This was me, too! I overlooked this pen for such a long time because it was only available in black and looked so plain (compared to all the fun, swirly acrylic pens out there). But, when I finally owned one, I was like, "Why didn't I get this sooner!!?!?!?!" -Tom
Same here. I thought I would hate it. I held one at Anderson Pens in Chicago and didn't like it at all. I bought a Pilot Custom 823 instead, which is a wonderful pen. But now I have the Lamy 200 Stainless Steel Fine and it's wonderful. I ink it with Earl Grey by Diamine, a perfect match. I love writing with it posted, which is unsual for me. It's heavy but it has a fulcrum and it just flows, so perfect.
Your evaluation of the “sweet spot” issue is on point. Several content creators have tested the Lamy 2000 and it has the same angle versatility as any nib. People just don’t realize they’re turning it on its side.
It is basic, but look at the design. Look at the Braun shaver of the time. Same design aesthetic. As you mentioned the thing that blows me away is how the piston knob is so well constructed. I love how you can’t see the seam. Very well engineered.
An interesting video on the Lamy 2K. I have one with a Fine nib & another in an Extra Fine that I've had for more than a year now. I've wanted the stainless steel model for a long time, and finally found one with an Extra Fine nib at a very good price. If as you've said, you plan on getting another one, and if you like a finer line then I would suggest you get the Extra Fine. Western nibs in general tend to write with a wider line, and Lamy definitely writes with a wider line.
I'd argue that exceptionally done simplicity is what people overlook when they just see the 2000; it's something that needs the tactile experience to fully appreciate.
Mine is on the way. I really like my Lamy Studio, and I am hoping it will be even more wonderful than that. It will be my second gold nib. My first gold nib is a Pilot Grance. I bought the L2K in a fine. I hope it’s not too feedback-ridden. We’ll see!
I also held off getting the Lamy 2000, buying one long after I had many others. It’s my main writing tool now; I really like it. I love the understated design. It doesn’t attract attention from non pen-enthusiasts, but the engineering is fantastic. For me it lives up to all the hype.
Goulet did a great video diving into the details of the Lamy 2000 nib. The "sweet-spot" people refer to isn't so much related to the semi-hooded design. It's actually related to the grind on the nibs, which isn't the traditional ball shape tip. EF/F tend to have a slight architect style grind, and M+ sizes have a slight stub shape. These naturally have 'sharp' edges that limit rotation more than typical ball-tipped fountain pens. But I agree, the sweet-spot isn't nearly as dramatic as people make it sound. Also it is one of (if not my very) my favorite models ❤ ua-cam.com/video/wlSze2E5ADU/v-deo.html
I am so grateful for this video. I got a Lamy 2000 as a gift from my husband. He unfortunately got me a medium and my writing is too small so it looks like I am writing with a wet sharpie...that's not the real problem: its the skipping the fluctuations in line width and then the hard starts. I am very disappointed in the way the seller is handling this because while the line width is not a surprise, the skipping, line width variation and hard starts that confirm there is a problem. Yes I have a. emptied cleaned and refilled the pen after letting it dry; b: I have tried gently spreading the tines - its how I got past one of the hard starts - even after all of the above, I am having hard starts, fluctionations in line width - from (guesstimate) 0.7+mm to hairline and skipping of course as I write. Thoughts? Advice?
Hard starts and skipping are generally because of ink flow issue or alignment or spacing between the tines. May be you need to inspect your nib under a 15x lens to find out the exact problem and take action. I think in most of the cases it is by adjusting the space between tines that fixes the problem. I did the same with my mint blanc 146 and it worked. Also try writing on hard surfaced paper with a little extra pressure for some time which may fix the tines.
@@alihayder1238 Thank you this is real help - one last question if you do not mind: is it even possible to replace the medium nib with a fine / extra fine nib or nib unit? [The first misstep was the medium nib - I have small cursive handwriting.....] Regardless you have been so helpful....
People who know how to write correctly with a fountain pen will always write on the "sweet spot". Most of the videos I see show writers holding fountain pens either too upright, the nib on an angle or both. Its not a ball point pen or a pencil.
I have the black and the stainless steel model. Out of over a hundred pens the stainless is my favorite. It’s perfect. The sweet spot thing is absolutely true. But only on days of the week that have a “y” in them. Other times not so much.
