Pray for me brothers and sisters, im a protestant convert to the Orthodox church and am trying vigorously to fight my passion of anger. I want to walk the way Jesus did in Love for one another. John 13:35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
Look, I'm a reformed Christian. And I can't help but notice... How wise the Orthodox church is, Constantly. I'm subscribed to a few Orthodox channels and with each video, I'm telling you.... Just abounds with wisdom. It's always deep. Nurturing. And true. Gotta love it.
Come and join us in the church services. Fr. JOSIAH did, and he was Reform.. Ii didn't see anything online when i started going to Orthodox services, .but i well remember my deep respect for what i heard. I would hear the epistle or the gospel and i knew all of the readings, but i would marvel at what the priest would say that far surpassed anything i had heard before. The Orthodox Church just speaks in a different and more full way.. and you really hear it within the ancient and beautiful services.. ☦💝📿💝☦
Pray for me father, my life is a mess in more than one way, my brother passed away from a drug overdose a year ago, I’m facing a dui charge and I’ve struggled with drug usage throughout my 20’s as well, thankfully it’s never gotten completely out of control but it’s still a problem. I hope once I get a vehicle again and can drive I can attend an Orthodox Church for the first time and find some life and hope again
Do you mind if I ask your first name so I can pray for you? God bless you, and remember the Church is a hospital for souls. You are welcome here my friend.
Just as we are taught in self-defense training, focus on the largest threat FIRST. Makes perfect sense, it's crazy that I never thought of this in terms such as this before. What a big dummy I am. Thank you St. Nicodemas, and thank you Fr. Trenham and Patristic Nectar team for your hard work.
The notion of fighting vices by their corresponding virtues made me curious whether there's a list of the vices. On OrthodoxWiki, I found these "eight principle vices": 1. Gluttony. 2. Fornication (lust). 3. Avarice (greed, covetousness). 4. Anger. 5. Sadness. 6. Despondency (sloth, acedia). 7. Vainglory (boastfulness, cenodoxia). 8. Pride. I never thought of sadness as a vice. This might be a key one for me to look into. Thank you father.
@@donkeykong6602 I guess you would have to look up what Orthodox Saints have said about the particular vice(s) that you are concerned with, but the virtues that I'm aware of are: 1. Temperance, Sobriety 2. Chastity, Agape 3. Charity 4. Patience, Peace 5. Joy 6. Discipline, Dedication, Obedience 7. Humility, Repentance 8. Humility, Repentance, Obedience Also, both asceticism and a resistance to passions seem to be relevant for all eight of them. I'm not sure if there are different types of humility for vices 7 and 8. I'm only just discovering these thanks to this video, so I can't say much more about it.
*I've only confessed three times in my life. I believe there's an unspoken common view in the Orthodox Church that kind of gives the important reason that faith matters are not to be taken lightly, therefore they aren't that much for the young-ish people. And that is perfectly fine. I can relate to that view perfectly well*
Just to confirm Fr. Do we then only present this one passion to our priest for confession or all of them with the main focus on the one affecting us the most. Thanking you in anticipation.
It is still necessary to list all the faults you have found in yourself but you can group them topically which can help the priest formulate his advice. The recognition of which is our besetting passion is more use for use in our self-awareness in tacking our faults with the help of our spiritual father. One piece of advice I had monastic priest in the past which has helped me is to sometimes confess by what good I have not done rather than the bad I have it puts a different focus on the process.
*So there exist three types of Religions, in my opinion, corresponding to three particular views. A. The view that Holy matters pertain to the older and wiser. B. The view that the youth should be actively engaged. And, C. The view that youth and young people bear absolutely no relevance to the rest of us, except for turning them into "Holy" Water. Furthermore, you can see I'm taking things lightly here, obviously, because I'm trying to be humorous...*
Is it wrong to confess one's sins directly to God in private, and not to a human confessor? I try to adhere to scripture in all respects. Is there firm mention of confessing to a confessor in the Bible?
It is not wrong, but we need a Priest as well. I forget where the verse is, maybe in James, about confessing our sins to one another (may be other places as well). I believe the Church used to do confession in the open, in front of the parishioners, but eventually did them in private between Priest and confessor. I could be wrong about that part though.
Only through a human confessor (priest or bishop) can we have our sins forgiven by God. Thats the meaning and importance of one of the Holy Mysteries in the Church, Holy Confession. Jesus gave this power to forgive sins to the Apostles (see John 20;23) and, through them, to all the bishops and priests that they have ordained. Also, in the Acts of the Apostles 19;18 it says that many people who had believed in Christ and became christians „came to confess and to tell their doings”. Confessing our sins in private prayer to God is the first step in admitting the sinfull nature we have. The next step is to crush our pride and ego and to go to our spiritual father and confess the sins, so we can get forgiveness from God and fight against our pride.
Pray for me brothers and sisters, im a protestant convert to the Orthodox church and am trying vigorously to fight my passion of anger. I want to walk the way Jesus did in Love for one another. John 13:35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
Look, I'm a reformed Christian. And I can't help but notice... How wise the Orthodox church is, Constantly. I'm subscribed to a few Orthodox channels and with each video, I'm telling you.... Just abounds with wisdom. It's always deep. Nurturing. And true. Gotta love it.
God's calling you home my friend
Come and join us in the church services. Fr. JOSIAH did, and he was Reform..
