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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2017
- A look at the Roland MT-80S - A 'Music Tutor' device that's still great fun, even for non musicians.
Used Roland MT devices on ebay: ebay.to/2zPukbg
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WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
If he keeps on singing like that, i doubt it if he gets lucky at all !!! :)
MinoTheShow yes it was a good criticism of modern popular music.
Monotone moan bliss
I took more as satire of people read singing. If it was criticizing anything, it would be vamping, which is hardly unique to modern music.
So Crates I wouldn't call Daft Punk popular music, especially since the lyrics in their tracks usually don't matter at all.
The fact that these exist and you've now covered it makes me deeply satisfied.
What a fantastic little set of devices!
Roland's MT and SD series are a good substitute for external Sound Canvas systems. Often they have MT-32 or SC-55 guts built in. Just recently was able to purchase a sequencer for $50 that had SC-88 built in. With the retro craze going on (thanks in part to reviewers bringing many of these items into spotlight) most popular systems such as MT-32's have either vanished or demand too much of a price premium.
One device that I've been looking for long time is Roland SoundBrush. Extremely rare, but very useful.
I'd have to agree, especially the fact that they exist.
I read that in my head with your voice.
can we get one that takes 5.25 floppies :-p
6 kbit/s MP3? Talk about hardcore. The original GSM *speech* codec used 13 kbit/s! At those kinds of data rates, I would really look out for more suitable codecs... like Opus or something.
Your rendition of "Get Lucky" was commendable.
In some parts of the world having to listen to that would be considered extraordinary rendition! 🤣
Sounding suitably computer-generated.
Please start a 2nd channel of just karaoke!
3 years ago and you only have 17 likes. This shows how stupid your idea is..
@@H.EL-Othemany You seem nice.
@@MakeSomething wow you're still alive.. Hi..!!
He should
@@H.EL-Othemany 4 weeks and you haven't got a single like, shows what a twat you are.
I implore you to release a complete rendition of lucky. Voice of an angel.
Mattytime I so hoped for him singing the higher parts as well
I think he would Make a good tv host!
If you liked that you'd probably like Brett Domino's version
Mattytime the voice of an angle grinder.
I don't know what it was but it was just something about the stock where you were singing in that slightly blanks to hear that made me laugh but yes a very beautiful rendition please do a full one. PS don't monetize if you do this you will get in trouble
The get lucky face had me dying
Xavier Ancarno Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't sound like you ended up getting very lucky at all there, friend, if you're dying and whatnot.
"I want you to sing 'Get Lucky' but really sell the fact that you will never get laid"
This is Get Lucky (Tech-moan vocal mix) and it almost killed me 😂
Relatable at 4 in the morning
Same but with hernia!!!!!
MIDI clearly sounds better on a floppy!
A VERY underrated comment
Darn-straight, maaan! You can *feeeeeel* the precision, yet with sooooo much depth...
Is that really true? I've never compared a floppy to a pen
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Hah! Made me laugh
Every time I see a piece of Roland equipment like this on UA-cam I’m blown away at the quality and engineering .
6:09 the most accurate 'get lucky' reproduction I've ever heard
That's how the original track sounds without Autotune
A minute is ample, believe me! ua-cam.com/video/c5WSsNrhwnM/v-deo.html
Eternal version just for you coub.com/view/106w6j
I never seen footage of a karaoke as passionate as this video's karaoke session. The fire in soul, the passions clashing, the love for music!
Man was living it.
I want this thing so badddd. As a kid I had an old desktop I kept on the corner of my loft bed and I would listen to MIDI versions of video game music all night. This was before my family had internet, so I would have to go to the library and download MIDIs. Ah the 90s...
Have you tried MuseScore? It's a free Windows / Linux MIDI player and score editor. Not as much fun as a dedicated gadget, but it does the job.
I used to do the same, almost forgot how much I enjoyed music from games on midi in those times early to mid 90's for me.
Midi? Oh come one young lad, when I was young we collected our music as mod files.
Mod files wow...brings me back to tale end of my Amiga 500s days... Spending hours downloading them with jrcomm
Karaoke song requests should totally be a new Patreon reward level for you.
Yeah lol
imagine him signing the oarpa
If Joy Division did Get Lucky.
Stephen Frank lmao 😂 wow that's a good joke to start this Friday off with.
oh Quality. lmao. x
HAHAHA YES!
