Awesome footage! Natsukashi!!! I only trained at the Ebisu sohonbu on my first two trips to Japan, however it had a awesome feel. Thank you so much for putting this up.
I just wanna say that I have been practicing shotokan karate for 22 years. I know boxing as well and some jiu jitsu. I respect all martial arts b/c all of them are designed for combat. And I have been challenging my skills for against many different type of fighters and trust me I could feel that I owned them and had the privilege because of shotokan,I was faster,my timing was great and I was more flexible. I am vey open minded so I don't use only karate b/c karate dose not have a limit.
@@santannakarate haha yes but if he notices that you're faking it he could get angry and then you're in big trouble. You have to look like you're overwhelmed by the master's technique... Silly game really. I was in Kokushikan in 1990-1991 and although I never trained and the honbu dojo or sparred with Yahara, I feel like this guy could very well have been me.
Ok I am not going to argue with you. I just wanna say,as I said I have been practice karate for 22 years and people are wrong when they say that karate does not include elbow striks or knee and low kicks. it's including everything and in real fighting it is very effective. Yahara is a master and he doesn't need to prove anything. You are right he is a nice man and he can be mean if it's needed.
yahara can hit. believe me i know. i was fast when i was in my twenties and thought i could beat him for speed. what a mistake. this guy is the real deal. when he hits you then you stay hit. phenominal.
@@savvasperisanidis he was notorious in his competition days for scrapping, so he really wasn't worried about taking a hit. Lol, he said at his watford seminar in uk that if he get hit and is bloody, he doesn't care and punches straight through the head of his opponent. I was there at the time, his interpreter said this.
@@johnmortimerjbmfitness7753 can only agree with you. Watch some of his old fights, he gets hit often but doesn't stop or complain, he just gets right back into it. One tough guy. Best course I ever had was with Yahara, Tanaka, Enoeda and Tabata. 4 legends.
John Mortimer mate I’ve just read ur comment and I just read mine !! What I meant to say , what I meant was ‘can he get hit’ in that he is so fast it’s impossible to catch him !!! Ofcourse he is super strong my god I’m a nothing to say anything bad regarding this JKA Grandmaster Osu
True karate as I practised in the 80s and 90 was the for runner of MMA. I also boxed for many years and can tell you Karate was brutal in comparison. I seen some horrific injuries, and to all the MMA fighters let me say this. Never in over 15 years of fighting had I ever to hit one person 5 times in the head when he was down and then he could get up. Utter rubbish. Even in my boxing days you hit once for a knock out. They either hit very soft or do not know how to hit. I was there when it was correct in Karate fighting to break jaws, break arms, knock out teeth and a total knock out won the fight and this was considered normal. I was knocked out quite frequently and fighting was literally anything went. From getting your head rammed into a wall, to be taken to hospital after a fighting session, the sessions were brutal. The fighting was real and infact, there were no rules. I mean NO RULES. Anything went, eye gouging, biting, head butts, elbows, you name it you did it, and no weight categories. You were afraid to go to the dojo. Those days were awesome and brutal, however, modern day karate is utter tripe. Its not fighting, its like a game of tag and the instructors should be ashamed of themselves for teaching such rubbish.
Only sport karate teaches that touch shit, personally I don't know how and why it was allowed to be developed. Luckily my dojo is traditional karate like this and my original sensei was very old school traditional karate, no messing around. Oss
While genuine karate should be as realistic as possible, it's important to exercise discipline & not make it a brawl-fest, that is no better then Hollywood or sport karate.
Thank god I’m not alone in thinking like this and I lived the same experience. I recall training with Sensei Kato at his Whitchurch dojo back in the mid 1980’s and it was extremely hard and physical. I also trained alongside Kagawa and Naka. Fast,relentless and physically tough. I was very very fit and coped as 25 year old Nidan grade . Others didn’t and couldn’t cope with the level of intensity. Hundreds of press ups ,squats and sit ups and that was before training actually began.
Also you can check the real story about Yahara. Yakuza tryed to kill him but,he was able to defend and get rid of the four attackers. Trust me,I am karate fighter and if everyone tells me that karate is a gay art I can challenge him and we ll find out what is gay :) :) :)
I hear what you say brother . I’ve been involved in Shotokan karate since 1981 and trained with all the great Japanese instructors , especially sensei’s Kato , Kawasoe , Kase and Shirai.!! I often hear the modern attitude and none of them trained in the 1980’s when karate was a much higher standard . I know it works as well . I spent 28 years as a front line police officer in many rough northern English towns and karate worked extremely well for me against very violent criminals . I also have heard many stories of Yahara. My own instructor trained with him in Japan and states he’s a very tough man . So we agree . If anyone states my karate is gay , I’d point out I’ve forgotten more then they know and to walk on .!
