whats going on here with his comment is just a reflection of self being projected instead of owned you have to understand that Football Hooligans are narcisist their disordered people who are deeply in pain they just deny and projected their own aspects of self
Bollox from beginning to end. If it was the FA Cup tie at Highbury, I was at that match on the North Bank with my old man. Millwall was there for about 20 seconds before the old bill took them out down the front. I can’t remember any punches, and as a kid I used to like seeing a row. This geezer should try getting a job on Jackonory .
Embarrassing 😂 full grown men acting like 13 year olds could you imagine going home too your children and telling them you got your face caved in over a football game
Most of them hadn't got children back then. He's referring to back in the late 70searly 80s. Most people he's talking about were only 19/20 at the time.
@@dontfeedthetroll294 i think he means now pal hes got a point tbf jesus it was a good time to be young but its so blown out of proportion its getting embarrasing
@@dontfeedthetroll294 you wrote it pal ,wasnt having a go just isnt clear if that what you were trying to say ,ive read it again and still not convinced but what do i know
I think everybody's taking his statement too literally. Not every football supporter was a hooligan so in reality they only took on the 50 in the crowd that were.
There would be a lot more than 50 in any home end that would have a go and you'd have people that wouldn't normally get involved . Your talking hundreds , they would get destroyed.
@@johnhoward6509 I guess it depends on whether the stewards/cops got involved or not. A few seasons ago a small group of Liverpool fans got into the Stretford End. As the ends are now all seated and the Liverpool lads were in the front row only a small number of home fans could get at them. Very luckily for them the stewards came along and escorted them outside before they got to badly beaten. Without stewards, there would have been deaths!
I attended two of the only four games at Millwall ever played at Arsenal and don't recall any infiltration of Millwall fans on the North Bank. I think he's just making it up
I was there. This is basically true. a few Millwall were in the North Bank. Declared their presence and after a brief scuffle were ejected by Police. No big deal, they did this everywhere. It was a Millwall thing. I was at the Clock end. It was seriously overcrowded and had to get on the pitch with lots of others due to crushing
Except I was at this match if he's talking about when Millwall were in the Old first Division, in the North Bank at the back under the roof and none of that happened.
Been there and got the T shirt. Pleased to put it all behind me now. Still very insightful to hear the different stories and opinions. On reflection I'm just glad that i didnt get seriously injured or injure anyone else, but i did see stuff that haunts me today.
@@muttsnutts1367 I was there that day on the North Bank and I assure you that nothing remotely note worthy happened at that end that day. It was all at the other end
3:45 i think that ginger bob guy is the ginger one from the 1970s milwall documentary, danny dyer interviewed him as well on that documentary he did about football firms
Why don't Arsenal fans ever boast about their firms exploits like most of the other clubs? They did galatasaray who everybody said were top boys and never seemed too concerned about Millwall or West Ham.
Gooners were never seen as a serious firm. Turned up at Stoke a few years back. Made a stand in two locations. Got battered like a chip shop cod in both. Arsenal are the worst firm in London. I've seen harder custard on apple pie.
Dude your a fkin mug you did not click on this just to comment that give it a miss, if you gave it a miss then you wouldn’t have clicked on it you absolute bellend
I went all the millwall arsenal games nothing like that happened only when millwall came and won a replay in the mid 90s and millwall fighting each other in the clock end 😂
To only have 15 fans prepared to take on Arsenal shows that Millwall were not confident and not really up for it. Used to watch Arsenal home and away in the eighties and not into FV myself yet Arsenal often had a few hundred fans in the home ends at a lot of the games I attended..
😂😂😂 no they never. Qpr had a more fearsome firm, arsenal are somewhere around Fulham when it comes to firms, and let's be honest those that know will tell ya that 20 good fulham would ruin 20 arsenal's best 😂😂😂
@@porkchop7652 Anyone in the know will tell you Arsenal were arguably the most feared in the country in the 1980s. I've heard lots of Tottenham and Chelsea say the same. You're obviously a clueless div ain't ya?
Reminds me of Lincoln v Bolton FA CUP... Something similar happened there... Funny I seen the goal keeper that played for Lincoln just tonight... I could tell loads... This gentleman story is good from another point off view tho fact...💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯☝️☝️☝️💯💯💯🤛🤛🤛
Would never have thought this guy was a copper, bet it was very natural for him and I’d imagine he was fairly handy too. Defo did some naughty stuff, they always do
You would NOT take a diabolical liberty like that at Stirling Albion! Our Ultras would tear you limb from limb. Especially when we are at full strength during half-term. 💀💀☠☠
15 Millwall Hooligans Attack 8 Thousand Arsenal Fans 2055pm 7.9.23 the last remnants of the old Norse Valhalla schtick, i feel... but unlike them i am asking myself dont they ever feel a tremendous sense of embarrassment to even consider fighting? it is very very embarrassing.... very... fighting. somehow comical... somehow ffs laden... all that british bulldog crap. but then again it's a different cultural setting and football has always been tribal - if you are of that particular mind-set - whereas i think football towers over all (fussball fussball uber alles! ) whether that's choosing yer team or playing the sport...i mean i can quite easily watch dover play or bury fc... it matters not who is playing.
Same fella who was on some documentary with his pals a short period before millwal played Newcastle in a league Cup match early 80s so everyone knew who he was what a pasting those Millwall lads got that night
It's true mate, I was one of the 15, knocked 7000 out on my own whilst the other 14 lads chinned the other 1000 left overs. As we walked away there was a pile of 8000 bodies all unconscious. Surprised it wasn't on the news to be fair?
