Minority Report, Lost in Adaptation ~ Dominic Noble
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- A comparison of Steven Spielberg's 2002 film Minority Report and the 1956 short story by Philip K Dick its based on.
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Apologies if you were expecting The Thing/Who goes there. Had to change the schedule last minute.
That's alright man, just take your time with it. The Thing is pretty Amazing.
We can wait a little long for one of the greatest Sci fic horror film ever made.
keep up the good work man
@@jamesknighton4489 just hearing John Carpenter's Main theme For The Thing makes me wonder with fear and Terror.
You should check out the anime Psycho Pass, similar setup, but better execution and look into a Utopian(?) dystopia of psychological control.
I was so glad to see this upload on my day off!
Vomiting on his cake... and also the cake is made of beeeees!
I died laughing at that part!
Same here! 🤣
i'm going to use that all the time now
Pffft 😂
I laughed way too hard at that line!
Funny thing, as you mentioned how the film predicts some future tech and has a lot of product placement, when I rented the DVD of the movie ages ago, there was a special featurette on it that discussed how Spielberg approached a large number of companies to contribute ideas on possible technology to include in the movie, under the agreement that their involvement would come with product placement in the film. So a lot of the things they got right were right because it was stuff the companies were already developing. In a way, Minority Report was almost like the Epcot Center of films.
Like the Xbox Kinect.
Or the coming soon portion of a VHS tape lol
What new technology was Guinness promoting?
@@Ettrick8 Guinness's parent group Diageo owns a bunch of other companies. Now days it's all alcohol brands but it used to own other things including at one point Burger King so who knows what it had back 2002
I think my favorite scene was when Cruise and Farrel in the elevator. Farrel is smug smile says "you wouldn't kill me or the alarms would go off". The alarm goes off and Farrel's face drops like he crapped his pants. It was a well done scene
I was thinking the exact thing when I rewatched it three weeks ago, for such a subtle moment, it was my favourite scene in the entire movie, good catch!
question
“is there an opposite to having your cake and eating it too?”
answer
Yes the phrase is biting your nose to spite your face
"Biting your nose to Spider Face." Michael Scott
Don't know if the phrase is slightly different in other countries but, in the US, the phrase is usually "cutting off your nose to spite your face" rather than "biting off your nose". I would assume the reason being that it's kinda hard to bite off your own nose...
@@SwiftFoxProductions o ya that's rite my bad
Precogs: "You will murder this man in a few days."
Anderton: "Okay. I'll move out of town for a week."
Haven't you heard of "An Appointment in Samarra"? The victim must surely travel to the other town you go to!
@@clownpendotfart aka you can't escape fate.
But if they kill someone else before they are to kill said person, it proves their system also fails!
Honestly the entire concept is so weird. If they do stop the crime how do they know it would have happened to begin with? If you CAN stop it, then it's not an accurate prediction system.
@@davidbodor1762 That's covered in the movie with the famous ball falling scene. Just because you stopped the ball from falling doesn't mean it wasn't going to fall. Probably my favorite scene from the movie. ua-cam.com/video/IVGQHw9jrsk/v-deo.html
Wait a minute... My Hero Academia hadn't come out yet in 2002! Plothole!
It two different time traveling Doms.
😆wow
@@WithScienceAsMySheperd Lol What? I know that, I wasn't trying to say PKD stole from My Hero Academia or anything, I only meant the skit where he was supposedly coming out of the theater after having watched the movie and he was wearing a My Hero Academia shirt.
@@WithScienceAsMySheperd I don't even know what he _could_ be implying came from MHA. Unless there's a precog hero stopping future crimes in a manga-only arc, there's not any significant overlap.
DING!
As far as the old/new eyes thing; he needed his new eyes to get past all the scanners he'd encounter before reaching the lab. He only needed his old eyes for the lab but the new eyes to escape detection before then.
It's a little weird they crop so much out of short stories, they have the perfect amount of material for a film.
shadowscribe well, the thing is they don’t have enough for a feature length film, so they have to heavily change the plot for it to work
@@legathar8558 Dunno... Imposter was pretty close to the original story...
@@jeebuschristos8423 There are exceptions to every rule, Jeebus. In general, a combination of length, lacking literature's temporal freedom, and using the strengths of a visual medium render a straight adaptation of literature to film...not _impossible,_ but definitely not a good idea.
