
If your looking for information Steve Midgett has posted his book for free on his website. Mokume.com, under book in the menu. It's an incredible resource and I guarantee it will save you time and money. It covers multiple ways to fire mokume gane, patterning, proper annealing and so much more. He's a master mokume artist and it includes chapters where other artists like James Binnion share their techniques. The book has been out of print for years, copies were going for hundreds of dollars. It has been updated to cover new techniques learned since the original publication. It has been a game changer for me, I haven't had a billet fail since reading it.
Thanks for sharing! I'd not heard of Mokume Gane before watching your video, and it was great to follow allow with your experiment in getting it to weld. Can't wait to try it out myself. Side note: where did you source your borax from? I've only ever seen substitute for sale in the UK, so clearly I'm looking in the wrong places. 😁
Where I live we get borax in the grocery store. It's laundry detergent. If you don't have that luxury, you can also wrap the stack in stainless steel foil from a knife makers supply. Toss a little piece of cloth in with the stack to burn off an extra air inside the package. Don't forget when working with it, anneal it often a work it slowly at first. It's a really interesting process. Good luck with it.
there is a second way of writing the first kanji too, I saw it on a shop in kyoto... hold on. it's Ki (moku, tree) over kou (moku, takumi, craft). Sorry I haven't installed my IME yet.
but to actually clear up the pronunciation: Mo (like more but shorter) Ku (like kooky) Me (like Melbourne) [a small pause here] Ga (like garage but shorter) Ne (like Neptune) all the syllables should take up roughly the same amount of time.
Not entirely true, mokume gane is a mixture of non ferrous metals and can be a combination of these to give different colours and effects. There are some very good books out there that explain all of the combinations .
Use thicker plates to compress with to combat delamination. Also more bolts for even pressure. And lastly, Polish the plates 120 grit sandpaper is too abrasive. Need to do 200 grit for edge burs, then work way down to 2000 grit. Then clean and stack. Also use neutral toward reducing flame for heating. And when you pull from fire it doesnt hurt to have a way to compress and hold compression on the billet. Like one tiny pump from a manual hydraulic press OR a good snap clamp for welding. The. Tighten your bolts. Then back into the fire. Go slow with it like that
its not gay ney its gah neh
moh koo meh gah neh
he's a trick for japanese vowels
a = ah
e = eh
i = ee
o = oh
u = as in boo
now we both learned something.
the delam occurred because the forge weld didn't take - use wire instead of the press and then take it back to the forge for repeated heats and hammers to get that to weld to properly take, also monkume gane is copper and nickel because they weld together better than copper and brass.
Beautiful. 👌💕
ALWAYS USE A RESPIRATOR WHILE CUTTING DRY METAL. Approx. 6:15 he breathes in approximately .5g of metal dust. This can cause serious harm. Or death. Always wear and take safety measures first.
And again at 7 minutes.
IS THAT A RESPIRATOR SITTING ON YOUR BENCH? 👀
😂 good on you for being safe…..
Band saw is hard starting and stopping..... it destroys blades. You can likely find a soft start switch and fit easy enough
Hi, thanks so much for the video. Really instructive. Just one thing about your blade breaking. There is a rule of thumb that you choose your blade according to your material. I was taught that the tpi should allow for about 3 teeth covering your thickness of material. It looked like your blade was more than that. Just my twopenny's worth, but very interesting. Thanks again
Oh!! Great piece of advice on the teeth, thank you :)
30mm, centimetres are for the bloody dress makers! As my teachers would say as an apprentice fitter. Excellent presentation and work though, really informative.
It doesn't need to be clean if you forge it.
I make it all the time, i don't use borax either.
Ohhh, can you share any of your hints and tips. I have always read that it has to be spotless. Very interested if there is another way....
@@Doobrey He is right that you don't need borax, especially for the compression method (no air can get in anyway), but as far as cleaning goes...definitely clean your metals. There is nothing to lose there, and everything to be gained in quality.