Cockneys get carried away watching all of the films that have been made about Cockney hooligans. Eddie Murphy had a stand up routine back in the '80s, about how Italians started getting carried away after watching the 'Rocky' films.
millwall weren't actually all that to be honest,they came to coventry in the 90's and a coachful found a nice pub near to highfield road,the vauxhall tavern..the problem was that the vaux's clientel were mainly jamaican pimps pushers and their hangers on..lets just say most didn't ,make the game...now coventry have never had a notorious footy firm but its always been a rough place to live,some of them decided to stat over in coventry only to get trouble at every pub they went in..in effect they got ran out of town..following city home and away alot in my younger years i hated mobs like oxford or leicester..horrrible away days
Remember the pub well ,one of my uncles drank in there and another uncle ran it for a while .Hillfields was a rough area with rough pubs like the Brewer Baker ,the Ivy Cottage and the Freemasons .
This game was back in the mid to late 80’s I was there at an Arsenal v Millwall game and I’m a Yid lol I saw a small group of Millwall march in the North bank and kicked off straight away
I seriously think he's talking about The week that was - 15th Oct 1977. Charlton 4 Spurs 1 at the valley, Tottenham Hotspur had taken some 25,000 supporters to the match and there was around 10,000 spurs supporters in the Charlton end and around 20 Millwall supporters with the old donkey jackets came out of the middle entrance into the stand and steamed into the Tottenham Hotspur supporters .. HOW DO I KNOW, I WAS THERE . I even went to the Millwall v Tottenham game on boxing December 26th 1977 at cold blow Lane. , Tottenham won 3 - 1 and on the way out , Millwall fans started digging up the pavement slabs and hurling them at Tottenham Hotspur supporters.. The Tottenham song WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM. FROM THE LANE . Came from Millwall, they sang it originally as .. WE ARE MILLWALL / SUPER MILLWALL FROM LANE . Meaning COLD BLOW LANE
He went up tit norf when he was a teen and chased Duffy, cockerill and sykes but they all got themselves put in an adult prison so he couldn't get at them !!
Did you see the men from West Ham and Millwall got togeather to raise money for a little kid with cancer,watch it on UA-cam the ring announcer was shouting on the mic sit down and stop fighting,the fighter's in the ring,were watching the crowd fighting.raised a few quid for the kids treatment tho,bless em☮️
@@johnnygiro5261 one was a British title fight on BT sport and the big story about raising money from a Millwall fan who wore a West Ham shirt! Tbf there could well be another one which I've somehow not seen or someone's just posted it with a made up title 🤷🏻♂️
Just had a quick browse and all clips I saw was from the event I said about. Forget the crowd fight the main event was one of the best fights you'll see!
Andy Nicholls in his book ‘Scally’ recalls when elements of the Millwall F’ troop made their presence known in the Gwlady’s street end of Goodison Park, the home of the supporters of Everton FC. The shout of ‘We are Millwall’ went up and the fists flew, they where game but had bitten off more than they could chew, soon they found themselves on a hiding to nothing and with their backs towards the wall and the pitch they turned, the wise ones hauled themselves up and over onto the pitch and made their escape others kept on fighting a losing battle. He recalled one Millwall supporter turn to climb the wall and that’s when the meat hook went into his back, drawing him back in…football hooliganism and pride where a part of the times, as graphic as it may seem.
I agree - I’m a council estate kid who followed my team in the 80’s - I got stuck in as a matter of honour- I’m now an academic who attends posh dinner parties- we discuss aesthetics , film , books etc but non of my guests ever understand when I describe the sheer adrenaline of old school football aggro - but they are exhilarated by my tales of fisticuffs with the odd homemade Kung foo star thrown in for good measure
Embarrassing that this old man sounds almost proud of his antics. These people shouldn’t even be given a platform to talk about their sub-human behaviour. It’s a game of football ffs you ain’t on the battlefields in a war zone
My friend, I don't care about the title but Jesus has nothing to do with it. Idk you beliefs and please no offense. Did you ever notice the ONE AND ONLY NAME USED IN ANGER IS GOD & JESUS CHRIST. It's blasphemous to just throw their names around. Again friend I mean no harm or offense. If I didn't care I wouldn't have said anything to you. Enjoy your day/night. God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊👍🏻💛
The honey badger of the football violence world,when Millwall football club start winning things thier football fans will stop going berserk everytime they see other football fans 😅
Interesting. All fighting for nothing in the end based off the movies I watched on these situations. This is what happens when the tribe is too big. The lower class tribe fight each other out of boredom and the upper class part of the tribe live in lots of space and lots to do. The thing is with monarchy countries, youll always be a second class citizen compared to the royals... and elites.
Gone are the days of English hooligans. The powers at he cannot allow such strength in numbers. It was too much of a force. Now it’s the prawn sandwich brigade
God all the sad idiots talking trash about us, guys who would have been too terrified to do what working class men have done for centuries when two groups of young men from different places meet, WE fight no killing (on purpose) rules that 90% of the time were followed I.e no weapons no taking liberties when someone is down no attacking anyone with a lady and no attacking shirters (normal fans) yes these rules were broke from time to time especially when hate was involved like us playing West Ham, but otherwise it was fun. I did it for 10 yrs following millwall everywhere, the mates who you mostly only met on match day were as loyal as you could ever find, we at millwall only got on average crowds of between 3 to 5k at home during the 80s yet had a good 250 lads which if you compared to a Chelsea or Man Utd would be if they had 40k home crowds an average of at least 2k lads so we are a tiny club yet were one of Britain’s top hooligan firms, We were rated by others as such because we stood together always you would never run and leave your mates as many people will say from other firms, we lost some but won most everyone loses some times, I don’t care what you or any other soft spoilt kids or men say because this was 35 to 40 yrs ago they days are gone we grew up stopped the fighting and matured had families but never will I regret it they were the best days of my youth, and if you had the guts to do it you would 100% agree, now the middle class and upper middle are taking over our game pricing normal fans out.
