27 ... I have the Slow Lope session, but have only watched the first 3 clips, I've been busy Riding my hoss's, was a Beautiful weekend here in the Heartland & I want to Go as much as I can before the snow flies ... just attended a weekend clinic presented by a John Lyons certified trainer this weekend . . . spare me Mr Larry!
Hi Larry, not sure if the stop during the supple exercise counts but here are the two that I counted... stops and cues 1 - 1min 17secs relax seat and release all drive pressure 2 - 2mins 40 relax seat, light pressure on mouth I am registered on your site as circlej
Hi Larry, thanks again for a very informative video. Having watched the video I think you stopped the horse 4 times predominately by relaxing the pressure of your legs on the horse, once I think you also relaxed your body and sat on your pockets as an additional cue. Again, thanks for the video they are always appreciated. Denis Humphreys Tamworth NSW Australia.
Thanks for the great video, there is always more to learn it seems. You relaxed your body, and stopped riding. I didn't actually see you do this but I believe you also closed your fingers - so you are literally riding the horse with your finger tips.
Hi Shannon, The way you use your hands is more important than a certain type of bit. If you go to the home page of my website, you'll see a link which describes the entire bitting process.
As I watched you I counted three stops. Cues that I saw posture deep in the saddle no leg and a pull and release with your reins. My horse doesn't always respond the first time I have to repeat pull and release.
I believe you relaxed in the seat and took you feet of of him. What is the bit are you using if you can disclose it? If it's what I think is it's a great bit.
ltrocha is it a snaffle? am in the market for a new one, and plan to visit your site tonight to check yours out b/c I love the correction bit I got from you a few years back, has been on my big gray hoss ever since ... do work him and my cutter in snaffles for fine tuning . . . you are the Real Deal ~
Hi Josh, at the time we shot this video, the horse was either 4 or 5 years old. The bit is a Bill Freeman, low-port, original line. And Bill's original line of bits, have the best feel of any bit I've ever used. Bill makes two lines of bits, his original line and his Wrangler line. I prefer his original line.
I thought I saw 6 stops...including the ones during the initial supple exercises. Best I could tell was you sat deeper, maybe relaxed your legs. Thanks for the free video! Tina
Oops i think it was 5 times Larry ask the horse to stop, lol. Also looks like a correction bit, love using them, my horses also drops the head on a snaffle... I just prefer the correction bit.
So I got overzealous and typed my answer on the "comments" on your website. Haha oops. Anyways here it is again: I saw 3 full stops. The first "stop" doesn't count because you're still asking for lateral flexion even though the horse isn't travelling forward. When you asked for the stop your body relaxed and you lowered your hands... You "quit riding him". :-)
View this training video and pay attention to the number of times I STOP this horse. Watch closely and see if you can detect HOW I asked this horse to stop. What cues did I use? Type your answer below the video in the "Comments". Don't worry, I won't criticize if you get it wrong. I'm just interested to see how many folks get it right. Thanks for participating. I'm looking forward to your answer. Larry T
Hello. I believe you relaxed your body and set the reins back down in the position to were you would be ready to pick them up again to start another section. Thanks for the video.
[1:18] You were already relax in your seat, but you didn't seem to sit deep in the saddle. He was already paying attention to you and you didn't que him with your hands. I think maybe he's just a lazy turd.
You stopped 4.5 times.. the half was a stop but not for long. Transfer the weight to your back pockets to stop the horse or sit deep in the saddle and release the pressure on his sides. The cues were very subtle
The horse I'm riding will kind of yo-yo. I do the bump/seesaw, and I let go once she goes to put her head down, but it immediately comes right back up.
Dear Mr. Trochanter your beautiful horse stopped because you stopped riding: Your body is not telling your horse to move forward. I started my horse with your technique and he stops when I stop with no reins. Hope this is right:-)
Looks like you gave a cue with both leg against the horse to brings his hind legs under him so he would stop on his hind end and just stopped moving your own body.
you actually stopped him 3 times by not driving him forward, he thought about stopping once in the beginning but you continued to drive him forward. When you want the stop, you stopped riding.
I agree that he has to keep the spurs and legs on him to keep him going, but I notice the subtle motion of Larry's feet (taking the spur away) and a position change in his legs (taking the leg pressure away). I did not notice much rein action, but then I was watching his body most of the time.
Hi Larry, I think you stopped your horse 4 times, he did stop very shortly another time. Each time you stopped you did nothing! just stopped riding him, Regards, Gill (UK)
I believe you stopped 7 times. You used your feet by squeezing to go and releasing to stop. Several of you're stops were very short but there was a break in stride.
