Oroboros is neat but it's undeniably a crutch. It's basically there to ensure you will win the game eventually no matter how many times you throw yourself at it.
Learning that you can essentially make it infinitely powerful if you know the right exploits told me that this game's got intentionally broken mechanics meant to reward creative players... or wiki readers
@@drewbabeI set up an infinite money farm in game 2 that also doubled as scaling for Ouroboros and that was the most powerful I have ever felt playing a video game. I have never managed to reach that high again.
@@kyle2 as far as I know, Kingdom Hearts has a character called Xehanort who corrupts people which fans refer to as "getting norted". Aqua is one of the good characters who got corrupted or something. The phrase "Aqua got norted" just sounds really funny out of context. It was mainly popularized by the ProZD skit, "casual vs diehard Kingdom Hearts fans watching trailers" I don't even play Kingdom Hearts btw so this might be inaccurate, this was just information that I casually absorbed over time from listening to my friends who are Kingdom Hearts fans while in Discord VC.
You made the same mistake I did and picked the magic deck. Act 2 was so poorly balanced in that regard, a very frustrating section. The deck building bit seemed cool but you just can't farm cards until the act is basically over.
The main issue with the magic deck is that it's absolutely terrible at giving you the notion that your MOX cards are the "squirrels" of the deck, and that you need to treat them as such when multi-decking. Here, Joe-chan is basically getting stuck with unplayable hands because he doesn't have any free cards and never understood that MOX cards were sacrificeable (as seen when he fails to see he can spawn Urayuli in his first few matches). Edit... hum, looks like I was wrong.
@@cyjanek7818 not going to happen. all extra dev time basically went into Kacyee's mod and now Daniel is probably working on his next game. he's not exactly the type to update a game forever, honestly getting an official rogue-like mode was surprising.
@@marciamakesmusic yeah the rougelike mode is cool aswell, i forgot about that. Its seriously impressive that the devs knew to end the game exactly when they ran out of good ideas.
@@bengombl9743While I understand your opinion, I respectfully disagree. They're not perfect by any means, but I enjoyed the later acts for a number of reasons. I suppose it all comes down to what you want and/or appreciate in a game.
@@0ranix Fair enough. I feel like I should say something else, but I don't think there's much more left to say. I guess... I hope you all have a good day, and good luck in your future endeavors.
A lot of both chat and Joseph got the wrong idea about the Act 2 mage problem. Yes, the magic/wizard deck is the worst of the bunch. Chat is right about that and so was Joe. But he took the starter mage pack. the only cards for the beast and bones stuff early was random. Joe's impression that the mage deck was bad was partially fueled by the fact that at nearly no point early on there was he just 100% committing to it. Of course the archetype is and when you're half assing it, they all are! Not sure what happens later, im not at the end of this one yet, so hope chat and joe realized this eventually
That's still on the game, really. It spends so long teaching how to play one deck type and then throws the player into the deep end\. It doesn't let you look at the cards before choosing a starting deck. There's no "hey here's a difficulty rating for each deck type" or any form of warning that the decks use completely different systems. Which is the game's fault. I see no reason it couldn't let players browse potential starter decks before making a choice.
Actually, the Mox Starter Deck is egregiously bad compared to the other starter decks. Running all 3 colors is a dumb idea and the devs should've simply introduced the player to 1-2 colors with the starter deck to create a more balanced deck. It doesn't help that you HAVE to beat a boss to obtain more Mox cards (since you can't buy Mox packs until then). At least Tech can be ran with bone/blood cards pretty reliably.
technically the only way to kill kingfisher is have a card with mighty leap (air shield) and sharp quills; every other waterborne can also be killed with only quills
4:47:55 pretty much summarizes Joseph Anderson streams. Don't attempt to play or engage with the game normally, just brute force or do some random shit for 30 minutes and complain when the game doesn't offer anything exciting in return.
I don't really like how so many of my fellow weebs can be annoyingly evangelical about their interests. Some people are just never going to like it and that's ok. That said, I've watched the Persona 5 and Danganronpa vods, and now I'm watching the 13 Sentinels vods and I'm finding it really hilarious watching Joe's brain melt trying to process that completely balmy story. If that's the objective and Joe's in on the joke and is ok with it, then I can see the appeal. If that's the case, whoever wins the marble race needs to pick a show with ALL the anime BS; full of anime girl noises, boys meeting girls by bumping into them and landing on their baps, redundant exposition, contrived plotlines that only exist because characters don't communicate, unnecessary I Can't Believe It's Not Hentai™ fanservice, 500 year old lolis...all of it. Go for maximum cringe.
