The TRUTH About Hermann Prime in Rise of Kingdoms
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- The TRUTH About Hermann Prime in Rise of Kingdoms
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Chapters:
0:00 Hermann Prime is HERE!
0:42 BEST Talent Build
1:32 BEST Commander Pair
4:09 Are His Stats TOO LOW?
6:31 Get Hermann or Boudica?
8:18 Get Hermann or Zhuge Liang?
8:49 REPLACE Boudica for Hermann?
11:19 Pair Hermann with Tomyris?
12:21 Is Hermann a "MUST HAVE" Commander?
14:17 Expertise or 5-5-5-1?
18:59 The TRUTH About Hermann Prime
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I will wait for the new Cavalry. I have had Nezsky-Joan Prime, Guan-Scopian, Zhuge-Henry & Boudica-YSG. It would have been nice to receive the Buff Hermann Prime from someone else😂❤🎉
Yes, maxed him day one, definitely part of the meta murderball.
@@RandyRodgirthYes if the best option if it has completed 690 Status. 🤔😁👍 I have to wait for my Sculpture tree to bear fruit in Another 3 month (need to collect, maybe get Max two commanders at once)😅❤🎉
5551 asap! cheers
I unlocked Hermann, but he is not a must build for me. I currently use Boudica/ysg (double relic) and am working on jhuge, who is a necessary upgrade for my marches more than Hermann
I enjoy your honesty. I think I relate to you most out of all persons in the RK universe. I don’t have limited time to sit here and diagnose and inspecting every commander there is. I do wish you would speak a little bit slower cause I have to replay a lot of what you say. But I do enjoy your contact probably a little bit more than Chisgule.
I really appreciate the kind words, thank you!
I am getting it to replace boudica. I will do the wrong talents, while benching my mora's web to shore up ZL/Herm. That is to say, I am getting 6% march speed from the verstatility tree, and I am taking out one mora's web to put in a talented call of the loyal. Furthermore, my armaments will have some speed, and I have the leadership pants for 2% speed. That is the way I am doing ZL/Herm, or ZERM. I know it is wrong on so many levels, but it is also unquestionably the only right way to do Zerm, if I want to live in the open field.
Me switching my wheel of fortune to hermann prime
Good idea!
U posted this 8 minutes ago and u already have 150 views, good job omniarch
Thanks man! :)
Cheers! Keep it coming. Informative as always brother
Thank you! 😁
Finally someone I can invest in, sitting on 1293 sculptures. had gotten boudica prime to 5/3/1/1 with wheel when they announced new archers. still not in kvk so I am going to spin the next few wheels untill maxing him. by then there will be alot more info about him
Boudica YSG is my first archer march. Replacing Ramses with Hermann to join Zhuge is my plan B. But making Zhuge the primary is a new idea. TY for the heads up
I would argue that you’re not thinking about Hermann/Tomy the right way. Yes Tomy will remove poison, but only on one target, and she’ll cause his expertise to pop much more often (making him comparable to Joan P) which will add poison to the 2nd and 3rd targets much faster. Removing poison from your targeted march isn’t going to be a problem because targeted marches melt pretty quickly anyway. ZL is still great with Hermann P, so maybe no need to work on Tomy, but if you already do have her expertised I think she’ll be OP with Hermann P as well.
These are good thoughts. There is a lot going for your argument. Meanwhile, the AOE of ZL, the damage of ZL, the buffing of AOE damage, the health stats of ZL places great pressures on Tommy to be so good that she overcomes all those advantages of ZL. She may have some speed, and a bit of defense, but her damage is going to be low, and she is single target. I suppose you did say that you put ZL elsewhere and put tommy in with Herman. Perhaps that could work, if the marches configures out thusly. -- Maybe Boud/ZL, Herm/Tommy, hoping that the extra cast of Herm would offset the dropping of the poisons, and the missing out of AOE dmg buff. There is no clear answer right now. If I had to guess, I would still say probably not.
Old school thinking. You must think ahead.
Another argument for Hermann/Tomy's quick poison stack is that for open field fighting, when you aren't connected with a target for more than one or two cycles, you'll be getting 10+ stacks of poison on the first skill pop vs 2-4 without Tomy, again benefitting all the nearby friendly marches (except gorge/Liu Che).
