Danny telling me to not open my surging sparks BB is like my family telling me to not get back with my ex.. I know you’re right but… come on, look at her.
Booster boxes should have a guarantee of 1 SIR. No super modern card should even be close to $700. That’s a huge problem. And if you disagree, go open up a Paldea evolved BB and tell me how much fun you have. I would rather pull a $20 SIR every BB than chase a $700 pikachu that seems almost impossible to pull. The card has been out for 2 weeks and legit already feels forever unobtainable, no average collector is paying $200+ for a single card
I'm one of those collector that would pay $200+ for a card in every set and spend way too much opening packs, but I agree with what you're saying. Unfortunately, most people in this community have different opinions. People love that chase, the hype, and they love to gamble. Gosh, Crown Zenith and Paldea Evolved was so fun to open.
Yeah it's almost like pokemon is feeding into the hype now and turning it more from a collection hobby into a competition to find a chase card. It makes me not even wanna open product because of how low the hit rates are tbh
Opened a stellar crown booster box watching this... got the squirtle IR and then the Terapagos SIR on the very last pack. The increased luck for being subscribed to Danny is actually doubled while watching the video
I pulled the Latias from my booster box! I listed it on TCG for $224 today. It's still rising in value! I have one more booster box to open. I am doing ok so far. I feel like the quality control on this set is absolutely terrible. There are so many off centered and color issues. Not to mention the wide variations in pull rates. I totally agree with you that unless you have spare money to throw around, DON'T OPEN SURGING SPARKS!!!
Ya, man. The whole booster boxes being at/above MSRP BEFORE release is nuts. We are definitely in uncharted territory right now. I may be wrong but I don't think buying them at their current prices is a good idea.
The whole point of opening booster boxes is because it's usually the cheapest cost per pack, but in the case where it isn't it really doesn't make sense to open them for me, I'd rather mix things up with random products to have a chance at beating the averages if it's the same cost per pack or even cheaper.
Yeah. Typically I’m not a numbers guy because it can be inconsistent but that’s so incredibly bad that you’ve actually convinced me. I want the Hydreigon SIR really badly, but at this rate I’m just gonna maybe buy 1-2 build and battle boxes for the promos and call it a day for this set then maybe buy the Hydreigon.
I miss when collecting was for the fun of it, rather than chasing the most expensive things and "investing" in sealed products. I have fun opening shiny cardboard with and for my community and making memories as favourites are pulled
This explains why my box was the way it was. I love these presentations because it gives you a realistic expectation. Pokémon and tcgplayer should pay you for this! I know you showed the pull rates but this just makes it feel that IR and SIR pull rates are worse.
That’s crazy. I opened one case and got a Pikachu SIR, Latias SIR, Hydreigon SIR, Clemont’s Quick Wit SIR, Skarmory IR, and Counter Gain Hyper Rare, for my best pulls. Thought about getting another case but I guess you just have to know when you’ve been lucky because it would be more likely a second case would give me some rather crap pulls. Thanks for the info!
I bought 2 etb's which I plan to keep sealed for a long time. But the more I watch people open packs the more I want to know what's inside those boxes. I'm almost at my limit lol
That's what I just experienced tonight, except I did get two Ace Specs...unfortunately I already had both of them. But yeah, only pulling two bulk IRs and two bulk full arts from a booster box feels so brutal.
I have one more SS box on the way. You've convinced me to just hold it or sell it on immediately. Maybe I'll sell the packs separately for the current local going price.
Won't the prices go up at some point? I'm new to collecting and pulled the Pikachu Hyper Rare, the gold one. If it's only going to go down in value I'm wondering if I should just sell it to keep rippin OR get it graded. It looks like it might grade at a 9. It looks really good.
This vid convinced me. I'm keeping my PC ETBs sealed and just buying a complete C/UC/HR set on eBay for under US$100 and then working slowly through singles to get my master set. Way cheaper. I can get a close to master set for the price of ONE booster box.
How the heck would he know. Your guess is as good as his. This is the last set release before Xmas so I would guess there will be lots more of it coming. That would be my guess.