I gotta disagree. I think Lamy 2Ks do have a sweet spot. You're exactly right when you say that "when you write with the pen square to the page," everything is fine. The problem is that a lot of people, myself included, will tend to twist their hand very slightly, or rock them very slightly to the inside or outside, as they write, and when they do, the pen will no longer be square to the page. The Lamy 2K is very unforgiving if you move off that square, and it will skip. Most other pens are not quite as strict and will write fine even if you twist very slightly. However, having said all that, I really like the Lamy 2K. It's just a matter of being a bit careful with it at first until you get into the habit/feel of not letting your hand twist as you write with it.
That ‘sweet spot’ got very annoying after a while so I bought a nib from a nib guy and it’s much better now. I can’t believe lamy doesn’t smooth and polish their nibs better for this pen. Then again, most lamy nibs are terrible.
Snap caps are always superior. If they're well engineered, ink drying is not an issue. Screw-on is an anachronism and there really isn't a point to it unless you like the aesthetic.
From the outside look no one would steal it . Even when you open it 😐 .....it lacks the appearance and the elegance of a fountain pen . Sorry it looks like those rollerball pen of $0.5 from a flee market.
Evening, Understandable. However, before you shoot you can get a manicure and moisturise your hands. It is a tad difficult to focus on the pen and your narrative with chapped nails in constant view. As for Lamy I've loved them since my 80's student days, but for some reason I have completely forgotten them. Thanks for rekindling my interest. All the best with the channel. It's my 1st time and I'm commenting from Lagos, Nigeria.
@@DylanAndLeslie dont mind but i am just making a point that the complaints of the people about the sweet spot are absolutely true and i dont know why lamy grind their 2000 nibs in different way. they have ruined the whole experience with it.thanks.
If there is a sweet spot, it’s so normal that I cannot pinpoint it in anyway… but maybe I’m not too concerned about it as I write so much with it that I might have just got used with its writing…
This was me, too! I overlooked this pen for such a long time because it was only available in black and looked so plain (compared to all the fun, swirly acrylic pens out there). But, when I finally owned one, I was like, "Why didn't I get this sooner!!?!?!?!" -Tom
Nice to have you here Tom. I love your content.
That click is so satisfying, I'm still trying to come around to the traditional threaded pen caps.
Same here. I thought I would hate it. I held one at Anderson Pens in Chicago and didn't like it at all. I bought a Pilot Custom 823 instead, which is a wonderful pen. But now I have the Lamy 200 Stainless Steel Fine and it's wonderful. I ink it with Earl Grey by Diamine, a perfect match. I love writing with it posted, which is unsual for me. It's heavy but it has a fulcrum and it just flows, so perfect.
Your evaluation of the “sweet spot” issue is on point. Several content creators have tested the Lamy 2000 and it has the same angle versatility as any nib. People just don’t realize they’re turning it on its side.
It is basic, but look at the design. Look at the Braun shaver of the time. Same design aesthetic. As you mentioned the thing that blows me away is how the piston knob is so well constructed. I love how you can’t see the seam. Very well engineered.
agreed. It is more than meets the eye
An interesting video on the Lamy 2K. I have one with a Fine nib & another in an Extra Fine that I've had for more than a year now. I've wanted the stainless steel model for a long time, and finally found one with an Extra Fine nib at a very good price. If as you've said, you plan on getting another one, and if you like a finer line then I would suggest you get the Extra Fine. Western nibs in general tend to write with a wider line, and Lamy definitely writes with a wider line.
From my experience, the 2000 has an even wider nib than the safaris for example. I say safari because I only have safari and 2000 from Lamy
I'd argue that exceptionally done simplicity is what people overlook when they just see the 2000; it's something that needs the tactile experience to fully appreciate.
I agree
Mine is on the way. I really like my Lamy Studio, and I am hoping it will be even more wonderful than that. It will be my second gold nib. My first gold nib is a Pilot Grance. I bought the L2K in a fine. I hope it’s not too feedback-ridden. We’ll see!
I also held off getting the Lamy 2000, buying one long after I had many others. It’s my main writing tool now; I really like it. I love the understated design. It doesn’t attract attention from non pen-enthusiasts, but the engineering is fantastic. For me it lives up to all the hype.