@@Gazoo2u Care to elaborate? Not sure what is old school about my logic.
@@pokerchannel6991 I think I pretty much agree with you. If you're only running one march, then I still think that ZL/Hermann is the way to go. Still need more testing to confirm/debunk my thoughts on Hermann/Tomy though.
"if you use 4 archer marches on the field....WHY?" I see how it is.
LMAOOO ❤️
Dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video, Omni. I guess I'm going to invest in Hermann instead of Liu Che, my poor Scipio is going to have to be with Mehmed for a long time lol
Liu Che probably better than Herman tbh
@@OmniarchOfficial 🗿 then I'm going to put some more thought on it, thanks for telling me 🙏
Is it better to invest 5511 in multiple commanders or expertise one commander? Like I get you get better trades with maxed commander but what if when you finally max your commander it falls off meta?
Either way your always playing catch up to the big spenders so your screwed either way… I’m a low to mid and I typically focus on one commander with universals and maybe buy daily packs for another commander
Have a maxed com is better than having 5511 multiple coms. You will always play catch up as an f2p.. having a maxed com will always improve ur trade
I am not even in SOC yet i always watch these 😂
Thank you! It's good to be prepared tbh!
I only have ysg expertise and 700 golden heads, for battle field who is better zl, boudica or herman p?
I'd do 5511 Zhuge Liang and 5551 Hermann P, then expertise ZL!
I could bet that next leadership commnader will have a buff to clear this poison stacks
As a player entering his first SOC (and basically the same kingdom since the beginning), the number of commanders is a bit overwhelming.
But first, cheers.
I'm not F2P but not close to a whale, and don't mind spending when it makes sense. I have Boudica/ZL unlocked and working on them but now have to decide about Hermann. I got a lucky spin on the Wheel to summon him the first shot so there's that. I was working on Joan for my maxxed out Nevsky (I run with double relic max Mina now) but having trouble figuring out where to focus. Thanks for all the great information, you are my go-to for learning.
Try to get minimum investment for Joan first 5115 or 5515 then u can consider Herman P. U would just pair ZL/HP and Boudi/YSG, Nev/Joan and ur marches r looking solid
@@indivisiblelol Thanks, that's the decision I made since I was already working on Joan.
Thank you Omniarch, I wanted a gold Commander for my Zhuge Liang and now I'll be spending my precious f2p gems on Herman! 😂
Lol. Omni i was saying that he is very good 5551 commander in your comments, you liked my comment, now you added that in your new video 😊
It’s the truth!
In wheel i selected Huo. I have Boudica P at 5531 and Zhuge at 5512. I will expertise Zhuge and think using Zhuge as primary. Omniarch do you thinkZhuge/Boudica is better pair than Zhuge as secondary?
Me patiently waiting for the cavs coming next 🤓🍿 while everyone invest in hermann
Patience is key!
Thanks for your content. I bring only one March on the field right now and have boudica and ZL expertised. Did I stay with that or go for a 5/5/5/1 Herman to replace boudica ? Cheers
Basically my next kvk will be about focusing on all the archers I see, my Nevsky will like that 🗿
yup me too lol target the ZL!
If i See Newsky in near of my Archer so its my first target. I focusing Newsky with 5 marches instand and slow Thema with Liu and Qbing .
Whazzup guysss _cheers_ 😎🍻
cheers man! 🍻
Omni bro, great video as always!! Thanks big for this one!! Heres where im conflicted... so im just now starting to work on an archer march, starting with ZL who is currently at 5511, with little equipment so far, so im still like 3 or 4 months out on a really usable archer march. I see alot of longevity in ZL, considering hes basically ysg on steroids, and we all know how long he was relevant. I dont know whether i should dive right into herman once ive finished ZL, or do i just wait on the next archer cycle, or even infantry or cav where i suspect someone who will clear these poison stacks? My fear is investing in a commander whos going to get nerfed in the near future, losing the value hes going to have the next kvk or 2.
Edit: im currently running 2 inf marches and a cav march in the likes of skippy/liu, guan/alex (i know😂), and nev/joan. The more i think about it, the more i think i should hang tight for the next inf cycle to maybe improve my second inf march, where ive already started a set of equipment that still needs improvement 🤔 DAAMN THESE DECISIONS!! 😂😂
I'd say finish ZL first and then evaluate from there. I guess the big question becomes who do you pair with your ZL until then?
