I do not understand why the fans of Taemin get angry, Taemin and Heechul have known each other for years, Heenim would never do anything that bothers him, besides the Korean humor is like that, it's a rough humor and everyone knows that.
I'm a taemint and I dont understand few comments either.Taemin is a kind of boy who could keep smiling for 90 minutes without saying a word if hosts didnt mention him.TOOOOO QUIET and it's not good for TV show.So I feel really thankful for Heechul's joke which means screen time.And I know taemin is a big boy,that's all.
Fans love to ship idols with the same gender and become overly sensitive when their idols are being teased about their sexual preference. That is so stupid. Leave Heenim and Taemin alone.
That's basically how the tease in this show works, they joke with divorce, gambling problems, bankruptcy, gender, and that's just with the cast of the show. Heechul always gives his best to give all of the guests screen time, if you watch well he's actually really caring for them. Also, he is known as the psycho of the show, he makes the weird questions, he does the jokes that nobody else would have the courage to do, that's his role, that's his job. The guests know what they are going to be doing there, how the show is going to be. The guests know that is a show where you "can do anything" no matter what. But you need to keep in mind that the cast will also follow this mindset. Fans who only watch their idols episode would never be able to understand.
Lívia Suelen yap.this show is late night show,the comedy is explicit and this show known for breaking the barrier thats why a "kid" or easily bothered people shouldnt even watch this show at the first place.
This show is actually extraordianary Guests can speak informally to the older hyungs but the cast wouldn't mind as well Plus joking about the controversies actually make it less sensitive
Shinee is probably the only male idol group I like in all of Pop music, and Taemin is my fav out of out of them. I understand why fans feel bad for Taemin but the hosts of the show, especially Heechul, are not trying to attack him purposely. Taemin is bad at variety and Heechul knows it, he is helping him to get screen time. Count how many times Taemin's Goodbye was played throughout the show and how many time Shinee's song was played. Fans of Taemin knows how much he hates being called girly, thats why they feel bad for him, I get all that, but for entertainer who craves for screen time/attention, Taemin pretty much is the star of this episode.
Daniel Wang calm down, shawol know it well (maybe most of them (?)) that heenim just joking, he even do bad jokes with girl groups members. And I like how he save screen time of SM members naturally (Revel, snsd, even kangta LOL)
Thnanks man, good thing this was the first comment I saw when i clicked on this video.. saves me a lot from all the other negative comments (though I can understand where they are coming from.. shawols can't help but be protective of the maknae after all) but it's all good cuz heechul and taemin are my two SM biases for a long time
Exactly. I mean, people also need to realize that some guys are a little more feminine than others, just like some women have more 'masculine' tendencies than others. This doesn't dictate anything about them as a person, it's just who they are. His gentle qualities are something I actually really appreciate about him, I think it's very sweet. Furthermore, I totally agree with you that Heechul is absolutely helping Taemin out. One thing we all know for certain about Taemin is that he's just a naturally quiet and shy person. He definitely shines on stage, that seems to be where he really lets loose and gives it his all. But for programs like these, he definitely needs someone to push the envelope and help him come out a little bit more so that he can get screentime. He's just more of a wallflower when it comes to these kinds of programs, and that's totally fine. That's why it's so great to have someone like Heechul there to really keep the energy up and get everyone going. I thought it was all fantastic.
Daniel Wang Truth! Honestly, I'm much more familiar with Minho & Key only (since I'm not really into KPop)... but after the brothers' hilarious attack on Taemin, he finally caught my attention and I agree that he's pretty... If only he'll be able to react like Hee regarding the feminine issues, he'll do great in variety shows.
Yeonmin Yui I see this alot so I'm guessing English isn't your first language but you really shouldn't be telling people to calm down. For me at least it makes me angry when ppl say calm down because it kind of says that the person was too emotional or crazy so you are telling them to chill. Next time pick your words better. Also not all shawls thought like you which is why he posted what he did. I thought his words were thoughtful and pretty valid, I'm not sure why you are upset about them tbh.
(late sorry) I totally agree with if you do not speak korean please don't use words like Oppa or Unnie... I think it's stupid. Sorry but I have seen a lot of english fans get angry at some idol because they throw English words while they are talking in korean and say for them to speak their own language yet say OPPA an UNNIE and DONGSENG.... sweetheart that is part of korean language.
