What they should have done is build Classical Chinese architecture from past dynasties in modern and state of the art materials with forward thinking architects. These types of buildings or ideas are already being made in other parts of the world. The mix of tradition with hi tech engineering would be more than enough to visually communicate power and values of china, but no. Instead they built European Disney land hahaha
The thing is define Classical Chinese architecture? Which dynasty? Much of the traditional Chinese architecture has been lost in China and you will find it better maintained in Japan or Korea. You visit Beijing and a lot of the older sites are falling apart.
Such a waste of money and resources. Instead of creating something unique, meaningful and innovative that expresses China's own identity, they built this mess of a mockery.
China’s history and culture stretches vastly beyond that of Europe’s, yet it seems like the Chinese are ashamed of it or don’t recognize it for some reason
I've been to Thames Town myself...honestly pretty eerie. Feels nothing like anywhere I've been in Europe, it felt really artifical. They made the security guards of the gated communities dress up in red like those guards in London which was pretty funny though. I hope Europeans aren't offended though. If anything it shows how much European culture and architecture is admired here (even if its done in a weird way). Love from Shanghai
It would be weird for me to walk there or in the Dutch town as I am from The Netherlands myself. We have many visitors from China in the part where I grew up, Zaandam, known for the Zaansche Schans. I am curious though how it would be to walk there. I hope those places will get people and a living community as it is a fun idea.
I actually was in Anting (the German town) with my professor a group of other students (we are from Germany). It was really strange, because everything looked familiar but slightly off. Like an uncanny valley of architecture. We went for lunch at the town square (as you would do in a small German town) and observed the environment and the people there. Our Prof told us that he visited the city a few years earlier just as it has been build. There were no restaurants, no shops an no people there. He was surprised how much the replica-city evolved in a positive way since then. (The city still was mostly empty, but we saw a few families, shops restaurants and even a Starbucks). He also expects that the situation will get better for these towns in general over time. But in the short term this project definitely didn't meet the goals the Chinese government had in mind.
the differrence comes where the chinatowns have a couple of chinese immigrants who run some of the shops and are part of the local community, whereas these have near to no immigrants and it's just filled with high end chain brand stores
@@razvansimionescu7974 Now come on, China lifted millions out of poverty unlike the Qing Dynasty or the ROC But in the end the CCP i guess isn’t that good.
What I find funny is years ago these cities were reported in the US as failed projects because they weren't instantly populated overnight as though you're playing Sims City in x4 speed. Now there are thousands of residents and people are still moving in
Japan took their legacy architecture and built upon it. Curved roofs, onsens(hot baths) narrow streets, tiny facades.. They also attach deep importance to their cultural heritage in other areas like the martial arts, their version of chess (shogi) other board games like go. They also push their Shinto festivals to the extreme building colossal structures and dragging the through the streets. I mean we all love Japan, for the same reason we love a van gaugh-esque remote village with a wind mill in the Netherlands. It's unique and interesting yes but more importantly Authentic! The only way these European towns would've prospered in China is if they were built by Europeans living in China. Like China towns in the west. But without humans and culture these structures lack the most important component, a soul.
@@luka3174 Partially true. But the thing with Japan is that building codes are incredibly strict and older buildings are just cheaper and easier to demolish vs trying to bring it up to code. I think a good example is the Harajuku station or capsule building that have both been demolished in the past few years. Although neither were of traditional Japanese architecture.
@@kimnguyen6825 Actually it does get lots of mentions. Generally speaking it's negative or just another example of Japanese being "crazy" like robot shows.
I swear people just talk to hear themselves talk. These European themed towns don’t even make up 1% if their infrastructure. It’s just a tiny part of a vast and diverse Chinese infrastructure. Everything has a theme and the skyscrapers are all uniquely shaped compared to the usual boxed shaped infrastructure of western countries
@@llawliet666 There is a income threshold most people I know living in China don't reach. Sometimes it from the visiting countries due to fear of people coming from lower income countries staying. But often time, it is a privilege for the rich that most aren't actually able to afford.
As a Chinese I would like to say that some of the older leaders have a low cultural appreciation and are always trying to imitate others clumsily. Of course, the most important thing I think is that these projects can create a lot of avenues for corruption
That sucks man, honestly it would have been way cooler if you guys used your own style of architecture. Chinese architecture is beautiful. It is a shame your leader didn't appreciate it.
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Many people in the comment seem to come to the conclusion that the Chinese don't build traditional Chinese architectures in China base on this video, that is not true. The European themed cities built in China probably don't even account for less than 0.1% of all the cities in China and as the video pointed out, they are built for affluent Chinese who appreciate European style buildings, it's just supply and demand. There are still a lot of historical buildings left in China even after Culture Revolution and they are building many more traditional Chinese style buildings in China. With the rise of the new Chinese nationalism in which history, culture and tradition play an essential role, I would expect to see even more traditional Chinese architectures been built.
There's Eiffel Tower replica in Japan too, and alot of other countries.. European themed towns are also everywhere, I don't understand why people are mad at China because of that
Thing is that theese projects din't develop organically, like the cities they tried to imitate. Say if you built french style buildings in the central city of Shangai then they would be fully inhabited and crowded instead of it just being a sleeper suburb designed for people not to work in but instead go sleep at night.
Well I think it's funny , and western architects and cities nowadays take themeselves so seriously that everything they build is boring and looks the same everywhere. The west has abandonned fantasy and fun. everytime a different kind of mindset is presented to western people, and it's not a mindset that is trending right now in globalized unimaginative architect firms ... Westerners pinch their noses with snobery. Yet... everybody stoped caring about western architecture since the 1950's. boring, uniformized , ugly.
Would be fantastic for a comedy. And all the background extras could be Chinese and they should just never bring attention to that being odd, would be hilarious.
@@mieroth Lol, seeing Chinese extras speaking French, wearing berets and eating baguettes in the background and acting like that's the most normal thing ever.
I visited one “British town” when I was visiting Shanghai. It was in a quite suburban area, with very few people, most of whom were lost tourists like myself. a bizarre experience like in an unpopular theme park. I’d rather see Shanghai.
@@TheDimanoid999 Some countries are more proud of their country and their nationality than others. Smaller countries tend to be a bit more on prouder size imo. That would include my home country Finland too. Well... 'small'. Size isn't, but population is.