UA-cam algorithm passive aggressive reminding me subtly that I need to study instead of being on UA-cam
Brendan and Atlas are awesome
Goulet did a great video diving into the details of the Lamy 2000 nib. The "sweet-spot" people refer to isn't so much related to the semi-hooded design. It's actually related to the grind on the nibs, which isn't the traditional ball shape tip. EF/F tend to have a slight architect style grind, and M+ sizes have a slight stub shape. These naturally have 'sharp' edges that limit rotation more than typical ball-tipped fountain pens. But I agree, the sweet-spot isn't nearly as dramatic as people make it sound. Also it is one of (if not my very) my favorite models ❤
ua-cam.com/video/wlSze2E5ADU/v-deo.html
That’s how I feel too. I have other jobs that are far more “finicky”
Rarely have I been disappointed with German design and engineering...Lamy is no exception
I would love to get one but I love my CP1 which costs less 😅 I’m having a hard time justifying the price of the 2k 🙃
I want a CP1 as well. I really like them
Buy used
I have black and peacock blue in my 2, my wife has purple and teal. I just ordered 2 more pens.
I am so grateful for this video. I got a Lamy 2000 as a gift from my husband. He unfortunately got me a medium and my writing is too small so it looks like I am writing with a wet sharpie...that's not the real problem: its the skipping the fluctuations in line width and then the hard starts. I am very disappointed in the way the seller is handling this because while the line width is not a surprise, the skipping, line width variation and hard starts that confirm there is a problem. Yes I have a. emptied cleaned and refilled the pen after letting it dry; b: I have tried gently spreading the tines - its how I got past one of the hard starts - even after all of the above, I am having hard starts, fluctionations in line width - from (guesstimate) 0.7+mm to hairline and skipping of course as I write. Thoughts? Advice?
Hard starts and skipping are generally because of ink flow issue or alignment or spacing between the tines. May be you need to inspect your nib under a 15x lens to find out the exact problem and take action. I think in most of the cases it is by adjusting the space between tines that fixes the problem. I did the same with my mint blanc 146 and it worked. Also try writing on hard surfaced paper with a little extra pressure for some time which may fix the tines.
@@alihayder1238 Thank you this is real help - one last question if you do not mind: is it even possible to replace the medium nib with a fine / extra fine nib or nib unit? [The first misstep was the medium nib - I have small cursive handwriting.....] Regardless you have been so helpful....
A lot of thought went into the design of this design classic. I expect nothing less from German engineers.
Great video. Loved it. Very well done.
I'm a collector, but I rather buy the one in metal.
it's NOT funny you want it in a medium and fine. I did just that! :) I completely understand. I agree with you! great pen!
Haha I agree
I’m on my third one and it’s been my everyday pen for about 5 years. Absolutely love it.
They say it has a sweet spot. For me, it’s natural
People who know how to write correctly with a fountain pen will always write on the "sweet spot". Most of the videos I see show writers holding fountain pens either too upright, the nib on an angle or both. Its not a ball point pen or a pencil.
Just name them differently and mark one w/a small sticker or something.
An American meets German engineering. Priceless! (I mean NO disrespect!!)
I have many German engineered products
I've thought about a Lamy 2k for years. I just never get around to it! Its style always reminds me of an old Flair marker.
We are dating ourselves. Thought they were bland, and even more bland writing with. Great concept for that time.
I have the black and the stainless steel model. Out of over a hundred pens the stainless is my favorite. It’s perfect. The sweet spot thing is absolutely true. But only on days of the week that have a “y” in them. Other times not so much.
Mine broke where the cap joined the pen body.. While in the bag.. No idea how it happened. Never happened to any other pen
I will stick to my vintage Parker 51
Oh that would be cool too. It’s on my list
I don't need a pen but I watch and let you know
I gotta disagree. I think Lamy 2Ks do have a sweet spot. You're exactly right when you say that "when you write with the pen square to the page," everything is fine. The problem is that a lot of people, myself included, will tend to twist their hand very slightly, or rock them very slightly to the inside or outside, as they write, and when they do, the pen will no longer be square to the page. The Lamy 2K is very unforgiving if you move off that square, and it will skip. Most other pens are not quite as strict and will write fine even if you twist very slightly. However, having said all that, I really like the Lamy 2K. It's just a matter of being a bit careful with it at first until you get into the habit/feel of not letting your hand twist as you write with it.
I get what you are saying. I just don’t find it as finicky as the internet would want us to believe
Now THAT is the point… it might be there… but nothing to be alarmed about.
All fountain pens have sweet spots.
I had one……had…..someone stole it off my desk at work, now I use a bic pen.
why would you leave an expensive pen unattended???