Hello; many complaining about Yahara San, no ethic in this clip. I watched several times since posted and still do not see anything unusual or disrespectful. Also, I adhere to the commenters that now most Karate is a joke.
by the way I can not beliave that you challenged yahara sensei and he said no! to you:) man yahara is crazy! he has a huge name and really have a great fighting skills. An other thing Machida himself says that he is great b/c of his karate skills. He is named as a karate fighter not jiu jitsu or boxing.
To those who are saying that shotokan = sport karate, you are right to an extent. These days the sporting side of shotokan has become a joke and the point sparring is very impractical, however it does train movement and reactions very well - look at Machida in MMA. What you don't understand is that there are two sides to shotokan, the sport side created by the JKA and the martial art side which can be very effective in all situations depending on how you are taught and how hard you train.
MMA is full contact brawling whereas genuine karate as evolved on the Ryukyu Islands for several centuries was a combat art where one didn't go ten rounds with the enemy but rather neutralized him quickly with deadly force.
You see we get to the conclusion :) you are right! You can choose budo or sports karate. Budo karate including shotokan has no limits in technique. Actually I am not saying that karate is the best style ever but,it is usefull if you train hard. I respect jiu jitsu,boxing. with out them MMA would be incomplete.
About Lyoto style is pretty much shotokan with takedown down defense and normal JJ, guess why no one catch him in the octagon? = Karate footwork and timing , guess why he kick round rouse and front with his toes? old shotokan way of kicking, do you even know who yoshizo is? He is counter fighter who relays to much on straight punches(karate way again), witch is pretty much karate core point, to counter attack. PS: I never done karate I am judo black belt and jiu jitsu purple belt atm.
Yahara is not a true budoka. Badass fighter maybe, but not a budo man as you say. One of the reasons why he likely didn't last in the JKA.... That and ego.
Their fighting styles are similar. Stance is practically the same as Machida's. The only difference in style I can see is Yahara throws single strike or short combinations with more power. Machidas use more volume and comibnations.
Then challenge a genuine Karate person, not one who practices Hollywood or so-called sport karate but rather the real stuff like M. Yahara practices, let us know how that goes.
When you practise takedowns you usually follow with another move just to make sure, so this is just that, besides you really think that Amos didn't know what Yahara was like?
+xGarrettThiefx You just started a flame war haha. But seriously, in a MMA ring with MMA rules, sure. Otherwise, in a real self-defense situation with no rules, elements of surprise and the like, no one knows.
+Laurent Rondeau I spent a long time in karate.. the thing is a lot of the higher ranks thought they could actually fight because they were awarded a dan grade for their years of training but in reality they knew jack shit. Karate never addresses anxiety management, stress management, ground fighting etcthe way I look at it is this : Its basically a compliance / quasi military / brain washing based glorified calisthenics class. The quicker this fakery goes away and we return to a pankration style of fighting across the whole world the better in my opinion.
+xGarrettThiefx This fakery is indeed very present in sports karate (which I practice for fitness, in no way am I a true ''fighter'' however you want to define it). But, there are various practitioners around the world accross organizations and styles who do practice a karate that is efficient, such as iain abernethy or taira masaiji sensei. It seems to me that karate is very poorly understood in the west but there are more and more good practitioners who are seriously training and striving to understand this art in a self-defence context. Anyways, I don't want to ramble on here... May I ask what style and/or to which organization you belonged in your karate days?
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Nice video... brings back nostalgic memories of the Ebisu days!! Thanks for uploading this.
Mikio Yahara, one of my idols.
Excelente oss
Oss!
Awesome footage! Natsukashi!!!
I only trained at the Ebisu sohonbu on my first two trips to Japan, however it had a awesome feel. Thank you so much for putting this up.
Wow
やはり、本物の空手は、凄いです！✨
I just wanna say that I have been practicing shotokan karate for 22 years. I know boxing as well and some jiu jitsu. I respect all martial arts b/c all of them are designed for combat. And I have been challenging my skills for against many different type of fighters and trust me I could feel that I owned them and had the privilege because of shotokan,I was faster,my timing was great and I was more flexible. I am vey open minded so I don't use only karate b/c karate dose not have a limit.
Sensacional domínio técnico.
Excelente ! Great Sensei Yahara ! 🥋Oss
Richard Amos. Respect.
I think Richard Amos was very compliant...
Yes, he is...and he should be!! Just say Oss!! At that time no complaints, just obedience.