For SIRs still need Latias, Jasmine’s Gaze, Durant, and Alolan Exeggutor, along with Feebas IR and three of the four Pikachus. Got the SIR before the regular ex even!
I was so excited for this set but the prices, pull rates and how many packs it took for you to master set has completely made me rethink. I know the same will be true for the Eevee set coming up but I’d rather save my pennies for that. Thanks for another insightful stat filled video.
The Archuladons lead me to believe there is a major batching issue or that the conspiracy of same rarity cards being printed in different amounts may be true.
what about the japanese booster box versions? I hear those have guarantees and they are cheaper. I know there's less packs and less cards but with guarantees it may be a good tradeoff
True only for US market Danny. In EU Latias SAR is 250€ and Pikachu SAR is 450€ Skarmory is about 45€ Our boosters boxes are way more expansive as well. Its like 190€
So yes and no about making money on booster boxes, you could get lucky with PSA grades too. I get for raw value it is very rare but if you get lucky with a couple PSA 10s you could make money as well! But yeah with booster boxes it would be smart to just leave them sealed.
Not sure if you covered this but would it be better to save several boxes and let it marinate and sell later for profit? I know some packs and booster boxes sell for higher rates years later for rare finds like Pikachu and Latias. Do you think the value will decrease over time for those high value cards or will the print more packs with better pull rates? Just wondering because I haven't been in the game since Base and Jungle :)
The pull rates on this set are nuts. Odds of pulling ANY SIR are 1/87. Odds of specific SIR are 1/960. I think I’m gonna take a step back from this set 😂
I get my value from boxes in commons and revereses. Because trying to do those individually in NM condition would be dumb of me to do on like TCG player.
I wish Pokémon went back to early S&V pull rates. I liked it when it was less if a gamble. Bring back something like Paldea Evolved. If booster boxes normalize at $160 with these pull rates, I'd stop buying and opening packs. I would rather pull a $20 SIR in every booster box than have this hard pull rate with some over hype card. With the overhyping going on, it's gonna be like this for the next couple of sets.
Looks like People Selling Pokemon wanted a "Dragon master Magia"(1k card) for Pokemon and they "made" one. That Pikachu cards is pretty MILD not even worth $100 in my opinion.
Thanks! Very helpful. Still hoping I can get a Pokémon center Etb to keep sealed :( pulled the Flapple last night; know it's not worth much but one I wanted so made my day
Better off opening smaller boxes n keeping the bb sealed Ive had so much luck with my 6 year old daughter opening etbs and 3 pack blisters yeah we pulled the sir Pikachu from 1 ETb ;) and the sir latias from 2 3 pack blisters this set is amazing!!!!!
Was able to pull that Latias from a booster box, but that Pikachu is gonna be a pain to find. If I don’t pull from this next box, gonna have to wait on that one to come down a bit.
This set is really hard to worry about when Prismatic is right around the corner...and then both a trainer-themed set AND a new Rocket Set down the road. My wallet needs CPR.
i just got a bb but i haven’t opened it yet, i saw the prices and then rethought about what i was doing… i have an etb coming so i might just wait on the bb
Instructions unclear went ahead and opened my sealed products
😂
Lmao
Lol
C'mon!!!
I opened 2 cases got 6 SIR no latias or pikachu though
Danny telling me to not open my surging sparks BB is like my family telling me to not get back with my ex.. I know you’re right but… come on, look at her.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Why is justin bieber telling me not to chase the bootychu >:(
Because Baaaaaybay, Baaaaaybay, oooooooooohhhhhh
@@DannyPhantump "Translate to English".
Nice one, UA-cam.
lol wow😂😂
This is my favorite comment
Hey calm down with the name calling. This is not CTR's channel😂.
Value of cards: $48.00
The fun of Opening Packs: Priceless
Some things you just can't buy. For everything else there debilitating credit card debt 😅.
debating buying the booster box on my credit card, this comment just convinced me. The credit card debt is worth the fun
151 brought me back to the hobby, but I think it also brought in some of the worst predatory type people as well.