@@Denyo666 That's not quite true. China is the second largest economy in the world. It IS forecast to overtake the US as early as 2028 but more recently that has been extended out. Between 2020 and 2021 China's GDP increased more than the US (8% to 6%) but since the US was larger to start with the gap in raw GDP actually grew slightly in favor of the US. The global economy however has been tossed quite a curveball by recent event in Europe and global inflation. Now China definitely has production capability and they make some cutting edge stuff. Building standards on the other hand is NOT one of those things.
As an Italian I think China has one of the most amazing cultures and histories in the world, so they don't need to do this stuff or to build skyscrapers without soul.
I swear people just talk to hear themselves talk. These European themed towns don’t even make up 1% if their infrastructure. It’s just a tiny part of a vast and diverse Chinese infrastructure. Everything has a theme and the skyscrapers are all uniquely shaped compared to the usual boxed shaped infrastructure of western countries
In sweden there is a huge hotel complex built by a chinese investor, it is called dragon gate and has a wierd feeling with it's huge statues and empty square, but it looks very majestetic, like an empty forbidden city.
Is sad that they don't appreciate their own traditional Chinese architecture instead they look forward into European architecture styles. I would like to see ancient Chinese architecture buildings, is gonna be so much better
Chinese traditional architecture is very famous and there are many. Isn't diversity good? There are also many traditional Chinese garden buildings in Europe and the United States
it reminds me of the hypocrisy of representatives of the Kremlin as well as Russian oligarchs who heavily criticize the West but at the same time among them there are those who have French citizenship, have residences scattered throughout Europe, have children who study in the most prestigious universities US and European.
Some are completely ghost town because they are only for ULTRA rich person, which I could not afford that. Like idk what’s the point of building a town for ultra rich instead of rich and ultra rich.
Tianducheng (天都城) was developed by a subsidiary of the Zhenjiang Guangsha company, a real estate company listed in Shanghai. Construction began around 2007. Its central feature is 108-metre-tall (354-foot) replica of the Eiffel Tower and 31 km2 (12 sq mi) of Parisian-style architecture, fountains and landscaping. It opened in 2007, and can accommodate more than 10,000 residents. Initial occupancy was low, with an estimated 2,000 people living in the development by 2013, leading some to label it a ghost town. By 2017, however, its population had grown to 30,000 and the development was expanded several times. It now has its own metro station (named Huangheshan) as part of the Hangzhou metro network. -from Wikipedia and other online sources
I went there 3 times and found it an inauthentic experience, especially the one that was supposed to mimic France. I went 3 times and didn't even get robbed once.
“The Chinese are very good at this sort of thing. Right now I am speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Raybands, wearing a fake Armani jacket, holding a fake Lois Vuitton bag, in which you can find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if I consult my fake omega, it is 25 to 3, probably, which means it’s time to head over to the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee.” -Jeremy Clarkson
There are legal grounds for something like that. That is cultural appropriation and counterfeiting, specially for China which doesn't share the same European values.
"no more weird buildings with no cultural heritage" * literally has millions of generic vertical glass rectangles that look like any other city anywhere else except with tons and tons of pollution so you know its china *
Look at those tall “vertical rectangles again”, some of them looks better than the ones in Europe and the United States. Tons and tons of pollution is BS, I literally lived in the third biggest city in China and you can barely call it polluted
Ah yes polution everywhere when China is the one who plant tree the most,investing the most in renewable energy especially electric vehicle,you just hate China don't you?
They also destroy habitat to get materials. Then destroy more habitat to build pointless buildings that will crumble in 10 years. All for nothing. Repeat repeat repeat
@MysticalKO because it's a totalitarian hellhole that treats its citizens like slaves. Nobody's hating on Taiwan, the real inheritors of Chinese culture.
All are not rich to visit world, nor they get tourist visa to all countries. Having 10% of world population in a single country, it's good step taken by China. Also the architectural designs would be easier for the students to see and learn as they may not visit every monuments worldwide. It's more like a economic-educational-recreational-historical-tourism aspect.
1:13 9 towns are mimicking Canada, China, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, UK. 1:46 7 of 9 towns were actually build. 4:55 Austrian town of Hallstatt. So there was actually 10 towns planned?
Why are people acting so negative on this? I personally find this really cute. It's like the Chinatowns in America (In terms of design, not purpose), except that it's more like a theme park.
Yes, I think its fine untill they acknowledge it. I would love to have something like this in my country. It would be so awesome to live like you are in some other country.
The reason I would mostly say "meh" in terms of how I feel about this is the fact that they aren't trying to implement things of locations but instead are IDENTICALLY copying ENTIRE cities
The problem is how fake and un organic it feels. This is the same problem with many of these cities China builds that are empty. They don't have organic growth and they let the rich buy up everything (that's what they do to invest their money), so they are never populated. The only thing these cities are good for is collecting dust and maybe for movies.
The government and its people are two entities. These real estate developers likely loved the idea and moved forward with it. This is before the recent moves of the government to control everything
@@ayoCC at the end of the day, everyone knows that every piece of land is own by the government. If they hate it so much it would be long gone. If they want it gone, it will be gone. Thwy have no issue in removijg occupants of home forcefully and tear the place down infront of them. So i don't really see the issue there.
I think pple are overlooking the fact that these are about 10 cities in a country with over 600 cities. Yeah maybe building entire towns is weird, but it's less than 5% of the entire country
I like it. It’s just tiny pieces of the country. It’s not like it’s even 1% of China. But, the bubble ruins it. Funny how you mentioned Vegas, because Chinese investors also created a bubble there.
Omg it explains a lot, few months ago I and my girlfriend drove to Songjiang ,and we saw a lot of British style buildings there and we were totally confused
I don't think so, China is big and has lots of Chinese architecture left. Even in my town there are 3 buildings Chinese architecture built 300 years ago, by Europeans, not Chinese
People who live in China towns in cities in the west are mostly Asians, and they live in democratic countries. People who live in "Europe towns" in China are only Chinese ... They live in a dictatorship.
they don't compare, the china towns are integrated into the western cities and built by Chinese immigrants, these European towns are built by large Chinese companies for profit and they just create blatant copies without any creative input.
