Just picked up a GTB with Omniums and I’m excited to make it my dream Tarck bike. Big Mash SF inspiration since they’re local to me and have cool new bits that’ll fit the build.
Dudes, I have a legendary part apparently? Last year, I bought a frameset from a cousin for $50 used and couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was... Until now that is. My Leader frame, pre-crap Seatpost clamp gen, is pretty spotless. I think the previous owner before my cousin picked it up painted over with a matte black finish (pretty well I might add) to go with this odd carbon fork. Anyway, I feel freakin' cool as hell right now, ngl.
thanks to this video, I learned the bike frame I recently bought for a steal is an EAI Bareknuckle! I was shocked, I refurbished and repainted it and it rides beautifully!
Stumbled upon this episode again. We really don’t know if omniums have been discontinued... because my local bike spot just restocked 50 units of these in black and 25-30 for the silver ones. Quite a lot in my opinion. ✌🏻
Thank you Zach for your video's. I have a mid 70's Raleigh Super Course i bought at a thrift shop for $12. Its complete and in pretty good shape overall. I've thought about turning it into a single speed. I'm to old and beat up to do a fixie anymore.
I've got the 2008 Cannondale Capo. It fell into their "urban" line up. It retains a fairly steep seat angle and tall bottom bracket but a traditional road bike head tube angle. American made, clean and simple uncluttered paint scheme(unlike many Cannondales of the era). Such a cool fun bike.
I still have my first bike, a early 80s conversion Centurion sitting on a pair of pink b43s. The front needs truing bad but im lazy to bring it in to a bike shop at the moment. but those wheels look great today and still get a lot of compliments and i've put mine thru hell and they're still serving me well.
Yes they are, a matter of fact I have one and I gotta love it. 4130 tripple butted Chromoly Steel is reasonably light and durable with decent stiffness
Oh I have a rare pair of 650c velocity b43s in purple and they are amazing. sucks that I don't ride a 47cm or lower frame also FSA vigorelli is something I wish they still made and Unknown bikes type 2
I disagree with Toshi straps being the pinnacle of toe straps. I would consider Kashimax Five Gold toe straps to be the best I have ever used. And they look better. I also disagree with “SRAM Omniums look pretty dang cool” They very ugly cranks Paul Royal Flush track cranks are legendary imo and discontinued as well as kashimax top tube protector
For some reason all the fixed bikes I've owned have been classic American frames. Wasn't looking for them but they just ended up coming to me for really cheap
I still don't get this dudes hate for the Omnium esp the bottom bracket. I put nearly 4600 miles into mine on a state undefeated mk2 and didn't once have creaking issues but I never tried another frame so those issues frame clearance quirks are probably valid with other frames. I miss that build, whoever was in charge of putting ritchey components and an Omnium on that frame for under 1500 was a mad genius, scholar and gentleperson. That ride was the stiffest, snappiest crank and I was extremely happy. I wasn't hitting crits but I would push hard at times. Gonna miss these 😢
Omnium used the gxp type bb though, wear out very quickly on the non drive side bearing. I think miche make a nice looking track cranks et, called the aero or something like that
Do you guys know where i can buy fixie good parts from US that can shipped to Malaysia. Because here in Malaysia its so hard to find a good part for fixie.
Hey Zach how about explaining the difference between bottom brackets? Like this kind of bottom bracket one would use for omniums, I don't get how they are installed 😅
I've never ridden either, but Cannondale has a reputation for having an awesome ride quality . While the Ayrton Silverstone looks like a nice frameset, looking like a Cannondale Track and riding like a Cannondale Track are completely different things. Solid choice if you just want something that's inspired by the legendary frameset.