This is the first time I have seen or heard of Mokume Gane, looks like a really interesting experiment, I’m going to look this up to see what it’s used for.
i wear my glasses sometimes if i’m not welding and i’m like doing heavy grinding but they fog terribly no matter ehich pair i het
Thank you for keeping the volume at an appropriately set decibel range. Can't express how annoying it is to not be able to hear or face to crank it an the way down
Thanks for this!
Thanks for sharing. This is cool!👍 I learned about something new today. 🙂 Is there a reason you waited to remove the paper until after you cut your pieces as opposed to removing it before cutting?
Heya, the only reason i kept it on, was to reduce finger prints!...OCD AWAY!!!!
@@Doobrey Gotcha'! 👍 That actually makes sense. Gotta do what works best for you. I have many of my own OCD issues. LOL! 😄
If I don’t want the steel plates in the weld, do they have to be cleaned
Hi, could you tell me what the clamp is called? Or where I could purchase these. Many thanks
Sorry had to laugh the intro to this made me chuckle ( mouthfulltounguetwister) brill bud keep them coming
Tanks alot❤
If your looking for information Steve Midgett has posted his book for free on his website. Mokume.com, under book in the menu. It's an incredible resource and I guarantee it will save you time and money. It covers multiple ways to fire mokume gane, patterning, proper annealing and so much more. He's a master mokume artist and it includes chapters where other artists like James Binnion share their techniques. The book has been out of print for years, copies were going for hundreds of dollars. It has been updated to cover new techniques learned since the original publication. It has been a game changer for me, I haven't had a billet fail since reading it.
Thanks for sharing! I'd not heard of Mokume Gane before watching your video, and it was great to follow allow with your experiment in getting it to weld. Can't wait to try it out myself.
Side note: where did you source your borax from? I've only ever seen substitute for sale in the UK, so clearly I'm looking in the wrong places. 😁
Hey Andrew, got it from ebay!!
Where I live we get borax in the grocery store. It's laundry detergent. If you don't have that luxury, you can also wrap the stack in stainless steel foil from a knife makers supply. Toss a little piece of cloth in with the stack to burn off an extra air inside the package.
Don't forget when working with it, anneal it often a work it slowly at first.
It's a really interesting process. Good luck with it.
Your blade broke because it's for wood, You need lots of small teeth rather than few large teeth for metal 👍
Больше половины ролика ушло на то, как запихать пластины, хорошо хоть гайки по одной не закручивал😃🤟
it's pronounced 木目金
there is a second way of writing the first kanji too, I saw it on a shop in kyoto... hold on. it's Ki (moku, tree) over kou (moku, takumi, craft). Sorry I haven't installed my IME yet.
but to actually clear up the pronunciation:
Mo (like more but shorter)
Ku (like kooky)
Me (like Melbourne)
[a small pause here]
Ga (like garage but shorter)
Ne (like Neptune)
all the syllables should take up roughly the same amount of time.
木目金 neat
I always heard it pronounced Muh-koo-may Gone-A.
Makoomai Gauna! Is how it's pronounced
Thank you!!! Probably my accent too!!!
Yes ! Gauna means metal in Japanese like ...Ha Gauna for steel
Isn't that how they say "what a wonderful day" in the lion king?
Better title “how to almost make…”
Тетраборат натрия где?!
Mokume gane is copper and nickel not copper and brass
Not entirely true, mokume gane is a mixture of non ferrous metals and can be a combination of these to give different colours and effects. There are some very good books out there that explain all of the combinations .
Mokume gane can be any combination of non ferrous metal. Golds, silver, palladium and platinum are commonly used in jewelry.
Gay nae ?
Why post the video when the end result is a failure? Waste of time.
Sorry, I disagree. We always learn from our mistakes.....
I'm sorry, the way you pronounce mokume gane is so painfully wrong I just can't finish the video
Mokume gane ( gah nee) the way you say it is badly annoying
Sorry Charlie, it’s my accent !!!
It literally doesn’t matter at all how you pronounce it, we know what you’re talking about. Pronunciation nazis are everywhere