I think the difference is that the Chinatowns were built by immigrants who tried to share or remind of them their own culture. These were built by Chinese (with the help of European architects) as copies of western cities to promote tourism.
Chinese Kid: I want to go on a European trip. Chinese Mom: We already have that at home. Europeans: That's funny, but you still should experience the real deal.
We should point at these towns when modern day architects say that we cant build these kind of building anymore (when they try to push their brutalist hellscapes).
Some buildings can’t be built anymore because of modern zoning codes, not a conspiracy of architects devoted to a style that peaked in the 1960s. Also, European and US architects still build buildings in classical styles, so I’m not sure what you’re on about.
@@beej741 It's evident that most architects have absolutely no clue of the classical tradition, just look at all the McMansions and faux classical mockeries built here in the US.
These cities aren't built for you, they're built for affluent Chinese, who are nueve-rich and have corresponding tastes. Before jumping to conclusions like a jacked rabbit, THIS is pure "supply and demand", something that the housing markets in virtually all developed nations is lacking, despite expounding "free-market" values.
@@sitfish1113 I get your point, and that's exactly what customers want. Think it this way: back in the early 20th, Westerners were copying Chinese and Japanese arts and porcelain. You can easily look up Chinese patterns on vases made in France, that were obviously much cheaper than the real thing.
@@tonysoviet3692 Yeah but thats cultural diffusion and completely normal for it to go both ways. I guess the europe city is sorta the same as something like a China Town.
Honestly it's not a big problem if they do it right. You also get people from Japan planting cherry blossom in Europe or you have the Chinese garden in Germany. Just don't build this upon some inferiority complex, build this on the basis of friendly cultural exchange. If it is done that way, it is healthy for everyone. It will be pretty interesting if the European countries also build.
It's funny that people in the comment section thinks that China doesn't preserve their culture and tradition, like didn't they know that there a lot of places that still preserve the culture
actually that the reason. china lost so much their culture in cultural revolution 90% gone the rest in just fake one or just rebuild. and then they still want to invade Taiwan because they lose their own culture
This is just a theme town .... People from many countries don't understand China and apply their own country's experience to China, which has a very large territory and a large population, and there are always people who like European style architecture. This actually reflects the fact that China is very receptive to foreign cultures. China has not only traditional architecture, but also a lot of it, and more and more after these decades, you can see almost any architectural school in China, not only European, but even abstract architecture and some bewildering architecture. there are many videos of Chinese street scenes on UA-cam that are not hard to find.
Moving people out of city to easy congestion in a city is dumbest idea ever. India also tried this with New Delhi. Only way to deal with the congestion is to design a better city
mimicking foreign architecture is good to a certain degree, and can be a helpful part of cross-cultural interaction. However to take it to this degree is an absurd and superfluous endeavor that gives very little practical return compared to the investment. I can't say I'm surprised that most of these happened in Shanghai, they've gained a reputation of being economically rich and culturally poor for the past century, as well as a weird cockiness and disdain toward the rest of China, preferring western cultural products instead of our own. This is probably at least partially due to historical reason, as Shanghai was home to some of the biggest foreign colonies back in the day, with a significant part of its land governed by western agencies. Many of us consider Shanghai quite an embarrassment but that doesn't stop them from being full of themselves, so what can you do really...
@@GenericUrbanism uh I didn't want to put it so bluntly but... yeah... If you just look at the buildings in Shanghai and compare those to other large cities you'd notice that Shanghai has a jarring lack of Chinese cultural elements.
What's interesting is that there is not only a Dutch appearing town in China, there is also a big themepark in Japan made to look like Amsterdam.. It's just incredibly odd. People here seem to think it's kind of cool that other countries appreciate our architecture but also feel like it's reducing our country to a set of stereotypes (the windmills and canals), although these are some unique features of our country we also feel like many people around the world get a very warped idea of what our country actually looks like.
You really messed up things. The Dutch theme park is a diplomatic present from the Netherlands located at Nagasaki, where there used to be a Dutch trading post centuries ago
Very impressive actually. Although it wouldnt have the historical aspect of the real thing, It would be a great change of scenery for those who wanted to lived in it without having to deal with the cultural shock and finishing all the pile of paperworks that needed to be done to actually living in another country. I think tourism both from external and domestic is not everything all there is although i have to say, some of these projects is indeed looks very beautiful. There is still a lot of possibility they could do with it especially for those who planned to live there. The project itself is not over yet. It would be an understatement to say that the Chinese doesnt understand the historical value of the real europe. They are a bunch of business experts and China has its own historical sites, of course they understands that. But making "europe town" has its own benefits. Apparently, those benefits is worth chasing under their calculation. This might have something to do with their communist ideology or alternatively it didnt have anything to do with it because we know china's approach is very pragmatic when it comes to economic plans. For me honestly, i'm more interested on seeing these projects on its final form. Seriously, i would want to see european styled buildings on the beautiful and unique chinese landscape. Maybe we could also see Wuxia films being made in there, who knows.. That will have a charm on its own.
They should have also imported 10 000 people for each replica of FRANCE, SPAIN, GERMANY..ect, to have it really feel 'real'. Without the people living in them, the architecture will just feel like empty buildings..
I'm pretty sure no one visits China to see a fake Eiffel Tower lmao, and Vegas is known more for casinos and it's entertainment rather than architecture
I appreciate this video, but like anything else, things must be catered to that country's individual tastes and situation. This reminds me of the little towns and regions that exist in the US (Chinatown, Little Italy, Little Saigon, etc.) but there are key differences that exist between the Western countries and China, notably the heterogeneous nature (and excellent recruiting campaigns) of the West compared to China (who doesn't recruit as many foreigners), which prides itself on its homogeneous culture. If China recruited or encouraged more people from other countries to live in these towns (e.g. encouraging Italians to move or study in their version of Little Italy) it would achieve that authentic feel that China was hoping for. Instead, it feels more like a tourist location for Chinese nationals, which is fine, but the rich Chinese who buy these properties need to market it as a tourist destination rather than as a living, breathing small foreign city. Personally, I don't think this is cultural appropriation because the Chinese government took the time to recreate things authentically and got assistance from outside developers and architects. If it fosters stronger relationships with other Western countries, then I don't see why others would take offense over the recreation of these cities.
