Your mean... you scared the hell out of me. I will say though your brave for letting the internet see your feet there are a lot of concerning and disturbing people out there
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@SkillTree loved the video! Very cool. Just wanted you to know that the Discord pictures didn't play.
No, it alluded to the channel finnishing, not about anything else. You may like insincerity in what the content is and how they portrayed it, it may even give you fuzzy feels, does that mean others should just accept it? A thumbnail is meant to be a clever creative way to, in one pic, capture what the content is about, this was far from it.
@@davidb_x_x1253 Well dang man, I was just trying to provide quick comfort to people who saw the title and thumbnail. I left the comment during the first few seconds and didn’t have time to watch the whole video, so sorry if my comment brought the wrong message ig
I'm a off and on follower, but that Cickbait totally grabbed me. Haha 😂 I'm glad you were just baiting. I love what you do, and find myself bac😂k watching in binge runs every time I return. I've been subscribed for a few years, I think 🤔 Keep up the great work. I'll see if I can afford to patreon soon. Retired, old furtrade reenactor and Renaissance fair participater. 😮😊
For the last time, the last time we asked for we asked them to at last turn their attention to lasts, we were promised that at last a last video would be coming and that would be the last time we'd have to ask.
for shoe enthusiasts, I also recommend Nicole Rudolph!! She works or used to work with American Duchess, which makes historical reproduction shoes using historical methods! She's a trained cobbler who does make her shoes (and lasts) by hand. :D This was a great video and I like it a lot.
Nicole Rudolph saved me so much money by doing such a good job of explaining and demonstrating the process of shoemaking that I NOPED! away from that new hobby. Morgan Donner has a video about making a more primitive shoe construction that doesn’t use lasts. I have that in my back pocket for when I’m out of projects. Maybe in 2199…
@@nightfall3605 YESSSSS TURNSHOES. Nicole's done some turnshoes too!! Morgan is AMAZING. like that whole damn circle is great if you want Attire Help. Abby Cox, Bernadette Banner, Morgan Donner, Nicole Rudolph, Rachel Maksy, and Karolina (I can't remember how to spell her last name). Can't recommend this lot enough!!!
I second the recommendation of Nicole Rudolph for all things shoemaking! She has such a vast store of knowledge, and she makes it all so accessible to the viewer.
And here is my last comment: You could also buy cheap, old ones made out of wood online, which are larger then your actual foot and then carve them to the desired measurements :)
I like the alginate mold. Inexpensive, easy, and reusable. Being able to recreate a new last on-demand when an old one breaks or is worn out is a bonus. For any of the mold-making using a person's foot, you do want to make sure you take the mold while the person is standing. Foot shape changes (mostly wider and flatter) when you stand and if you don't account for that your shoes will end up too tight. Having watched shoe-making videos before, I think the foam is an OK easy idea but not very usable for much but a turn shoe. The wooden last will work for any shoe design including modern shoes and boots, since you can easily stretch your material over the last and nail into place. You can use plasticizers with plaster to make a composite resin that could work too, but at that point you might just buy last-specific resin.
The only one of those materials that I believe would be useable to make more than a coupple of pairs is the wooden last. Cardborad and low density foam can be compressed and scraped while to handling, so the shape and size will vary; even the Mod Podge will not prevent it, it may help to delay the damage. Also, do not use pins or staples directly on the last: use a ligth glue. There are glues specifically created for it, to prevent damaging the last; the pins will weaken the material, eventually ruining the shape. You can use pins with the wooden last, because the wood can take some damage. But it will need a cobler's hammer, and it will eventually ruin it. BTW, you can BUY the lasts pre-made to fit, in a variety of shapes in order to make different stiles of shoes, like high heels, flip-flops, knee-high boots, each one needs a different shape of last. Sure, at $10 to $25 the pair it can be expensive for a single use, but if you want to make more than a couple of pairs it may be worth. Some are even ajustable to a range of sizes and shapes, making them a viable option for a group purchase. I am speaking this all out of experience, I have worked for some time in the shoemaking industry. I have seen a number of situations around those...
When I did it professionally (made custom shoes for a decade) we used bivalve plaster bandage molds (molded in a separate lower and upper half with a raised alignment ridge on the seam) and a two part polyurethane foam. When I made a pair for myself a couple of decades later I bought a pair of commercial wooden lasts of the right size off ebay for about 15 bucks and modified them ( sand down what needs to go and use layers of veg tan leather and contact cement to add volume where required).
I am working on my third pair of handwelted shoes! Do you happen to remember anything about the kind of PU foam you used for casting? I have seen some foams in German orthopedic catalogs, like ASTI-OP and a house brand from Beil. But I've yet to find any US source for PU foam as hard as the foams the German finders recommend for full lasts. Right now I'm leaning toward trying the remeltable, reusable thermoplastic PU that my local ortho supply importer carries. Thanks so much for any info!
I haven't made lasts before, but I've been making shoes a while. I've used pre-made lasts (modified to match my feet), and one thing I'll bring up is that even the hinged kind are super hard to get out of the finished shoe (depending on the shoe type). I've seen where folks deliberately split wooden lasts so they can come out more easily, but not sure how the foam-based lasts will work (or at least remain intact for reuse) unless the shoe you make opens super wide.