@@ZachGallardo thanks. The frame is decently spec'd for the price with 6061 triple butted aluminium the kendo orbit is only 6061 double butted but it's more expensive in my country atleast
2. GT frameset is an all time classic that I think all of us has owned at some point or another starting in the late 90’s with the track bike boom. Great messenger frame. 1. The Cannondale is just a masterpiece!! The beauty of steel frame with the attributes and handling of aluminum. Another frame us old schoolers have been building up for decades now. Every line in the geometry is pure perfection! It is the holy grail of American track frames!!!!!! So yeah super good call putting them at their respective places. I kinda thought these two would make the list if you put framesets on and not just components!!!!
BCD, or bolt circle diameter refers to cranks and chainrings. So if you want to go from 130 to 144, you would need a new crank and chainring. Of course, the new crankset must be compatible with the bottom bracket (and the bottom bracket must be compatible with the frame), but otherwise it should be straightforward. Maybe get a second opinion from another shop.
i got a grey cinelli mash with omnium cranks, aerospoke FW and thompson stem and seatpost. its the insta bike of 2010 and god damn i never change a thing on this time capsule. i did put way to much money into this bike in a time when i got no money and as the last trend i run after in my youth i shall keep it to tell my kids one day that you cant buy into beeing cool lol
Fuck.... A lot those frames and parts were taken for granted. Wish I pulled the trigger on the GTB from the 90's I saw on sale on Craigslist for $200. I still have my bareknuckle and my toshi double starps. Good times.
What about the Traitor Ringleader specifically the PBR edition. Very few made and a solid steel frame. Definitely the nicest steel frame ive ever riden. (I own one and love it) also all their components were amazing as well. I miss traitor cycles
@BeboSaab andels are stock cranksets you get for 200 dollar cheap fixed definitely not the same as omniums ...and they don't evencome with a bottom bracket
Is it just srams focus on wireless groupsets and MTB that killed omnium or something like returns on them? Honestly I don't understand the end of them as 1/3 fixed gears I see are omnium fitted, makes my s300s look like Amazon specials
The way I see it is a track bike is so easy to get to the UCI weight minimum that there is little need to invest in lighter designs. Most of us are riding fixed bikes that would be laughed out of any velodrome anyway. When's the last time you glued one tubular tire to ride a fixed gear on the road? It makes no sense for a manufacturer to mass produce a bike for the road that weighs 12 lbs which is attainable. No good for the velodrome, to expensive to ride on the road!
Fair comment im digging my s300s atm and done me well with no issues (the gxp bb is a bonus over the 100s aswell). Theyre a nightnare to source in UK so I just went through Germany and got them for 80 euros haha but yeah on the fixed gears atm, im riding a 4130 tracklocross frame with 700mm bars so my hype machine would be laughed at by the guy on the 6k BMC but then again mine actually has usability outside haha
I looked at that too. What if they stopped making them though? Probably use some weird standards and pricey too. Still got to be about the best of the best and last a long time.
All the richer kids in my town who rode fixies had Aerospokes. I didn't even ride to school back then, and I wanted a pair. I had a mountain bike, it wouldn't have even look right.
Not missing Omnoms, hollow bottom brackets aren't a new concept and SRAM couldn't be bothered to do the obvious homework to ease compatibility. Andel Deluxe are a far better investment and as long as people still hold that Square Taper bottom brackets are 'just as stiff' as hollow spindles then the entire debate of the most rigid crankset simply doesn't hold water.
Apparently according to Hambini the most egregious problem with GXP was the rattling loose fit of non drive side bearing on the shaft. That was enough for me not to "upgrade ".
Omniums! Let the buyer beware. What good is it with their defective bb GXP? Good riddance! I did see an ad for a Sugino crank with either a bb 30 or a 24mm axle design 144 bcd. Maybe you could get one and try it.
the sugino 75dd is just too expensive but looks good. it is also alot better than the omnium but for the price difference i would choose the miche pistard crankset or the vision track crankset that are closer priced to the omnuims
I believe that Miche Primato uses a small Q factor design which won't clear all chain stays. Miche seems to be similar to Campagnolo in their standards and they do not I believe use the JIS standard bottom bracket. Maybe Miche would work on a Cinelli frame. Cinelli now made in Taiwan and that's no guarantee of which standard it's using now.