@@santannakarate haha yes but if he notices that you're faking it he could get angry and then you're in big trouble.
You have to look like you're overwhelmed by the master's technique... Silly game really.
I was in Kokushikan in 1990-1991 and although I never trained and the honbu dojo or sparred with Yahara, I feel like this guy could very well have been me.
Too compliant if you ask me. Yahara is a bully.... As was and will be. Plenty of other videos with him taking extra shots when there was no need.
@@santannakarate no. they did not respect that. not true, i trained in tokyo. mid 80s 3 months at a time. simply not true,. his choice.
Sensei yahara great karateka very little control in those days
Ok I am not going to argue with you. I just wanna say,as I said I have been practice karate for 22 years and people are wrong when they say that karate does not include elbow striks or knee and low kicks. it's including everything and in real fighting it is very effective. Yahara is a master and he doesn't need to prove anything. You are right he is a nice man and he can be mean if it's needed.
yahara can hit. believe me i know. i was fast when i was in my twenties and thought i could beat him for speed. what a mistake. this guy is the real deal. when he hits you then you stay hit. phenominal.
Willie Phimister Osu he can hit
But can he take a hit???
@@savvasperisanidis he was notorious in his competition days for scrapping, so he really wasn't worried about taking a hit. Lol, he said at his watford seminar in uk that if he get hit and is bloody, he doesn't care and punches straight through the head of his opponent. I was there at the time, his interpreter said this.
@@johnmortimerjbmfitness7753 can only agree with you. Watch some of his old fights, he gets hit often but doesn't stop or complain, he just gets right back into it. One tough guy. Best course I ever had was with Yahara, Tanaka, Enoeda and Tabata. 4 legends.
John Mortimer mate I’ve just read ur comment and I just read mine !!
What I meant to say , what I meant was ‘can he get hit’ in that he is so fast it’s impossible to catch him !!!
Ofcourse he is super strong my god I’m a nothing to say anything bad regarding this JKA Grandmaster Osu
I bet you were something back in your day, I’m with JKA and love every minute of it. Over these past few months I’ve been training myself.
True karate as I practised in the 80s and 90 was the for runner of MMA. I also boxed for many years and can tell you Karate was brutal in comparison. I seen some horrific injuries, and to all the MMA fighters let me say this. Never in over 15 years of fighting had I ever to hit one person 5 times in the head when he was down and then he could get up. Utter rubbish. Even in my boxing days you hit once for a knock out. They either hit very soft or do not know how to hit.
I was there when it was correct in Karate fighting to break jaws, break arms, knock out teeth and a total knock out won the fight and this was considered normal. I was knocked out quite frequently and fighting was literally anything went. From getting your head rammed into a wall, to be taken to hospital after a fighting session, the sessions were brutal. The fighting was real and infact, there were no rules. I mean NO RULES. Anything went, eye gouging, biting, head butts, elbows, you name it you did it, and no weight categories.
You were afraid to go to the dojo. Those days were awesome and brutal, however, modern day karate is utter tripe. Its not fighting, its like a game of tag and the instructors should be ashamed of themselves for teaching such rubbish.
Only sport karate teaches that touch shit, personally I don't know how and why it was allowed to be developed. Luckily my dojo is traditional karate like this and my original sensei was very old school traditional karate, no messing around. Oss
Nik Nas
Mistakenly typed
While genuine karate should be as realistic as possible, it's important to exercise discipline & not make it a brawl-fest, that is no better then Hollywood or sport karate.
Thank god I’m not alone in thinking like this and I lived the same experience. I recall training with Sensei Kato at his Whitchurch dojo back in the mid 1980’s and it was extremely hard and physical. I also trained alongside Kagawa and Naka. Fast,relentless and physically tough. I was very very fit and coped as 25 year old Nidan grade . Others didn’t and couldn’t cope with the level of intensity. Hundreds of press ups ,squats and sit ups and that was before training actually began.
Also you can check the real story about Yahara. Yakuza tryed to kill him but,he was able to defend and get rid of the four attackers.
Trust me,I am karate fighter and if everyone tells me that karate is a gay art I can challenge him and we ll find out what is gay :) :) :)
I hear what you say brother . I’ve been involved in Shotokan karate since 1981 and trained with all the great Japanese instructors , especially sensei’s Kato , Kawasoe , Kase and Shirai.!! I often hear the modern attitude and none of them trained in the 1980’s when karate was a much higher standard . I know it works as well . I spent 28 years as a front line police officer in many rough northern English towns and karate worked extremely well for me against very violent criminals . I also have heard many stories of Yahara. My own instructor trained with him in Japan and states he’s a very tough man . So we agree . If anyone states my karate is gay , I’d point out I’ve forgotten more then they know and to walk on .!