As much as I normally love Joe, this was really frustrating to watch at times. He is just terrible at these sorts of games I guess, but it also feels like he isn't willing to even read the cards half of the time or put any thought into his deck build and then gets frustrated and calls it boring when his awful deck doesn't work. Thankfully Oro was there to carry but... still very annoying to watch him miss super obvious stuff because he just shuts off his brain and gets flustered over nothing.
@@SunbleachedAngel Bro is literally always very tired, that's what chronic insomnia will do to a mf trust me I know. After a coffee he perks up and starts readily engaging with chat but he still refuses to engage with the game after the first act.
i wasn't there for the stream but it seems like he set the cost to 100,000 coins in return for "nothing". When obviously everyone was expecting it to be much less for a spot on the wheel.
Getting your name on the wheel cost 100k "monocoins" and only 1 person (technically 3 since the refund broke and he changed the rules) would have gotten anything for it.
"We are spinning... for a marble."
"How are you here and you don't know about the marbles?" * 6:23
Good wordplay there in the title Joe, better writer than Alan Wake for sure
You know he was laughing as he was making the title
Oroboros is neat but it's undeniably a crutch. It's basically there to ensure you will win the game eventually no matter how many times you throw yourself at it.
Learning that you can essentially make it infinitely powerful if you know the right exploits told me that this game's got intentionally broken mechanics meant to reward creative players... or wiki readers
@@drewbabeI set up an infinite money farm in game 2 that also doubled as scaling for Ouroboros and that was the most powerful I have ever felt playing a video game. I have never managed to reach that high again.
I was very happy to never encounter the card until Act 3 or the game would have been boring.
Kinda the reason why I think the "Kaycee's mod" update was exactly what the game needed, even though it's only for an alternate postgame Act 1.
I just used stinkbug.
5:34:50 HOUSE OF LEAVES MENTIONED
I'm glad I'm not the only one with the brain rot to laugh uncontrollably at "aqua got Norted"
I know it's cringe of me to ask but can you explain the joke? I have no idea who aqua is, or what norted is.
@@kyle2 as far as I know, Kingdom Hearts has a character called Xehanort who corrupts people which fans refer to as "getting norted". Aqua is one of the good characters who got corrupted or something. The phrase "Aqua got norted" just sounds really funny out of context. It was mainly popularized by the ProZD skit, "casual vs diehard Kingdom Hearts fans watching trailers"
I don't even play Kingdom Hearts btw so this might be inaccurate, this was just information that I casually absorbed over time from listening to my friends who are Kingdom Hearts fans while in Discord VC.
@@marcosperezomg wow, thank you for taking a stab at it.
I also chose the wizard cause it sounded cool and it was a horrible misplay on an otherwise great game.
"Total Misplay"
the lucky carder kinda looks like bruce campbell. need to see him with a boomstick to be sure though
You made the same mistake I did and picked the magic deck. Act 2 was so poorly balanced in that regard, a very frustrating section. The deck building bit seemed cool but you just can't farm cards until the act is basically over.
The main issue with the magic deck is that it's absolutely terrible at giving you the notion that your MOX cards are the "squirrels" of the deck, and that you need to treat them as such when multi-decking.
Here, Joe-chan is basically getting stuck with unplayable hands because he doesn't have any free cards and never understood that MOX cards were sacrificeable (as seen when he fails to see he can spawn Urayuli in his first few matches). Edit... hum, looks like I was wrong.
@@RougeEric mox cards specifically state that they can't be sacrificed in capital letters
@@ascii_9727 oh, weird. I didn't remember that (it's been a while tbh)
Strange because from what I understand game is out for a long time already so they could fix the balance if they wanted to
@@cyjanek7818 not going to happen.
all extra dev time basically went into Kacyee's mod and now Daniel is probably working on his next game.
he's not exactly the type to update a game forever, honestly getting an official rogue-like mode was surprising.
1:08:45 start of game
This video is 3h 11min. The game ends when you beat leshy. There is no content after that.
Best game of 2021.
Goofy take. Whole game is good.
@@marciamakesmusic yeah the rougelike mode is cool aswell, i forgot about that.
Its seriously impressive that the devs knew to end the game exactly when they ran out of good ideas.