If a horse hangs on the bit and is not supple, it is a problem with the hind legs, everything that happens up front is a direct result of the hind quarter, if he doesn't give he is not bad, or stupid he is physically unable, ask yourself why. when you have a horse that is uncomfortable in his body (sore, or a crooked rider for example) and then you force the head and bump and seesaw and force him to put his head where you want it without considering his physical needs then you are a poor trainer. If instead you rode him correctly from behind and placed his hind legs in the correct position and left his head alone, his head would fall to where you need it without all the big bits and jabbing in the jaw.
Thanks for getting back to me.
27 ... I have the Slow Lope session, but have only watched the first 3 clips, I've been busy Riding my hoss's, was a Beautiful weekend here in the Heartland & I want to Go as much as I can before the snow flies ... just attended a weekend clinic presented by a John Lyons certified trainer this weekend . . . spare me Mr Larry!
I wish you could come to the east coast. Love your training style, love your videos; would be nice to experience it in 3D with instant feedback.
Hi Laura, Get your friends together, pay my traveling and clinic expenses and I may be able to do it.
Stopped 4 times when you stopped riding. Thanks for the help with lightness. Good stuff
Hi Larry, not sure if the stop during the supple exercise counts but here are the two that I counted...
stops and cues
1 - 1min 17secs
relax seat and release all drive pressure
2 - 2mins 40
relax seat, light pressure on mouth
I am registered on your site as circlej
Hi Larry, thanks again for a very informative video. Having watched the video I think you stopped the horse 4 times predominately by relaxing the pressure of your legs on the horse, once I think you also relaxed your body and sat on your pockets as an additional cue. Again, thanks for the video they are always appreciated. Denis Humphreys Tamworth NSW Australia.
Thanks for the great video, there is always more to learn it seems.
You relaxed your body, and stopped riding. I didn't actually see you do this but I believe you also closed your fingers - so you are literally riding the horse with your finger tips.
Pretty close to being correct. My fingers did nothing though..
Hey Larry, great video. You stopped him 4 times by stopping riding by sitting relaxed and deep in the saddle.
I saw you ask for the stop three times queing him by dropping your hand to his wither releasing all the pressure, Tim
I wish you guys would show the bits you use on your horse.. from when you 1st start breaking them.
An article about my entire bitting process is right on the home page of my website.
Plus, photos of all the bits is on my website too.
Hi Shannon, the bit is not as important as the way you use your hands.
Hi Shannon, The way you use your hands is more important than a certain type of bit. If you go to the home page of my website, you'll see a link which describes the entire bitting process.
Actually, the type of bit is really not important.
great video but I do have one question.. how do you tie the knot in the tail?
Hi Becky,
It's just a regular knot with a rubber band to hold it in place.
As I watched you I counted three stops. Cues that I saw posture deep in the saddle no leg and a pull and release with your reins. My horse doesn't always respond the first time I have to repeat pull and release.
I believe you relaxed in the seat and took you feet of of him. What is the bit are you using if you can disclose it? If it's what I think is it's a great bit.
Hi Emery,
It's a hand-made bit from the state of Washington.
I'll be carrying it on my website soon.
And yes, it's a great bit... lots of feel.
ltrocha is it a snaffle? am in the market for a new one, and plan to visit your site tonight to check yours out b/c I love the correction bit I got from you a few years back, has been on my big gray hoss ever since ... do work him and my cutter in snaffles for fine tuning . . . you are the Real Deal ~
sherry susan Oops, looking closer, not a snaffle, pardon me, am pooped from the clinic ~
Mr Trocha, how old is this horse and what bit are you using sir? Thanks for the help! Great video....
Hi Josh, at the time we shot this video, the horse was either 4 or 5 years old.
The bit is a Bill Freeman, low-port, original line. And Bill's original line of bits, have the best feel of any bit I've ever used. Bill makes two lines of bits, his original line and his Wrangler line. I prefer his original line.
ltrocha you are the man! I will look into his bits sir. Thank you Mr Trocha!!
You relaxed your body and reins, sat back touching the horses neck:)
I thought I saw 6 stops...including the ones during the initial supple exercises. Best I could tell was you sat deeper, maybe relaxed your legs.
Thanks for the free video!
Tina
Oops i think it was 5 times Larry ask the horse to stop, lol. Also looks like a correction bit, love using them, my horses also drops the head on a snaffle... I just prefer the correction bit.
Actually, no correction bit. Just a high port Bill Freeman bit.
So I got overzealous and typed my answer on the "comments" on your website. Haha oops. Anyways here it is again:
I saw 3 full stops. The first "stop" doesn't count because you're still asking for lateral flexion even though the horse isn't travelling forward. When you asked for the stop your body relaxed and you lowered your hands... You "quit riding him". :-)
The first thing I work on with a horse
That's good Tom because nothing is more important for a performance horse.
