As a Zimbabwean in his fifties, bride price is traditionally meant to bind the two families. It is a token of appreciation to the in-laws that they groomed someone , basically a stranger to us, who becomes an integral part of us. It's unfortunate that it's being monetised, thereby losing its essence. Thank you Megabush family for bringing this up. We have done these traditions from our forefathers. Keep on this track to show the other cultures, why we are who we are..
I appreciate that some African customs and traditions are still preserved but the modernization of these cultures are placing too much emphasis on monetary value: thus making it solely monetary transaction is the real motive to have these ceremonies. It dilutes the tradition. Question: what happens if the marriage doesn’t work out? Will the family return the money? 👍🏿🇺🇸
You’re welcome! This is the concern a lot of Zimbabweans are crying about, especially the young men. So we we’re quite interested to see what the responses would be here.
@@worldtraveler2417it all depends with how the marriage breakdown if for instance the wife cheated or maybe has problems getting pregnant they can be some repayments if the husbands family decides and also there is another custom culture called gupuro (rejection token)this is when the husband decides he doesn’t want the wife anymore so he gives her a very small amount and money and tells her this is your rejection token you and me are done .
Ladies sit on the floor because back in the day women used to have pride in their reed mats and carpets so when a ceremony like this comes up all beautiful mats came out and people ended up accepting it as a tradition while men used to show off their carving skills by bringing wooden stools so it became tradition as well. Women who had men that loved them made them mats from goat and cow hide.
Fantastic content as always. I am Zimbabwean and I personally feel that dowry in Zimbabwe has become transactional and exploitative and people have forgotten the true meaning of what the culture represents. A token isn't supposed to affect the suitor's budget in a big way. I think that Namibians are the ones who totally understand what significance the dowry custom has in African culture. I watched one Nambian youtuber's dowry video and all her family charged was 1 cow. They were really happy receiving this token. That to me is a real token, not dowry amounts enough to change a family's financial wellbeing. I also think that charging dowry in exhorbitant amounts can in a way fuel domestic violence. That is the reason why some husbands alienate their wives from their families as they would have felt cheated in the way the dowry ceremony would have been conducted. I know of grooms who walked out on proceedings out of frustration. That's my take on it all. Your content is quite impressive👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾! Keep going.
Hi Faith! First of all thanks for watching! Secondly, that is for the feedback. We’ve actually heard this same sentiment from so many other Zimbabweans: that dowry these days is more exhorbitant than back in the day and is actually making some men disgruntled like you’ve said here. We hope those on the other side of this matter will also respond here so that we enlighten each other. Keep supporting 👏🏾
@@TheMegabushFamily you are welcome and the pleasure is all mine. I am so glad that I am not the only Zimbabwean who feels this way. I am looking forward to reading more comments on this topic.
West will never understand Loyola. We could explain a million times that we don't sell and we're never sold. Lobola is a beautiful exchange and solidifying relationship
It has been practised in our families for generations before us.And also varies according to how educated the bride is! If they get blessed with children they will also do the same thing.English is not my language could express more in my shona language.Marriages are so different some people does not appreciate their wives so cant just get them for free l hope l am making sense..Thank you so much for sharing!❤❤❤🙏
@@TheMegabushFamily Not as such that type of men who are abusive will say "Thats why l didnt pay anything for you, you are useless"Paying lobola also is a good thing incase you get abused your parents would have had something.Its a tricky situation hahahaha!My 2cents🙌✌️🙏
@TheMegabushFam it's almost the same, two families meet twice,1st meeting is called" knocking ,asking for water" meaning, we saw a lady,so asking for her hand in marriage, The family will give an amount for the 1. Opening the mouth to talk to them ,followed by 2.amount of lobola Than we return the news to the family of the husband to be 2nd visit is the real lobola and celebration 🍾 like in Zim
The practice is indeed a token of appreciation although some people are abusing it and i think there is a need to regulate it through traditional leaders same applies to religion we have seen a proliferation of different churches and some people abusing the culture of the church
Most people do not understand the secrect of bride price. Its spiritual and physical display of sacrifice. Anything truly love you sacrifice for it. Also if you can give money away it means you can always get more proof you can take care of our daughter. When you understand these thing you freely pay lobola. Same like in church. If you love God you make an offering freely.Thsee spiritual principles. When you apply them you enjoy life.