Now whenever I hear the song, I am going to be hearing it in a Manc accent! "We're oop all night to get lookeh!"
'Dad' Muppet most cover 'Atmosphere' in the Xmas special Techmoan!
You have the voice of an angel. That was the most amazing rendition of “Get Lucky” since Oliver Age 24.
What a nice machine.
The "Get Lucky" part combined with the video transition was hilarious.
Just realized that the MIDI and HDMI logos both use the same font.
Now I'm waiting for the HDMIDI standard.
HD midi = a midi file played on deep sampled instruments in 96 kHz
HDMIDI would just be an Amiga style-module file.
high definition multimusical instrument digital interface
please do extended karaoke segments
oh hi i didn't see you there
oh hello there
Cyranek why the fuck are you everywhere?
I have a feeling that it will end-up somehow be misused for illegal ascension purposes
I didn't expect to see you here
Techmoan singing Daft Punk. My life is complete.
His singing was on par with my mother's
Man, I wish I knew about these MIDI boomboxes back in the late 90's, back when I was into collecting MIDI music on BBSes and then on the Internet. I would of had a blast playing said music without having to use a PC.
6:08 I'm picturing the neighbors, nice quiet god-fearing family of four in the flat next door, sitting down to dinner with the monotonic tunes of "We're up all night to get lucky" reverberating thru the walls. XD
I think MIDI is really underrated. People don't realize how good MIDI can sound with a nice soundfont.
So true - it's one of those things that won't go away - no matter how hard the music industry tries to replace it with less useful stuff.
As soon as computers became powerful enough for real-time processing of wave files, Midi got lost in the past. Wave blasters are left in the past. Modern soundcards (I mean newer than 1999 ;) cannot play midi directly, drivers do that instead, making wave from midi and playing it then.
This thing is actually a wave blaster with floppy attached and some amplifier with controls. I think it would be better if there was a stereo with two speakers. However, there if stereo line out, so it can be connected to external amplifier. Good way to upgrade cheap keyboard with better sounds as well.
Auberge79 The MIDI protocol is still commonly used to control virtual instruments
Midi still around and will still around for many decades. Midi is the oldest language still in use and still in Version 1. And regarding the sound, midi has no sound, is data. What the machine does is using standard midi files. Back in the 80s was agreed that each midi channel would play specific sounds. Chanel 10 was for drums only, 1 was for piano only. That way if you do a song in a Roland with Standard Midi File, you could play it in a Yamaha. There was a SMF bank. Now, it does not matter the quality of the sound card, the music need to be played with dynamics and a very organic arrangement.
Fruit loops is highly used.
I would seriously pay cash for a Techmoan full cover version of Get Lucky.
With dancing...
Suri Suri boring song
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But would you pay serious cash?
That's really neat. I think it's incredible all the obscure hardware you show. Love it!
This has to be my favorite of all of your videos that I have seen thus far. Hearing you MC on the Mic solidified it
This channel validates the existence of UA-cam! Pro presentation, an eminently likable and articulate host and every video is fascinating. These videos will likely be played thousands of years from now in some museum for ancient tech.
6:09 | One of the most beautiful voices I've heard. I love how you carry the rhythm and give it a bit of twist. What might have been a showy, sizzler nonsense of a song you have really brought under control and given a magical gravitas through skill, power and emotion. Simply amazing. -- simon cowell.
Realistic simon cowell review
You forgot to add: _You really made it your own!_
"Dad can we listen to Campton races?"
"Son you know all of those midi files are unorganized"
Camptown Races - 65163687965107
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great job
This is such a distillation of why I like this channel. Truly wonderfully weird device, answered every question I could have, answered a few more questions I'd never have thought of, and some truly funny bits thrown in.
You gave that song all the passion it deserves!
Oh Roland, MT for Multi Timbre on some devices, MT for Music Tutor on others? This is a great little box thanks for sharing Techmoan!
Zeno I was thinking it would be more based on the sound canvas because of the fact that it has General midi and Roland gs support
Zeno probably more something like an sc55 or 88, the mt32 didn't support general midi so most files would sound wrong.
I noticed that it has MIDI IN port, which probably means that if connected to a computer through an MPU-401 interface (or USB-to-MIDI converter for more modern connectivity) it can act as a GM sound module (for playing old PC games).
kosmosyche Or connect an actual keyboard to play it directly perhaps?