@@davidburgess741 the primato has a square taper bb and it fits on a jis bb so it shoudnt be a big problem, the pistard fits on all my frames and also have friends who ride it, then omnium didnt fit one of my frames but the pistard did.
Well that's the one I'd use then. If price were no barrier we'd all be riding Hope McClaren track bikes on the road. The market determines what gets produced and it's good to see Omniums leave the gene pool!
Omniums have been discontinued, and the raging Omnium vs. Sugino 75 debate has come to an end. What fixed gear parts from back in the day do you miss?
I miss the omniums and the breakbrake 17 TRANSFER LOW PRO FRAME
also follow my ig @godnnotfamous
I wanted to get the bb17 transfer so bad :(
Can’t forget the gt gutterball
Good morning Zach
No more Omni’s huh?
Literally waiting for an old made in the USA cannondale track frame to arrive in the mail sometime this week... this video made me happy
One of my dream frames, good for you mate!!!
currently looking for a Capo 😵
Good on you Sir.
Enjoy that ride man.
👍
The KHS Aero Track aluminum will always top my list.
Yes, yes, yes!!!!
Just picked up a GTB with Omniums and I’m excited to make it my dream Tarck bike. Big Mash SF inspiration since they’re local to me and have cool new bits that’ll fit the build.
Dudes, I have a legendary part apparently? Last year, I bought a frameset from a cousin for $50 used and couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was... Until now that is. My Leader frame, pre-crap Seatpost clamp gen, is pretty spotless. I think the previous owner before my cousin picked it up painted over with a matte black finish (pretty well I might add) to go with this odd carbon fork. Anyway, I feel freakin' cool as hell right now, ngl.
i always have my eye out for Campagnolo Record Pista cranks, Rolf Prima track wheels, AND THE MOST UNICORN OF ALL CINELLI LASER FRAME!!!!
if i can give you an advice DON T buy cinelli laser it is made with shit and the tubing is basically water pipes
@@dajeromaporcodeddio whT?
Matteo Burragato Sounds like you have one if so I’ll take it off your hands lol
Campagnolo Record Pista cranks are not discontinued.
GIVE ME OMNIUMS OR GIVE ME DEATH!
thanks to this video, I learned the bike frame I recently bought for a steal is an EAI Bareknuckle! I was shocked, I refurbished and repainted it and it rides beautifully!
I can’t read I thought this was about discounted parts lmfao
Lmfaooo this has me in tears
This was all so spot on... I still get a little weak in the knees over those buttery, blue C dale frames..
Omniums were so dope. I hope they come back eventually.
Love your content Zach, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel.
Thank you for motivation.
Vendetta!🤘🤘🤘 Great vid Zach
Great video. It took me back to my first fixed from 2007.
One more vote for PAUL ROYAL FLUSH CRANKSET.
Adding: CAMPAGNOLO SHAMAL TRACK Wheels!!
Stumbled upon this episode again. We really don’t know if omniums have been discontinued... because my local bike spot just restocked 50 units of these in black and 25-30 for the silver ones. Quite a lot in my opinion. ✌🏻
Last batch maybe?
Oem
Well this helped me choose which bike to ride today. Fixie with the Omnium crank!
Leaders 725s we're never my thing. I fell in love with the Renovatio and still wonder why it didn't blow up. That frame had lines for days.
Thank you Zach for your video's. I have a mid 70's Raleigh Super Course i bought at a thrift shop for $12. Its complete and in pretty good shape overall. I've thought about turning it into a single speed. I'm to old and beat up to do a fixie anymore.
I've got the 2008 Cannondale Capo. It fell into their "urban" line up. It retains a fairly steep seat angle and tall bottom bracket but a traditional road bike head tube angle. American made, clean and simple uncluttered paint scheme(unlike many Cannondales of the era). Such a cool fun bike.