I ran football in glasgow ,for fun n buzz when younger but id feel so embrassed talking detail about stuff we done back then .as grown ass man now .. but on so many podcasts you get these grown assed men discussing what done n faces lighting up n loving it . Tryin relive there youth when there in 50s shite ..so toe curling embrassing to watch really is man.. give self shake boys move on with lifes its embrassing n cringy to watch it ...
@@alpha01243 definitely Alex its pathetic grown men reminiscing about being idiots in there youth . I admit I done it myself but certainly wld not be on podcast boosting about for my kids to see ? What are these men thinking off. Pathetic ..id be embrassed talk about what I and guys done back day really would
I remember in the 80s one tottenham supporter done the same thing at Tannadice at dundee utd in the legend goalkeeper hamish macalpines testimonial The spurs supporter tried fisty cuffs in the shed end ( home support at that time) nobody wanted this at Hamish's game. I was thrilled to see Glen hoddle & co up here but as it turned the thug kept all the aggression up & took a kicking in the end. Spoiled a great game which ended one each I recall. I think this "supporter " got lifted in the end & sectioned under the mental health act. Pretty sad.
Snake 🐍 style is the best fighting method for crowded spaces no need to windmill. I would have employed the snake 🐍 style to both hypnotise and strike my opponents
There's a reference to that in the film. Gary and John are the only two to stand their ground, they're seriously outnumbered and still come out of it covered in blood that's not their own and without a scratch. Brings me back to my own casual/hooligan days that I seriously miss and don't at the same time.
The biggest firm I've ever seen over the old den was spurs in the early 70s there first season in the old div 2 ,got to give to them they turned up and had a go
this story is from decades ago...arsenal had a massive and well respected firm. Millwall back then were another level of psychotic, this was the trademark enterance. Go into the home end, sing, fight onto the pitch. i've e heard the exact same story from so many different sets of 1970s fans about Millwall.
@@AnimatedStorytime881 arsenal ain't had a firm since 1970 terry steele, sainty mostly from East London and s e London nothing from North apart from bootsy and the Armstrong twins I know i saw
I assume he's talking about an FA Cup match at Highbury in the late eighties. I was in the Clock End (away end) and saw the Millwall mob surging down the terrace at the other end. It was spectacular and there was a lot more than fifteen of them - at least a hundred if my memory serves me right. They then walked along the edge of the pitch up to the Clock End and jumped over the barriers onto the terrace. The old bill then made the massive mistake of coming mob handed into the thousands of Millwall fans to make arrests and got absolutely battered. They ended up having to retreat, minus their helmets and covered in boot prints and blood. They were lucky none of them got seriously injured. I was at the front of the terrace, not doing anything wrong, and a copper on the pitch tried to grab me so I punched him hard in the face. And there was absolutely nothing he could do about it. 😁
@Robert Exley You must have been looking the other way. It was in the left-hand corner as you look from the Clock End. If you were in the middle somewhere, you might not have been able to see it but I don't know how you could have missed them all walking along the pitch.
Love to hear the "old school". Can remember Leeds coachload going in the Stretford end back in the day.. Most good firms did similar things.Had a few "offs" myself back in the day.Old bill generally won though. M.O.T.
And ???? That makes them what hard lol 😂 Put just one in the ring or cage against an amateur boxer kick-boxer or mma fighter and we will see how tough they are then 🤦🏼
Yeah but at football in England you havent really got to fight, just run a few steps throw a chair aaaand retreat!.........unlike in Eastern Europe or as you say in a cage.
These kinds of people aint in control of themsevles by fighting other people their giving their power away and dont know it its behavior raised from fear and trauma they all have a war going on within themselves and untill they end the war within their allways be a battle going on outside of them mirroring back their trauma in the forms of what others people say and do cuasing them to become triggered a high ratio of these types of people end up in jail for murder their insane you got to be wired up wrong or insane not to see the bigger picture and see it for what it is
I just don't get the mentality of football hooligans, I don't actually think there is a mentality, or a thought or an idea. It is literally the bottom end of the gene pool. A backward primal thing. It's never about the football. I witnessed it at a game back in the early 90s between Middlesborough and Sunderland. My mates are big Sunderland fans, I went for the experience, the minute we got off our minibus and walked towards the away end we were attacked by a couple of hundred Middlesborough fans. We ran for our lives, my mate tripped over and lost his glasses, I ran back for him and just grabbed his arm and legged it with the others. The worst thing I saw was a dad running with his young son on his shoulders, he got jumped by three guys and they battered him even with the kid there. I haven't felt fear like that before or since. It was just mindless violence for no other reason than these guys getting an adrenaline high.
@@Boomshanker484 I'm not a soft arse liberal snowflake, far from it. I just don't get that kind of thinking. It's a total waste of energy, I'd be embarrassed having to tell someone outside of that circle that I did that on a weekly basis.
I was actually at that game as a 12 year old in 1988 I think,yes in the bottom right corner of the north bank the home end, there were Millwall I remember a huge explosion then it kicked off,don't forget it was a different era and people,it was a dark cloudy 3pm and an evil atmosphere waking to the ground,Millwall jumping over the home end turnstiles,arsenal evened things up with them on Highbury fields after the game as they were at their peak around that time,different era
Click the link to watch the full interview ua-cam.com/video/eQKdNxvL6o4/v-deo.html
Is it normal for an undercover old bill to be more impressed by football hooligans than the average 13 year old Danny Dyer wannabe?
Millwall boys screamed like girls at Walsall FC and ran like off greyhounds....they lived that day
A grown up Jay off the inbwtweeners. Yeah well there was 8000 of them 🙄🤣🤣🤣
They should just quit the nonsense and come out the closet and be happy ffs
He was not lying...I was there. I also remember 20 of us at Chelsea in the west stand taking on the headhunters who crapped themselves
@@charlesstolworthy219 yeah I’m sure you were Charlie 🙄
@@iseeyoutoo7899 I for sure was...we are real fans not like many....