What they should have done is build Classical Chinese architecture from past dynasties in modern and state of the art materials with forward thinking architects. These types of buildings or ideas are already being made in other parts of the world. The mix of tradition with hi tech engineering would be more than enough to visually communicate power and values of china, but no. Instead they built European Disney land hahaha
this is what lack of taste looks like
the communist chinese destroyed most of the classic architecture during the period "cultural revolution"
That would feel like cultural appropriation though. What they're doing seems more like a form of respect
The thing is define Classical Chinese architecture? Which dynasty? Much of the traditional Chinese architecture has been lost in China and you will find it better maintained in Japan or Korea. You visit Beijing and a lot of the older sites are falling apart.
Not with the CCP
Such a waste of money and resources. Instead of creating something unique, meaningful and innovative that expresses China's own identity, they built this mess of a mockery.
Yeah, but China thinks "original" is by copying everything. That's why every knockoff of every famous brand is made in China
China’s history and culture stretches vastly beyond that of Europe’s, yet it seems like the Chinese are ashamed of it or don’t recognize it for some reason
Yes, it's garrish, tacky.
Its stopped now.
China never really had the time to develop its own kind of architecture.
Kid: “Mum, can we go to Europe?”
Mama CCP: “We have Europe at home.”
The Europe at home:
I think this comes from an inferiority complex. Why else would they not celebrate their own culture and heritage?
"Why go to Europe, when we can make Europe come to you" - The CPC
The CCP is the one trying to stop investors from building these towns, the video stated this ,not sure the channel liked this comment in particular.
@@DacLMK - i cant believe the cp collectors would say this
@@seadrown6252 I just abbreviated the CCP to the CPC because that's the correct name. Communist Party of China, instead of Chinese Communist Party.
I've been to Thames Town myself...honestly pretty eerie. Feels nothing like anywhere I've been in Europe, it felt really artifical. They made the security guards of the gated communities dress up in red like those guards in London which was pretty funny though.
I hope Europeans aren't offended though. If anything it shows how much European culture and architecture is admired here (even if its done in a weird way). Love from Shanghai
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These fake towns will become tourist attractions after the fall of CCP.
It would be weird for me to walk there or in the Dutch town as I am from The Netherlands myself. We have many visitors from China in the part where I grew up, Zaandam, known for the Zaansche Schans. I am curious though how it would be to walk there. I hope those places will get people and a living community as it is a fun idea.
Personally I'm not offended, I'm just weirded out
I don't think it's offensive, just ... weird
I actually was in Anting (the German town) with my professor a group of other students (we are from Germany). It was really strange, because everything looked familiar but slightly off. Like an uncanny valley of architecture. We went for lunch at the town square (as you would do in a small German town) and observed the environment and the people there.
Our Prof told us that he visited the city a few years earlier just as it has been build. There were no restaurants, no shops an no people there. He was surprised how much the replica-city evolved in a positive way since then. (The city still was mostly empty, but we saw a few families, shops restaurants and even a Starbucks).
He also expects that the situation will get better for these towns in general over time. But in the short term this project definitely didn't meet the goals the Chinese government had in mind.
They saw that every city has a “Chinatown”, and decided to do it themselves
the differrence comes where the chinatowns have a couple of chinese immigrants who run some of the shops and are part of the local community, whereas these have near to no immigrants and it's just filled with high end chain brand stores
@@nevreiha ? This is a building in Macao. This is a place colonized by the West. It's funny that the comment is about the Communist Party of China
BritainTown
FranceTown
@@G.A.C_Preserve GhostTown
Eurotown
I hope they won’t forget that an authentic Europe has democracy, civil rights and freedoms
germany 1939 lmao
I kind of think the opposite was the point.
@@dihainthegreat It's 2022.
Didn't knew Russia, Hungary or Turkey had civil rights, democracy and freedoms.
belarus not authentic europe?
Literaly "Made in China"
I Wonder if they made the monuements out of plastic...
well, i was going to comment that, frick me i guess
Land of the knock offs
Made in Sh!tna
@@razvansimionescu7974 Now come on, China lifted millions out of poverty unlike the Qing Dynasty or the ROC
But in the end the CCP i guess isn’t that good.
@@razvansimionescu7974 like the products, you're using everyday.
They took “We have something at home” meme too seriously
What I find funny is years ago these cities were reported in the US as failed projects because they weren't instantly populated overnight as though you're playing Sims City in x4 speed. Now there are thousands of residents and people are still moving in
Good luck building Sagrada Familia
CCP: challenge accepted.
They will make a mould
Or big ben.
@@RealCherry8085 they will build big ben in 6 months if they want to
They're fast and efficient. They'll build in less than 10 years. Granted it won't look the same.
I prefer the regular Europe since it also comes with human rights
i prefer the regular europe simply
And not highly polluted air
@Osas👌 'a right which is believed to belong to every person.' No worries, you are welcome. Anytime mate.
China must of forgot that in Europe, people have a voice
human rights vary around the world
So determined they are to build their own Europe, that they even built one of Auschwitz in Xinjiang
Oh...
Lmao hahaha
Means they have 100s of copycats of guantanamo bay Throughout The country ;)
@@RealCherry8085 probably hundreds. They have slaves working in factories, blacksites are probably elementary to them
Hopefully the furnaces aren't in use.
Japan took their legacy architecture and built upon it. Curved roofs, onsens(hot baths) narrow streets, tiny facades.. They also attach deep importance to their cultural heritage in other areas like the martial arts, their version of chess (shogi) other board games like go. They also push their Shinto festivals to the extreme building colossal structures and dragging the through the streets. I mean we all love Japan, for the same reason we love a van gaugh-esque remote village with a wind mill in the Netherlands. It's unique and interesting yes but more importantly Authentic! The only way these European towns would've prospered in China is if they were built by Europeans living in China. Like China towns in the west. But without humans and culture these structures lack the most important component, a soul.
but they don't. Traditional buildings are basically gone from cities, being replaced with skyscrapers.
@@luka3174 Partially true. But the thing with Japan is that building codes are incredibly strict and older buildings are just cheaper and easier to demolish vs trying to bring it up to code.
I think a good example is the Harajuku station or capsule building that have both been demolished in the past few years. Although neither were of traditional Japanese architecture.