I have a titanium Lasky track bike made in to a Single speed pretty amazing with Omnium crank and a Brooks saddle
Lasky?
@@numbaoneg101
Lynskey Ti Bikes.
Great bikes.
I wonder how many people who think they are flexing their cranks, are just flexing the frame at the bottom bracket shell..?
Exactly!
I still have my first bike, a early 80s conversion Centurion sitting on a pair of pink b43s. The front needs truing bad but im lazy to bring it in to a bike shop at the moment. but those wheels look great today and still get a lot of compliments and i've put mine thru hell and they're still serving me well.
Tribe messengers also made triple triangle frameset and are now discontinoued, are they not?
Yes they are, a matter of fact I have one and I gotta love it. 4130 tripple butted Chromoly Steel is reasonably light and durable with decent stiffness
Oh I have a rare pair of 650c velocity b43s in purple and they are amazing. sucks that I don't ride a 47cm or lower frame also FSA vigorelli is something I wish they still made and Unknown bikes type 2
I disagree with Toshi straps being the pinnacle of toe straps. I would consider Kashimax Five Gold toe straps to be the best I have ever used. And they look better.
I also disagree with “SRAM Omniums look pretty dang cool” They very ugly cranks
Paul Royal Flush track cranks are legendary imo and discontinued as well as kashimax top tube protector
For some reason all the fixed bikes I've owned have been classic American frames. Wasn't looking for them but they just ended up coming to me for really cheap
I’m mad you didn’t include the trek t1 😤
I still don't get this dudes hate for the Omnium esp the bottom bracket. I put nearly 4600 miles into mine on a state undefeated mk2 and didn't once have creaking issues but I never tried another frame so those issues frame clearance quirks are probably valid with other frames. I miss that build, whoever was in charge of putting ritchey components and an Omnium on that frame for under 1500 was a mad genius, scholar and gentleperson. That ride was the stiffest, snappiest crank and I was extremely happy. I wasn't hitting crits but I would push hard at times. Gonna miss these 😢
leader bikes was sold to brotures tokyo
What's wheela are on the GT track bike does anyone knows?
Awesome video and lore!
Love seeing all the adangerpdx pictures. That woman has an amazing collection.
her collection makes me sick with jealousy
9:02 anyone know what rack that is?
You forgot the bianchi concept I still have one
Crazy how all these parts are now wanted as soon as their gone
Well, the longer they're gone the rarer they'll be. For some people that matters. Also: The grass is always greener on the other side.
@@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy got me a aerospoke wby bro ?
Even the heavy pedal Zephyr is no more, I missed out on my chance to buy one when I was young and broke.
Adangerpdx always has the dank shots 🙏
Omnium used the gxp type bb though, wear out very quickly on the non drive side bearing. I think miche make a nice looking track cranks et, called the aero or something like that
1985 Schwinn Madison is right up there with the GTB and Dale Track or is that just me?
How about Miche Primato Advanced track JIS are they good?
I'm using them. They're good, as long as the threads don't get loss
Not bad at all. There’s certainly better, but there’s definitely far worse.
Hi sir may I ask if you can make any classic bike into fixies?
Do you guys know where i can buy fixie good parts from US that can shipped to Malaysia. Because here in Malaysia its so hard to find a good part for fixie.
My brother bought his omnium a couple days before they were discontinued
rewop Same, Literally bought the last 165mm , black ones in stock on Amazon
Got mine back in November!! Sadly I haven't been able to give my bike a proper ride since then T_T
Lucky him.
Hey Zach how about explaining the difference between bottom brackets? Like this kind of bottom bracket one would use for omniums, I don't get how they are installed 😅
my bike got stolen so I decided to recreate it. Than I realized tI couldn't get an Aerospoke or an Omnium anymore...
The KHS pursuit stole many hearts.