I'm in the same boat. Literally just invested into Boudica after restraining myself for soo long. They really need an event to refund gold heads...at least once a year for one Commander
i think next inf cycle is atleast a year away even at the current speed
@@OmniarchOfficial I appreciate the feedback, bro! As a back fill, I've been using him with mehmed in canyon for now, it does ok, though the skill proc is kinda slow. I do have a ysg at 5523, kinda slow working him with gh from dailies, considering I need the vip, but really don't need any of the other commanders atm. Maybe herman is the move I should make, but like you said, I'll re-evaluate once I finish ZL, and see where we're at. Thanks bro!! Great video 💪💪
@@mentalist9167 So then it sound like I have plenty of time to put together a good archer march, maybe with some time on top to save some heads. If we get a sun tzu prime, I'm all in 🤣🤣🤣 watch a kusunoki prime get released with an aoe clear status effect 😳🤣🤣 only wishful thinking 🤣 thanks pal!! Appreciate the feedback!!
Omni should i run 1 inf, 1 cav, 1 archer for 3 solid march and why? Is'nt hard to focus on Cristal tech because need to up all type troops?
Yes you always need at least 1 of each troop type on the field because some commanders of each troop type are super OP!
When are you going to do a Live?
Not sure yet, been very busy!
Not sure if I agree with your conclusion about the expertise. Yes, it will take a long time when he is fighting a 1v1 fight. But if his AoE hits three targets the count is 6 per turn and that will probably happen a lot in bigger brawls because his AoE is huge
He inflicts 6 stacks every time he uses his active skill and he needs to inflict 25 for his expertise to trigger. That means he needs to cast his active skill 5 times, however, his 4th skill will trigger on average once every 7 turns, reducing the total number of skill cycles required to 3. I did a whole video on this when they "nerfed" his skill descriptions!
I ran a python simulation, just brute forcing 10% chance, with a 3 second cool down. If the theoretical fight goes for 10k turns, the skill will cast 765 times. This is less than once every 13 turns. @@OmniarchOfficial There is no chance that it goes off every 7 seconds, though.
5551 is enough good for open field. save gold heads for other commander.
@omniarch if just starting archers, YSG expert, is ZL still priority over Hermann?
Hey Omni, do you think LC or HP should be next project? Have BP/ZL and GY/Scipio marches already, have YSG unused but 900 heads
can you make a video about kingdoms for new player
If you just started playing, always start in the newest kingdom possible!
Whats ir talent tree on zhuge?
Who is the FIRST SOC commander to invest in going into KvK 3? Plan to pair with YSG
Can I use HermanP 5551 with Liang maxed now? I would like to replace 5551 budica
If I skip Herman on his first wheel of fortune does it will comeback in the future or it mean I just lose him forever??
What About zhuge/ysg Open field ? I have only 10 heads for Now … are they good ?
Was gonna get Hermann Prime but Zhuge Liang was also in the wheel so I had to get him first.
I have just started Boudica as my 3rd march, it is at 5211,should I forget about her and go for Herman or do her anyway?? 🤔🤔
Great content as always... Im on the fence on this one. My Budica is at 5552 with a maxed Zuge. Should i stop her maxing and replace her with Herman? 🤔
For me, boudica exp isn't that worth for the head required, and yes, Hermann zhuge Is Better in fights since Hermann has AOE debuff. But boudica can still be used until you have a 5551 Hermann, You can put her with YSG as a second March, or use her with ashurbanipal.
Oh yes. 5551 boudi is already golden. Not worth the gh to expertise her
Hey I want to know ur thoughts on nevsk/boud I feel like I do pretty good open field
all this talk about hermann prime and i’m about to expertise nevsky. (he’s my first expertise besides aethel)
Ok guys it's time for HermannP-Liu Che to destroy the meta in Warriors unbound 😂
I have zhugeliang 5551 with max ysg
Should i make herman prime 5551 replace ysg or i max ZL?
Why wont you have a kvk for multiple months? I understand skipping a sign ups but months?
Not having many sculptures to spend, I'm side-eyeing the 5% increased damage taken from cavalry on the 3rd skill. Is there any sense in leaving Hermann at 5300 or is it still better at 5311 even up against cavalry enemies? I've got Zhuge and Boudica both at 5311, I might not spend sculptures on Hermann at all for now.