151 had really fair pull rates with 32 packs for 1 SIR. I myself bought around 100 booster and got 4 SIRs and one Hyper.
Why predatory
@@Navue-cn2tx nonstop scalping, hard to find product in the wild now
@@Navue-cn2tx because the whole Pokemon TC community is full of unlikeable manchildren.
@@Navue-cn2txscalpers.
Don’t forget to minus 15-20% off these values if you wanna sell the cards too 😂 these rates are brutal
DannyP: "pokemon is starting to feel more and more like gambling"
🔫👨🚀 : "always has been"
Booster boxes should have a guarantee of 1 SIR. No super modern card should even be close to $700. That’s a huge problem. And if you disagree, go open up a Paldea evolved BB and tell me how much fun you have. I would rather pull a $20 SIR every BB than chase a $700 pikachu that seems almost impossible to pull. The card has been out for 2 weeks and legit already feels forever unobtainable, no average collector is paying $200+ for a single card
I'm one of those collector that would pay $200+ for a card in every set and spend way too much opening packs, but I agree with what you're saying. Unfortunately, most people in this community have different opinions. People love that chase, the hype, and they love to gamble. Gosh, Crown Zenith and Paldea Evolved was so fun to open.
There is a reason everyone buys into the lottery when the prize get really high.. and it’s not that the odds got better 😉
You're referring to japanese booster boxes. Smaller sets but much more fun to pull and always a guaranteed Sr or better.
Yeah it's almost like pokemon is feeding into the hype now and turning it more from a collection hobby into a competition to find a chase card. It makes me not even wanna open product because of how low the hit rates are tbh
It’s as if the Pokémon company wants to earn money, really strange
Opened a stellar crown booster box watching this... got the squirtle IR and then the Terapagos SIR on the very last pack. The increased luck for being subscribed to Danny is actually doubled while watching the video
Almost 300 packs opened and I couldn't get that Larvesta to save my life. You'd better believe I got Bruxish, though. Five times.
😅😂
My condolences.
i got that larvesta like twice...wait thrice i think lol
i opened a booster bundle and got bootychu 🤣
That Bruxish is the new Pawmi 😂
This is always my favourite type of video, getting to see a bunch of examples from booster boxes
I pulled the Latias from my booster box! I listed it on TCG for $224 today. It's still rising in value! I have one more booster box to open. I am doing ok so far. I feel like the quality control on this set is absolutely terrible. There are so many off centered and color issues. Not to mention the wide variations in pull rates. I totally agree with you that unless you have spare money to throw around, DON'T OPEN SURGING SPARKS!!!
+1 opened 2 boxes and a single Latias was the only notable
Ya, man. The whole booster boxes being at/above MSRP BEFORE release is nuts. We are definitely in uncharted territory right now. I may be wrong but I don't think buying them at their current prices is a good idea.
dark danny has returned 👺
Yeah I'd rather just enjoy my purchases. That said if you're actually investing in your cards for market purposes, this is really informative.
Imagine buying a booster box and getting the $45 BOOSTER box thats cray
Is English your second language?
@buffalobill9793 what a degen comment, you went out your way to write that and thought you did something 🤣
What are you trying to say?
The whole point of opening booster boxes is because it's usually the cheapest cost per pack, but in the case where it isn't it really doesn't make sense to open them for me, I'd rather mix things up with random products to have a chance at beating the averages if it's the same cost per pack or even cheaper.
facts. i bought 1 booster box, but the next one i buy is staying sealed. i'd rather just buy booster bundles.
Reprint is the best print. Making the set available for everyone is nice to see.
Yeah. Typically I’m not a numbers guy because it can be inconsistent but that’s so incredibly bad that you’ve actually convinced me. I want the Hydreigon SIR really badly, but at this rate I’m just gonna maybe buy 1-2 build and battle boxes for the promos and call it a day for this set then maybe buy the Hydreigon.