@@charlesstolworthy219 yeah yeah! Bet you’ve never even been in a fight lad
The irony when he calls the police thick and stupid because they want to fight...
To clarify thats James Bannon, a cop who was undercover in Millwalls firm. The clip out of context makes him look like another hooligan
Pathetic 😒
whats going on here with his comment is just a reflection of self being projected instead of owned
you have to understand that Football Hooligans are narcisist their disordered people who are deeply in pain they just deny and projected their own aspects of self
You obviously have never met the TSG Greg.😂😂
Bollox from beginning to end. If it was the FA Cup tie at Highbury, I was at that match on the North Bank with my old man. Millwall was there for about 20 seconds before the old bill took them out down the front. I can’t remember any punches, and as a kid I used to like seeing a row. This geezer should try getting a job on Jackonory .
Totally that. I was there too. This bloke is a BS factory
@@robertexley5193yep,me too. F troop? Don't make me laugh. 😂
Embarrassing 😂 full grown men acting like 13 year olds could you imagine going home too your children and telling them you got your face caved in over a football game
Most of them hadn't got children back then. He's referring to back in the late 70searly 80s. Most people he's talking about were only 19/20 at the time.
@@dontfeedthetroll294 i think he means now pal hes got a point tbf jesus it was a good time to be young but its so blown out of proportion its getting embarrasing
@@paulbarrett22 And considering neither was I what's your point. I'd have thought it was obvious as I clearly referred to the 70s and 80s.
@@dontfeedthetroll294 you wrote it pal ,wasnt having a go just isnt clear if that what you were trying to say ,ive read it again and still not convinced but what do i know
@@dontfeedthetroll294 the picture literally has grown men I’m refraining too it in general
He tells it like he's a war hero 😂
I think everybody's taking his statement too literally. Not every football supporter was a hooligan so in reality they only took on the 50 in the crowd that were.
There would be a lot more than 50 in any home end that would have a go and you'd have people that wouldn't normally get involved . Your talking hundreds , they would get destroyed.
@@johnhoward6509 I guess it depends on whether the stewards/cops got involved or not. A few seasons ago a small group of Liverpool fans got into the Stretford End. As the ends are now all seated and the Liverpool lads were in the front row only a small number of home fans could get at them. Very luckily for them the stewards came along and escorted them outside before they got to badly beaten. Without stewards, there would have been deaths!
I attended two of the only four games at Millwall ever played at Arsenal and don't recall any infiltration of Millwall fans on the North Bank. I think he's just making it up
Have you ever heard of the BBS?
2 of the four could of happened in the other 2
@@daemontargaryen6757 your muscular profile pic just screams "I'm trying to over compensate for something"
I was there. This is basically true. a few Millwall were in the North Bank. Declared their presence and after a brief scuffle were ejected by Police. No big deal, they did this everywhere. It was a Millwall thing. I was at the Clock end. It was seriously overcrowded and had to get on the pitch with lots of others due to crushing
Did you also have trials for West Ham as a kid?
No.
The way he explains it all in graphic detail 😂 so proud of his achievment in life
He was undercover police
Except I was at this match if he's talking about when Millwall were in the Old first Division, in the North Bank at the back under the roof and none of that happened.
Ginger Bob 😆 that had me absolutely creasing! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think he got knighted for his services in Millwall. Sir Ginger Bob is a great man
I'm Chelsea but know ginger bob well and he's good stuff
@@aaronsmith5056you another Liar
This fella should begin every one of his replies with the classic opening four words, “Once upon a time...”
Been there and got the T shirt. Pleased to put it all behind me now. Still very insightful to hear the different stories and opinions. On reflection I'm just glad that i didnt get seriously injured or injure anyone else, but i did see stuff that haunts me today.
James interview's Pinocchio
PC pinnochio
I didn't miss many games in those days, never seen this fella before
He's probably changed a little bit....
@@lionheart4552 hes a bullshit merchant,
Ginger Bob tells a different story.
@@CARLIN4737 ginger Bobs still trying to eat a steak
He was in the away end.. 😂
“The Sergeant” 😂 grow up.
They're like big kids
he's talking about his police sergeant that was undercover with him
He was undercover police officer and the sergeant was immediate superior.
If that's the case then he comes under the two kinds of 🐷 he mentioned
Oh ok, I jumped to conclusions
One of west hams favourite songs in the 70s and 80s was "thank you very much for the northbank arsenal"
another one of their favourite songs was “e i adio we took the shed” 🤣
In a world of his own this Walter Mitty
I was in the North Bank that night and yes a few shouts went out and punches were thrown briefly but it was nothing , This Geezer is an embarrassment
Night???
The game he's talking about was an FA Cup game played on a Saturday afternoon.
@@muttsnutts1367 I was there that day on the North Bank and I assure you that nothing remotely note worthy happened at that end that day. It was all at the other end
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3:45 i think that ginger bob guy is the ginger one from the 1970s milwall documentary, danny dyer interviewed him as well on that documentary he did about football firms
Why don't Arsenal fans ever boast about their firms exploits like most of the other clubs? They did galatasaray who everybody said were top boys and never seemed too concerned about Millwall or West Ham.
See wiv us Arsenal we don't need to shout were there were ready eie
EIE
Gooners were never seen as a serious firm. Turned up at Stoke a few years back. Made a stand in two locations. Got battered like a chip shop cod in both. Arsenal are the worst firm in London. I've seen harder custard on apple pie.
Total fantasist it never happened you melt and yes I was there.