Bob Marley "I wanna love you" "No woman no cry" "we jamming"
Nice selection
We’re up all night to get FLOPPY.
The “Get Lucky” karaoke is the best so far!!! 🤣
We flop all night to get UPPY.
Always a pleasure to watch these obscure music devices
It's freezing, I'm tired but Techmoan uploads an obscure format video, and now all is better
I am always amazed at this channel, showing stuff I never knew or imagined existed... mind-blowing!!!!
You can make your own hiphop mixtapes with this thing. This is old school
Can you imagine the sampling
MIDI files being offered *in retail* on floppies. Wow, now I've seen everything.
Techmoan, you and your videos are fantastic. Thank you for all the stuff you've covered so far, and I'm looking forward to everything you will be covering in the future.
Techmoan singing "get lucky" is hilarious.dying 😂
You can just see the passion
I really enjoy learning about older media technology. This stuff seems so fun!
bro the electronics reviews are great alone but your comedy style is golden....love your videos, keep it up!!
Don’t! Don’t copy that floppy!
SAerror1 ITS HIS FLOPPY!! HE CAN DO WHAT EVER THE HELL HE WANTS TO WITH IT (except resell it) SINCE HE OWNS IT!
naapalm82 It's a JOKE! That's from back in the days of vintage computers that used 5.25 inch floppy disks, and they would tell people not to pirate games by copying the disks.
midis don't have a copyright really
I love the Thomas the Dank engine version. ua-cam.com/video/386zfdJt8JM/v-deo.html
I thought it was a reference to the music ...
Don’t! Don’t copy that floppy!?
WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
Don’t! Don’t copy that floppy!?
WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
Don’t! Don’t copy that floppy!?
WE’RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET LUCKY
Don’t! Don’t copy that floppy!?
You absolutely *need* to play that Skrillex MIDI through it
- What's a midi file?!
- I'LL SHOW YOU!
Your deadpan delivery of Get Lucky is just genius!
Great videos, though!
Very interesting device! I've watched dozens of Techmoan episodes now and this is the first to get a literal LOL out of me (during the Lucky bit), though I've always been entertained.
Also, beside soloing a track to learn it, the inverse is also very useful: muting a track while leaving the rest of the virtual band intact, while the musician plays their part.
I work as a machinist in a machine shop, and one of our older mills has one of those USB-to-floppy emulators for the purpose of loading programs.
Works well enough, but one of the oddities about it to keep in mind is that to make it work you have to format your however many gigabyte flash drive down to a 1.44 megabyte partition to make it read.
No way to sneakily get it to read larger volumes here!
maybe its an old version, the later ones let you have loads of 1.44 megabyte virtual floppies on one flash drive, you just pick which number you want and it loads
Aye, we wanted to do the same and replace 720k floppies on aging Giddings & Lewis controls. The company who support our machines and controls wanted silly money and I said they were taking the mickey. I think they wanted about £700 a control to do it :P
Unfortunately because I pooh-pooed their rip off prices, and because they could refuse to support us if we did it ourselves, they still have 720k floppies. in them. I have no idea where the maintenance dept find floppies to back the thing up (Programs are loaded over COM1).
Lesson learned: Sometimes it's better to keep quiet about the fact you know they are charging about 12 times what the kit cost for their 'magic' knowledge of how to make it work (which I could have probably figured out from reading the jumper settings) :P
I may have to do the same soon. We have a large prototrak knee mill that doesn't want to connect to the network anymore. Only other "input" is a 1.44 floppy. We have to use a circa 2006 mazak to put files onto the disk!
A thing to note: the floppy connector inside might be proprietary, so it might require figuring out the pinouts and making a converter cable.
ffmfg wouldn't be surprised. I went to replace a drive on an older prototrak (has one for the system, one for storage), and there was something odd with the connectors. I want to say they were either mirrored, or just moved to the opposite end of the backside on the drive. Eithet way a standard drive won't work.
Thumbs up for the Karaoke part of Get Lucky! LOL
wait...what? you never cease to amaze me with these wierd contraptions...keep 'em coming buddy👍
Your take on "We're Up All Night to Get Lucky" sounds like a Bauhaus cover.
I bet Clint Basinger (Lazy Game Reviews) would absolutely love this.
We definitely got lucky with this video!
Seriously, one of the best channels on the internet.
your videos have started catching my eye, interesting stuff you are finding, and you do a great job of presenting, vary clean and informative.