Just a tip on the xps foam and spray glue. It may not be the glue itself, but the propellent used in the can. I had the same issue with spray paint on theatre props/set pieces...later, I didn't mind the melting (it would give a nice texture for this set piece), so I used it again but I found that if I held the can a few inches further away, the foam didn't melt. The propellent had time to dissapate, but still got good coverage. The trade-off though was that there was a little more overspray. It didn't matter in the workshop where I was, but it might where you are. Just take precautions and try it on sample/scrap pieces first.
Your clickbait title got me for sure! But this is also the video I needed. I have hard-to-fit feet and have long been thinking I just need to make my own shoes. I can't wait to see what you make with your lasts! (On an accessibility side note, if you're going to add additional information in text across the screen, please don't put it along the bottom. That's where the closed captioning goes and it's more than a little annoying to have to rewind, turn off captions to read the additional text, and then turn captions back on again each time.)
Okay, I can not even be mad about the minor panic of "No, wait, what happened, why????" on the 'clickbait', since this is actually something I am VERY interested in learning about.
I love the raven giving context, but it gets covered by subtitles. Idk what would be a good solution to this problem, but i just wanted to share that i had to turn the subtitles off to see what it was saying. Im not hard of hearing, but the subtitles help me process what is being said. To turn them off isn't a big deal for me, but i know there are others who rely on them more than i do.
between this tutorial and all the pretty things that Nichole Rudolph makes, I am tempted. So tempted. I can never find historical appropriate (or even approximate) shoes to go with garb.
Alright, I'll add another way to make your lasts. What I've done (because I'm a computer geek), is to start by taking a 3D-scan of my foot. Because I'm not made of money, I've got an old X-Box Kinect sensor that I use together with software called Skanect. A bit of post-processing of the resulting STL model, and I can load that into my CAD program (FreeCAD, in my case). From there I'm free to model up the last around the model of my foot, and I can play around with the toe box shape as much as I like, until I find curves that I find appealing. With that done, I duplicate and mirror the model, giving me a matched pair. These I can then load up in the slicer for my 3D printer, and a couple of days worth of printing later, I have a pair of perfectly matched lasts. Give them enough layers/infill across the bottom so they can be nailed into, they seem to work sufficiently well, and can when necessary be repaired with a 3D-doodler pen to give you many uses. I have also tried using a CNC router instead of a 3D printer, but that was such a pain I'm never doing that again 😅 Is this as easy as any of Clever's methods? Nope, but it does give me more options to play with the last shape at my leisure, and I don't have to stress about left/right differences. Word of caution - make sure the scaling is correct when you import your foot model (please don't ask how I know...)
Cool video. To refine the shape of the wooden last, I would recommend a spokeshave and a Shinto rasp for outside curves, and round and half round files for inside curves. I used to do this kind of shaping for work, just not on lasts. I’m interested in a follow up to see how the different methods perform.
I had finally gotten around to watching the VP debate and I clicked off faster than that meme of the car swerving off the freeway when I saw the title of the video. Damn you sir! Anyways, those others guys weren't going to do jack to improve my life so I guess I'm learning about making lasts.
Hey Skilltree, that's another cool new video from you, but the title scared me a little bit. Your videos are always very inspirational and educational for me. I don't miss a single one of your new videos. Nibiru (the water elf priestess from the Märkischer Bund, who played the Harpica for you at this year's Conquest.)
THANK YOU! 😭 as someone with very dimensional feet/legs... i struggle so hard to find shoes that fit so I'm going to make some of my own and this is much needed! Like... I'm a women's 6 in length but have to go up to 7.5-8 to fit my toes.. and they still dont fit right... then my heel is too narrow.. it's a huge struggle!
Also, I think I remember them saying the molds flare up in the front & back for 2 reasons… 1 to help you roll the shoe in the direction your walking (not flat footed like flip flops), and also it helps you get the molds in and out of the shoe your working on, etc…
People already mentioned Nicole Rudolph but Sally Pointer is also a good resource! She has a video on making primitive leather shoes along with other fund crafts!
If you're using a foam or cardboard last like that, you really want to seal the entire thing up. Just use the same filler to seal it up with a thinned layer and, possibly, a layer of filler primer just to seal it up even more. The main reason is to make sure that your last actually lasts...
The wooden version(woodworker here)you could rip the block in half then use the bandsaw. Ive explained to my son walking him around the shop each saw's "job" pertaining to these types of saws. Between coping, fret, jig, scroll, porta band, and upright band saws. Yeah though I definitely would have started with maybe 2x6's and cut it out in layers.
When it comes to the blue, yellow or pink solid foam, 99% of all spray, anything will melt these foams. And that 1% is GreatStuff expanding foam, (Minimal or Low Expansion) is best. And tooth picks are your friends to hold it together while curing. Loc-tite, not so much, as it tends to separate from the foam. Wood glue or Elmer's glue, will never cure even after a weeks time to dry. And some 2 part epoxys also work, but buy the smallest sizes before buying a larger quantity of the same mix that did NOT FAIL, and melt a hole through your projects. Always test before head first into projects, (or filming) and remember, Safety Third! That said, I also use sheetrock mud during my shaping, so that I can hand goop it on, hand smooth it around, let it dry, then 2-3ft away, mist the mud with spray paint, before sanding. This will show high and low areas that need more smoothing, with sandpaper, instead of a rasp or handsaw.