I like how short stories inspire adaptations with their own particular plots. In this case both are interesting and entertaining stories.
Nah, like others have said most short stories are too short. Novellas are closer to the perfect length. For example The Shawshank Redemption and Stand by Me, which were both from the novella collection Different Seasons by Stephen King.
The movie never explains how pre-crime can go national with only three pre-cogs. It's also annoying that they fail to remove Anderton's security access from the police, not once but twice.
However, I will say about Tom Cruise that he's impressively one of the few actors to have success across four, soon to be five decades. That's Jimmy Stewart/Henry Fonda level success in Hollywood.
My own headcanon was that Burgess wanted to expand the program nationwide by literally manufacturing new pre-cogs. Some stronger version of the drugs that caused the pre-cog mutations in the first place, being distributed to random homeless or otherwise hapless citizens, making them into pre-cogs in the process. Without them having to be born with the pre-cog mutation, as the three young people were.
I know this is a three year old comment, but - just wanna say as someone who has worked in a Secret facility in the military, you'd be horrified how often security protocols are skirted when anythings happen. We had a guy lose his clearance due to a drunk driving incident off base and yet he was allowed to handle Secret material because he was vouched for by his supervisor.
It happens more often than anyone cares to admit without a few beers.
The scene where they fight in the car is being built is an odd scene Alfred Hitchcock always wanted to try to,lake work. You would be following on assembly line, seeing a car built from scratch to finish, and as it rolled off the line, the door would open and a dead body would roll out… Hitch was never able to figure out how to make it work, so I think they slid it in here to throw a bone to film buffs..
It’s a little nod to the famous book Hitchcock/TruFFaut
But, silly?
Yes… Yes, it is.
I got a creeping dread that they intended to specifically recreate the circumstances of the precogs' birth, an undisclosed number of times.
@@ZemplinTemplar My idea was far less sinister. I thought that murder is basicaly eradicated because only ones that (don't) happend are passion crimes commited out of emotion / circumstances (I E the husband who almost killed his cheating wife). There's no premeditated murders OR they are reduces to small number. So maybe... Burgers was convinced that if Pre-Crime was made national others suposed to be killers / murderes just resign... xD Sounds naive but... It was my headcannon back in the day when movie came out...
1:23 Dominic then took himself on a date, decided he liked himself enough to be friends and he still is to this day. Dates don't always endup with bf/gfs, friends are nice too.
Also Dominic ended up paying for dinner but it was ok as Dominic helped paying for gas so they could drive themselves back home.
Over a year has passed and I still think this comment wins the internet.
@@searchingfororion Sweet my first internet. I wonder where I should put it...
@@ACEYGAMES "This location accentuates the shapes and angles... However, an item of sentimental value is perhaps more appropriately placed in a predominant location where it will be easily and frequently viewed and admired."
...did.... Did you write Dom-cest fantiction???
@@ishanshah7521 Based on his videos, he did it first.
One thing that I always really liked about the film version was how the murder plot dovetailed together neatly. Anderton's murder of Crow WAS premeditated - just not by Anderton!
I always liked the aesthetic of this movie. All the tech seemed believable (well, short of the psychic mutant bathtubs).
Oh what I wouldn't give for a Sick-Stick
What I never understood is why it had a flush button? Obviously the guy who maintained the tank/precogs was freaking out when Tom Cruise did that (and no one knew where the drain went) so...
It obviously wasn't meant for route cleaning.
Did Cruise paint it on ala "The Mask"?
I agree. Though whil I think that the wooden balls with the names of the perpetrators and victims look cool as hell, they are also somewhat dumb in context
@@searchingfororion In case they shat the water? I really wondered where their pee/shit went, as they had no apparatus to collect those (AKA, tubes inserted into their buttholes/penises/pussies). On that note, how are they fed?!? The Matrix podcells are more realistic than those precog bathtubs.
"Did no one in the police department object to that?"
Yes, the entire police department not objecting to one of their own doing something that is obviously illegal. Very unrealistic indeed....
Wish that were less true
I did not think much, if anything at all, about police corruption in 2002. Having watched shows that put police in a positive light, I once thought, "Police can't be this dumb." Now, I can say they can be as incompetent and corrupt as the agents in the film.