That ‘sweet spot’ got very annoying after a while so I bought a nib from a nib guy and it’s much better now. I can’t believe lamy doesn’t smooth and polish their nibs better for this pen. Then again, most lamy nibs are terrible.
I’m good with my Jinhao 80.
It’s a rod that makes a line of ink.
Technically it’s a tube, a piston, or rod, some gold, some iridium some stainless steel, …. And some ink.
never knew this is a thing
Fountain pens?
That "sweet spot" myth needs to die. All fountain pens have a sweet spot.
Agreed
I thought this was a joke about David Lamy. Nope. It's a real pen.
Lamy 2k is modern days' 51.
It is almost a pen I would say nice but the metal part is slippery. So far I like only the matte Lamy pens.
The pen and the section are both textured.
Another hooded nib! I like my hooded pen.
i thought this would be a smart pen... (stylus/pen)
What is best, a screw-on cap or snap-on cap or is there really a difference?
it depends on how good the snap cap is. this one is amazing
screw on prevents ink from evaporating better, imo
Snap caps are always superior. If they're well engineered, ink drying is not an issue.
Screw-on is an anachronism and there really isn't a point to it unless you like the aesthetic.
From the outside look no one would steal it .
Even when you open it 😐 .....it lacks the appearance and the elegance of a fountain pen .
Sorry it looks like those rollerball pen of $0.5 from a flee market.
You need to get Khaby Lame as your endorser
its always so fascinating how positive and supportive humans can be.... (not you. other ones)
Had two of them. One cracked and replaced. Other one cracked and never again. Not my “go to pen” ever again.
That's because you overtightened them. It's not an issue with the steel version.
where did it crack?
Cracked at threads at nib. SS version is plastic inner so expect same issues.
@@ASta-ry2xo Sounds like over tightening or cross threading.
Epic pass.. Can't beat the Jetstream pens I have been using for the last 3 years 🎉 all for a chips and a coke 🎉
Not much of a fountain pen person?
Not sure you convinced me to spend $230
No worries. If it’s not your thing I get it.
I wish more time was spent on improving the cursive skills rather than instrument itself 🤣
I don’t like cursive.
You need to stop buying fountain pens and invest into some nail clippers dude. It looks like you are bitting your nails way too much
It’s been a habit for many years. Difficult one to kick.
Evening,
Understandable. However, before you shoot you can get a manicure and moisturise your hands. It is a tad difficult to focus on the pen and your narrative with chapped nails in constant view.
As for Lamy I've loved them since my 80's student days, but for some reason I have completely forgotten them. Thanks for rekindling my interest.
All the best with the channel. It's my 1st time and I'm commenting from Lagos, Nigeria.
@@kokukonu578 you are welcome to leave a superheat or super thanks to fund a manicure if it is that important to you
@@DylanAndLeslie Salty. Have a great evening.
lol not at all. I’m not upset about anything…
There is DEFINITELY a sweet spot on this pen and it’s very ANNOYING! So please don’t mislead people.
No misleading… I just don’t feel it the same way you do I guess. I think it’s very user dependent. Thanks for sharing though.
@@DylanAndLeslie dont mind but i am just making a point that the complaints of the people about the sweet spot are absolutely true and i dont know why lamy grind their 2000 nibs in different way. they have ruined the whole experience with it.thanks.
For you maybe. I love it
If there is a sweet spot, it’s so normal that I cannot pinpoint it in anyway… but maybe I’m not too concerned about it as I write so much with it that I might have just got used with its writing…
I also find the absence of a grip and the tapered barrel makes the pen difficult to hold for long periods of time. I think it's highly overrated.
I really dont think you gave any convincing arguments in favor of such an expensive and boring looking pen. Yeah I dont own one.
I know they are not for everyone.
Bro can’t fathom clean, thoughtful and well built design. They have crayons at the stationery store for you
I mean… I wouldn’t be that condescending about it, but ok.
You can always use a BIC.
This is To GDH for a Pen . Not all That
Huh ?
I absolutely dont need it🤷♂️
Makes sense.
No No all the way for me... The design is off putting and drab... That may be different for you though.
I totally get that.
expensive & boring, do not need it
Thanks for sharing
Dude get a manicure or get a hand model please
Feel free to send a super chat or super thanks to fund said manicure if it’s that important to you
Please stop chewing your finger nails off
I have been doing it for many years. It’s a constant fight.
Why do you care so much
looks like shit though
Get a life and perhaps start to appreciate real design instead of brooding in your basement.
I’m guessing all bauhaus design is shit too eh