It is not every Family that has Women from the groom sit on the floor, but if it happens, again, that is just a way of showing respect to the Groom and his Family.
@@TheMegabushFamily It is not every Family that has Women from the groom sit on the floor, but if it happens, again, that is just a way of showing respect to the Groom and his Family. Thus also to entice the Groom and his Family to reckon that this are marrying into a humbled and well groomed Family.
@@TheMegabushFamily sitting on the floor is a sign of modesty and submission to the heads of the family. Normal on formal traditional occasions like marriage or funeral. The inlaws (men) also sit on the floor until they finish the process as submission and respect. Once accepted you are allowed on chairs.
We only know about it through marriage. And it’s not easy, current Zim immigration policy allows for spousal permits for foreigners married to locals and grants residency only after 5 years of continuously stating in the country. Unlike in Jamaica, Canada, the US etc. where your marriage is enough for citizenship to be granted.
Mrs Megabush I look forward to the videos. Tony sound is low. You may have to invest in that clip on mic other youtubers attach to their interviewees, just so we can hear him at the same level as you near the mic. Great content tho as always my yardy sister.
The word used in Shona is 'Kubvisa' 'Kubvisa Roora' which has no English equivalent. It is not the same word as 'Kubhadhara' which literally translates to 'To pay'. This signifies to me that the process has nothing to do with buying a wife. Its a standalone process with its own significance and integrity. In many familes, the money exchanged is supposed to come back to the young couple. The money the relatives receive is supposed to be used to buy house warming gifts for the new couple. People get greedy though, and thats because people are greedy. The idea that Roora leds to domestic abuse makes no sense. Abusers need no reason to abuse. Youll find abusers in cultures where no Roora is exchanged. You even find abusers Male to Female in cultures where the Grooms family receives the dowry.
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A woman is said to be the bearer of her husbands children . So roora amalobolo is an appreciation in advance that the bride will be responsible for the growth of her family to be
Unfortunately this practice has subsequently caused a lot of abuse for the brides.. Most men act entitled..treat wives as assets ..they have so much expectations from their wives (since they "bought" them..they should perform) failure to meet these expectations can lead to financial and physical abuse..let alone if the man is indignant and resentful about the amount of the money he paid for lobola..
This is very true and when women go back to their family to complain of abuse and infidelity. They are told to just deal with it. That's how men are. Sometimes even the mother in laws are abusive and it's just okay. I think if it was more of a man gifts what he has to the family as a token of appreciation rather than entering negotiations for what the parents think the bride is worth/ what society deems is the worth of the bride maybe I would look at it differently.
As a woman u are not allowed to have shortcomings and flaws otherwise your husband will continue to taunt u by referencing how much he paid your family.. u suffer for that lobola money!!!...if u decide to end the marriage your family will encourage u to stay with him because of that money!!!!!
That’s just terrible! Do you think those men would’ve behaved any differently if they hadn’t paid lobola? There’s the idea that abusive men are abusive whether or not they paid bride prize. What do you think?