U genuinely scared me I pretty much just found u guys and I thought you guys were going to stop😢, I love u all and what you do. PLEASE never stop being you!
Just got to the spray foam bit. Just FYI, it likely isn't the glue itself but the propellant. Often, spray paints and spray glues use an aerosol, which causes the foam to melt if sprayed too close to the foam. A couple of things you could try, first, spray farther away. It gives the aerosol time to dissipate before reaching the object you're trying to glue/paint. If that isn't something you're interested in, you could also use a pump spray glue or protect the foam with Mod Podge, although if you go with the Mod Podge, you might as well use it as the glue itself
I love the last part of the video that is supposed to have project and it's not having any :P. Really loved the video. You got me scared for a second with that title. I can't wait to see you make shoes.
Any thoughts about using the Harbor Freight EVA Foam for the Last? I'm mildly concerned about getting it smooth enough, but the DAP sealer ought to work well enough.
I’ve been watching various maker videos including 3D printing and CNC content so obviously, my mind went to 3D scanning and printing a last. I’m curious how well that would work. I did see a guy try to 3D print flip flops. I guess he kinda made a digital last as part of his process but guesstimated a lot. More precise measurements of the geometry of his foot would probably have made his hiking experience less painful. As well was a decent amount of time to test out the prints and redesign them.
New here. A easy way to make a patern of your foot is to put on a sock and wrap it with duct tape. I would suggest putting a good insole inside the sock to allow for the pattern to fit. Use a sharpie to mark your lines and cut it apart. When you lay this on your leather add enough around the edges for your seams.
I use (when I say use, I mean I have him make my shoes...) "Skoboken", by Stefan Eriksson. Available in Swedish, but it's not hard to translate. You have that leather sewing machine, easy work for you!
I make shoes, not lasts - I usually purchase (and often modify) the lasts. Toe spring (how the toe lifts up a little in the front) has a few different purposes, including helping the wearer to not trip over the tips of their shoes. The rise in the back is for comfort (most people prefer a small heel, comfort-wise) or fashion. I'll be interested to see how your shoes end up fitting from these lasts!
I found that for me tacky glue is the best glue to use on xps foam over large areas uses and low temp hot glue for smaller areas uses but hot glue can leave voids if you don't have good compression.
your metrics are surprisingly good, actually. some of my favorite (smallish) youtubers have as little as 12% of their regular viewers being subscribed.
well i didnt make lasts for boots but i made alot of lasts for Prostheses and orthoses and this was mainly made outbof plaster and like you did the plaster one but we normally shape the plaster lasts and add plaster to make our the lasts wider
For anyone buying used wooden "lasts", be sure that's what they are. Thrift stores, yard sales, grandma's attic, etc., can still occasionally be a source for beautifully (often) finished, hinged, adjustable, pairs of last-looking things. These are NOT lasts, and should not be used as such. These are shoe stretchers or forms to keep a dress shoe's shape in storage. They are not made to match a foot's shape.
Instead of all the drama with plaster casts, you can use knee socks and duck tape. Have your subject put on knee socks, then wrap the feet in tape as far up as you want to go for your footwear of choice. Cut the taped sock off. (At this stage, having a pair of angled scissors like medical professionals use to remove dressings is tres helpful.) I think you can just fill the (re-taped together) socks with spray foam and have a nice mold that's accurate enough for shoe-making. I haven't ever tried it, though. I just know the first steps of the process from watching a renfaire merchant fitting a client for custom boots.
Regarding measuring feet, when our Payless had its going out of business sale I bought a Brannock Device. It was unfortunately one of the only worthwhile things left. All the fixtures had already sold and the shoes and socks weren't worth a damn. Maybe why they went out of business.
I get my boots and shoes at the ren faire and what they always do is put a sock on your bare foot and wrap it in duct tape. They make some marks to locate those same points you were measuring and then they cut it off from the back. You could then fill this with they foam you used, I've also seen them stuffed with newspaper. When you get the boots (it takes a few weeks to make them) you will often get the mold back cut up into pattern pieces.
Great video, love all the options! Genuine question, would there be any downfalls of making Madi's moulds/lasts while she was seated? When you get fitted for shoes and insoles you have to be standing as the foot spreads out under load and the leg to foot angles change, etc. Is that too precise for the types of footwear you intend to make? Either way I like all the options!
Oh dang; I just finished watching your video and you forgot an Important part! You can take most lasts appart, caus often the shoe you make is so tight to the last, that you couldn't pull it out. Therefore you need to disassemble (or deform, thats also a possible type) the last 9/10 times at the end of the shoe making. I'm afraid you showed how to make a disappointing tool that will bring more pain then pleasure :(((((
We mentioned it in the description! We were more experimenting with different methods and materials and didn't have time to go into detail with construction. Maybe in the future we can talk about the actual last types and different ways to make it so you can remove them.