Ii didn't see anything online when i started going to Orthodox services, .but i well remember my deep respect for what i heard. I would hear the epistle or the gospel and i knew all of the readings, but i would marvel at what the priest would say that far surpassed anything i had heard before.
The Orthodox Church just speaks in a different and more full way.. and you really hear it within the ancient and beautiful services..
☦💝📿💝☦
Pray for me father, my life is a mess in more than one way, my brother passed away from a drug overdose a year ago, I’m facing a dui charge and I’ve struggled with drug usage throughout my 20’s as well, thankfully it’s never gotten completely out of control but it’s still a problem. I hope once I get a vehicle again and can drive I can attend an Orthodox Church for the first time and find some life and hope again
Do you mind if I ask your first name so I can pray for you? God bless you, and remember the Church is a hospital for souls. You are welcome here my friend.
Just as we are taught in self-defense training, focus on the largest threat FIRST. Makes perfect sense, it's crazy that I never thought of this in terms such as this before. What a big dummy I am. Thank you St. Nicodemas, and thank you Fr. Trenham and Patristic Nectar team for your hard work.
Thank you Father, needed to hear this.
Same
Same
Same
The notion of fighting vices by their corresponding virtues made me curious whether there's a list of the vices. On OrthodoxWiki, I found these "eight principle vices":
1. Gluttony.
2. Fornication (lust).
3. Avarice (greed, covetousness).
4. Anger.
5. Sadness.
6. Despondency (sloth, acedia).
7. Vainglory (boastfulness, cenodoxia).
8. Pride.
I never thought of sadness as a vice. This might be a key one for me to look into.
Thank you father.
Thank you!
Where could I find their corresponding virtues?
@@donkeykong6602 I guess you would have to look up what Orthodox Saints have said about the particular vice(s) that you are concerned with, but the virtues that I'm aware of are:
1. Temperance, Sobriety
2. Chastity, Agape
3. Charity
4. Patience, Peace
5. Joy
6. Discipline, Dedication, Obedience
7. Humility, Repentance
8. Humility, Repentance, Obedience
Also, both asceticism and a resistance to passions seem to be relevant for all eight of them.
I'm not sure if there are different types of humility for vices 7 and 8. I'm only just discovering these thanks to this video, so I can't say much more about it.
@@donkeykong6602 Read Evagrios or Saint John Cassian
Wow! This is fantastic! Thank you SO very much, Father. Thanks and praise be to God for your teachings.
Bless Father.... 🙏xxx
*I've only confessed three times in my life. I believe there's an unspoken common view in the Orthodox Church that kind of gives the important reason that faith matters are not to be taken lightly, therefore they aren't that much for the young-ish people. And that is perfectly fine. I can relate to that view perfectly well*
Thank you Father, this helps a lot 🙏☦️
Thanks, Fr. Trenham! Have been reading this text and will look for that passage.
Thank you, Father.
🙏🏼
Thank you Father, I am struggling with this now
Appreciate your ministry Father
Fr. Bless, How then does one discern the best virtue that corresponds to a particular passion?
Thank you for the great insight!🙏🏻
Wondering this as well
What's the virtue that defeats the love for power and vainglory? How do I cultivate that virtue?
Humility. As for how to cultivate it, idk, I am not humble
Humility, which is also the chief of the virtue so helps with the cultivation of all the other virtues.
Just to confirm Fr. Do we then only present this one passion to our priest for confession or all of them with the main focus on the one affecting us the most.
Thanking you in anticipation.
It is still necessary to list all the faults you have found in yourself but you can group them topically which can help the priest formulate his advice. The recognition of which is our besetting passion is more use for use in our self-awareness in tacking our faults with the help of our spiritual father.
One piece of advice I had monastic priest in the past which has helped me is to sometimes confess by what good I have not done rather than the bad I have it puts a different focus on the process.
*So there exist three types of Religions, in my opinion, corresponding to three particular views. A. The view that Holy matters pertain to the older and wiser. B. The view that the youth should be actively engaged. And, C. The view that youth and young people bear absolutely no relevance to the rest of us, except for turning them into "Holy" Water. Furthermore, you can see I'm taking things lightly here, obviously, because I'm trying to be humorous...*
Is it wrong to confess one's sins directly to God in private, and not to a human confessor? I try to adhere to scripture in all respects. Is there firm mention of confessing to a confessor in the Bible?
It is not wrong, but we need a Priest as well. I forget where the verse is, maybe in James, about confessing our sins to one another (may be other places as well). I believe the Church used to do confession in the open, in front of the parishioners, but eventually did them in private between Priest and confessor. I could be wrong about that part though.
Only through a human confessor (priest or bishop) can we have our sins forgiven by God. Thats the meaning and importance of one of the Holy Mysteries in the Church, Holy Confession. Jesus gave this power to forgive sins to the Apostles (see John 20;23) and, through them, to all the bishops and priests that they have ordained. Also, in the Acts of the Apostles 19;18 it says that many people who had believed in Christ and became christians „came to confess and to tell their doings”. Confessing our sins in private prayer to God is the first step in admitting the sinfull nature we have. The next step is to crush our pride and ego and to go to our spiritual father and confess the sins, so we can get forgiveness from God and fight against our pride.
You can't listen just to the Bible. The Church created the Bible
Many thanks Father Josiah, I needed to hear this! 🙏