@@addemac5353 police are mostly bullies from school but with a badge..granted, not all are stupid & quick to violence but quite a few are.
I think they say somewhere that they know she can walk and talk on her own, but part of being hooked to the computer involves keeping them super doped up on all kinds of drugs since their visions are more accurate when they are semi-comatose
I can't remember which reviewer said it (I suspect it may be The Nostalgia Critic), but there was the suggestion that the unbelievable happy ending was a product of the protagonist's mind whilst he was in his prison coma, given the creepy warden was deliberate to mention that in the coma "all your dreams come true"...
Spoony
@@weirdotzero7065 ahhh, thanks. I always confuse that one asshole with that other asshole.
I think that’s another one for the “Ash Ketchum is in a coma, Count Olaf raped Violet, and Scott Pilgrim is a serial killer” list.
@@jackaylward-williams9064 Well YOU explain why Ash doesn't age or achieve anything with his life??
bluemidgit by that logic, Spongebob Squarepants, Dennis The Menace, Bart Simpson, and a whole host of other cartoon characters are also in a coma. Cartoon characters just don’t progress.
The movie doesn't say the precogs can't make other accurate predictions only that only murder predictions are 100% accurate.
One wonders how they tested that ... (And if someone attempted to cheat during those tests ... )
Well if you think about it, murder predictions aren't 100% accurate based on the entire concept of them stopping it before it happens. If you CAN stop it, it can't be an accurate prediction.
The plotholes you mentioned aren't actually plotholes. They all have very clear in-universe explanations.
- Burgess is introduced as an established trustworthy mentor figure for all of the principal characters, so of course they wouldn't suspect him until his guilt was revealed.
- Since it turns out that the whole precrime project was founded on willful abuse of the precogs, the people involved in taking Agatha back probably didn't care that she was capable of functioning on her own.
- Since the precogs were drugged to give off the appearance of being nonresponsive, their precognitive functions were lessened. Notice that Agatha doesn't start predicting everything right away as she's unplugged, only after she'd been out and about for a while.
I was going to say- even the people who had some moral objections to the abuse of the precogs wouldn't speak up about it since a majority of the people probably view it as for the "greater good". Like "Yeah, we're abusing these three people, but look how many lives we're saving!"
@@coreyhand3138 3 people who would have been dead if it was not for the treatment they got. Without precrime those 3 people would never exist. Also it's mentioned that they where in the milk bath for 10 year so I doubt anyone would really think those where people at the end of the day.
In the movie and tv show the public was also lead to believe that the precogs where supper happy and living their best life and was willing helping humanity. The public believe that they are treated like gods when in reality they where in hell.
13:43 - he switched his eyes so the retina scanners that work everything in that world won't recognize him _before_ he gets to the police station. He'd be picked up before he ever got near the place.
THE CAKE IS MADE OF BEEEEESS
Quick! Vomit on it!
The movie is relatively good despite being “in name only”. It was when Spielberg still had some magic in his films and Tom Cruise hadn’t gone mad with power over his films yet either. I’m sure the author himself would’ve disliked the film, but could have liked it instead.
However “Blade Runner” is the clearly superior adaptation of a Philip K. Dick story even if it’s vastly different. He did approve the final script & was supportive of the footage he had seen prior to his death; I wonder what he would’ve thought of the final product that was a massive failure before we got the definitive cut in ‘92 or ‘07
That's so cool about Bladerunner and PKD. I hadn't known that! I'll have to have to read up on that.
I think the tone of the BR adaptation is much closer to PKD books. Whit the whole dark and grim setting and not so happy ending.
Minority report is the better movie imo.
Blade runner is more important though
Oh no, not the bees! NOT THE BEES!!
I really hope you do a Lost in Adaptation of A Scanner Darkly. It's my most favourite Philip K. Dick story and also probably the most accurate adaptation of a story of his. Plus the completely rotoscoped nature really lends itself to the themes covered in it (namely mind-altering drugs, dissociation, and paranoia).
I mean come on you really think the POLICE would object to violating human rights? That's their bread and butter! Basically it's in their job description.
Vomiting on his cake and the cake is made of BEES!
This might be my favourite line
Edit: someone else made a very similar comment but I didn't see it before making my comment.