@@SkillTree Thanks for the quick answer, but I wouldn't have looked down there if you wouldn't have told me. And this is very important for the basic turnshoe which most of us would use the last for first.... please don't take my comment the wrong way, it's still a very good last video XD. I just feel like you should have mentioned that aspect :) .... You maybe could add that to your pinned comment?
I haven't made a last perse, but I took a slipper boot covered in duct tape and stuffed with material and drew out a pattern over it and sewed my leather and fur together the best I could. It came out okay for my costume, but would not try wearing it for anything else
Did not expect to need a trigger warning for a material. When Cl3ver mentioned dental molds, it triggered my gag reflex. TBF, I knocked a tooth out when I was a kid, so I’ve spent a greater than average amount of time in a dentist’s chair…
Ok, so I won't have to go find a how-to channel for everything. You scared me, dude. Thank you for this one, I've been wanting to make a pair of boots for myself. But I didn't know how or where to get a pair of lasts that worked for me. I'm going to try the cardboard one first and smooth it out with bondo maybe.
For the foam, you could always add more material back by using hole filler. I know Adam from North of the Border does this with a number of his pieces.
Manufactured shoes don't fit my feet my toe box is way too wide even wide shoes are constructive the reason I started learning leatherworking is to make my own shoes I tried making a last by wrapping duck tape around a plastic bag i wrapped around my feet and pouring plaster into it but it didn't turn out great and I went ahead and just made some shoes without one it worked out ok but are still a bit uncomfortable think I'll try the plaster paper cast next time
it is interesting that different industries have different names for their molds. I worked in carbon fiber a few years ago. The molds we made parts on are called tools, but when we remove the part from the tool it is called demolding
Weird Episode Idea: how to make pawns (or standees?) for TTRPGs, in the Style you can get for Pathfinder. I'm currently trying to make some, looked up tips what to use, etc, and so far, I've had nothing but grief. And as far as I could find, there's not really a Tutorial for something like that yet.
Don’t forget when making the alginate or plaster molds, that you do it in the afternoon, as your feet can be a half to a full size larger by the end of the day, especially if you work on your feet.
Love it! I've always wanted to make boots but custom to my foot, I don't necessarily fit the standard 55 or Munson last, now I can make a custom last! Also please don't do that again....i legit just woke up and was terrified. I respect the hussle but damn guys
So good rule of thumb, don’t use an aerosol on foam just use wood glue, if I remember correctly it’s the chemicals that keep the paint/glue/whatever thin enough to spray that melts the foam.
Clever I'm gonna put you onto something that would make this go much faster. Buy a shinto saw rasp. They are much more aggressive than western style rasps and would've made that wood last much faster and easier to produce.
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Your mean... you scared the hell out of me. I will say though your brave for letting the internet see your feet there are a lot of concerning and disturbing people out there
@SkillTree loved the video! Very cool. Just wanted you to know that the Discord pictures didn't play.
Y'all missed the perfect opportunity to use this video as an April Fool's Video, just sayin'.
Oh come on guys, you can't just give me a heart attack like that!
No view for you this time! I'm not rewarding this behavior!!
@@mattgrey3132 I get the vibe rewards for bad behavior are encouraged
Click bait? …the “sole” reason I’m here…
Damn it same
And just to watch him make a mold WTF
it’s just about shoes guys, everyone can calm down now 😅
About to die to a pair of SHOES!!!!
No, it alluded to the channel finnishing, not about anything else. You may like insincerity in what the content is and how they portrayed it, it may even give you fuzzy feels, does that mean others should just accept it? A thumbnail is meant to be a clever creative way to, in one pic, capture what the content is about, this was far from it.
@@davidb_x_x1253 Well dang man, I was just trying to provide quick comfort to people who saw the title and thumbnail. I left the comment during the first few seconds and didn’t have time to watch the whole video, so sorry if my comment brought the wrong message ig
We all got clickbaited and I'm not even mad about it. Love this channel.
Ok this clickbate was ridiculously effective
Indeed😂
I'm a off and on follower, but that Cickbait totally grabbed me. Haha 😂
I'm glad you were just baiting. I love what you do, and find myself bac😂k watching in binge runs every time I return. I've been subscribed for a few years, I think 🤔
Keep up the great work. I'll see if I can afford to patreon soon.
Retired, old furtrade reenactor and Renaissance fair participater. 😮😊
I guess I need to proof my seldom sent comments better 😂😊
I mean I can't be Mad about this😂
Oh my word! The clickbate got me good 😂😢😂😢
At last, a video about lasts, that is unlike your last video, that wasn't about lasts at all. Here's to hoping this leson lasts....
For the last time, the last time we asked for we asked them to at last turn their attention to lasts, we were promised that at last a last video would be coming and that would be the last time we'd have to ask.
let's hope those lasts last for a while, or unlike last time we will have to ask for a lasting last video.
🤪
Bruh
for shoe enthusiasts, I also recommend Nicole Rudolph!! She works or used to work with American Duchess, which makes historical reproduction shoes using historical methods! She's a trained cobbler who does make her shoes (and lasts) by hand. :D
This was a great video and I like it a lot.