@@garycox1780but Cardiff smashed every one of your pubs up around the stadium and no one stopped us?
I've never understood people who fight over football. I'll give this one a miss pal.
Why do people skydive?
@@bubz3t136 ridiculous argument/comparison
Coming from down under i have never understood why people brawl and fight over a game of soccer we dont get these problems in rugby league.
He's an undercover cop. He was working to eliminate hooliganism
Dude your a fkin mug you did not click on this just to comment that give it a miss, if you gave it a miss then you wouldn’t have clicked on it you absolute bellend
Isn't there any footage from?
I went all the millwall arsenal games nothing like that happened only when millwall came and won a replay in the mid 90s and millwall fighting each other in the clock end 😂
If you could believe that they would do well in doing that you have never had a fight in your life
Keep up the great work
I once went though the whole of arsenal on my own , knocked the lot out ! .
@eddie mclaughlin
He also pumped his own brothers Mrs
Seen that in Viz comic - even Billy the Fish must have run away - you are a hero my friend.
And the arsenal fans were pulling there chest hairs out
I'll get you a 🍩
@eddie mclaughlin Was just about state that myself
To only have 15 fans prepared to take on Arsenal shows that Millwall were not confident and not really up for it. Used to watch Arsenal home and away in the eighties and not into FV myself yet Arsenal often had a few hundred fans in the home ends at a lot of the games I attended..
😂😂😂 no they never. Qpr had a more fearsome firm, arsenal are somewhere around Fulham when it comes to firms, and let's be honest those that know will tell ya that 20 good fulham would ruin 20 arsenal's best 😂😂😂
Arsenal never had a big hooligan following like spurs or chels Utd leeds etc but they did have a good firm an were no pushover
@@ExpensiveTalk I meant more the average fan was up for it more than arsenal. Chelsea did fair share of vandalism
Listening to guys like this takes me back to the halcyon days of
Jackonory.
@@porkchop7652 Anyone in the know will tell you Arsenal were arguably the most feared in the country in the 1980s. I've heard lots of Tottenham and Chelsea say the same. You're obviously a clueless div ain't ya?
The Spartans have nothing on these lads 🤥😂
😂😂😂
The Spartans must be shiteing themselves from their graves 😂
So I bent over to tie my shoe and missed my cruise ship...two days later I hear the ship hit an iceberg and sunk..how wild is that?”
Was the film I.D actually based on this guy?
Looks decent again James. I am enjoying your content.
This story inspired the film 300😂
Course they did 😂😂
Reminds me of Lincoln v Bolton FA CUP...
Something similar happened there...
Funny I seen the goal keeper that played for Lincoln just tonight...
I could tell loads...
This gentleman story is good from another point off view tho fact...💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯☝️☝️☝️💯💯💯🤛🤛🤛
Would never have thought this guy was a copper, bet it was very natural for him and I’d imagine he was fairly handy too. Defo did some naughty stuff, they always do
Well done , you must be so proud of yourself
Pretty sure this man was an undercover policeman.
@@davidmcnulty8181 he was
He refers to his sergeant at the start. He wrote a book about it.
You would NOT take a diabolical liberty like that at Stirling Albion! Our Ultras would tear you limb from limb. Especially when we are at full strength during half-term. 💀💀☠☠
15 Millwall Hooligans Attack 8 Thousand Arsenal Fans 2055pm 7.9.23 the last remnants of the old Norse Valhalla schtick, i feel... but unlike them i am asking myself dont they ever feel a tremendous sense of embarrassment to even consider fighting? it is very very embarrassing.... very... fighting. somehow comical... somehow ffs laden... all that british bulldog crap. but then again it's a different cultural setting and football has always been tribal - if you are of that particular mind-set - whereas i think football towers over all (fussball fussball uber alles! ) whether that's choosing yer team or playing the sport...i mean i can quite easily watch dover play or bury fc... it matters not who is playing.
So was it in the North Bank or the Arsenal away end???
He a great man undercover cop respect that what his book called ⚽️
Who remembers Millwalls Harry the Dog from the 70s
He tried to take Bristol Rovers home end on his own. The very definition of an absolute nutter.
Harry the Dog was an Imperial Japanese Navy Kamikaze pilot who was reincarnated and reborn in South East London.
@@misdangered4326 😀
Same fella who was on some documentary with his pals a short period before millwal played Newcastle in a league Cup match early 80s so everyone knew who he was what a pasting those Millwall lads got that night
He died an alcoholic in the 80s.
Arsenal don’t have hooligans their fans sit still sipping champagne 🍾 or are to busy taking selfies
They had a good firm when it mattered ,just because they don’t chat bull like some other firms .UTV
Arsenal did back before the 80s
They had probably the best firm in London early 80s
@@clario2178 exactly he’s probably some armchair fan
@@Kangarillapig I’d have to say that was West Ham ,but we Villa had some proper battles with Arsenal
That blokes told this story many times
Lot of you not clocking this fella was undercover police inside Millwall firm
15 fought 8 thousand 😂 fuck me, outnumbered but we always stand our ground😂 what aload of bollox
You know that never said so much tosh 😂 been watching Zulu too much
It's true mate, I was one of the 15, knocked 7000 out on my own whilst the other 14 lads chinned the other 1000 left overs.
As we walked away there was a pile of 8000 bodies all unconscious.
Surprised it wasn't on the news to be fair?
Cockneys get carried away watching all of the films that have been made about Cockney hooligans. Eddie Murphy had a stand up routine back in the '80s, about how Italians started getting carried away after watching the 'Rocky' films.