Got to have the left and right soft before you get the vertical. Got to have the feet moving.
Five stops. You stopped riding and relaxed everything. Well trained horse!
the horse stopped when you quit riding with your feet and seat. Freeman bit..from WA.
I love that you show in the bridle. Seems most are in a snaffle
Thanks Darlene, I show that horse in cutting horse competition and at those shows, the judge expects to see a curb bit with loose reins.
View this training video and pay attention to the number of times I STOP this horse.
Watch closely and see if you can detect HOW I asked this horse to stop. What cues did I use?
Type your answer below the video in the "Comments". Don't worry, I won't criticize if you get it wrong.
I'm just interested to see how many folks get it right. Thanks for participating. I'm looking forward to your answer.
Larry T
Hello. I believe you relaxed your body and set the reins back down in the position to were you would be ready to pick them up again to start another section. Thanks for the video.
[1:18] You were already relax in your seat, but you didn't seem to sit deep in the saddle. He was already paying attention to you and you didn't que him with your hands. I think maybe he's just a lazy turd.
Turn your toes in and release leg pressure
Turn your humility on or release your own video.
You stopped 4.5 times.. the half was a stop but not for long. Transfer the weight to your back pockets to stop the horse or sit deep in the saddle and release the pressure on his sides. The cues were very subtle
The horse I'm riding will kind of yo-yo. I do the bump/seesaw, and I let go once she goes to put her head down, but it immediately comes right back up.
Then you should IMMEDIATELY repeat... and keep repeating until she is convinced to come back up slowing... kind of like "asking" you if it's okay.
If she continues to have issues or begins to throw her head, you may want to have a chiropractor adjust her spine.
Looks like you stopped 4 times, and you quit riding/relaxed your seat/body to get the stop. Also I did notice you lowered you reins. Nice!
Dear Mr. Trochanter your beautiful horse stopped because you stopped riding: Your body is not telling your horse to move forward. I started my horse with your technique and he stops when I stop with no reins. Hope this is right:-)
4 times. the first thing you did was quit riding him. Then you bumped with the reins to remind him to stop
i shall 3 stops hands seat and legs
It looks to me like you release the spurs and relax your legs while you sit.
4 times, you sat deep in the saddle, stopped actively riding and your left hand settled on his withers.
Looks like you gave a cue with both leg against the horse to brings his hind legs under him so he would stop on his hind end and just stopped moving your own body.
you actually stopped him 3 times by not driving him forward, he thought about stopping once in the beginning but you continued to drive him forward. When you want the stop, you stopped riding.
I believe you dont stop that horse, he did it by his own , thats my opinion. thanks
I agree that he has to keep the spurs and legs on him to keep him going, but I notice the subtle motion of Larry's feet (taking the spur away) and a position change in his legs (taking the leg pressure away). I did not notice much rein action, but then I was watching his body most of the time.
Four stops. The first was a combination of a one rein stop and you quit riding. The other three stops were you just quit riding him.
Hi Larry, I think you stopped your horse 4 times, he did stop very shortly another time. Each time you stopped you did nothing! just stopped riding him,
Regards,
Gill (UK)
You are asking your horse to stop with your seat. When your seat stops moving and becomes heavy he will stop.
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I believe you stopped him 5 times. It looked as if you took your legs off of him to stop.
It looks like you stopped riding and relaxed your reins to ask for a stop.
Hi Diane, Pretty darn close.
You stopped riding. Relaxed your seat and legs. It appears you also dropped your reins slightly.
I believe you stopped 7 times. You used your feet by squeezing to go and releasing to stop. Several of you're stops were very short but there was a break in stride.
Horse is trained to read your seat. When you quit riding he shuts down.
You dropped your heels and stopped asking for forward movement.
You stopped the horse 4 times by taking your feet off him.
You quit riding him, and sit down in the saddle
If a horse hangs on the bit and is not supple, it is a problem with the hind legs, everything that happens up front is a direct result of the hind quarter, if he doesn't give he is not bad, or stupid he is physically unable, ask yourself why. when you have a horse that is uncomfortable in his body (sore, or a crooked rider for example) and then you force the head and bump and seesaw and force him to put his head where you want it without considering his physical needs then you are a poor trainer. If instead you rode him correctly from behind and placed his hind legs in the correct position and left his head alone, his head would fall to where you need it without all the big bits and jabbing in the jaw.
I believe you stopped him 5 times, relaxing your legs and by just stopping your energy.