The 5% increase is meaningless
Hey, Im little late on the topic, but still wonder whether I should invest in Zhuge or Herrmann first? I can only take one to like 5551 and pair him with an expertised YSG.
@@dude-man1 if you have YSG expertised then do 5551 Hermann first
@@OmniarchOfficial Appreciate the quick response mate! Yeah thats what I tought. But I guess I have to put Hermann as a primary no? Wouldnt that be little bit of a waste, cause he wont be primary once I start working on Zhuge?
@@dude-man1 yeah Hermann would be primary, and you’re right he’s probably gonna be secondary when you get Zhuge. Hopefully you’ll have enough XP tomes and stars by then 🙏
@@OmniarchOfficial Yeah, cause its probably gonna take forever to get the gh‘s anyways lol Thanks for the help, its truly appreciated!
I think you were incorrect in how long it will take to get the expertise to trigger. You said 2-3 full cycles. He inflicts 2 stacks per turn on up to 3 targets, thats 6 per turn possible. Best case scenario he gets it in 5 turns. Most likely 7-8 turns which is at least once per cycle.
he also will get poison stacks from his 4th skill on average once ever 7-8 turns, which is an additional 6 every time if it's 3 targets
If you just finished watching this video and have zl and don't have a boudica yet, go for hermann prime, best to do it now. Correct me if I'm wrong but he'll be in the next 3 wheels including this one. More value
Başka kanalların sadece ingilizce çevirisi varken sen video yüklendiği gibi onlarca dilden nasıl çeviri yapıyorsun?
I translate them myself :)
@@OmniarchOfficial amazing 😊
The real question is: why is he an archer commander and doesn't have a bow 🤔
A more serious question is , why is he holding such a big shield if he is archer .
😂😂😂❤
I have boudica and zhuge and 1K gh. Currently running 2 inf, 1 arch, 1 cavs. And then 1 arch/cav for rss spread. So my question on the wheel is Hermann or Hou? My 5th march has been YSG/mehmed, or Saladin/Mehmed. Do I upgrade to Hermann or Hou?
Hou
Plz wt hue usable at 5551 or 5515 or it to be maxed 🥺 maxed boudica maxed joan and everyone says they shouldn't i dont want to waste more heads , im calv main
Prime herman is good for 2nd commander pair with zhuge liang
Now I'm waiting for sun tzu prime
I have Expertise ysg and 340 Gold heads should i get Zhuge Liang or Hermann prime?
Герман должен стоять 2,думаю взять его и играть YSG/HERMAN
I am always a cycle to late... so I skipped Zhuge cuz I didnt bave sculps so I just had Nev/Joan and Scip/Liu Che and I am an Ark player so most likely I will just do a 2nd Cav march even though I love Inf, I am gonna do it for Ark, so yeah I am gonna skip all archers😂
When u see 15 stacks on ur marches u know u fckk up
At this rate it’ll be inevitable LOL
I have 900 gold heads reserved for an archer march. Can anyone tell me how many should I put in Hermann and how many in Zhuge?
Max zhuge and take herman to 5551
I'm calling aoe cleanse on next leadership or infantry commander
Yeah a poison cleanse would be OP now hahaha
I wonder if Herman Prime’s expertise needs all the stacks of poison to come from his march alone or does this add incentive to have a Tomy in your murderball so Herman fires off his expertise real fast? 🧐 on top of some other poison stack synergy
The point is, as long as hermann has 25 stacks he will cast the expertise, even with tomyris resetting the stacks, the stacks already out still counted, hope you get what i mean
Who Is better for full ysg? Herman or Zhuge ? for open field of course.
Zhuge
is cao cao worth now? (i have under 2 mil power)
Nah
So maybe silly question, but does herman prime's poison stack disappear when he is sad faced same as the debuffs on a 1 troop debuff? Or do these the target stay poisoned until the target is sad faced?
Of course they will - he's dead! 💀😂
@javierross7441 will what? Go or stay? @javierross7441 so if i just return herman to city or just outside poison will stay on target? Until target is dead?
If herman is dead will target have poison effect for 10 more seconds???
@@josephpicklecraft3869 - I think the stacks will be removed when your march is sad faced.