@@bubz3t136 northerners just get sparked out
millwall weren't actually all that to be honest,they came to coventry in the 90's and a coachful found a nice pub near to highfield road,the vauxhall tavern..the problem was that the vaux's clientel were mainly jamaican pimps pushers and their hangers on..lets just say most didn't ,make the game...now coventry have never had a notorious footy firm but its always been a rough place to live,some of them decided to stat over in coventry only to get trouble at every pub they went in..in effect they got ran out of town..following city home and away alot in my younger years i hated mobs like oxford or leicester..horrrible away days
Remember the pub well ,one of my uncles drank in there and another uncle ran it for a while .Hillfields was a rough area with rough pubs like the Brewer Baker ,the Ivy Cottage and the Freemasons .
10 thousand Millwall 😂 they dont get that at home let alone away, Highbury never give 10 thousand tickets to any away team even in FA Cup
This is like that scene in ID
What a waste of time, the fellas a right tool.
and then he woke up, 8 thousand onto 15 what a load of bollocks.
Didn't try it at Upton Park ?
I think I heard a Corey Feldman interview coming soon?
Get Thomas Doherty on your show real fighter who did not use weapons straight up black belt who beat all the Turks
Millwall are not to be messed with
This game was back in the mid to late 80’s I was there at an Arsenal v Millwall game and I’m a Yid lol I saw a small group of Millwall march in the North bank and kicked off straight away
I seriously think he's talking about
The week that was - 15th Oct 1977. Charlton 4 Spurs 1 at the valley, Tottenham Hotspur had taken some 25,000 supporters to the match and there was around 10,000 spurs supporters in the Charlton end and around 20 Millwall supporters with the old donkey jackets came out of the middle entrance into the stand and steamed into the Tottenham Hotspur supporters ..
HOW DO I KNOW, I WAS THERE .
I even went to the Millwall v Tottenham game on boxing December 26th 1977 at cold blow Lane. , Tottenham won 3 - 1 and on the way out , Millwall fans started digging up the pavement slabs and hurling them at Tottenham Hotspur supporters.. The Tottenham song WE ARE TOTTENHAM SUPER TOTTENHAM. FROM THE LANE .
Came from Millwall, they sang it originally as ..
WE ARE MILLWALL / SUPER MILLWALL FROM LANE .
Meaning COLD BLOW LANE
15? Hah. Ronnie Pickering would have gone in alone
who?
@@isleofwhites9845 RONNIE FOOKING PICKERING!!!!!
@@isleofwhites9845 Ronnie Pickering 😙😂😂😂
@@John-oe8uq oh him , I have heard of that legend . Still alive too after 1078 street fights in awe landan tan ! Hes the hardest man in history.
He went up tit norf when he was a teen and chased Duffy, cockerill and sykes but they all got themselves put in an adult prison so he couldn't get at them !!
Football violence is utterly pointless. Firms and firms of lads who are up for violence, could put their energies to far better use
Doing what. Most are thick as sh*t. Look at Leach, Marriner and Pennant.
"The sergeant, " ffs!😂... yeh mate!!
This fella was at school with Kenny Dalglish Snr
Did you see the men from West Ham and Millwall got togeather to raise money for a little kid with cancer,watch it on UA-cam the ring announcer was shouting on the mic sit down and stop fighting,the fighter's in the ring,were watching the crowd fighting.raised a few quid for the kids treatment tho,bless em☮️
You've just literally put two totally different things together and made one complete lie 🤣🤣🤣
@@charlierich4267 mate on here search West ham Millwall charity event boxing.
@@johnnygiro5261 one was a British title fight on BT sport and the big story about raising money from a Millwall fan who wore a West Ham shirt!
Tbf there could well be another one which I've somehow not seen or someone's just posted it with a made up title 🤷🏻♂️
Just had a quick browse and all clips I saw was from the event I said about. Forget the crowd fight the main event was one of the best fights you'll see!
@@charlierich4267 millwall raising money for a westham boy is 100% true
Andy Nicholls in his book ‘Scally’ recalls when elements of the Millwall F’ troop made their presence known in the Gwlady’s street end of Goodison Park, the home of the supporters of Everton FC. The shout of ‘We are Millwall’ went up and the fists flew, they where game but had bitten off more than they could chew, soon they found themselves on a hiding to nothing and with their backs towards the wall and the pitch they turned, the wise ones hauled themselves up and over onto the pitch and made their escape others kept on fighting a losing battle. He recalled one Millwall supporter turn to climb the wall and that’s when the meat hook went into his back, drawing him back in…football hooliganism and pride where a part of the times, as graphic as it may seem.
At least Millwall didn't use weapons that day, not like the dirty scousers. So brave!
One ended up in Walton hospital I think his lung was punctured what ever possessed millwall to think that they could take Everton's gwladis street
@@happyhornet1000 but they did on other days
@@happyhornet1000 behave yourself- Millwall happily used weapons
I agree - I’m a council estate kid who followed my team in the 80’s - I got stuck in as a matter of honour- I’m now an academic who attends posh dinner parties- we discuss aesthetics , film , books etc but non of my guests ever understand when I describe the sheer adrenaline of old school football aggro - but they are exhilarated by my tales of fisticuffs with the odd homemade Kung foo star thrown in for good measure
Millwall is a top club.
From the big book of "Things that never happened"
8 thousand, how the funk do you know? waffle
Embarrassing that this old man sounds almost proud of his antics. These people shouldn’t even be given a platform to talk about their sub-human behaviour. It’s a game of football ffs you ain’t on the battlefields in a war zone
He was an undercover copper... That's the whole point of this podcast 🙄
He’s under cover OB
@@delanodegenie6970 even worse. He shouldn’t come across as if he’s glorifying it, which to me, he is. Fair play though he had me convinced 😂
@@delanodegenie6970 😆 🤣
@@alpha01243 the dense f00tie appears! 🐙
What an absolute child.