@TheMegabushFam I'm feeling the same way you do, watching this traditional proceeding. Firstly you stated there is negotiation and persons are able to protest or deny the union if they feel what is paid is not substantial enough. These factors alone smacks of a sale. I believe there should be simply a set of things and expectations and during a wedding some of those things are brought out, depending on the pockets of the givers. Since us in the west are just now learning about Zim ( and other African cultural norms), please give us time to understand it all. In the west or let's just say in a Jamaican's wedding none of this up front money handling is done. There is a gifting table and envelope receptacle sometimes, and guests will bring in their gifts and place in that area.. similarly envelopes with money/checks ( hidden not in the open) are placed in the receptacle or handed to a designated receiver. Add to that a Jamaican or most black weddings in the west are done in 2 parts. A wedding ceremony at a church or venue where an official person joins the two in marriage with only rings and book signings. NO money is shown there or gift given, so technically the perception of buying the pride never enters the thought. The wedding reception after is where the gifting and moneys/checks are given and food is eaten , speeches made,and partying follows. A 3 rd part then would be the bride and groom go on a honeymoon, usually In a different city or country, all based on the couples budget or a lavish travel gift by monies a family member ,of either bride or groom. Similarly both families are typically now cojoined and the mother in laws can start the process of annoying the hell out of the brides by helping them choose home curtains or insisting on making their sons actual food and not Mcdonalds ( because here thats not a good thing)😂
@@TheMegabushFamily Agreed, I think that abusive men would’ve still been abusive with or without the Lobola. A good man would not use this to belittle his wife or look at her as his “property” or less than. However, I think Lobola plays a part in women not being protected and encouraged to leave abusive situations by the family. And can even make it difficult for the women to think they deserve to leave. I will say if I was marrying a Zimbabwean man and my parents insisted I would likely do it for culture sake.
In Ndebele culture, it's supposed to bind the two families together as well as the groom's family proving that they have the capacity to provide for the bride and the offspring. Also, the lobola usually includes a cow for the mother of the bride, blankets etc.
It seems like buying the bride. I don’t care what sort of explanations these people say/give I have heard them all. Now I am waiting for how my family will react when I say I am not engaging
Megabush family lets use this video as a town square for knowledge exchange where us in the west learn from you there and vice versa. Some folks will get very defensive if you question anything customary or even provide positive suggestions. My Kenyan ex girlfriend will argue to the death that the proper way to eat is with your bare hands. Then i throw back , why won't my african brothers and sisters not just maintain all old customs. Dont drive, fly, use cell phones, or wear jeans, just keep it like it was back then. Thats when the dissent drops in. It seems a futile issue. So she used her hands ( in the home - but conveniently not on restaurant dates) and i use my fork. Anything to keep the peace and to get my nyash.😊
It varies with families.There is no one size fits all. Some do consider the fact that they invested a lot in their daughter to give her a better platform to start her life. Context, in these cases is very important. It goes back to our society which is patriacial. With some cultures, unless you pay lobola, the kids belongs to the " wife".
I THINK THIS EXCHANGE OF MONEY SHOULD STOP ! ESPECIALLY THE BIDDING FOR MORE❤ THEY SHOULD JUST DEAL WITH THE CONTRIBUTION OF FOODSTUFFS AND CLOTHING ❤ WHO AGREE WITH ME ??❤
It used to be cows but now people live in the city so they take cash. That back and forth is very important as it helps to learn each others mindset. Normally payment is flexible and is paid over a lifetime if the groom is not well off. If you think of it as selling you are lost. It has a deeper spiritual meaning.
We get asked this so many times 😄 No he didn’t, he came to Jamaica to marry, so he respected our practices (my dad wasn’t too keen on accepting dowry-was unfamiliar to him, he asked instead that Tony shows his appreciation by treasuring me).
Usually african man do not pay dowdy for foreign black women because it's not the women culture. Some do. I know a black american couple who accepted a dowry for their daughter who was marrying a ghanian. They live in Ghana and embraced the culture
I am jamaican married to a Zimbabwean, and I often joke to him that he got away without paying my dowry 😅😅. He says he owes my parents some cows, etc 😅😅😅. Love you guys ❤
Lobola is spiritual and indeed an economic activity. That's the joy of it. If you can have a daugher you get cattle. With cattle you plow fields and plant crops. Its a system which makes sure everyone has something. Vakuru vekare vanga vasiina kupusa.