I saw this movie on a date and I was in a state of 'this is the worst choice I could have made' the whole time. It was waaaay darker and creepier than I was expecting.
This was the last film I watched before getting glasses. The eye motif throughout the film is thus a particularly fun for me.
I remember when Spoony reviewed the minority report game, that he mentioned a theory that the ending was alittle too happy. That it all started to get better for MC right before he entered the coma machine. What if all the ending was just a dream in the MC's mind and he was still hooked up to the machine
Goodness your multiple selves sketches are always so GOOD. Your timing is witchcraft. How do you do that!?
Terrence and a Time Turner
Watch Moon if you haven't.
Not sure if it is the name change, however, UA-cam finally notified me that you uploaded something
It notified me too, but I wasn't sure who Dominic was, and thought it odd he look like The Dom.
@@Carewolf He announced the name thing a while ago ^^
@@alexanderpohl9277 I know.. Just didn't see it until it poped up as a notification ;)
They fixed the bell (supposedly)
Hey Dom! I really appreciate all of your videos. I have ADHD and it makes reading and especially finishing books, absolute agony and almost impossible for me. But I love stories and literary analysis and I want to be a film director someday!! So videos like yours open up a whole world of stories and accurate looks at books that would usually be extremely inaccessible to people like me, (because videos are way more effective as a storytelling format for people with ADHD, at least for me anyway, usually I'm limited to whatever the movie adaptation ends up being 🙄) and you put them into a manageable attention getting and keeping format that is digestable in a meaningful way! There are so many stories I would have never gotten to hear or experience before without the work you do on these, and I just wanted to let you know the effort you put into these videos makes a world of difference. 😁
Hmm that’s interesting cause as another person with adhd I can read whole books for hours especially if I’m on my meds I’m an avid reader and video watcher is it possible that adhd manifests itself differently in different people or
Keeping myself distracted from life by watching Dom
He`s very good to watch for that. Sounds like you might be going through something tough, and if you are, I'm sorry. I know I'm just a random internet stranger, but hugs if wanted.
@@OverdramaticAngel Thanks, appreciate it. And true, Dom is very comforting to watch
Aren't we all?
I clicked in this video so fast it's as if I saw it coming 🤔
*(Holds up hand)* I have the book, its on the shelf next to me. It also contains the short stories that were adapted into the movies Total Recall, Screamers and Imposter
@@richmcgee434 I also have a copy of Rendezvous with Rama and Lord of the Rings next to my copy of Minority Report... also there are a bunch of other short stories in this book, some of which are weird to say the least
@@richmcgee434 In the foreword to Minority Report, it rather tellingly mentioned how Dick would go one weekend long writing benders, fueled by amphetamines and cranking out dozens of short stories. I'd say his work has lots of great ideas, but the stories themselves couldn't really be adapted straight from the source... I mean unless you'd really like a movie about a man who turns into an amorphous blob for about twelve hours a day and who's wife is actually an amorphous blob who takes on a human form(Oh To Be A Blobble) or the one about a group of product testers, checking out various offworld made toys that have varied sinister effects (War Game)
Phillip K Dick is the unrecognized go to for Hollywood sci fi
Also worth mentioning is the anime series"Psychopass" directed by Gen Urobuchi, which was heavily inspired by "Minority Report" to the point of almost being an in-name adaptation itself. That is, except perhaps for the naval gazing pretentious introspection, because Gen Urobuchi.
*sees you have a MHA shirt *
Ah. I see you too are a man of culture. BD
For YEARS, I had a faint memory in my mind of watching a movie (or part of it) that had some sort of "predicting crime before it happened" element in it (that was the only part I distinctly remembered). Thank you for finally unfogging that stupid memory of mine!
Also, thanks for Lost in Adaptation in general, it's one of my favorite things to watch! :D
Nice! You and Lessons from the Screenplay both out put out videos on this movie today.
Is it an anniversary or something? Damn Precogs!
I saw that as well. Both had interesting points
I was spooked and felt out of the loop lmao
Having started to read pkd’s work, I’ve come to the conclusion that he is the Steven king of sci fi: his work cannot be translated to film without serious changes due to the presentation or the mechanics of the worlds he creates.
I also loved that the guy making the mindreading equipment(and persumably others in the society) saw the precogs like holy figures.
2002 flashback but a t-shirt for a 2014 manga.