Hello; many complaining about Yahara San, no ethic in this clip. I watched several times since posted and still do not see anything unusual or disrespectful.
Also, I adhere to the commenters that now most Karate is a joke.
by the way I can not beliave that you challenged yahara sensei and he said no! to you:) man yahara is crazy! he has a huge name and really have a great fighting skills. An other thing Machida himself says that he is great b/c of his karate skills. He is named as a karate fighter not jiu jitsu or boxing.
what is meaning of shihan ?
To those who are saying that shotokan = sport karate, you are right to an extent. These days the sporting side of shotokan has become a joke and the point sparring is very impractical, however it does train movement and reactions very well - look at Machida in MMA. What you don't understand is that there are two sides to shotokan, the sport side created by the JKA and the martial art side which can be very effective in all situations depending on how you are taught and how hard you train.
MMA is full contact brawling whereas genuine karate as evolved on the Ryukyu Islands for several centuries was a combat art where one didn't go ten rounds with the enemy but rather neutralized him quickly with deadly force.
unsu is his favorite kata right?
Yes. He has said that "Unsu is his life"
You see we get to the conclusion :) you are right! You can choose budo or sports karate. Budo karate including shotokan has no limits in technique.
Actually I am not saying that karate is the best style ever but,it is usefull if you train hard. I respect jiu jitsu,boxing. with out them MMA would be incomplete.
About Lyoto style is pretty much shotokan with takedown down defense and normal JJ, guess why no one catch him in the octagon? = Karate footwork and timing , guess why he kick round rouse and front with his toes? old shotokan way of kicking, do you even know who yoshizo is? He is counter fighter who relays to much on straight punches(karate way again), witch is pretty much karate core point, to counter attack.
PS: I never done karate I am judo black belt and jiu jitsu purple belt atm.
Só vi um lutador lutando de verdade o outro estava sendo sparring
Yahara is indeed a Budo man. Why compare him to Machida's? This is completely insane. MMA is not Budo.
Yahara is not a true budoka. Badass fighter maybe, but not a budo man as you say. One of the reasons why he likely didn't last in the JKA.... That and ego.
Their fighting styles are similar. Stance is practically the same as Machida's. The only difference in style I can see is Yahara throws single strike or short combinations with more power. Machidas use more volume and comibnations.
C'è ancora il dojo di ebisu?
i never liked people who impose thereselfs i don't care about the level of their skill!.
Why don't you say it to those masters in face?! or go to say it to Lyoto Machida who won the UFC lightheavy weight belt.
Shotokan>>>gojuryu ;)
How to get yer ass kicked - not much of a karate guy is Amos ...lmao
Sorry, but shotokan is rubbish. All the posturing, and over emphasis on every technique is its weakness.
Explain this sensai Brennan, he may put you straight, or just laugh?
Then challenge a genuine Karate person, not one who practices Hollywood or so-called sport karate but rather the real stuff like M. Yahara practices, let us know how that goes.
Sorry but yahara disrespected Amos. you dont hit a man while his down, this is kumite,not a MMA or a street fight. Typical cowboy.
When you practise takedowns you usually follow with another move just to make sure, so this is just that, besides you really think that Amos didn't know what Yahara was like?
WKF kumite knockout
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Yahara would take a horrific beating against an MMA fighter
is this a joke???
+xGarrettThiefx You just started a flame war haha. But seriously, in a MMA ring with MMA rules, sure. Otherwise, in a real self-defense situation with no rules, elements of surprise and the like, no one knows.
+Laurent Rondeau I spent a long time in karate.. the thing is a lot of the higher ranks thought they could actually fight because they were awarded a dan grade for their years of training but in reality they knew jack shit. Karate never addresses anxiety management, stress management, ground fighting etcthe way I look at it is this : Its basically a compliance / quasi military / brain washing based glorified calisthenics class. The quicker this fakery goes away and we return to a pankration style of fighting across the whole world the better in my opinion.
+xGarrettThiefx This fakery is indeed very present in sports karate (which I practice for fitness, in no way am I a true ''fighter'' however you want to define it). But, there are various practitioners around the world accross organizations and styles who do practice a karate that is efficient, such as iain abernethy or taira masaiji sensei.
It seems to me that karate is very poorly understood in the west but there are more and more good practitioners who are seriously training and striving to understand this art in a self-defence context. Anyways, I don't want to ramble on here... May I ask what style and/or to which organization you belonged in your karate days?
SKI then JKA