I currently want to upgrade Boudica/YSG on archers. What is the play? Liang or him? Who do I swap??
Liu is infantry, not archers.
@@winstonwolf6791 my mistake its Liang XD
I think zhuge is the better play. His AoE and archer health is insane. Then, if you want, do herman. But boudica/ZL is still a great march
Edit:ZL full circle vs herman half circle... 🤷♂️
@@angelvega5850 Ahh. Since it is looking like ZL is required to use Herman, I would def go ZL first.
What is rage for a commander? I still don’t know 💀
Is Hermann Prime higher priority than Liu Che in your opinion?
Nope, LC is insane
I can indeed, confirm that LC is still one of the most ridiculous field commanders in the game, with no slow in sight. Hes a great investment, im really glad I did it. Skippy/LC is still probably best field march in game to date. That's not to say they'll be amazing forever, but im willing to bet it's going to be a LONG time before that pair is replaced as inf meta
Gonna say in terms of utility herman is better.
95% of commanders do skill damage.
Liu only does damage and slow debuff
Hou only does damage and slow debuff
Herman does poison and defence debuff that stacks with nevsky. Even a haft dying herman march still does work where commanders only with damage do little.
@@ramos_pinho117lol
Hermann is stronger than LC if you have 5 marches, but most people asking about investments don’t have everything maxed and meta, so LC is better the less marches you have. The more you have, the more you benefit from Hermann’s 3rd skill defense reduction and poison debuffs
should i get Zhuge or herman first?
Zhuge ❤
😢😓Hermann has been Nerfed, It does not reach the level of Prime now. Someone should not share the information of the commander before Lilith is official. Later, Lilith will look and place Nerfed 🙁😅
They already nerfed him last month
@@realjohnloveYes, after seeing the initial data was released. Lilith Monitor And react. When we don't see the initial information. I don't think it's so bad 😂❤😅
Do i come back to RoK just to get herman from wheel lol 🤔
is nevsky a must expertise ?
If you are going to have a Cav march he is.
Yes, But you can start using it when it is 5551
@@Jota7565 got mine 5524 rn didn't skill lock
@@Gilix So it is also usable, but its expertise is OP
Gcl/ hermandp or He/Gcl ?
I have mine on Joan Prime cuz I don’t have her yet.
I’m not worried about tomy removing poison stacks cuz my targets will be dead by the time that happens, but I am worried about him losing out on AOE benefits with Tomy.
Hes going to get targeted IMMEDIATELY out in the field. Where hes included in the march, it will be the highest priority to kill, considering how powerful these stacks will be. It's kinda crazy, honestly, particularly with zhuge primary. Prepare to have ALOT of wood and stone on hand 😂😂😂 Killer march 🤘🤘
@@GrowmietheGreenpeople say that all the time with new commander- joan she gonna get swarm bla bla bla zhuge he is gonna get swarm.
But is see kds spamming those commander sure you can swarm a herman but there still a tons of herman giving you 45% debuff and gg u dead
We need a sun tzu prime asap
Interesting commander. KvK will be "See archer march, hit archer march" more than ever and it seems that is how it already is. 😬
Yup!
There is only one singular way to do ZL/Herman: I will be getting all the wrong talents, and foregoing a legendary accessory to shore up ZL/Herm. That is to say, Ill take 6% march speed from the verstatility tree, and I am taking out one mora's web to put in a talented call of the loyal. Also, my armaments will have some speed, and I have the leadership pants for 2% speed. That is the way I am doing ZL/Herm, or ZERM. I know it is wrong on so many levels, but it is also unquestionably the only right way to do Zerm. Cavs will not be able to touch ZERM in this configuration. Most Cavs, also, use slow builds. So, yeah.
@@pokerchannel6991 That is an interesting way to approach for sure. Being able to maneuver better, may be worth giving up some stats for sure.
@@pokerchannel6991bruh if you play in a high seed you won’t have to worry as much, just play in dot mode, they won’t focus Zerm and you can move all your archer march speed armaments to your slower archer march, that’s all.
@@pokerchannel6991also mora’s web is meant for Cavs so good to utilize it there.
I get a feeling the next leadership commander will have a poison reduction factor. What does everyone think?
Theodora already removes poison
What I think ? I think that you are a big noob 😂
Well, I now know that nothing that you say from here on out is worth💩
Take your NOOB comment and shove it.