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As a Zimbabwean in his fifties, bride price is traditionally meant to bind the two families. It is a token of appreciation to the in-laws that they groomed someone , basically a stranger to us, who becomes an integral part of us. It's unfortunate that it's being monetised, thereby losing its essence. Thank you Megabush family for bringing this up. We have done these traditions from our forefathers. Keep on this track to show the other cultures, why we are who we are..
I appreciate that some African customs and traditions are still preserved but the modernization of these cultures are placing too much emphasis on monetary value: thus making it solely monetary transaction is the real motive to have these ceremonies. It dilutes the tradition.
Question: what happens if the marriage doesn’t work out? Will the family return the money? 👍🏿🇺🇸
You’re welcome! This is the concern a lot of Zimbabweans are crying about, especially the young men. So we we’re quite interested to see what the responses would be here.
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@@worldtraveler2417it all depends with how the marriage breakdown if for instance the wife cheated or maybe has problems getting pregnant they can be some repayments if the husbands family decides and also there is another custom culture called gupuro (rejection token)this is when the husband decides he doesn’t want the wife anymore so he gives her a very small amount and money and tells her this is your rejection token you and me are done .
also that man can take care of the wife
My fiance is Zimbabwean. I am so intrigued by the culture and I am slowly learning Shona lol....I am so in love with my Zim ❤
Aww lovely! Where are you from! Yes! Do learn Shona..you must! It’s exciting to experience your partner’s culture!
Welcome to Zim🎈
Lobola is negotiable always and it's a token of appreciation. Nothing more. Nothing less
Great content about this tradition. Thank you for using your family important occasions to document it.
Our pleasure!
Thanks for sharing this part your culture Megabush. Love you guys!
You’re always welcome MaiJanay! We love you too! Thank you thank you thank you for watching so faithfully! Bless!
Ladies sit on the floor because back in the day women used to have pride in their reed mats and carpets so when a ceremony like this comes up all beautiful mats came out and people ended up accepting it as a tradition while men used to show off their carving skills by bringing wooden stools so it became tradition as well. Women who had men that loved them made them mats from goat and cow hide.
Ohh interesting explanation! Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic content as always. I am Zimbabwean and I personally feel that dowry in Zimbabwe has become transactional and exploitative and people have forgotten the true meaning of what the culture represents. A token isn't supposed to affect the suitor's budget in a big way. I think that Namibians are the ones who totally understand what significance the dowry custom has in African culture. I watched one Nambian youtuber's dowry video and all her family charged was 1 cow. They were really happy receiving this token. That to me is a real token, not dowry amounts enough to change a family's financial wellbeing. I also think that charging dowry in exhorbitant amounts can in a way fuel domestic violence. That is the reason why some husbands alienate their wives from their families as they would have felt cheated in the way the dowry ceremony would have been conducted. I know of grooms who walked out on proceedings out of frustration. That's my take on it all. Your content is quite impressive👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾! Keep going.
Hi Faith! First of all thanks for watching!
Secondly, that is for the feedback. We’ve actually heard this same sentiment from so many other Zimbabweans: that dowry these days is more exhorbitant than back in the day and is actually making some men disgruntled like you’ve said here.
We hope those on the other side of this matter will also respond here so that we enlighten each other.
Keep supporting 👏🏾
@@TheMegabushFamily you are welcome and the pleasure is all mine. I am so glad that I am not the only Zimbabwean who feels this way. I am looking forward to reading more comments on this topic.
I love this
Nice video,charming as always, I loved it ❤,Guinea 🇬🇶
Glad you enjoyed it! ❤️
Great content! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
Mega-Entertainment!!! I always look forward to your content
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 Thanks for supporting!!! Let’s keep pushing! Bless!
@@TheMegabushFamily All the way, brother 🙏🤜🤛👍
West will never understand Loyola. We could explain a million times that we don't sell and we're never sold. Lobola is a beautiful exchange and solidifying relationship
It has been practised in our families for generations before us.And also varies according to how educated the bride is! If they get blessed with children they will also do the same thing.English is not my language could express more in my shona language.Marriages are so different some people does not appreciate their wives so cant just get them for free l hope l am making sense..Thank you so much for sharing!❤❤❤🙏
You make a lot of sense.