Oh well, the Japanese has built at least 8 European cities in their country and nobody has ever talked about it.
@@kimnguyen6825 Actually it does get lots of mentions. Generally speaking it's negative or just another example of Japanese being "crazy" like robot shows.
I swear people just talk to hear themselves talk. These European themed towns don’t even make up 1% if their infrastructure. It’s just a tiny part of a vast and diverse Chinese infrastructure. Everything has a theme and the skyscrapers are all uniquely shaped compared to the usual boxed shaped infrastructure of western countries
In China you don't visit European city,The City visit you.
Wait is that right?
China: Nobody's allowed visit Europe during lockdown.
Also China: Fine, I'll do it myself.
Actually, in China people are allowed to travel and even immigrate to any country that will take them.
@@llawliet666 immigrate? Yeah that’s debatable
@@remaks8405 Yea... doubt they can do that permanently. But they are allowed to go study abroad.
@@llawliet666 There is a income threshold most people I know living in China don't reach. Sometimes it from the visiting countries due to fear of people coming from lower income countries staying. But often time, it is a privilege for the rich that most aren't actually able to afford.
@@remaks8405 it is't north korea
Every Masterpiece has its cheap copy.
Does Huston Texas have a cheep copy?
@@GenericUrbanism maybe
I'm using that line when someone says they found someone who looks like me 💪😎
@@GenericUrbanism they said every masterpiece
@@GenericUrbanism Houston is the furthest thing away from a masterpiece
As a Chinese I would like to say that some of the older leaders have a low cultural appreciation and are always trying to imitate others clumsily. Of course, the most important thing I think is that these projects can create a lot of avenues for corruption
That sucks man, honestly it would have been way cooler if you guys used your own style of architecture. Chinese architecture is beautiful. It is a shame your leader didn't appreciate it.
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@@udyfrost6380 it's like you did not even watch the video holy jesus
This is clever. Africa should think about doing this so that they don't have mass migrations
@@udyfrost6380 He's saying "some of the older leaders", and they're banned now. Go to 6:31 of the video.
This brings "made in china" to a whole new level
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Many people in the comment seem to come to the conclusion that the Chinese don't build traditional Chinese architectures in China base on this video, that is not true. The European themed cities built in China probably don't even account for less than 0.1% of all the cities in China and as the video pointed out, they are built for affluent Chinese who appreciate European style buildings, it's just supply and demand. There are still a lot of historical buildings left in China even after Culture Revolution and they are building many more traditional Chinese style buildings in China. With the rise of the new Chinese nationalism in which history, culture and tradition play an essential role, I would expect to see even more traditional Chinese architectures been built.
USA did the same in Las Vegas, nothing new.
There's Eiffel Tower replica in Japan too, and alot of other countries.. European themed towns are also everywhere, I don't understand why people are mad at China because of that
@@Joooo89 imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Why does no one live there then, if they built it because of "high demand"?
@@mach2223 because is bought as a second home investment. all the ghost cities are sold like that.
Thing is that theese projects din't develop organically, like the cities they tried to imitate. Say if you built french style buildings in the central city of Shangai then they would be fully inhabited and crowded instead of it just being a sleeper suburb designed for people not to work in but instead go sleep at night.
which county are you of?
@@nevreiha I'll never tell anyone in the internet such sensitive information.
@@MrDude826 bro he's not asking your address💀 Just where you're from
@@ihavenoidea4317 Nah. I'm not taking any chances. There's more bots here than in West Berlin.
Well I think it's funny , and western architects and cities nowadays take themeselves so seriously that everything they build is boring and looks the same everywhere. The west has abandonned fantasy and fun. everytime a different kind of mindset is presented to western people, and it's not a mindset that is trending right now in globalized unimaginative architect firms ... Westerners pinch their noses with snobery. Yet... everybody stoped caring about western architecture since the 1950's. boring, uniformized , ugly.
If you want to film a movie 🎬 set in 🇬🇧 London or 🇫🇷 Paris, but can't afford to film in Europe, you know where to go.
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Would be fantastic for a comedy. And all the background extras could be Chinese and they should just never bring attention to that being odd, would be hilarious.
@@mieroth Lol, seeing Chinese extras speaking French, wearing berets and eating baguettes in the background and acting like that's the most normal thing ever.
Fun fact: Actually most of those movies are filmed in Prague, they just change the decoration and pretend it to be London or Paris.
@@Denyo666 and films set in NYC are filmed in Toronto
I visited one “British town” when I was visiting Shanghai. It was in a quite suburban area, with very few people, most of whom were lost tourists like myself. a bizarre experience like in an unpopular theme park. I’d rather see Shanghai.
I swear they're just knocking off the world for the meme at this point
"Eurobe™️, 100% original", for you I do special, a half-price"
This is my new favourite comment
It can only resemble Europe if it is designed by a Dutch Architect 😊
As a Europian myself, it's uncommon for me to see someone brag about his nationality. But I guess dutch are special at everything.
@@TheDimanoid999 HAHAH best comment ever and I'm also a Dutch person
@@TheDimanoid999 Maybe it is because the country is so small. You are happy with every little bit of attention it get's.
@@TheDimanoid999 Some countries are more proud of their country and their nationality than others. Smaller countries tend to be a bit more on prouder size imo. That would include my home country Finland too. Well... 'small'. Size isn't, but population is.
@@TheDimanoid999 Especially at stealing Bicycles :)
It's a Dutch national tradition
Chinese Europe: it's like European Europe, but without all the inconvenient democracy and human rights!
So Hungary
Democracy lol, it's fake democracy, we never voted for Von der Leyen.
@@FOLIPE Hungarians have actual democracy, they ask the people.
democracy in europe? nice joke
Very funny 🤣
Free Julian assange
It's just like Europe except 75% more likely to crumble.
Actually China is t he world's biggest fastest growing Economy in the world right now.
@@Denyo666 That's not quite true. China is the second largest economy in the world. It IS forecast to overtake the US as early as 2028 but more recently that has been extended out.
Between 2020 and 2021 China's GDP increased more than the US (8% to 6%) but since the US was larger to start with the gap in raw GDP actually grew slightly in favor of the US.