Nicole Rudolph saved me so much money by doing such a good job of explaining and demonstrating the process of shoemaking that I NOPED! away from that new hobby.
Morgan Donner has a video about making a more primitive shoe construction that doesn’t use lasts. I have that in my back pocket for when I’m out of projects. Maybe in 2199…
@@nightfall3605 YESSSSS TURNSHOES. Nicole's done some turnshoes too!! Morgan is AMAZING. like that whole damn circle is great if you want Attire Help. Abby Cox, Bernadette Banner, Morgan Donner, Nicole Rudolph, Rachel Maksy, and Karolina (I can't remember how to spell her last name). Can't recommend this lot enough!!!
I second the recommendation of Nicole Rudolph for all things shoemaking! She has such a vast store of knowledge, and she makes it all so accessible to the viewer.
And here is my last comment:
You could also buy cheap, old ones made out of wood online, which are larger then your actual foot and then carve them to the desired measurements :)
Shoe makers usually purchase lasts that are slightly smaller, and build up by adding layers of leather, rather than carving down.
I like the alginate mold. Inexpensive, easy, and reusable. Being able to recreate a new last on-demand when an old one breaks or is worn out is a bonus.
For any of the mold-making using a person's foot, you do want to make sure you take the mold while the person is standing. Foot shape changes (mostly wider and flatter) when you stand and if you don't account for that your shoes will end up too tight.
Having watched shoe-making videos before, I think the foam is an OK easy idea but not very usable for much but a turn shoe. The wooden last will work for any shoe design including modern shoes and boots, since you can easily stretch your material over the last and nail into place. You can use plasticizers with plaster to make a composite resin that could work too, but at that point you might just buy last-specific resin.
The only one of those materials that I believe would be useable to make more than a coupple of pairs is the wooden last. Cardborad and low density foam can be compressed and scraped while to handling, so the shape and size will vary; even the Mod Podge will not prevent it, it may help to delay the damage.
Also, do not use pins or staples directly on the last: use a ligth glue. There are glues specifically created for it, to prevent damaging the last; the pins will weaken the material, eventually ruining the shape.
You can use pins with the wooden last, because the wood can take some damage. But it will need a cobler's hammer, and it will eventually ruin it.
BTW, you can BUY the lasts pre-made to fit, in a variety of shapes in order to make different stiles of shoes, like high heels, flip-flops, knee-high boots, each one needs a different shape of last.
Sure, at $10 to $25 the pair it can be expensive for a single use, but if you want to make more than a couple of pairs it may be worth. Some are even ajustable to a range of sizes and shapes, making them a viable option for a group purchase.
I am speaking this all out of experience, I have worked for some time in the shoemaking industry. I have seen a number of situations around those...
When I did it professionally (made custom shoes for a decade) we used bivalve plaster bandage molds (molded in a separate lower and upper half with a raised alignment ridge on the seam) and a two part polyurethane foam. When I made a pair for myself a couple of decades later I bought a pair of commercial wooden lasts of the right size off ebay for about 15 bucks and modified them ( sand down what needs to go and use layers of veg tan leather and contact cement to add volume where required).
I am working on my third pair of handwelted shoes! Do you happen to remember anything about the kind of PU foam you used for casting? I have seen some foams in German orthopedic catalogs, like ASTI-OP and a house brand from Beil. But I've yet to find any US source for PU foam as hard as the foams the German finders recommend for full lasts. Right now I'm leaning toward trying the remeltable, reusable thermoplastic PU that my local ortho supply importer carries. Thanks so much for any info!
I haven't made lasts before, but I've been making shoes a while. I've used pre-made lasts (modified to match my feet), and one thing I'll bring up is that even the hinged kind are super hard to get out of the finished shoe (depending on the shoe type). I've seen where folks deliberately split wooden lasts so they can come out more easily, but not sure how the foam-based lasts will work (or at least remain intact for reuse) unless the shoe you make opens super wide.
I was laughing before hitting the link, wondering what sort of Kitf**kery was *ahem* afoot...
What a relief and terrible way to learn about lasts.
Just a tip on the xps foam and spray glue. It may not be the glue itself, but the propellent used in the can. I had the same issue with spray paint on theatre props/set pieces...later, I didn't mind the melting (it would give a nice texture for this set piece), so I used it again but I found that if I held the can a few inches further away, the foam didn't melt. The propellent had time to dissapate, but still got good coverage. The trade-off though was that there was a little more overspray. It didn't matter in the workshop where I was, but it might where you are. Just take precautions and try it on sample/scrap pieces first.
The title is pure evil
Your clickbait title got me for sure! But this is also the video I needed. I have hard-to-fit feet and have long been thinking I just need to make my own shoes. I can't wait to see what you make with your lasts! (On an accessibility side note, if you're going to add additional information in text across the screen, please don't put it along the bottom. That's where the closed captioning goes and it's more than a little annoying to have to rewind, turn off captions to read the additional text, and then turn captions back on again each time.)
All great ideas for the project. Now i have a better understanding of what and how to do this.
Okay, I can not even be mad about the minor panic of "No, wait, what happened, why????" on the 'clickbait', since this is actually something I am VERY interested in learning about.