That title is a winner 🏆🏆 bare moneys broo
miss conception they didnt fight 8 thousand they fought 4 or 5 others jesus get the title right
My friend, I don't care about the title but Jesus has nothing to do with it. Idk you beliefs and please no offense. Did you ever notice the ONE AND ONLY NAME USED IN ANGER IS GOD & JESUS CHRIST. It's blasphemous to just throw their names around. Again friend I mean no harm or offense. If I didn't care I wouldn't have said anything to you.
Enjoy your day/night.
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊👍🏻💛
@@misska7535 Amen 🙏🏻
That bloke from Miami casuals would have emptyed the Arsenal end and kept the match ball ⚽😂🤣
Who big Diablo 😂
@@teddybruckshott7145 yes mate that's him ✨🍻⚽👑✨
He's a legend. As thick as 20 planks, but still good for a laugh.
At the time it was what you looked forward to every weekend home and away now I cringe at the thought 50 years later.
...but i bet you still miss the bridge house and the rejects...
The honey badger of the football violence world,when Millwall football club start winning things thier football fans will stop going berserk everytime they see other football fans 😅
Football casuals are embarrassing
If you’re still doing it past the age of 30 then it is ridiculous.
Would prefer this to knife and gun crime
@@drn3081 Nah nah you joking you know how many poor random fans had there faces opened up with a Stanley blade you'd not be saying this.
@@walterwhite3143 25*
@@walterwhite3143 No its not
Interesting. All fighting for nothing in the end based off the movies I watched on these situations.
This is what happens when the tribe is too big. The lower class tribe fight each other out of boredom and the upper class part of the tribe live in lots of space and lots to do.
The thing is with monarchy countries, youll always be a second class citizen compared to the royals... and elites.
Just like all these little rude boys with knives and guns
Very true fella
well thanks for stating the obvious
If were second class what are you
And Republics don't have 'elite classes' I suppose?
Get a grip you bean, talking utter shite 😅
The Nevillle...that day. Millwall game as fuck. Proper disorder....
Thee Internet has a lot to answer for......" THE WALTER MITTY HOUR"🤔🤦♂️
Gone are the days of English hooligans. The powers at he cannot allow such strength in numbers. It was too much of a force. Now it’s the prawn sandwich brigade
Christ what utter tosh.
God all the sad idiots talking trash about us, guys who would have been too terrified to do what working class men have done for centuries when two groups of young men from different places meet,
WE fight no killing (on purpose) rules that 90% of the time were followed I.e no weapons no taking liberties when someone is down no attacking anyone with a lady and no attacking shirters (normal fans)
yes these rules were broke from time to time especially when hate was involved like us playing West Ham, but otherwise it was fun.
I did it for 10 yrs following millwall everywhere, the mates who you mostly only met on match day were as loyal as you could ever find,
we at millwall only got on average crowds of between 3 to 5k at home during the 80s yet had a good 250 lads which if you compared to a Chelsea or Man Utd would be if they had 40k home crowds an average of at least 2k lads so we are a tiny club yet were one of Britain’s top hooligan firms,
We were rated by others as such because we stood together always you would never run and leave your mates as many people will say from other firms,
we lost some but won most everyone loses some times, I don’t care what you or any other soft spoilt kids or men say because this was 35 to 40 yrs ago they days are gone we grew up stopped the fighting and matured had families but never will I regret it they were the best days of my youth, and if you had the guts to do it you would 100% agree, now the middle class and upper middle are taking over our game pricing normal fans out.
😅stop it you pipe
Sad, old pathetic man 😅🤣😂
The saddest part is you think this without even being embarrassed looool bet you’re a proper mouthbreather
This is the under cover cop who got in with the millwall firm - looking forward to this
I think He's the walter mitty opps I mean the guy who they based the film ID on
Wahts his name
@@mister_M. James Bannon
I ran football in glasgow ,for fun n buzz when younger but id feel so embrassed talking detail about stuff we done back then .as grown ass man now .. but on so many podcasts you get these grown assed men discussing what done n faces lighting up n loving it . Tryin relive there youth when there in 50s shite ..so toe curling embrassing to watch really is man.. give self shake boys move on with lifes its embrassing n cringy to watch it ...
English please
Thank you. It’s so embarrassing
@@alpha01243 definitely Alex its pathetic grown men reminiscing about being idiots in there youth . I admit I done it myself but certainly wld not be on podcast boosting about for my kids to see ? What are these men thinking off. Pathetic ..id be embrassed talk about what I and guys done back day really would
Im an arsenal supporter up the arsenal ❤️
I remember in the 80s one tottenham supporter done the same thing at Tannadice at dundee utd in the legend goalkeeper hamish macalpines testimonial
The spurs supporter tried fisty cuffs in the shed end ( home support at that time) nobody wanted this at Hamish's game.
I was thrilled to see Glen hoddle & co up here but as it turned the thug kept all the aggression up & took a kicking in the end.
Spoiled a great game which ended one each I recall.
I think this "supporter " got lifted in the end & sectioned under the mental health act.
Pretty sad.
That's what following a bunch of losers like spurs can do to a man..
Anyone going to Tannadice to watch fitba should be sectioned 😂🏴
Ach ! No at that time united won things at this point in history
X
Now however ???????
Snake 🐍 style is the best fighting method for crowded spaces no need to windmill. I would have employed the snake 🐍 style to both hypnotise and strike my opponents
Okay Gareth
There's a reference to that in the film. Gary and John are the only two to stand their ground, they're seriously outnumbered and still come out of it covered in blood that's not their own and without a scratch. Brings me back to my own casual/hooligan days that I seriously miss and don't at the same time.
Who did you follow
Cringe.
@@EscapereaIity Yeah you're dead right your mother giving birth to you after getting nonced by her own brother is cringe.