The global economy however has been tossed quite a curveball by recent event in Europe and global inflation.
Now China definitely has production capability and they make some cutting edge stuff. Building standards on the other hand is NOT one of those things.
@@Komainu959 Europe and China are both going to shit. China first tho.
As an Italian I think China has one of the most amazing cultures and histories in the world, so they don't need to do this stuff or to build skyscrapers without soul.
Italy definitely has the best architecture in the world and food, France, Germany, Scotland and Greece also
I swear people just talk to hear themselves talk. These European themed towns don’t even make up 1% if their infrastructure. It’s just a tiny part of a vast and diverse Chinese infrastructure. Everything has a theme and the skyscrapers are all uniquely shaped compared to the usual boxed shaped infrastructure of western countries
In sweden there is a huge hotel complex built by a chinese investor, it is called dragon gate and has a wierd feeling with it's huge statues and empty square, but it looks very majestetic, like an empty forbidden city.
Lack of creativity can always be compensated with majesty, lol
I was there at an epic rave festival. Raving with the terracotta army, once in a lifetime!
@@at6383 seems like you're going around telling people that they dont have any creativity, what a sad person
It is much safer to visit the real Forbidden City in Beijing.
@@CJONTHEHOUSE True, but looks like you are following me, even sadder.
Chinese Kid: Mom can we visit Europe?
Chinese Mom: We have already Europe at home.
Europe at home:
Is sad that they don't appreciate their own traditional Chinese architecture instead they look forward into European architecture styles. I would like to see ancient Chinese architecture buildings, is gonna be so much better
Chinese traditional architecture is very famous and there are many. Isn't diversity good? There are also many traditional Chinese garden buildings in Europe and the United States
中国人很欣赏自己的建筑，只是中国古代的传统建筑的建造成本太高了，而且不能满足中国的人口，中国人太多了，所以都是建高楼，在农村或者有钱人才住别墅和平房。
中国的传统建筑都保持的很好，每个城市都有自己独特的文化，中国的面积太大了，欧洲出去俄罗斯的面积也没有中国大，你也没来过中国更不了解中国，凭借着西方的媒体了解的中国就是真实的中国吗？我生活在中国这么多年，我知道中国特别重视传统文化和传统建筑，我们的文化一直在传承
so so yeah but they don’t build a replica of Great Wall or forbidden city in other countries right?
@@gytan2221 they have tons of chinese town are you blind?
It always amazes me how countries put down western countries, but want what they have literally.
it reminds me of the hypocrisy of representatives of the Kremlin as well as Russian oligarchs who heavily criticize the West but at the same time among them there are those who have French citizenship, have residences scattered throughout Europe, have children who study in the most prestigious universities US and European.
Some are completely ghost town because they are only for ULTRA rich person, which I could not afford that. Like idk what’s the point of building a town for ultra rich instead of rich and ultra rich.
Tianducheng (天都城) was developed by a subsidiary of the Zhenjiang Guangsha company, a real estate company listed in Shanghai. Construction began around 2007. Its central feature is 108-metre-tall (354-foot) replica of the Eiffel Tower and 31 km2 (12 sq mi) of Parisian-style architecture, fountains and landscaping. It opened in 2007, and can accommodate more than 10,000 residents. Initial occupancy was low, with an estimated 2,000 people living in the development by 2013, leading some to label it a ghost town. By 2017, however, its population had grown to 30,000 and the development was expanded several times. It now has its own metro station (named Huangheshan) as part of the Hangzhou metro network.
-from Wikipedia and other online sources
Mom, can we go to Europe?
Mom: No, we have Europe at home.
Europe at home:
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"Europe come to you"🤣
😂😂🤣
Every city has “Chinatown”
China has every city.
The voice of this guy makes these places so sad
I find it nice that Hallstatt and China has built a relationship around their shared town😂
I went there 3 times and found it an inauthentic experience, especially the one that was supposed to mimic France.
I went 3 times and didn't even get robbed once.
@@slslbbn4096 oh, in France... Robers must have been on strike then !
“The Chinese are very good at this sort of thing. Right now I am speaking to you from behind a pair of fake Raybands, wearing a fake Armani jacket, holding a fake Lois Vuitton bag, in which you can find a fake iPad and a fake iPhone. And if I consult my fake omega, it is 25 to 3, probably, which means it’s time to head over to the fake Starbucks over there for a cup of fake coffee.”
-Jeremy Clarkson
$300m to build a 10,000 resident town seems affordable. That’s only $30,000 per resident.
China getting back on all those countries with a China-Town. 🤣
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY IN CIVILIZATION 5 YOU’RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BUILD ONE IT RUINS THE POINT OF BEING GREAT!
Was gonna say why don't the French sue China for copyright over the tower but maybe that's just a dumb question lol
The tower isn't copyrighted anymore
There are legal grounds for something like that. That is cultural appropriation and counterfeiting, specially for China which doesn't share the same European values.
I'm curious what the "Canada town" would have looked like. We don't really have any internationally recognizable iconic architectural style.
a town full of maples
Québec?
Maybe parliament and Niagara falls. Throw in a couple Tim Hortons
I was just thinking this about this too.
Build a few rinks some bland strip malls with a Canadian Tire and a Tim’s. 😂
in english canada no.
"no more weird buildings with no cultural heritage" * literally has millions of generic vertical glass rectangles that look like any other city anywhere else except with tons and tons of pollution so you know its china *
Look at those tall “vertical rectangles again”, some of them looks better than the ones in Europe and the United States.
Tons and tons of pollution is BS, I literally lived in the third biggest city in China and you can barely call it polluted
Ah yes polution everywhere when China is the one who plant tree the most,investing the most in renewable energy especially electric vehicle,you just hate China don't you?
They also destroy habitat to get materials. Then destroy more habitat to build pointless buildings that will crumble in 10 years. All for nothing. Repeat repeat repeat
@MysticalKO because it's a totalitarian hellhole that treats its citizens like slaves. Nobody's hating on Taiwan, the real inheritors of Chinese culture.
@MysticalKO Not rhat personal when many Chinese people had to wear face masks for health reasons long before covid
All are not rich to visit world, nor they get tourist visa to all countries.
Having 10% of world population in a single country, it's good step taken by China.