@@bengombl9743While I understand your opinion, I respectfully disagree. They're not perfect by any means, but I enjoyed the later acts for a number of reasons. I suppose it all comes down to what you want and/or appreciate in a game.
@@eliasfitzgerald1786when I buy a game, I don't want to be suddenly playing a different, awful game
@@0ranix Fair enough. I feel like I should say something else, but I don't think there's much more left to say. I guess... I hope you all have a good day, and good luck in your future endeavors.
A lot of both chat and Joseph got the wrong idea about the Act 2 mage problem. Yes, the magic/wizard deck is the worst of the bunch. Chat is right about that and so was Joe. But he took the starter mage pack. the only cards for the beast and bones stuff early was random.
Joe's impression that the mage deck was bad was partially fueled by the fact that at nearly no point early on there was he just 100% committing to it. Of course the archetype is and when you're half assing it, they all are! Not sure what happens later, im not at the end of this one yet, so hope chat and joe realized this eventually
That's still on the game, really. It spends so long teaching how to play one deck type and then throws the player into the deep end\. It doesn't let you look at the cards before choosing a starting deck. There's no "hey here's a difficulty rating for each deck type" or any form of warning that the decks use completely different systems. Which is the game's fault. I see no reason it couldn't let players browse potential starter decks before making a choice.
Actually, the Mox Starter Deck is egregiously bad compared to the other starter decks. Running all 3 colors is a dumb idea and the devs should've simply introduced the player to 1-2 colors with the starter deck to create a more balanced deck.
It doesn't help that you HAVE to beat a boss to obtain more Mox cards (since you can't buy Mox packs until then). At least Tech can be ran with bone/blood cards pretty reliably.
technically the only way to kill kingfisher is have a card with mighty leap (air shield) and sharp quills; every other waterborne can also be killed with only quills
4:47:55 pretty much summarizes Joseph Anderson streams. Don't attempt to play or engage with the game normally, just brute force or do some random shit for 30 minutes and complain when the game doesn't offer anything exciting in return.
I don't really like how so many of my fellow weebs can be annoyingly evangelical about their interests. Some people are just never going to like it and that's ok.
That said, I've watched the Persona 5 and Danganronpa vods, and now I'm watching the 13 Sentinels vods and I'm finding it really hilarious watching Joe's brain melt trying to process that completely balmy story.
If that's the objective and Joe's in on the joke and is ok with it, then I can see the appeal. If that's the case, whoever wins the marble race needs to pick a show with ALL the anime BS; full of anime girl noises, boys meeting girls by bumping into them and landing on their baps, redundant exposition, contrived plotlines that only exist because characters don't communicate, unnecessary I Can't Believe It's Not Hentai™ fanservice, 500 year old lolis...all of it. Go for maximum cringe.
41:16 Yep
Great Wheel!
Top tier game
man i lost all my monocoins this stream 😔
Why does Joe always put Eric in poll ? Is ont a ZTD meme or something else ?
holy shit the wheel of weeb arc was so funny
As much as I normally love Joe, this was really frustrating to watch at times. He is just terrible at these sorts of games I guess, but it also feels like he isn't willing to even read the cards half of the time or put any thought into his deck build and then gets frustrated and calls it boring when his awful deck doesn't work.
Thankfully Oro was there to carry but... still very annoying to watch him miss super obvious stuff because he just shuts off his brain and gets flustered over nothing.
he said he was very tired
@@SunbleachedAngel Bro is literally always very tired, that's what chronic insomnia will do to a mf trust me I know.
After a coffee he perks up and starts readily engaging with chat but he still refuses to engage with the game after the first act.
@@emoemo247 that's what having 4 children will do to a mf
@@SunbleachedAngel 5 if you include the Witcher 3 video.
@@emoemo247 Brother hes streaming, playing the game isn't the point lol
What did he bait people with around 15:00??
i wasn't there for the stream but it seems like he set the cost to 100,000 coins in return for "nothing". When obviously everyone was expecting it to be much less for a spot on the wheel.
Getting your name on the wheel cost 100k "monocoins" and only 1 person (technically 3 since the refund broke and he changed the rules) would have gotten anything for it.
I can't believe the game doesn't let you see the cards in the starter deck before you pick it. That's honestly ridiculous.
There's *no way* he can mess up this run!!! 😅3:01:36
1:28:16
what the fuck happens in this game?????? what
thanks Twitch
Inscryption, it's a game about ponies.