It's a time traveller!
@Studio Autio it's at 1:24
It's one of the Doms from the Total Recall reviews.
Since you've asked to comment: loving that purple shirt, you look great in it
Its genuinely my favourite colour so I'm biased, but you do! :)
I remember being a little kid and this film ramdomly airing on national television in my country with some of the adults in my family absent mindedly watching it. The visual of the bald pale psychics on a pool whispering about murder about to be commited and the police using it stuck with me, but I didn't see the movie from the very begining and you couldn't just rewind it or click on the remote to show the title back then so I never thought I'd have this movie come back into my life so thank you for that :)
I don't know how I missed it the first time, but the bit about vomiting on his cake and the cake is made of beeeeeeees made me laugh out loud so hard and long it made my throat hurt 😂😂😂😂😂
A perfect explanation of everyones' feelings on the Minority Report film.
Yeah, it's alongside Always as the Spielberg films so "ehhhh...." that no one even remembers he made them.
Thank you for the great episode!
I LOVE this movie. We rewatch it regularly. While it’s not in my top 10 FAVORITES, it is definitely on my list of movies I come back to the most.
I need to rewatch this movie one of these days.
I love love love this channel! What an incredible amount of work goes into every video!
I didn't even know I needed this, but I was so hyped when I saw it pop up in my recommended list!
I like the theory for the film that SpoonyOne pointed out where the final act of the film didn't really happen, and it was just the result of Anderton being in that mental coma while imprisoned.
If you called the movie Echos instead of Minority Report, it would be a lot easier to figure out what is going on.
The jetpack/car factory action sequence is the most Spielberg thing I’ve ever seen.
Saw you on my recommendations yesterday, glad to have found you !! Carry on !!
I really like both stories. The book is an interesting thought experiment, and the movie has good action justified well by the premise. I like mysteries in general, though.
Great video. Always loved the film and need to check out the story. Thanks for your hard work and research.
how have I never found your youtube channel before.
I love your comparisons between the book and movie.
Thank you for making these videos.
time to binge watch some of your videos of movies/books i've watched/read.
Besides this and Monster's Inc both solidifying the "kindly old mentor" trope in my head, this movie also stuck with me for that scene when all the ads are calling out to Anderton. I like using it whenever we discuss the complications of overly "helpful" personalized marketing tech
Awesome video. I'm one of those few people who put this in their top 10, glad to see you cover it.
I've had a bad day and I honestly can't describe how much I needed this
I'm actually really excited to watch this, one of the assignments my writing class did in high school was actually about comparing the short story and the film which we watched in class. It was one of my favorite assignments!
Dom I love your work. Please keep it up. I watch your channel all the time and love the reviews
Great idea for a channel. Well done. Exactly the sort of thing I'm nerdily into. And presented and shot very well. Congrats.
You're magnificent, my beautiful reviewer. Always watchable and entertaining. I'm gonna go read Minority Report and Philip K Dick stories now...
Comenting to let you know I enjoyed your review (and to make the algorithm happy)
Can't wait for more PKD lost in adaptation. Good work!
They didn't actually predict those technological developments.. I saw a behind the scenes video, apparently Spielberg really wanted everything to look as real or as plausible as can be, so the producers did quite an extensive research into future technologies that were currently in development, cranking them up a notch - for example the idea of cars driving perpendicular to the ground was inspired by the magnetic levitation train in Japan (bullet train).
I actually think I'm impressed more by this then by the notion of them predicting everything by chance =P
I enjoyed this movie, but my favorite part? When they view the crime scene screens and move them around on that hologram board? The music that's playing... is Schubert's Unfinished Symphony. Someone did that on purpose. It's awesome.
I had an awful day at University. Thank you. Just Thank You!
I love your show. Thank you
Interesting review man.
Looking forward to the next LIA. It's gonna be cool :)
Good review, I actually had a scifi/fantasy writing class in highschool that did a lesson on this book/movie adaption. If I remember right it was a lesson of taking ideas form one source and using them to tell a different story with the same core
Couldn't even finish the word Episode! Good job, Dom. Great editing. 😂
Ah, remember watching this in high school as part of a film class. Never read the book, though, but I should fix that soon.
You really should - it's excellent.