I miss when collecting was for the fun of it, rather than chasing the most expensive things and "investing" in sealed products. I have fun opening shiny cardboard with and for my community and making memories as favourites are pulled
if you bought it to open it then open it. the market will go up a bit more and then drop theres no point in holding off on opening
This explains why my box was the way it was. I love these presentations because it gives you a realistic expectation. Pokémon and tcgplayer should pay you for this!
I know you showed the pull rates but this just makes it feel that IR and SIR pull rates are worse.
Dude that box with just a single Jasmine's Gaze is crazy bad. I'd be so mad if my box only had 1 full art as its rarest hit
I opened my entire sealed booster box case. I was lucky enough to preorder super early at $599.99.
I paid $599.98. You overpaid.
@@jasone42683i paid 593 (and its still sealed). I win 😂
I didn’t pay anything.
Because I didn’t get anything.
I wish I got something 🥲.
No one cares though so why put this comment out there. Thanks.
@@nathanielsinlao1698 ah come on that was a lot meaner than mine. At least I was trying to be funny.
Sometimes the poke market get pretty overwhelming for the dudes who are really just tryna have fun collecting sets and casually play thegame. 😅
That’s crazy. I opened one case and got a Pikachu SIR, Latias SIR, Hydreigon SIR, Clemont’s Quick Wit SIR, Skarmory IR, and Counter Gain Hyper Rare, for my best pulls. Thought about getting another case but I guess you just have to know when you’ve been lucky because it would be more likely a second case would give me some rather crap pulls. Thanks for the info!
I bought 2 etb's which I plan to keep sealed for a long time. But the more I watch people open packs the more I want to know what's inside those boxes. I'm almost at my limit lol
Those etb's have no chance.
The box I opened I got two bulk full arts, two bulk IRs, and one ace spec.... Absolutely smoked
That's what I just experienced tonight, except I did get two Ace Specs...unfortunately I already had both of them. But yeah, only pulling two bulk IRs and two bulk full arts from a booster box feels so brutal.
One of the best UA-cam videos ever created by a poke tuber. Why don’t more make this kind of content?
Putting the boosters away, only opening PC ETBs from now on!
Bad idea
I CURRENTLY HAVE 4 SEALED SURGING SPARKS ETB BOXES!!!!
thanks for opening so many bbs, gives a more clear idea of the odds
Its unfair to add 10 bucks to bulk. Bulk almost never gets sold
A lot of card shops buy bulk
Yup, I’ll be keeping my booster box sealed. I feel like this set will be another Evolving Skies with that Pikachu chase card.
I have one more SS box on the way. You've convinced me to just hold it or sell it on immediately. Maybe I'll sell the packs separately for the current local going price.
Won't the prices go up at some point? I'm new to collecting and pulled the Pikachu Hyper Rare, the gold one. If it's only going to go down in value I'm wondering if I should just sell it to keep rippin OR get it graded. It looks like it might grade at a 9. It looks really good.
This vid convinced me. I'm keeping my PC ETBs sealed and just buying a complete C/UC/HR set on eBay for under US$100 and then working slowly through singles to get my master set. Way cheaper. I can get a close to master set for the price of ONE booster box.
I preordered 5 displays for 110€ each very happy still ripped em all got decent hits
Thanks for putting in the work mate! As a relatively new TCG store owner I find all of the data you put together incredibly insightful!
The sec I pull the Pikachu I’m done opening the set…until the packs looking at me telling me to rip more
damn, this is depressing. i never open a box again 😭
I opened 2 PC ETBs and got absolutely roasted, cooked, burnt to a crisp with pulls. Hope the promos grade good ☠
Same, absolutely roasted and only 1 promo card that might be graded 😂
ETB rates are bad?
Yep...I opened 4 and got absolute trash. Best card was the Durant SIR haha.
@@Navue-cn2tx feels like it. Although I opened other product and got cooked also. Luck of the draw 🥲
Danny, do you think Surging will get reprinted? Thank You.
How the heck would he know. Your guess is as good as his. This is the last set release before Xmas so I would guess there will be lots more of it coming. That would be my guess.