Also the architectural designs would be easier for the students to see and learn as they may not visit every monuments worldwide.
It's more like a economic-educational-recreational-historical-tourism aspect.
1:13 9 towns are mimicking Canada, China, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, UK.
1:46 7 of 9 towns were actually build.
4:55 Austrian town of Hallstatt. So there was actually 10 towns planned?
Why are people acting so negative on this? I personally find this really cute.
It's like the Chinatowns in America (In terms of design, not purpose), except that it's more like a theme park.
Yes, I think its fine untill they acknowledge it.
I would love to have something like this in my country. It would be so awesome to live like you are in some other country.
tacky as hell
It is a bad idea because it comes forcefully and not after a human natural development of the society.
The reason I would mostly say "meh" in terms of how I feel about this is the fact that they aren't trying to implement things of locations but instead are IDENTICALLY copying ENTIRE cities
The problem is how fake and un organic it feels. This is the same problem with many of these cities China builds that are empty. They don't have organic growth and they let the rich buy up everything (that's what they do to invest their money), so they are never populated.
The only thing these cities are good for is collecting dust and maybe for movies.
for a country that goes "west is bad" at every chance they have, they really want to be the west so badly
The government and its people are two entities.
These real estate developers likely loved the idea and moved forward with it. This is before the recent moves of the government to control everything
Their biggest wish is to get recognized by the free world
@@ayoCC at the end of the day, everyone knows that every piece of land is own by the government. If they hate it so much it would be long gone. If they want it gone, it will be gone. Thwy have no issue in removijg occupants of home forcefully and tear the place down infront of them. So i don't really see the issue there.
@@saint_matthias How can you know what people wish for? That's nonsense that's what you think.
Fun fact. There's a German town named Dietfurt that does the opposite.
I think pple are overlooking the fact that these are about 10 cities in a country with over 600 cities.
Yeah maybe building entire towns is weird, but it's less than 5% of the entire country
A lot of problem would be solved if people are only allowed to buy one house.
At least it's not full of Parisians
I like it. It’s just tiny pieces of the country. It’s not like it’s even 1% of China. But, the bubble ruins it. Funny how you mentioned Vegas, because Chinese investors also created a bubble there.
Exactly like Europe. Except the human rights. And freedom. And democracy. And culture.
So basically Poland
@@FOLIPE Are you on drugs?..or yes.
So, anti-Europe?
Omg it explains a lot, few months ago I and my girlfriend drove to Songjiang ,and we saw a lot of British style buildings there and we were totally confused
Admiration is the reason for imitation of a style, fashion.
Can European countries legally sue China, for coping there cities?
Copyright law isn’t really a thing given the whole communism shtick they have going on over there
Na mate there's no such a thing
Lol alot of countries copying European buildings including Eiffel Tower.. 🤣
Well western countries do have China-towns.
@@irimeyilmaz956 bcz of Chinese
cringe, as a chinese, i can safely say we kinda lost our own identity/culture at some point
that point was mao zedongs cultural revolution
I don't think so, China is big and has lots of Chinese architecture left. Even in my town there are 3 buildings Chinese architecture built 300 years ago, by Europeans, not Chinese
Wow everyone's so negative about this, there's literally China town in a lot of Western cities, why can't China have Europe towns? lol
People who live in China towns in cities in the west are mostly Asians, and they live in democratic countries. People who live in "Europe towns" in China are only Chinese ... They live in a dictatorship.
China towns in the US have been inhabited by actual Chinese people. Europeans do not live in these Chinese copycat towns.
they don't compare, the china towns are integrated into the western cities and built by Chinese immigrants, these European towns are built by large Chinese companies for profit and they just create blatant copies without any creative input.
I think the difference is that the Chinatowns were built by immigrants who tried to share or remind of them their own culture. These were built by Chinese (with the help of European architects) as copies of western cities to promote tourism.
Probably because people discriminate China/ese
Should imitate Japan. They have quite nice architecture and they're more Asian.
Chinese Kid: I want to go on a European trip.
Chinese Mom: We already have that at home.
Europeans: That's funny, but you still should experience the real deal.
We should point at these towns when modern day architects say that we cant build these kind of building anymore (when they try to push their brutalist hellscapes).
Some buildings can’t be built anymore because of modern zoning codes, not a conspiracy of architects devoted to a style that peaked in the 1960s. Also, European and US architects still build buildings in classical styles, so I’m not sure what you’re on about.
@@beej741 It's evident that most architects have absolutely no clue of the classical tradition, just look at all the McMansions and faux classical mockeries built here in the US.
@@beej741 but man are they exhausting to look at. Such waste of everything for nothing
I believe rather than building a city their idea is to build a europe based theme park.
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These cities aren't built for you, they're built for affluent Chinese, who are nueve-rich and have corresponding tastes. Before jumping to conclusions like a jacked rabbit, THIS is pure "supply and demand", something that the housing markets in virtually all developed nations is lacking, despite expounding "free-market" values.
But like, that's Paris man
@@moredetailsinmessage7969 Yeah that's true, apart from the burning cars part
@@sitfish1113 I get your point, and that's exactly what customers want. Think it this way: back in the early 20th, Westerners were copying Chinese and Japanese arts and porcelain. You can easily look up Chinese patterns on vases made in France, that were obviously much cheaper than the real thing.
@@tonysoviet3692 Yeah but thats cultural diffusion and completely normal for it to go both ways. I guess the europe city is sorta the same as something like a China Town.
If they are rich, then just buy a freaking airport ticket to Europe or something. And happily spend their time there
They‘re getting movie sets to the next level and then decide to let people live there 🌚
China to Europe
"Notice me senpai"
Oh great, more overpriced Chinese real estate bought with cheap credit, that ought to go well
Honestly it's not a big problem if they do it right. You also get people from Japan planting cherry blossom in Europe or you have the Chinese garden in Germany. Just don't build this upon some inferiority complex, build this on the basis of friendly cultural exchange. If it is done that way, it is healthy for everyone. It will be pretty interesting if the European countries also build.
They did a pretty tour job honestly
They built it for wedding pictures too
And thats why i dont trust landmarks in geoguessr
Me: i want to go europe
Mom: we have europe at home
Europe at home:
Imagine kidnapping an Parisian and bringing him there without him noticing
But he/she will still noticed... Bcoz of ppl, smell, and presence.... This in China looks creepy just like in movie .