If I had the power to do so, I'd look 76 years into the future when The Winds of Winter is finally released
Only 74 to go, that rejuvenation treatment GRR was wasting his time on ... Oops can't say more, invest in monkey glands and frog livers
@@bendorlinhg6180 *takes mental note* frog livers you say....
It's been a spell since I watched this movie but I do recall that I was surprised that Colin Farrel went through the whole movie without his Irish accent slipping through his American one he is doing. lol It's a thing I do when I watch anything with Farrel where he's in a role that he's got to mask his natural brogue. The reason I do this is because when he does slip up, it's never subtle. lol I mean it's like *BAM!* , oirish brogue en yer fol'kin fa'hce! lol
Thank the bastard son of a thousand inmates, a new Dominic Noble video! I am truly blessed!
Great Job!
I never did like the name of the title. To me "The Minority Report" sounds more like a political commentary show you would watch on Evening PBS or C-Span.
That classical piano intro 👏☕
"no one seems to truly hat this film" Confused Matthew would like a word
Already subscribed. Always happy to see your stuff!
another solid good work
Nice job Dominic. You do good work.
this movie and edge of tomorrow are his best sci-fi movies
Oh god, THIS is the film with the robot spiders that gave me nightmares for months when I was 9? I've spent a decade and A HALF trying to remember what that was actually from!
I remember when you mentioned this movie way back when and was curious about it ever sense. Very neat video.
This is actually one of my favorite Spielberg movies. And it's also home to one of my favorite fan theories: This film's ending gets a lot darker if you consider everything happening past Anderton's arrest to be just a figment of his imagination.
Also known as "the most boring way to interpret any story"
Minority Report is one of my all time favorite movies and definitely my favorite from Spielberg! I just love this film to death. It looks so awesome and the story is just heart crushing... So many great scenes. Oh, and the car!
Your recap of the story is amazing, because it is rather complicated. I think the film adaptation of this is severely underrated.
I remember seeing this in my teens as well. It’s one of those movies that really stuck with me. I’m surprised how much I remembered about this movie, despite seeing it 15+ years ago.
I'm gonna have to read that book. It sounds far more interesting than the movie. I like the idea of precognition adjusting itself according to the "criminal's" knowledge of the situation, eventually becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"And the cake is made of beeeeeessss!" Love it!
The Good Omens adaptation on Amazon is worth watching. It really was lovingly done.
Your videos are always worthwhile. This one is no different. ^^
Josephine Hammersley
That ending is absolutely terrible. Is that in the book, because I’d consider picking it up if it isn’t.
@@someguy4405 No, the book's ending is ambiguous. Neither of Up There or Down There's reactions to Aziraphale and Crowley's betrayal exists, aside from Adam's edict(s). It's additional, but it does answer the burning hypothetical most readers have had since the book came out.
Josephine Hammersley
But Adam turning good, defeating the four horsemen and Satan with the power of friendship, etc. Are those in the book, because that stuff is what really killed the show for me.
@@someguy4405 Try the book out. It is much grayer and nuanced. Both the book and show are respective commentaries on philosophies. It isn't the power of friendship that saves the day, it is each child's fundamental belief in opposition to the Old ideas. I do like their expression of beliefs a bit more in the book, but the adaptation still makes sense to me.
Josephine Hammersley
Ah yes, old ideas like war. Large scale conflicts are such a thing of the past 👀
Also, isn’t pestilence still a thing? Did they really need to modernise it into pollution when horrible diseases are still at large? Doesn’t pollution still count under the broad idea of pestilence? Isn’t the message that a new generation will fix it all as old as time and cosmically wrong too?
You think this is nitpicky? This is just my criticism of the subtext, don’t forget that the actual text makes absolutely no sense either because the Antichrist is apparently capable of erasing Satan, a character that’s been built up to across the entire story, from existence the minute we first see him. Never mind that Satan is for some reason less powerful than his earthly incarnation/immature spawn, how the hell does Adam “become human” at the end? Literally no part of him is human! Did he just fundamentally change the nature of his existence on a dime by believing in himself really hard again?
Mkay.
This channel is sooo good
Come on the fight on the conveyor belt and Anderton driving away in the finished car is awesome
Awsome!! as usual :)
Fantastic world building. I also suggest seeing Every lesson from screenplay video about Minority Report.
Great video!
You're right. I did watch this pretty beautifully.