For SIRs still need Latias, Jasmine’s Gaze, Durant, and Alolan Exeggutor, along with Feebas IR and three of the four Pikachus. Got the SIR before the regular ex even!
That’s awesome! Nice pulls!
Yup 30 packs 3 sir 2 ir 4 exs 1 gold 😅😅😅 alohan Exeggutor, pikachu, drayton😅😅 I'm done with the set
Is there confirmed reprints for booster boxes?
Should I buy 2 bundle or a Etb?
Surging Sparks really proves that you need more money for collection, which is intimidating...
I was so excited for this set but the prices, pull rates and how many packs it took for you to master set has completely made me rethink. I know the same will be true for the Eevee set coming up but I’d rather save my pennies for that. Thanks for another insightful stat filled video.
Every big box store was sold out the day after being stocked… every single pack no joke.
I just grabbed 12 sleeved packs at Game Stop. I know, they suck but they served a purpose today. No big pulls 😐
@ I’ve pulled very good hits from sleeved booster packs. It’s all luck honestly. Glad you found some!
Pikachu SIR from a Sleeved Booster here, they are out there!! 🎉
@ BRAVO! 🙌
I just went to a Target and it was fully stocked of everything..I was shocked the scalpers must be broke lol
This is one of my favorite videos that you do and I've been waiting for it! Thank you for all that you do
There’s a lot of psychology involved in the decision making process for Pokemon tag to optimize revenue/profit.
The Archuladons lead me to believe there is a major batching issue or that the conspiracy of same rarity cards being printed in different amounts may be true.
what about the japanese booster box versions? I hear those have guarantees and they are cheaper. I know there's less packs and less cards but with guarantees it may be a good tradeoff
It is insane how expensive a NEW set is so quickly 😮💥
Wife is getting me x2 boxes for Christmas - probably opening them on Christmas day 😅
Do not open.
Don't open because the pull rates are the absolute worst.
Which recent set should I pull instead?
Paradox rift. It's still cheap to buy, has beautiful cards, and has good pull rates.
@@bbq1040 How about Stellar Crown?
Can't wait for that Alolan Pikachu card 😂
True only for US market Danny.
In EU Latias SAR is 250€ and Pikachu SAR is 450€
Skarmory is about 45€
Our boosters boxes are way more expansive as well. Its like 190€
Latias SAR you mean, not IR.
@@ant_989 SIR here in eu
Special Illustration rare Latias ex
And illustration rare latios
@ant_989 Lol yes thx, I made the correction.
I have opened 169 packs and was planning to buy one final BB at my LGS tonight to rip before buying singles.
So yes and no about making money on booster boxes, you could get lucky with PSA grades too. I get for raw value it is very rare but if you get lucky with a couple PSA 10s you could make money as well! But yeah with booster boxes it would be smart to just leave them sealed.
Not sure if you covered this but would it be better to save several boxes and let it marinate and sell later for profit? I know some packs and booster boxes sell for higher rates years later for rare finds like Pikachu and Latias. Do you think the value will decrease over time for those high value cards or will the print more packs with better pull rates? Just wondering because I haven't been in the game since Base and Jungle :)
Same rules apply. Sealed is king.
Quick question, where did you get the surging sparks binder from for you master set? I'd love to get those for my other master sets too!
The pull rates on this set are nuts. Odds of pulling ANY SIR are 1/87. Odds of specific SIR are 1/960. I think I’m gonna take a step back from this set 😂
I bought 48 surging sparks for about $176, and got about $300 in cards total but the valuable cards only about $120-130.
The demand for this set is unreal.
I get my value from boxes in commons and revereses.
Because trying to do those individually in NM condition would be dumb of me to do on like TCG player.
Where you getting these pricing? Seems low. In on collector app and prices are off
Damn! That was brutal! thank you for the info. I'm going to try and stay strong and keep all my booster boxes sealed.