It's funny that people in the comment section thinks that China doesn't preserve their culture and tradition, like didn't they know that there a lot of places that still preserve the culture
actually that the reason. china lost so much their culture in cultural revolution 90% gone the rest in just fake one or just rebuild. and then they still want to invade Taiwan because they lose their own culture
This is just a theme town .... People from many countries don't understand China and apply their own country's experience to China, which has a very large territory and a large population, and there are always people who like European style architecture. This actually reflects the fact that China is very receptive to foreign cultures. China has not only traditional architecture, but also a lot of it, and more and more after these decades, you can see almost any architectural school in China, not only European, but even abstract architecture and some bewildering architecture. there are many videos of Chinese street scenes on UA-cam that are not hard to find.
when poor taste and infinite stupidity meets unearned, unworked money.
1:45 Hold up, Canadian architecture? So, houses and buildings with basements???
Chinese citizens: I want to travel the world and see the Eiffel tower!
Xi: we have eiffel tower at home
Eiffel tower at home:
6:50 Xi is literally trying to stop this, did you even watch the video?
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😂😂 funny
Moving people out of city to easy congestion in a city is dumbest idea ever. India also tried this with New Delhi.
Only way to deal with the congestion is to design a better city
Chinese kid: Mom can we see Europe?
Mom: We already have Europe
Europe at home: ...
mimicking foreign architecture is good to a certain degree, and can be a helpful part of cross-cultural interaction. However to take it to this degree is an absurd and superfluous endeavor that gives very little practical return compared to the investment. I can't say I'm surprised that most of these happened in Shanghai, they've gained a reputation of being economically rich and culturally poor for the past century, as well as a weird cockiness and disdain toward the rest of China, preferring western cultural products instead of our own. This is probably at least partially due to historical reason, as Shanghai was home to some of the biggest foreign colonies back in the day, with a significant part of its land governed by western agencies. Many of us consider Shanghai quite an embarrassment but that doesn't stop them from being full of themselves, so what can you do really...
So mainly Shanghai because Shanghai likes western culture over Chinese culture.
@@GenericUrbanism uh I didn't want to put it so bluntly but... yeah... If you just look at the buildings in Shanghai and compare those to other large cities you'd notice that Shanghai has a jarring lack of Chinese cultural elements.
China took "made in china" to a whole level
China is looking really sus right now
I'm getting resident evil vibes
What's interesting is that there is not only a Dutch appearing town in China, there is also a big themepark in Japan made to look like Amsterdam.. It's just incredibly odd.
People here seem to think it's kind of cool that other countries appreciate our architecture but also feel like it's reducing our country to a set of stereotypes (the windmills and canals), although these are some unique features of our country we also feel like many people around the world get a very warped idea of what our country actually looks like.
Het is zo bizar om dat park te zien
What's the themepark's name
You really messed up things. The Dutch theme park is a diplomatic present from the Netherlands located at Nagasaki, where there used to be a Dutch trading post centuries ago
It's just a theme park. Japanese people do not live within that design.
You should cure your paranoia. It's just a themepark. Japanese people do not live within that design.
To be honest, if I was living in China, I too would like to pretend that I lived in Europe.
Why? you been there or spoken with people there? It's nonsense that the world thinks that everyone not from the west want to live in Europe.
Very impressive actually. Although it wouldnt have the historical aspect of the real thing, It would be a great change of scenery for those who wanted to lived in it without having to deal with the cultural shock and finishing all the pile of paperworks that needed to be done to actually living in another country. I think tourism both from external and domestic is not everything all there is although i have to say, some of these projects is indeed looks very beautiful. There is still a lot of possibility they could do with it especially for those who planned to live there. The project itself is not over yet.
It would be an understatement to say that the Chinese doesnt understand the historical value of the real europe. They are a bunch of business experts and China has its own historical sites, of course they understands that.
But making "europe town" has its own benefits. Apparently, those benefits is worth chasing under their calculation. This might have something to do with their communist ideology or alternatively it didnt have anything to do with it because we know china's approach is very pragmatic when it comes to economic plans.
For me honestly, i'm more interested on seeing these projects on its final form. Seriously, i would want to see european styled buildings on the beautiful and unique chinese landscape. Maybe we could also see Wuxia films being made in there, who knows.. That will have a charm on its own.
They should have also imported 10 000 people for each replica of FRANCE, SPAIN, GERMANY..ect, to have it really feel 'real'. Without the people living in them, the architecture will just feel like empty buildings..
They took "Made in China" too literally
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Because is very profitable.
US did it in Vegas and made huge profits.
I'm pretty sure no one visits China to see a fake Eiffel Tower lmao, and Vegas is known more for casinos and it's entertainment rather than architecture
China:"We want to preserve history."
Europe: **gulps**
I appreciate this video, but like anything else, things must be catered to that country's individual tastes and situation. This reminds me of the little towns and regions that exist in the US (Chinatown, Little Italy, Little Saigon, etc.) but there are key differences that exist between the Western countries and China, notably the heterogeneous nature (and excellent recruiting campaigns) of the West compared to China (who doesn't recruit as many foreigners), which prides itself on its homogeneous culture. If China recruited or encouraged more people from other countries to live in these towns (e.g. encouraging Italians to move or study in their version of Little Italy) it would achieve that authentic feel that China was hoping for. Instead, it feels more like a tourist location for Chinese nationals, which is fine, but the rich Chinese who buy these properties need to market it as a tourist destination rather than as a living, breathing small foreign city. Personally, I don't think this is cultural appropriation because the Chinese government took the time to recreate things authentically and got assistance from outside developers and architects. If it fosters stronger relationships with other Western countries, then I don't see why others would take offense over the recreation of these cities.
Didn't the BM1 cover this a few years ago
"European cities" *conveniently ignores the one Canadian flag* 1:45
Well, Canada is European after all, same goes for US, Australia, New Zealand
7:36
This is pragmatic design guys
This is like an episode of Danger Mouse where they have to fight someone who steals cities and puts them in other countries
Thats one way to copy a homework i guess
It just lacks all of it's history, actual Europeans, freedom's laws, items, life, air and land...but other than that Its a direct replica.!...