I love the raven giving context, but it gets covered by subtitles. Idk what would be a good solution to this problem, but i just wanted to share that i had to turn the subtitles off to see what it was saying. Im not hard of hearing, but the subtitles help me process what is being said. To turn them off isn't a big deal for me, but i know there are others who rely on them more than i do.
How dare you give me a heart attack!
With this title would have been an awesome April fools prank.
A missed opportunity, for sure.
yeah but everyone expects it on april fools
Clever please don't give me a heart attack again XD
Seconded
Bro, ain't gonna lie. You got me on that. I thought this was the "we quitting UA-cam" type vid. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
between this tutorial and all the pretty things that Nichole Rudolph makes, I am tempted. So tempted. I can never find historical appropriate (or even approximate) shoes to go with garb.
What sort of shoes are you after? Because HOO BOY DO I KNOW PLACES.
Clever my dude, you did us dirty with that title.
I like the transition from "They're all going to pay the ultimate price" to sitting down and doing a bit of cobbling.
cobbling is the repair of shoes. Cordwaining is the making of shoes.
@@Robertscraftstudio huh. I did not know that! Thanks!
I hate clickbaits! 😡
But I love you! ❤
Alright, I'll add another way to make your lasts. What I've done (because I'm a computer geek), is to start by taking a 3D-scan of my foot. Because I'm not made of money, I've got an old X-Box Kinect sensor that I use together with software called Skanect. A bit of post-processing of the resulting STL model, and I can load that into my CAD program (FreeCAD, in my case). From there I'm free to model up the last around the model of my foot, and I can play around with the toe box shape as much as I like, until I find curves that I find appealing. With that done, I duplicate and mirror the model, giving me a matched pair. These I can then load up in the slicer for my 3D printer, and a couple of days worth of printing later, I have a pair of perfectly matched lasts. Give them enough layers/infill across the bottom so they can be nailed into, they seem to work sufficiently well, and can when necessary be repaired with a 3D-doodler pen to give you many uses.
I have also tried using a CNC router instead of a 3D printer, but that was such a pain I'm never doing that again 😅
Is this as easy as any of Clever's methods? Nope, but it does give me more options to play with the last shape at my leisure, and I don't have to stress about left/right differences. Word of caution - make sure the scaling is correct when you import your foot model (please don't ask how I know...)
Cool video. To refine the shape of the wooden last, I would recommend a spokeshave and a Shinto rasp for outside curves, and round and half round files for inside curves. I used to do this kind of shaping for work, just not on lasts. I’m interested in a follow up to see how the different methods perform.
I had finally gotten around to watching the VP debate and I clicked off faster than that meme of the car swerving off the freeway when I saw the title of the video. Damn you sir! Anyways, those others guys weren't going to do jack to improve my life so I guess I'm learning about making lasts.
Love the pun, hate the scare you gave me
Hey Skilltree, that's another cool new video from you, but the title scared me a little bit. Your videos are always very inspirational and educational for me. I don't miss a single one of your new videos.
Nibiru (the water elf priestess from the Märkischer Bund, who played the Harpica for you at this year's Conquest.)
THANK YOU! 😭 as someone with very dimensional feet/legs... i struggle so hard to find shoes that fit so I'm going to make some of my own and this is much needed! Like... I'm a women's 6 in length but have to go up to 7.5-8 to fit my toes.. and they still dont fit right... then my heel is too narrow.. it's a huge struggle!
I would love to hit that subscribe button, unfortunately I did that a couple of years ago, so... can't do!😁
I have that problem too, every time I hit it again I get unsubscribed!!
I mean... I guess it's not really clickbait 😅
Also, I think I remember them saying the molds flare up in the front & back for 2 reasons… 1 to help you roll the shoe in the direction your walking (not flat footed like flip flops), and also it helps you get the molds in and out of the shoe your working on, etc…
omg dont scare me like that 😢
People already mentioned Nicole Rudolph but Sally Pointer is also a good resource! She has a video on making primitive leather shoes along with other fund crafts!
If you're using a foam or cardboard last like that, you really want to seal the entire thing up. Just use the same filler to seal it up with a thinned layer and, possibly, a layer of filler primer just to seal it up even more. The main reason is to make sure that your last actually lasts...
The wooden version(woodworker here)you could rip the block in half then use the bandsaw. Ive explained to my son walking him around the shop each saw's "job" pertaining to these types of saws. Between coping, fret, jig, scroll, porta band, and upright band saws. Yeah though I definitely would have started with maybe 2x6's and cut it out in layers.
Bro!! My heart can't take this!
0:23 GFD I should've known the title and title card were a troll.
Right, where are you guys so i can come give you a good clip around the ear 👂...
I was about to cry
When it comes to the blue, yellow or pink solid foam, 99% of all spray, anything will melt these foams. And that 1% is GreatStuff expanding foam, (Minimal or Low Expansion) is best. And tooth picks are your friends to hold it together while curing.
Loc-tite, not so much, as it tends to separate from the foam.
Wood glue or Elmer's glue, will never cure even after a weeks time to dry.
And some 2 part epoxys also work, but buy the smallest sizes before buying a larger quantity of the same mix that did NOT FAIL, and melt a hole through your projects.