Review pake stuff please. I have a RR and french
RIP Surly Steamroller 😢 gone but not forgotten… because I ride mine every day
I got orange b43 in 2012 still riding them now
The ayrton silverstone is similar to the cannondale track but only cost around 380~usd. What are your opinions?
I've never ridden either, but Cannondale has a reputation for having an awesome ride quality . While the Ayrton Silverstone looks like a nice frameset, looking like a Cannondale Track and riding like a Cannondale Track are completely different things. Solid choice if you just want something that's inspired by the legendary frameset.
@@ZachGallardo thanks. The frame is decently spec'd for the price with 6061 triple butted aluminium the kendo orbit is only 6061 double butted but it's more expensive in my country atleast
2. GT frameset is an all time classic that I think all of us has owned at some point or another starting in the late 90’s with the track bike boom. Great messenger frame. 1. The Cannondale is just a masterpiece!! The beauty of steel frame with the attributes and handling of aluminum. Another frame us old schoolers have been building up for decades now. Every line in the geometry is pure perfection! It is the holy grail of American track frames!!!!!! So yeah super good call putting them at their respective places. I kinda thought these two would make the list if you put framesets on and not just components!!!!
The Cannondale is aluminium not steel
I love my gt triple triangle.
Hey, my bike shop said I couldn’t change my 130 bcd bottom bracket to a 144. Is there a reason for that?
Um, bcds are only for cranks not bottom brackets
BCD, or bolt circle diameter refers to cranks and chainrings. So if you want to go from 130 to 144, you would need a new crank and chainring.
Of course, the new crankset must be compatible with the bottom bracket (and the bottom bracket must be compatible with the frame), but otherwise it should be straightforward.
Maybe get a second opinion from another shop.
I would like to offer you a good frame made in the philippines ave maldea frame this one is a solid frame
Is the All-City Nature Boy ACE a good buy or are there similar bikes that have a better bang for your buck?
@BeboSaab thanks for the reply. I ended up buying lol.
i got a grey cinelli mash with omnium cranks, aerospoke FW and thompson stem and seatpost. its the insta bike of 2010 and god damn i never change a thing on this time capsule. i did put way to much money into this bike in a time when i got no money and as the last trend i run after in my youth i shall keep it to tell my kids one day that you cant buy into beeing cool lol
Sran Omnium doesn't make cranksets anymore. WTF. I love mine and I havent had any issues with mine ever these past 6 years.
Fuck.... A lot those frames and parts were taken for granted. Wish I pulled the trigger on the GTB from the 90's I saw on sale on Craigslist for $200. I still have my bareknuckle and my toshi double starps. Good times.
What about the Traitor Ringleader specifically the PBR edition. Very few made and a solid steel frame. Definitely the nicest steel frame ive ever riden. (I own one and love it) also all their components were amazing as well. I miss traitor cycles
The aventon mataro black with black lettering i have it.
How about cinelli laser pista?
Thank you sir someone had to say it!
I didn't even know omniums are out of production good thing Igot one before
@BeboSaab andels are stock cranksets you get for 200 dollar cheap fixed definitely not the same as omniums ...and they don't evencome with a bottom bracket
What about Cinelli Laser?
Is it just srams focus on wireless groupsets and MTB that killed omnium or something like returns on them? Honestly I don't understand the end of them as 1/3 fixed gears I see are omnium fitted, makes my s300s look like Amazon specials
The way I see it is a track bike is so easy to get to the UCI weight minimum that there is little need to invest in lighter designs. Most of us are riding fixed bikes that would be laughed out of any velodrome anyway. When's the last time you glued one tubular tire to ride a fixed gear on the road? It makes no sense for a manufacturer to mass produce a bike for the road that weighs 12 lbs which is attainable. No good for the velodrome, to expensive to ride on the road!
