Beautiful alfalfa! I love my 20 ft Vermeer and you sure can get a lot on the ground. My production has almost doubled and with the techno bale 980 we can get it to the wrapper a lot faster too.
Ryan G where you from? I’m in Iowa and can have high humidity we have 2 mowers with conditioning rolls.. where just trying to find out if it would work on our alfalfa. We make dry hay
Clinton Reichert I’m in Manitoba last year was my first year with the 1410. I’ll put up about 1200 acres a year. What I’ve learned is to leave the alfalfa lay an extra day. So I’ll go mow couple hundred acres day one that has more legumes than the second day I’ll go mow a couple hundred acres of the fields that have higher grass almost zero alfalfa in it. Than I’ll rake it all on day three my V rake is 45 feet so I can get it all covered than it’s just a full on sprint to get it all up I start with the stuff cut on the first day which allows that grass hay to finish drying down but I haven’t found trouble getting it to cure good. It’s surprising once you’ve raked it how much it’ll finish drying down
I love mine, I’m surprised there aren’t more of these designs. The overall simplicity for the size is quite appealing. I will say they could have easily saved their money getting newer fuel efficient tractors vs those old deeres. I got my Kubotas before emissions came into play and they burn half of what my old 40s series use to do.
Allowing a reasonable amount of time for turning around on the corners/headlands, a 9 footer mows roughly 1 acre/hour/mph. To cut 15 acres per hour therefore requires you to run roughly 15 mph. That isn't reasonable in most applications. Half that speed and throughput is perfectly normal. Either you have a huge tractor or thin hay or both, and your fields have to be big and flat to average that. I know some people do it -- I've seen it done, and we have places we can run 12-13mph -- but that isn't the norm by any means.
@@captaindee6130 I have a 85 hp tractor and a 9 ft New Idea disc bine. Yes.....its about trapping golfers and preparing a smooth field in the first place " at seeding " time. One quarter mile long fields and move at 15 miles per hour. I could do 20 miles per hour on longer fields but its all about the turns..... slowing down. True the fields are flat......but can still do 12 mph in hill fields too.
i had a 15 ft and could cut 20 acres and hour.....did 180 acres in 9 hrs. including travel time between fields....with 230 hp on it 18 mph was about the limit for speed before working the tractor too hard
No conditioner... You must have lighter crops like they do in the Midwest.... In 4 to 5 ton grass, it's hard to dry it down without a conditioner. Rolls are ok... But the flail conditioner will gain a full day of dry time.. sadly, the last time we had to replace our mower.... The only new mowers in this part of the country had rolls.. been disliking it ever since 😥
I've heard many conflicting opinions on flails and drying time. If you're swathing wide like it should be done, flails aren't really beneficial unless the crop has thick stems like first cutting grass, but for later cuttings, the thin stems and fine leaves may be unaffected by flails, no matter how aggressive you run them.
Not impressed. With a 29ft wide butterfly mower a first timer in the specific mashine can move 12 hectares/hour (8.7meters wide and around 28 acres/hour)
Well *obviously* a bigger machine running similar ground speeds will cut more per hour, but that misses the point entirely: you have to have that front hitch and PTO for a mounted triple/butterfly, and the overwhelming majority of the tractors ever sold in North America (and more importantly, the vast majority of the machines running right now) don't have either the hitch or PTO. A wide multi-deck trailed mower like these Vermeers allows people to upsize mowers for existing tractors. Anyone with a row-crop tractor can pull one of these mowers, and at any given speed with the TM1410, you're cutting about 2/3 what 30' mounted triple will do per hour. Conditioners that significantly reduce swath width compared to cutting width usually impede drydown about as much as they help, especially if they clump the windrow. These may not be the perfect machine for every application, but hey, nothing is.
Captain Dee The HP requirements on that mower is pretty good they claim 90 hp is all that’s needed I’d say that’s right Sure don’t burn much fuel in a day with that mower
Thank you jason for these wheat harvest videos .
That's awesome to hear your efficiency has gone up quite a lot with the addition of the 20ft.
Looks like you’re getting it ready for the county fair stock pull
if only they made a pull type conditioner that big or bigger
Beautiful alfalfa! I love my 20 ft Vermeer and you sure can get a lot on the ground. My production has almost doubled and with the techno bale 980 we can get it to the wrapper a lot faster too.