Always test before head first into projects, (or filming) and remember, Safety Third!
That said, I also use sheetrock mud during my shaping, so that I can hand goop it on, hand smooth it around, let it dry, then 2-3ft away, mist the mud with spray paint, before sanding. This will show high and low areas that need more smoothing, with sandpaper, instead of a rasp or handsaw.
We all know that isnt Maddie, because that person was sitting in a chair.
APPARENTLY, I only get a chair when its ontop of the table. His rules are weird. And his ceiling isn't that high...
U genuinely scared me I pretty much just found u guys and I thought you guys were going to stop😢, I love u all and what you do. PLEASE never stop being you!
Just got to the spray foam bit. Just FYI, it likely isn't the glue itself but the propellant. Often, spray paints and spray glues use an aerosol, which causes the foam to melt if sprayed too close to the foam. A couple of things you could try, first, spray farther away. It gives the aerosol time to dissipate before reaching the object you're trying to glue/paint.
If that isn't something you're interested in, you could also use a pump spray glue or protect the foam with Mod Podge, although if you go with the Mod Podge, you might as well use it as the glue itself
I love the last part of the video that is supposed to have project and it's not having any :P. Really loved the video. You got me scared for a second with that title. I can't wait to see you make shoes.
I am absolutely obsessed with everything that you make. Hopefully someday I will be able to start making things of my own, you're very inspiring!!
Any thoughts about using the Harbor Freight EVA Foam for the Last? I'm mildly concerned about getting it smooth enough, but the DAP sealer ought to work well enough.
Man, even just the Modge Podge does a great job of sealing everything super smooth.
I’ve been watching various maker videos including 3D printing and CNC content so obviously, my mind went to 3D scanning and printing a last. I’m curious how well that would work.
I did see a guy try to 3D print flip flops. I guess he kinda made a digital last as part of his process but guesstimated a lot. More precise measurements of the geometry of his foot would probably have made his hiking experience less painful. As well was a decent amount of time to test out the prints and redesign them.
I just got trolled so hard and I’m okay with it…
Thank you for sharing.
New here. A easy way to make a patern of your foot is to put on a sock and wrap it with duct tape. I would suggest putting a good insole inside the sock to allow for the pattern to fit.
Use a sharpie to mark your lines and cut it apart. When you lay this on your leather add enough around the edges for your seams.
I use (when I say use, I mean I have him make my shoes...) "Skoboken", by Stefan Eriksson. Available in Swedish, but it's not hard to translate. You have that leather sewing machine, easy work for you!
I make shoes, not lasts - I usually purchase (and often modify) the lasts. Toe spring (how the toe lifts up a little in the front) has a few different purposes, including helping the wearer to not trip over the tips of their shoes. The rise in the back is for comfort (most people prefer a small heel, comfort-wise) or fashion. I'll be interested to see how your shoes end up fitting from these lasts!
I can't wait to see you make boots now!
Fuck, the amount of sheer PANIC I had... 😱😭
I found that for me tacky glue is the best glue to use on xps foam over large areas uses and low temp hot glue for smaller areas uses but hot glue can leave voids if you don't have good compression.
your metrics are surprisingly good, actually. some of my favorite (smallish) youtubers have as little as 12% of their regular viewers being subscribed.
well i didnt make lasts for boots but i made alot of lasts for Prostheses and orthoses and this was mainly made outbof plaster and like you did the plaster one but we normally shape the plaster lasts and add plaster to make our the lasts wider
For anyone buying used wooden "lasts", be sure that's what they are.
Thrift stores, yard sales, grandma's attic, etc., can still occasionally be a source for beautifully (often) finished, hinged, adjustable, pairs of last-looking things.
These are NOT lasts, and should not be used as such.
These are shoe stretchers or forms to keep a dress shoe's shape in storage. They are not made to match a foot's shape.
Instead of all the drama with plaster casts, you can use knee socks and duck tape. Have your subject put on knee socks, then wrap the feet in tape as far up as you want to go for your footwear of choice. Cut the taped sock off. (At this stage, having a pair of angled scissors like medical professionals use to remove dressings is tres helpful.)
I think you can just fill the (re-taped together) socks with spray foam and have a nice mold that's accurate enough for shoe-making. I haven't ever tried it, though. I just know the first steps of the process from watching a renfaire merchant fitting a client for custom boots.
Regarding measuring feet, when our Payless had its going out of business sale I bought a Brannock Device. It was unfortunately one of the only worthwhile things left. All the fixtures had already sold and the shoes and socks weren't worth a damn. Maybe why they went out of business.
I get my boots and shoes at the ren faire and what they always do is put a sock on your bare foot and wrap it in duct tape. They make some marks to locate those same points you were measuring and then they cut it off from the back. You could then fill this with they foam you used, I've also seen them stuffed with newspaper. When you get the boots (it takes a few weeks to make them) you will often get the mold back cut up into pattern pieces.
ok i dropped what i was doing to watch a video about shoes, great title!😂
As you SHOULD, it is a noble art
You hella Frightened me haha ! I thought this was the end!