And in the case where men don’t appreciate their wives, do you think paying the dowry changes this?
@@TheMegabushFamily Not as such that type of men who are abusive will say "Thats why l didnt pay anything for you, you are useless"Paying lobola also is a good thing incase you get abused your parents would have had something.Its a tricky situation hahahaha!My 2cents🙌✌️🙏
Beautiful bride
Yes she is!
Interesting video
Thoroughly enjoyed this. This custom should be kept....it's unfortunate that some "overcharge'. A token should just be that
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for contributing to the discussion!
Thanks for sharing, Zim is my neighbour, so i now knowledgeble what to expect regarding lobola
Good! How is it done in your country?
@TheMegabushFam it's almost the same, two families meet twice,1st meeting is called" knocking ,asking for water" meaning, we saw a lady,so asking for her hand in marriage,
The family will give an amount for the 1. Opening the mouth to talk to them ,followed by
2.amount of lobola
Than we return the news to the family of the husband to be
2nd visit is the real lobola and celebration 🍾 like in Zim
The practice is indeed a token of appreciation although some people are abusing it and i think there is a need to regulate it through traditional leaders same applies to religion we have seen a proliferation of different churches and some people abusing the culture of the church
It seems as human we alway find a way to abuse and distort everything initially meant for good.
Women's sit on the floor for reasons of modesty. Women never used to wear trousers in the olden days..
Most people do not understand the secrect of bride price. Its spiritual and physical display of sacrifice. Anything truly love you sacrifice for it. Also if you can give money away it means you can always get more proof you can take care of our daughter. When you understand these thing you freely pay lobola. Same like in church. If you love God you make an offering freely.Thsee spiritual principles. When you apply them you enjoy life.
Thanks for sharing your take Douglas!
Sitting down on the floor is showing respect to the Woman's Family and paying Lobola/Roora is sacred and very Spiritual.
How about the women who are sitting on the floor who are all from the bride’s family? 🤔
It is not every Family that has Women from the groom sit on the floor, but if it happens, again, that is just a way of showing respect to the Groom and his Family.
@@TheMegabushFamily It is not every Family that has Women from the groom sit on the floor, but if it happens, again, that is just a way of showing respect to the Groom and his Family. Thus also to entice the Groom and his Family to reckon that this are marrying into a humbled and well groomed Family.
@@TheMegabushFamily sitting on the floor is a sign of modesty and submission to the heads of the family. Normal on formal traditional occasions like marriage or funeral. The inlaws (men) also sit on the floor until they finish the process as submission and respect. Once accepted you are allowed on chairs.
@TheMegabushFamily How can jamaicans get residency in zimbawe?
We only know about it through marriage. And it’s not easy, current Zim immigration policy allows for spousal permits for foreigners married to locals and grants residency only after 5 years of continuously stating in the country. Unlike in Jamaica, Canada, the US etc. where your marriage is enough for citizenship to be granted.
Mrs Megabush I look forward to the videos. Tony sound is low. You may have to invest in that clip on mic other youtubers attach to their interviewees, just so we can hear him at the same level as you near the mic. Great content tho as always my yardy sister.
Very true we are looking for affordable options of mics
My bro murungu and sista debs nice video
Thanks for watching man!
Haaa inini I'm just loving Vakwasha masteak lol
Beautiful
I keep my blinker on you!!! 😎😎😎
Ghana also has traditional marriage which comes first before any.
What’s the ceremony like? Please share!
Genesis 34:12 “Ask me ever so much bridal payment and gift, and I will give according as you say to me; but give me the girl in marriage.”