Ryan G where you from? I’m in Iowa and can have high humidity we have 2 mowers with conditioning rolls.. where just trying to find out if it would work on our alfalfa. We make dry hay
Clinton Reichert
I’m in Manitoba last year was my first year with the 1410. I’ll put up about 1200 acres a year. What I’ve learned is to leave the alfalfa lay an extra day. So I’ll go mow couple hundred acres day one that has more legumes than the second day I’ll go mow a couple hundred acres of the fields that have higher grass almost zero alfalfa in it. Than I’ll rake it all on day three my V rake is 45 feet so I can get it all covered than it’s just a full on sprint to get it all up I start with the stuff cut on the first day which allows that grass hay to finish drying down but I haven’t found trouble getting it to cure good. It’s surprising once you’ve raked it how much it’ll finish drying down
There is allways a differnce from an old to a new/wider mower :-)
I love mine, I’m surprised there aren’t more of these designs. The overall simplicity for the size is quite appealing. I will say they could have easily saved their money getting newer fuel efficient tractors vs those old deeres. I got my Kubotas before emissions came into play and they burn half of what my old 40s series use to do.
Did you have any issues getting the blade pitch correct? Too much lean back or lean forward I could see impacting performance.
Is there any update on this more
Hello.....I own a 9 ft mower and cut over 15 acres per hour.......why so slow ?
Allowing a reasonable amount of time for turning around on the corners/headlands, a 9 footer mows roughly 1 acre/hour/mph. To cut 15 acres per hour therefore requires you to run roughly 15 mph. That isn't reasonable in most applications. Half that speed and throughput is perfectly normal. Either you have a huge tractor or thin hay or both, and your fields have to be big and flat to average that. I know some people do it -- I've seen it done, and we have places we can run 12-13mph -- but that isn't the norm by any means.
@@captaindee6130 I have a 85 hp tractor and a 9 ft New Idea disc bine. Yes.....its about trapping golfers and preparing a smooth field in the first place " at seeding " time. One quarter mile long fields and move at 15 miles per hour. I could do 20 miles per hour on longer fields but its all about the turns..... slowing down. True the fields are flat......but can still do 12 mph in hill fields too.
I have a tm1210 which is 18 foot and I can mow 160-180 acres in 8 hours
@@masonbaumhoer1814 An 18 ft haybine and only 11 acers per hour......comparing the size and hours it takes you ?
i had a 15 ft and could cut 20 acres and hour.....did 180 acres in 9 hrs. including travel time between fields....with 230 hp on it 18 mph was about the limit for speed before working the tractor too hard
No conditioner...
You must have lighter crops like they do in the Midwest....
In 4 to 5 ton grass, it's hard to dry it down without a conditioner.
Rolls are ok... But the flail conditioner will gain a full day of dry time.. sadly, the last time we had to replace our mower.... The only new mowers in this part of the country had rolls.. been disliking it ever since 😥
I've heard many conflicting opinions on flails and drying time. If you're swathing wide like it should be done, flails aren't really beneficial unless the crop has thick stems like first cutting grass, but for later cuttings, the thin stems and fine leaves may be unaffected by flails, no matter how aggressive you run them.
@@captaindee6130 having a mostly alfalfa mix probably makes the difference
No real need for a conditioner when your chopping it. I can see if you where baling dry hay.
@@raptor660jarhead most dairies here want it conditioned, more uniform drying for chopping
Pretty nice outfit guys.
Why ? Because they payed you to do a commercial for them ?
rouy amam salty
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Blow it out your sceptical Axx, rouy. these are just good old boys saying it like they see it.
Not impressed. With a 29ft wide butterfly mower a first timer in the specific mashine can move 12 hectares/hour (8.7meters wide and around 28 acres/hour)
Well *obviously* a bigger machine running similar ground speeds will cut more per hour, but that misses the point entirely: you have to have that front hitch and PTO for a mounted triple/butterfly, and the overwhelming majority of the tractors ever sold in North America (and more importantly, the vast majority of the machines running right now) don't have either the hitch or PTO. A wide multi-deck trailed mower like these Vermeers allows people to upsize mowers for existing tractors. Anyone with a row-crop tractor can pull one of these mowers, and at any given speed with the TM1410, you're cutting about 2/3 what 30' mounted triple will do per hour. Conditioners that significantly reduce swath width compared to cutting width usually impede drydown about as much as they help, especially if they clump the windrow. These may not be the perfect machine for every application, but hey, nothing is.
Captain Dee
The HP requirements on that mower is pretty good they claim 90 hp is all that’s needed I’d say that’s right Sure don’t burn much fuel in a day with that mower
Triple mowers sure don't run on 90hp!
shit is broken , why because cow farmers don't take car of shit. just spread it. they will destroy this cuter just like every other thing they own.