That Karaoke scene has made my day, haven't laughed that much before 0900 in ages! Keep 'em coming :-D
Her: I only date singers
Me: 06:09
Guaranteed to seal the deal!
Hahah xD
I've had a look at the comments and nobody's mentioned Brett Domino and your cover of his cover of Get Lucky. Love it, love The Brett Domino Trio, and of course your channel. And this nifty machine! Also I love that you feature Brett Domino on your channel, makes perfect sense.
videos like this are what keeps us coming back! only annoying thing is that a bunch of specialist listener's are now going to wipe out all traces of these from the buyer's market places ;-) great video
I suggest you release a DVD compilation of your greatest videos called, 'Twenty Golden Techmoan Hits' - I think we'd all snap up a copy! Great video as always.
Now that is very cool
Britec09 hey review more ransomware please
I purchased mine in the mid-90's, when they were new. I used it for years while playing live. I used Band-In-A-Box in those days to create the basics... drums, bass, organ, strings, piano, etc., and then I'd play either acoustic guitar or electric guitar along with those arrangements. I still have mine, not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point.
Some of the coolest things in life are the ones you didn’t know existed!
Fireship1 they were very expensive too In their time.
Why do I suddenly foresee The 8-bit guy adding this thing to his Christmas list if he doesn't have one already?
This is possibly one of the best channels available on UA-cam.
Hello, and thanks for your videos, Techmoan. Love to watch the old tech from my past and older :)
This is another one of my favorite videos Mat, great work. ;)
8-Bit Guy: Use compact cassettes in your camcorder!
Techmoan: Use floppies in your boombox!
I am a confused man.
Wow i never knew these existed. Well floppies are probably analog, so floppy pc's are ALSO analog..
or is it digital? I know cassette tapes are so they used tape drives in the old days. I'd bet it can't hold longer than 50 seconds of audio. They don't make floppy recorders that are portable and it would just be silly.
Very cool! When I first saw the thumbnail I thought "How did they get Mp3's to play from a floppy disc?" And with Midi you now have background music for your videos that wont get a copyright strike! :)
wildbilltexas yeah, if you compressed the hell out of it, you might manage to get ONE mp3 on a 1.44mb floppy disk, and it would probably sound horrible.
wildbilltexas That what I thought of first to.
ct92404 Also the song might keep stopping and starting due to speed of a floppy disk.
I think I remember putting an MP3 on a floppy. It sounded ten times better than what I was used to hearing from the PC speaker. Not that that means much though.
Hagledesperado Really?! Was it an actual full length song? I think the smallest mp3 files I ever used were around 2 megabytes, which of course can't fit on any floppy disk. I think I did used to put them on 100mb zip disks sometimes, and also cd-r's, before flash drives were around.
I think many people forget that but: I have bought one of these a day before this video came out and I still enjoy the look of it on my shelf at every sunny morning, let me tell you.
You’re rendition of “get lucky” finally convinced me to subscribe
Techmoan still comes up with the most obscure devices! He is also definitely looking more dapper in his most recent videos.
I think he's always been dapper. I just think now that he's getting bigger, he wants to turn it up to 11 for professionalism's sake.
This is general midi compatible and has midi in, I suppose it could be used as a midi device for DOS games. Now I wanna hear DOOM through this thing!
I was gonna say the same thing
Not sure it can on this model. I have an MT-200 that has a Midi IN and also an AUX Midi IN. If I use the standard Midi IN, it will only produce piano sounds from channel 1. To use it like an actual sound module for DOS games and such, I have to use the Aux Midi IN. These smaller units with just the single Midi in might indicate they can only be used with an external piano and that would make sense given the teaching nature these are designed for. Also without a Midi out, there isn't an easy way to set Sysex commands to them and know what is going on with it.
Probably uses the same FM synth chip as MT-32. There are recordings of those. There are MT-32 emulators too.
Jamie The MT-32 doesn't use FM synthesis. You're thinking of Yamaha.
Right you are, apparently MT-32 uses sample-based Linear Arithmetic synth. Today I Learned, thanks!
But can it play canyon.mid?
QVear hahaha the lie eye.
ua-cam.com/video/OIW4F285QjA/v-deo.html
It's just the Roland Sound Canvas sounds used since the SC55. It can work just like using the one from Microsoft's ugly SC Version. ua-cam.com/video/-TSC4WKaFiQ/v-deo.html This is from the Virtual Sound Canvas I've used in 2015. Enjoy!