Fair comment im digging my s300s atm and done me well with no issues (the gxp bb is a bonus over the 100s aswell). Theyre a nightnare to source in UK so I just went through Germany and got them for 80 euros haha but yeah on the fixed gears atm, im riding a 4130 tracklocross frame with 700mm bars so my hype machine would be laughed at by the guy on the 6k BMC but then again mine actually has usability outside haha
If I was gonna get track ready gear now id prob go 75s anyway now
No GT pulse mention?
Campagnolo shamal pista wheelset should have been mentioned on here.
“As, present as a bolt” 😂
Well done
hello zach is the cinelli mash bolt 2.0 frameset worth it? nOtiCE mE pLS
Just snapped my pair of Toshis skidding down a hill, and almost fell Into traffic. RIP Toshis
You were doing so great, but no mention of Paul's Royal Flush cranks?
I looked at that too. What if they stopped making them though? Probably use some weird standards and pricey too. Still got to be about the best of the best and last a long time.
Gotta love Jason clip
How about the rookiez fork
All the richer kids in my town who rode fixies had Aerospokes. I didn't even ride to school back then, and I wanted a pair. I had a mountain bike, it wouldn't have even look right.
At 74k views seeing only 1.4k likes, that’s really strange.
Part 2?
BMW Gangsta Track frame. Grime Yo Mang frame.
*Le sigh.*
how the hell do you buy a collosi
specialized Langster track
i have a Kilo TT & a GTB :P lov'em to death :)
Hi Zack
No words about fgfs
SAG bags?
Why u don't use modern fixie
What about the legendary Swobo Sanchez? /s
Not missing Omnoms, hollow bottom brackets aren't a new concept and SRAM couldn't be bothered to do the obvious homework to ease compatibility. Andel Deluxe are a far better investment and as long as people still hold that Square Taper bottom brackets are 'just as stiff' as hollow spindles then the entire debate of the most rigid crankset simply doesn't hold water.
Apparently according to Hambini the most egregious problem with GXP was the rattling loose fit of non drive side bearing on the shaft. That was enough for me not to "upgrade ".
FiveGold Top Tube protector
B43 and aerospoke we just plain heavy. A simple velocity deep v, light and stiff any day.
Shit, your video make me feel old.
Golden cycle track
Now navigate the next aero spoke
All these super stiff cranks with the cheapest BMX pedals available, lmao
Omniums! Let the buyer beware. What good is it with their defective bb GXP? Good riddance! I did see an ad for a Sugino crank with either a bb 30 or a 24mm axle design 144 bcd. Maybe you could get one and try it.
the sugino 75dd is just too expensive but looks good. it is also alot better than the omnium but for the price difference i would choose the miche pistard crankset or the vision track crankset that are closer priced to the omnuims
I believe that Miche Primato uses a small Q factor design which won't clear all chain stays. Miche seems to be similar to Campagnolo in their standards and they do not I believe use the JIS standard bottom bracket. Maybe Miche would work on a Cinelli frame. Cinelli now made in Taiwan and that's no guarantee of which standard it's using now.
@@davidburgess741 the primato has a square taper bb and it fits on a jis bb so it shoudnt be a big problem, the pistard fits on all my frames and also have friends who ride it, then omnium didnt fit one of my frames but the pistard did.
Well that's the one I'd use then. If price were no barrier we'd all be riding Hope McClaren track bikes on the road. The market determines what gets produced and it's good to see Omniums leave the gene pool!
Hey I've been hunting for a GTB for like 4yrs now, if anyone one has a line on one 59cm+ I'd be interested to hear about it.
shardy on fixed gear buy and sell NYC on FB is selling his
legendary pokemon bike
this video made me feel old :(
I just bought a new omnium 😎
Great video ⭐️ this one is one my favorites and what about Easton monkey bars
Fan from Philippines!!
Shout out to Ave Maldea! How to place an order from Hawaii?? I don’t speak Tagalog or Ilocano. Someone repping Philippines please help
Everytime u say 'everyone I've spoken to' this or that, u mean everything I've read on reddit or forums.