My surging stuff is staying sealed, saving my rip budget for whatever the upcoming rocket set is
FYI, loving the dark Peter Parker style! 🤣
This needs a follow up to match the hype of slabs. Grade the best ones a ten and add those costs and prifits after selling the slabs. Big driver
I just bought a Japanese SIR Pikachu. At peace now 🧘 ✌️
I think this is a keep sealed if you can hold yourself back
It's sad because the 22nd booster box had the Pikachu SIR
Yeah, why not just open the 22nd BB first?
I saw a quick stop selling packs, I’ve never seen that before
Amazing backdrop! Man I wish I would have invested in the Jungle set back in the day..
I wish Pokémon went back to early S&V pull rates. I liked it when it was less if a gamble. Bring back something like Paldea Evolved. If booster boxes normalize at $160 with these pull rates, I'd stop buying and opening packs. I would rather pull a $20 SIR in every booster box than have this hard pull rate with some over hype card. With the overhyping going on, it's gonna be like this for the next couple of sets.
I don't go for booster boxes, its much more cheaper to just buy 3 packs from an online live streamer/ripper and get 1 or 2 Hits
Brother you're absolutely correct !!! I did pre order 3 booster display and 2 etb plus 2 3 pack blisters and that's all I'm bought to rip
I needed this warning before this weekend, ripped our first booster box and it was sub $50 including the Full Art Pika! 😅
Bought heavy into this set. Its rough, I've been debating opening more boxes and now I have my answer. TY Danny.
Oh wow, I love these vids just so I can see where my boxes stack up. The pull rates for this set can only be described as "wacky"
Looks like People Selling Pokemon wanted a "Dragon master Magia"(1k card) for Pokemon and they "made" one. That Pikachu cards is pretty MILD not even worth $100 in my opinion.
the market disagrees with you
Yeah...
Wish the PIkachu ex immersive art from ptcg Pocket was the SIR, that would've been worth closer to the current price, but not the current art
Well, your opinion is irrelevant.
Unfortunately no one cares about your opinion. Thanks though.
should i buy more at MSRP? where im from, theres cases full 😂
If you can afford of course. It will never be below msrp.
Thanks! Very helpful. Still hoping I can get a Pokémon center Etb to keep sealed :( pulled the Flapple last night; know it's not worth much but one I wanted so made my day
I try to look at this long term, yeah sure the prices aren't great today but give it a few years :)
Better off opening smaller boxes n keeping the bb sealed Ive had so much luck with my 6 year old daughter opening etbs and 3 pack blisters yeah we pulled the sir Pikachu from 1 ETb ;) and the sir latias from 2 3 pack blisters this set is amazing!!!!!
Was able to pull that Latias from a booster box, but that Pikachu is gonna be a pain to find. If I don’t pull from this next box, gonna have to wait on that one to come down a bit.
So far I’ve only opened 5 blisters and a booster bundle and I’ve got the both SIR Exeggutor and Latias😅
The problem is when everybody and their grandmother is an investor it rises the price of singles even more so idk if I can support this advice
Investors are mostly into collecting Sealed booster boxes, thus creating a big mismatch between high box prices but low singles prices.
And people thought I was crazy, I buy all sealed products, but never opened them.
I bought a single booster box and pulled my chase card, the Latias SIR. I'll likely buy more when demand eases off to see if I can pull anything else.
Graded Guard needs to restock those rainbow guards. Tell em Danny. I need em !
Thank you for the breakdown at the end. Definitely better off buying singles than booster boxes lol. OMG.
Do you think they're going to turn out like evolving skies everyone chasing that one card so the price is going to go up over time
Thanks for another great heads up Danny, I got a BB off the wife, I've now put it away. Get this guy to 1,000,000 🎉
I've opened about 100 packs of surging sparks so far and haven't pulled an SIR or a gold card yet. I miss the paradox rift days.
This set is really hard to worry about when Prismatic is right around the corner...and then both a trainer-themed set AND a new Rocket Set down the road. My wallet needs CPR.
surging sparks booster box in Norway goes for 160-170usd atm
i just got a bb but i haven’t opened it yet, i saw the prices and then rethought about what i was doing… i have an etb coming so i might just wait on the bb
What you think about the latias SIR?