“Bride Price”
Jacob in the Bible was not having brideprice and he worked for some years to get the wife
You're talking about the bible. This is Zimbabwean tradition and culture. It's got nothing to do with Christianity. Dont confuse between the 2
Another one my Mega 👪
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The Bible is part of our culture, we've got Crosses all over our ancient cities
The word used in Shona is 'Kubvisa' 'Kubvisa Roora' which has no English equivalent. It is not the same word as 'Kubhadhara' which literally translates to 'To pay'. This signifies to me that the process has nothing to do with buying a wife. Its a standalone process with its own significance and integrity. In many familes, the money exchanged is supposed to come back to the young couple. The money the relatives receive is supposed to be used to buy house warming gifts for the new couple. People get greedy though, and thats because people are greedy. The idea that Roora leds to domestic abuse makes no sense. Abusers need no reason to abuse. Youll find abusers in cultures where no Roora is exchanged. You even find abusers Male to Female in cultures where the Grooms family receives the dowry.
Insightful
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Tony your volume is low.
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A woman is said to be the bearer of her husbands children . So roora amalobolo is an appreciation in advance that the bride will be responsible for the growth of her family to be
Thanks for your input. Hope those reading are also learning.
Thanks for your input. Hope those reading are also learning.
Thanks for your input. Hope those reading are also learning.
Without dowry you can have your court or church wedding but in the eyes of a Zimbabwean the marriage is null and void,murikuchaya poto ie cohabiting.
Some of these families over charge ndo chokwadi chiri pachena
Unfortunately this practice has subsequently caused a lot of abuse for the brides.. Most men act entitled..treat wives as assets ..they have so much expectations from their wives (since they "bought" them..they should perform) failure to meet these expectations can lead to financial and physical abuse..let alone if the man is indignant and resentful about the amount of the money he paid for lobola..
This is very true and when women go back to their family to complain of abuse and infidelity. They are told to just deal with it. That's how men are. Sometimes even the mother in laws are abusive and it's just okay. I think if it was more of a man gifts what he has to the family as a token of appreciation rather than entering negotiations for what the parents think the bride is worth/ what society deems is the worth of the bride maybe I would look at it differently.
As a woman u are not allowed to have shortcomings and flaws otherwise your husband will continue to taunt u by referencing how much he paid your family.. u suffer for that lobola money!!!...if u decide to end the marriage your family will encourage u to stay with him because of that money!!!!!
That’s just terrible! Do you think those men would’ve behaved any differently if they hadn’t paid lobola? There’s the idea that abusive men are abusive whether or not they paid bride prize. What do you think?
@TheMegabushFam I'm feeling the same way you do, watching this traditional proceeding. Firstly you stated there is negotiation and persons are able to protest or deny the union if they feel what is paid is not substantial enough. These factors alone smacks of a sale. I believe there should be simply a set of things and expectations and during a wedding some of those things are brought out, depending on the pockets of the givers. Since us in the west are just now learning about Zim ( and other African cultural norms), please give us time to understand it all. In the west or let's just say in a Jamaican's wedding none of this up front money handling is done. There is a gifting table and envelope receptacle sometimes, and guests will bring in their gifts and place in that area.. similarly envelopes with money/checks ( hidden not in the open) are placed in the receptacle or handed to a designated receiver. Add to that a Jamaican or most black weddings in the west are done in 2 parts. A wedding ceremony at a church or venue where an official person joins the two in marriage with only rings and book signings. NO money is shown there or gift given, so technically the perception of buying the pride never enters the thought. The wedding reception after is where the gifting and moneys/checks are given and food is eaten , speeches made,and partying follows. A 3 rd part then would be the bride and groom go on a honeymoon, usually In a different city or country, all based on the couples budget or a lavish travel gift by monies a family member ,of either bride or groom. Similarly both families are typically now cojoined and the mother in laws can start the process of annoying the hell out of the brides by helping them choose home curtains or insisting on making their sons actual food and not Mcdonalds ( because here thats not a good thing)😂
@@TheMegabushFamily Agreed, I think that abusive men would’ve still been abusive with or without the Lobola. A good man would not use this to belittle his wife or look at her as his “property” or less than. However, I think Lobola plays a part in women not being protected and encouraged to leave abusive situations by the family. And can even make it difficult for the women to think they deserve to leave. I will say if I was marrying a Zimbabwean man and my parents insisted I would likely do it for culture sake.