Hallo @senko8534 👋😊
@@charlotte6309 heyyy ! :D
Great video, love all the options! Genuine question, would there be any downfalls of making Madi's moulds/lasts while she was seated? When you get fitted for shoes and insoles you have to be standing as the foot spreads out under load and the leg to foot angles change, etc. Is that too precise for the types of footwear you intend to make? Either way I like all the options!
You could also add thin craft foam to expand it out if you went too far.
Great call!
Oh dang; I just finished watching your video and you forgot an Important part!
You can take most lasts appart, caus often the shoe you make is so tight to the last, that you couldn't pull it out. Therefore you need to disassemble (or deform, thats also a possible type) the last 9/10 times at the end of the shoe making. I'm afraid you showed how to make a disappointing tool that will bring more pain then pleasure :(((((
We mentioned it in the description! We were more experimenting with different methods and materials and didn't have time to go into detail with construction. Maybe in the future we can talk about the actual last types and different ways to make it so you can remove them.
You make the upper around the last, then take the last out before attaching the sole.
@@darrinrebagliati5365 not on most authentic medieval shoes...
@@SkillTree Thanks for the quick answer, but I wouldn't have looked down there if you wouldn't have told me. And this is very important for the basic turnshoe which most of us would use the last for first.... please don't take my comment the wrong way, it's still a very good last video XD. I just feel like you should have mentioned that aspect :) .... You maybe could add that to your pinned comment?
@@TheShieldery well, now we know better. I usually make my moccasins around my feet.
Appreciate the crow's explanation for those added details
How dare you do that to me!! Also thanks I wanna make my own shoes 😂
You had me worried there for a minute
can you make fantasy knight helmets
I haven't made a last perse, but I took a slipper boot covered in duct tape and stuffed with material and drew out a pattern over it and sewed my leather and fur together the best I could. It came out okay for my costume, but would not try wearing it for anything else
Did not expect to need a trigger warning for a material. When Cl3ver mentioned dental molds, it triggered my gag reflex.
TBF, I knocked a tooth out when I was a kid, so I’ve spent a greater than average amount of time in a dentist’s chair…
Ok, so I won't have to go find a how-to channel for everything. You scared me, dude. Thank you for this one, I've been wanting to make a pair of boots for myself. But I didn't know how or where to get a pair of lasts that worked for me. I'm going to try the cardboard one first and smooth it out with bondo maybe.
To avoid bunions, spread your toes when taking measures/making casts.
So question. The plaster option could you do that to make a bust? I dabble in leather armor and that would be helpful . What do you think
If you deal with any swelling in your feet, measure when they are the most swollen on average during the day. Most people that is in the evening.
No i am not falling for that clickbait....
2 seconds later after scrolling not even 2 video suggestions further
I need to know " clicks video"
For the foam, you could always add more material back by using hole filler. I know Adam from North of the Border does this with a number of his pieces.
Manufactured shoes don't fit my feet my toe box is way too wide even wide shoes are constructive the reason I started learning leatherworking is to make my own shoes I tried making a last by wrapping duck tape around a plastic bag i wrapped around my feet and pouring plaster into it but it didn't turn out great and I went ahead and just made some shoes without one it worked out ok but are still a bit uncomfortable think I'll try the plaster paper cast next time
A last that can be used for either foot is also good. As long as the toe box is wide and tall.
How many people got the joke before you clicked "play"?
None. LMAO 🤣
it is interesting that different industries have different names for their molds. I worked in carbon fiber a few years ago. The molds we made parts on are called tools, but when we remove the part from the tool it is called demolding
Weird Episode Idea: how to make pawns (or standees?) for TTRPGs, in the Style you can get for Pathfinder.
I'm currently trying to make some, looked up tips what to use, etc, and so far, I've had nothing but grief. And as far as I could find, there's not really a Tutorial for something like that yet.
Don’t forget when making the alginate or plaster molds, that you do it in the afternoon, as your feet can be a half to a full size larger by the end of the day, especially if you work on your feet.
What the heck man?!! You gave me a mini heart attack!!!
Nice pfp
@@wasikancb thank you
Love it! I've always wanted to make boots but custom to my foot, I don't necessarily fit the standard 55 or Munson last, now I can make a custom last!
Also please don't do that again....i legit just woke up and was terrified. I respect the hussle but damn guys
So disappointed, then so excited. You guys are dorks and I love it.
I'm definitely trying the cardboard method
PAH! You got me you cheeky bastard you!! 🤣
So good rule of thumb, don’t use an aerosol on foam just use wood glue, if I remember correctly it’s the chemicals that keep the paint/glue/whatever thin enough to spray that melts the foam.
Clever I'm gonna put you onto something that would make this go much faster. Buy a shinto saw rasp. They are much more aggressive than western style rasps and would've made that wood last much faster and easier to produce.
Just so you guys understand I genuinely almost started crying This
Has actually became probably one of my favorite UA-cam channels.
i look forward to it every week and i rarely do the projects
wait!!! was Maddi in a CHAIR????
I saw her sitting on a table!
If you use super 77 and spray lightly on foam it won't melt. I do that at work.
I knew that it was going to be titled that and it STILL GOT ME.
I have been wanting a last making tutorial so I can make shoes someday, and this is absolutely everything I was hoping for!