5% more march speed isn’t a game changer tbh. That’s basically placing a “call of the loyal” on a march. The difference is not drastic to be frank.
In a high seed kvk he will be invaluable in murderballs.
I already have boudica and only run 1 archer march so I’m passing. Archers are squishy as hell and slow. That will never change.
Yeah the way I see it is that the extra march speed is just icing on the cake. It’ll still be slow but will overall outperform Boudica regardless
@@OmniarchOfficial
I was a inf main like you. I like archers only in Orleans due to the aux skills or if you get lucky in HA with Edward or el cid skill which gives march speed.
I’m in Orleans now and boudica/ZL with 2nd Edward and 3rd el cid makes them a monster.
New players should 💯 get hermann. Older players… well it depends.
I going to move from 2 cav 2 inf 1 archer to 3 cav 1 archer and 1 inf. when I do my 3rd cav (new commanders) I’ll roll back to hermann.
Huo I’ve found to be a killing machine. Makes nev/joan seem ever so slightly dated.
Happy new year bud
I also have boudica and zhuge maxed and only run 1 archer march and I feel like Herman is gonna make me bench my boudica. The aoe poison seems too good for my 5 march setup and I don't wanna bench her but he seems like he brings too much to the 5 March. Still looking for more info though lol
@@wellackchyually I hear you.
Remember hermann is going to be so targeted that you don’t really get to experience his full potential. If you have huo, liu che , Joan, nev, William, scipio, Zl then why not if you have the GH.
I love to sad face the target as fast as possible. I favour commanders like huo due to this.
I would def wait a bit as his only just come out. A good thing with his release is that boudica will get some breathing room lol.
@soulstart89 mehhhh, I don't know man.... nev is definitely a great commander still, and I find he's still tankier than huo, though huo does get the kills faster. And the beauty of nev is when he's focused, everything hitting takes a defense reduction. That seems pretty valuable to me. Too bad neither are aoe commanders, though that would be way too op 😂😂😂
Doesn’t this make guan more relevant with silence?
Chisgules said more herman prime's = easy kvk win
I skipped ZL due to expertise YSG and I didn't regret it, I will skip Hermann due to 5551 Boudica and my hospital won't regret it as well. I will invest those sculptures into expertise Liu Che to get the best commander in the game right now.
good choice!
wouldn't ZL be the best in the game
Liu is good after ZL
@@Coregame3 nah, Liu Che and Scipio have instant proc damage and they shred everything. Every youtuber says their best march right now is Scipio Liu Che. Even in Chisgule testing, Scipio Liu Che destroyed ZL + Hermann
@@he4620 you didnt even read my comment. I skipped ZL and dont regret it. ZL is a little bit better than YSG, for me not worth investing 700 sculptures. Its that small diffrence.
Liu Che on the other hand slaps everything he touches with his expertise.
Is it best to max skill herman or just stick to 5551?
We seriously need AP bro
Pakal is immune 😯
I put my ghs on Nevsky already. What a waste on my part. I couldn't resist the urge 🤦
Gotta skip unfortunately. Cav is almost maxed. Infantry next :)
HERMAN PRIME: I WILL GIVE TONS OF SKILL DAMAGE TAKEN!!!!
LC AND GORGO: ok
Countered😂 by smite commanders
Bro how many times you drink your coffee in a day? Mine i take 5 times. Hahaha
Usually 2 hahaha
Henry 🤷♂️
Dont talk people bullshit... Max Herman is must have for whole kingdom... He is not a single target Commander he is a openfield changer...
?????? lil bro didn't watch the video lmao I'm gonna assume english isn't your first language
1rst!!!!! After the third
LETS GOOO! hahahaha
first
LETS GOOOOO!
Porque vrga el titulo esta en español si el gringo virgo habla ingles .v
herman ysg? 😂
Nahh lol
don't like him.... to cartoonish
You mean his art style?
@@OmniarchOfficial yep... he just looks funny and out of place
He looks like 2D gaming character
His design is trash lmao
Lol you are selling yourself on ROK i see
Huh? I’ve played this game for over 5 years lol
Great video. Exp him in firts 10min))
Should i replace my ysg expertise or invest 390 heads on him to pair with ZL? Im short on heads 🥲 pls help