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In Ndebele culture, it's supposed to bind the two families together as well as the groom's family proving that they have the capacity to provide for the bride and the offspring. Also, the lobola usually includes a cow for the mother of the bride, blankets etc.
Ok. So it’s a time for the groom to “prove himself” got it. What do you think the mani differences are between Ndebele and Shona lobola ceremonies?
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You are!!! You deserve a prize!! 😂😂🤗🤗🤗❤️❤️
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It seems like buying the bride. I don’t care what sort of explanations these people say/give I have heard them all. Now I am waiting for how my family will react when I say I am not engaging
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The bargaining is more of a game....
Is it? 😄
Even the Chinese do dowry and that
Megabush family lets use this video as a town square for knowledge exchange where us in the west learn from you there and vice versa. Some folks will get very defensive if you question anything customary or even provide positive suggestions. My Kenyan ex girlfriend will argue to the death that the proper way to eat is with your bare hands. Then i throw back , why won't my african brothers and sisters not just maintain all old customs. Dont drive, fly, use cell phones, or wear jeans, just keep it like it was back then. Thats when the dissent drops in. It seems a futile issue. So she used her hands ( in the home - but conveniently not on restaurant dates) and i use my fork. Anything to keep the peace and to get my nyash.😊
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Culture is adaptable its not rigid. It also has core values and pillars. These are the pillars.
😂you didn’t actually answer the question of how much the bride price is
😂😂😂😂 We were hoping we could discuss here! Mazimbos please tell us! They say Zim is poor! Lol if only they knew what some people pay 😌😌😌
It varies with families.There is no one size fits all. Some do consider the fact that they invested a lot in their daughter to give her a better platform to start her life. Context, in these cases is very important. It goes back to our society which is patriacial. With some cultures, unless you pay lobola, the kids belongs to the " wife".
Bride price depends on the family
How would you say it varies among families? The amount? Or?
I THINK THIS EXCHANGE OF MONEY SHOULD STOP ! ESPECIALLY THE BIDDING FOR MORE❤ THEY SHOULD JUST DEAL WITH THE CONTRIBUTION OF FOODSTUFFS AND CLOTHING ❤ WHO AGREE WITH ME ??❤
It used to be cows but now people live in the city so they take cash. That back and forth is very important as it helps to learn each others mindset. Normally payment is flexible and is paid over a lifetime if the groom is not well off. If you think of it as selling you are lost. It has a deeper spiritual meaning.
Lobola is a scarm and should be abolished
It depends with families. Some are not greedy and just do it as a tradition.
By the same measure your white wedding is a scam
Did you husband went through a similar process when you two got married?
We get asked this so many times 😄 No he didn’t, he came to Jamaica to marry, so he respected our practices (my dad wasn’t too keen on accepting dowry-was unfamiliar to him, he asked instead that Tony shows his appreciation by treasuring me).
Usually african man do not pay dowdy for foreign black women because it's not the women culture. Some do. I know a black american couple who accepted a dowry for their daughter who was marrying a ghanian. They live in Ghana and embraced the culture
@@TheMegabushFamilyunderstood. Thank you for the clarification.
I am jamaican married to a Zimbabwean, and I often joke to him that he got away without paying my dowry 😅😅. He says he owes my parents some cows, etc 😅😅😅. Love you guys ❤
Paying lobola in whatever cost it simply intrapreneur idea🤣😂you are simlpy funding someone business.
Lobola is spiritual and indeed an economic activity. That's the joy of it. If you can have a daugher you get cattle. With cattle you plow fields and plant crops. Its a system which makes sure everyone has something. Vakuru vekare vanga vasiina kupusa.