Please tell me you’re like 13 years old are something? Surely you can’t be a grown ass man with that mentality
Yep...if you stand your ground in place off running....the blood is mostly the others !!! hehehe the good old days
You've got to respect the amount of balls or booze Millwall had, 15 on 8,000 is crazy!
The amount of stupidity you mean.
It’s jackanory
Are you really that gullible ?
i was there anb its bullshit the police was there waiting for them and pounced on them immediately
@@martinhowarth81yes. Yes he is.
Got to be honest which clubs took the old Millwall end at the den ? Be it for a few minutes or the whole game ?
West Ham in 1972 was the only club to attempt it, Harry Cripps testimonial, it was a blood bath.
@@Busybee65 Really ? Delve deeper mate.
The biggest firm I've ever seen over the old den was spurs in the early 70s there first season in the old div 2 ,got to give to them they turned up and had a go
@@nickclark5932 There was another decent firm who got in there and shocked them around the mid eighties.
chelsea went into cold blow lane with two different mobs around 77’ i guess
Every away team went in to the Arsenal Northbank that’s where the kids was
Are Arsenal hooligans good fighters or not that good?
Aftv got better
Who the hell cares
We like football cause our team is entertainment
this story is from decades ago...arsenal had a massive and well respected firm. Millwall back then were another level of psychotic, this was the trademark enterance. Go into the home end, sing, fight onto the pitch. i've e heard the exact same story from so many different sets of 1970s fans about Millwall.
@@AnimatedStorytime881 arsenal ain't had a firm since 1970 terry steele, sainty mostly from East London and s e London nothing from North apart from bootsy and the Armstrong twins I know i saw
I assume he's talking about an FA Cup match at Highbury in the late eighties. I was in the Clock End (away end) and saw the Millwall mob surging down the terrace at the other end. It was spectacular and there was a lot more than fifteen of them - at least a hundred if my memory serves me right. They then walked along the edge of the pitch up to the Clock End and jumped over the barriers onto the terrace. The old bill then made the massive mistake of coming mob handed into the thousands of Millwall fans to make arrests and got absolutely battered. They ended up having to retreat, minus their helmets and covered in boot prints and blood. They were lucky none of them got seriously injured. I was at the front of the terrace, not doing anything wrong, and a copper on the pitch tried to grab me so I punched him hard in the face. And there was absolutely nothing he could do about it. 😁
Big man
🧢
I was on the North Bank and no such thing happened. All the bother was at the Clock End
@Robert Exley You must have been looking the other way. It was in the left-hand corner as you look from the Clock End. If you were in the middle somewhere, you might not have been able to see it but I don't know how you could have missed them all walking along the pitch.
Ooooh so proud of you. Did you have your stone island blouse on to look extra hard?
What a Div
Love to hear the "old school".
Can remember Leeds coachload going in the Stretford end back in the day..
Most good firms did similar things.Had a few "offs" myself back in the day.Old bill generally won though.
M.O.T.
Never happened
🤣🤣🤣🤣...a coach load of Leeds in the stretford end🤣🤣..and then you woke up!...Leeds never came to o/t til escorts were brought in!😅👹
And ????
That makes them what hard lol 😂
Put just one in the ring or cage against an amateur boxer kick-boxer or mma fighter and we will see how tough they are then 🤦🏼
yawn, if youre so hard go on King Of The Streets and prove it bruvva
Yeah but at football in England you havent really got to fight, just run a few steps throw a chair aaaand retreat!.........unlike in Eastern Europe or as you say in a cage.
Fackin love you Gumbo
When something looks like bull shit, sounds like bull shit and smells like bull shit… it normally is bull shit.
These kinds of people aint in control of themsevles by fighting other people their giving their power away and dont know it its behavior raised from fear and trauma
they all have a war going on within themselves and untill they end the war within their allways be a battle going on outside of them
mirroring back their trauma in the forms of what others people say and do cuasing them to become triggered a high ratio of these types of people end up in jail for murder their insane you got to be wired up wrong or insane not to see the bigger picture and see it for what it is
I just don't get the mentality of football hooligans, I don't actually think there is a mentality, or a thought or an idea. It is literally the bottom end of the gene pool. A backward primal thing. It's never about the football. I witnessed it at a game back in the early 90s between Middlesborough and Sunderland. My mates are big Sunderland fans, I went for the experience, the minute we got off our minibus and walked towards the away end we were attacked by a couple of hundred Middlesborough fans. We ran for our lives, my mate tripped over and lost his glasses, I ran back for him and just grabbed his arm and legged it with the others. The worst thing I saw was a dad running with his young son on his shoulders, he got jumped by three guys and they battered him even with the kid there. I haven't felt fear like that before or since. It was just mindless violence for no other reason than these guys getting an adrenaline high.
Tribalism
Oh Dear...... adrenaline is good for you, didn't you know?
@@tankthelord1178 not that kind.
@@Boomshanker484 I'm not a soft arse liberal snowflake, far from it. I just don't get that kind of thinking. It's a total waste of energy, I'd be embarrassed having to tell someone outside of that circle that I did that on a weekly basis.
@@Foldy435 ok
This is BS. 15 Millwall would of got mullerd proper against 7 thousand Arsenal. The numbers are very very over exaggerated.
theres not much gets past you david
Only a few people can actually hit you in these situations. I found that out doing security at a festival, so it's not like it seems
15 is an exaggeration, 5 millwall is usually enough to run the gunners
I was actually at that game as a 12 year old in 1988 I think,yes in the bottom right corner of the north bank the home end, there were Millwall I remember a huge explosion then it kicked off,don't forget it was a different era and people,it was a dark cloudy 3pm and an evil atmosphere waking to the ground,Millwall jumping over the home end turnstiles,arsenal evened things up with them on Highbury fields after the game as they were at their peak around that time,different era
Your right there was only 10 Millwall 😂