Why not?
Yes
the way you present your videos is quite funny dude :D thanks for that vibes
Up all night to get lucky! haha! Great busking or solo musician device!
I HAVE MY FINAL EXAM TOMORROW AND IM WATCHING THIS! THANKS TECHMOAN!
good luck boss. what subject?
Good Luck!
Good luck man!!
I had one of these for sale in my shop years ago. It was never sold, stolen by Christmas staff. I'm guessing the new owner didn't figure out how to use it either. Thanks for another awesome video mate!
I´ve been a regular viewer of your videos for a while now... the Get Lucky part of the video made me subscriber
Your channel is the reason Techmoan, I am never bored on UA-cam.
Thanks.
I agree.
Your the best and got me into cassetes. i fixed my dads old tape player and i got the chance to play old tapes.Thank you
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Where was this when I was learning drums...this would have been awesome. I had a feeling it was for MIDI files since those are tiny hence being able to use a floppy. Of course, I just practiced along with mix tapes back then but this would've given me a general idea and I could've picked it up quicker. So glad I'm subbed to this channel because you've shown me things I didn't even know existed and may actually try to get myself because they're just rad. Keep on keepin' on dude!
You are the king of fantastically obsolete technology!!!!! I await with great eagerness what mad thing you'll find next. Also you've got a great voice!
6:08 when your girl is a hypnotist and she wants some
The best tech channel on YT
I clicked on this video having no idea what this thing was. Then when you mentioned what it was for, I immediately remembered that my piano teacher used one of these when I briefly took piano lessons in 2000 when I was 7 years old. I had completely forgotten what the machine looked like, but seeing it now I'm sure it was this exact model or very close to it. Memory is a funny thing.
such passionate and uplifting singing. more please!
As a karaoke host, please come to my show.
wow for one speaker that thing sounds really good!
No idea about music, but you definitely do have a talent in intertaining! That vocal part was a riot!
Just when I thought I had seen it all you come up with this. I am addicted so cut it out!
I wanna hear some Transport Tycoon midi jazz on this bad boy. How interesting, and only marketable in the 90s.
Finally, a boombox that will play my midi versions of Mega Man BGM....& Banjo Kazooie, & Sonic for Genesis, & Castlevania...
6:08 had me dead!
This channel really is the best of both worlds...I've certainly learned alot and have been sufficiently entertained! Glad to have stumbled upon these vids. Fantastic job!
Back in the day my co-workers and I would record music on FDs and play them back through our computers. We thought we were so smart having such hi-tech music entertainment at work. lol
Another great video sir. Thank you.
Fantastic! You should bring an album out "Deadpan hits by Mat" Or "Moany M" 😂
Paul Briers moany m lol
A couple of track suggestions for the 'Deadpan Hits' by 'Moany M' album:
'Da Da Dash put in' and "Burnt resistors of Magnetron' :)
floppy ...floppy ..cool!
Loved the timing in the intro! :-)
i noticed it too, clever :]
I can't believe Roland actually manufactured a product this niche. Well, they did reiterate on the concept with the later models that had USB support and so on like you mentioned in the video, but a portable device that uses floppy disks to playback MIDI music just... strikes this certain nostalgic nerve of mine super hard, I guess. As a computer and MIDI music... "enthusiast", I kind of want one just for the novelty and bizarreness of it all but I don't know if my pockets are deep enough to cover whatever the cost would be to buy a working device and have it shipped safely to Northern Europe.
Many thanks for doing a thorough video demonstration this piece of electronic equipment in any case!
6:08 - I can tell you're having truckloads of fun there.
The puppets! Where are the bloody puppets! :0)
The outro should have been them doing the Daft Punk song. :-D
Maybe the puppets didn't care for his karaoke. There's no accounting for taste.
10 hours ｍｅｍｅ version of that Get Lucky plz.
ua-cam.com/video/ZqLQab8jd10/v-deo.html
I remember a friend of mine had a mechanical upright piano that would play itself (with the keys even being pressed) that also used a floppy disk drive. It would still make sense today, except for the lack of floppy drives
Very interesting. I believe fancier digital pianos of the 1990s used midi discs with similar features to help people learn to play. I've never seen a portable model, though.