Yeah. I said this on another comment (can't remember the video...) and the comment was something on the lines as "I don't get why they put english words in their songs it's stupid" then they go on and on then at the end they said. " But I will always support my oppa's" And when I said that they were being a hypocrite. And they got mad at me because I outed them. Then went on and on about me only wanting to korean because I liked kpop.... Like sweetheart... I think the korean culture is very intresting. And yes I do love kpop but I would not want to learn a language just to understand a song when there are subtitles... Korean Culture is very intresting thats why I wanna learn korean and about their culture.
Sorry now i got the point😅😅😅. I dont know that it cant be use cause in my country people do talk in this way mixing english and the native language so i am use to speak and write in this way🙂🙂🙂. But i'll try not to use it😊😊. (Sorry for bad english)
personally, i feel heechul is the only one with the right to joke about this as heechul went through the same himself and I'm sure he didn't feel comfortable with this branding right from the start. and though heechul can pull off femininity flawlessly, he still is and acts manly naturally. all in all, taemin is gonna have to use this prettiness as advantage a bit like heechul did.
Late but by the time you wrote this comment, Taemin had publicly embraced his femininity and even went as far as to incorporate it into the choreo for his song Move. Yes, Taemin disliked being teased about being girly when he was a teenager, but he grew out of it and realized there's nothing wrong with his feminine attributes. The gentle ribbing he got from his long time hyungs at KB clearly didn't set him back too much as Move was released the next year
It seems that a lot of people are forgetting about what happens behind the scenes. Obviously Taemin and the hosts (in this case, especially Heechul) have discussed what are acceptable and okay to be "teased" with during the filming. The hosts don't just tease him out of the blue without his consent. Besides, if Taemin really did not like what happened, he could have asked the producers to remove the scenes out before broadcasting.
I like Heechul, but I don’t think it’s as simple as you’re making it out to be. Taemin is naturally very introverted and seems to get anxious on variety shows. It’s probably more difficult for him to defend himself, compared to Heechul or the hosts of the show. Also, I think you’re over-estimating how much power idols have on these shows. For those reasons, I don’t think we can assume this was agreed to beforehand.
I think people can criticize the show, without blaming Heechul or Taemin. Heechul clearly wasn’t trying to be hurtful. At the same time, you can see why some people would feel he went too far. Both of these things can be true. Also, just because a show is known for being “savage” doesn’t mean it’s beyond criticism. Look at Doni and Coni.
I'm a fan of both Shinee and Super Junior. I've always watched this show because it has freedom to say anything and do anything. The MCs have always teased the guests, as well as the other MCs about sensitive issues but the guests still look to be having fun. If you're not a fan of the show, you won't know this but Heechul has always been teased about his gender. Come on everyone, let's not fight over this, even Taemin seems to be having fun. It's been awhile since they went to variety shows and talk shows. I'm sure every fan missed them so let's just enjoy it.
SM stan here!!! guys chill.. Heenim is just being himself as usual vocal, straightforward and "psycho".. everyone in the K-industry knows that may it be the oldest and newest idol/entertainer/actors in korea.. I do not know heechul personally but from what i see in tv and other shows this is the reason why K-idols and actors want to be friends with him because of his attitude..he's himself and they love it.. and to remind you guys that everytime a new group from SM is introduced, or a new song from sm groups comes out, Super Junior were always the first one to promote and support them.. Heechul even danced to Lucifer choreo while performing No other live ( he didn't dance to no other's choreo that moment) and promoting the song at the same time ... So guys let's calm it down.. if you're an avid Shawol or Elf who thinks he knows their ub well then you also knew that Shinee and Suju are really close on and offcam right? so whats the fuzz it's just a variety show. plus guest were debrief before shooting a show bout this and that stuff , what they're supposed to talk about and producers/writers ask the artists if topic is no go or a go.. :) peace we're family here.. SMTOWN is family so are we fans.
and knowing heechul he's just making a lot of screen time for taeminie... unlike when shinee went to happy together we could barely see him talk.. and we knew that the more savage heenim is to that person the more he cared and comfortable for/to them..
해외 댓글 다 과민반응 하지 말라그러네ㅋㅋㅋ 근데 실상은 저 부분 확실하게 문제돼서 방통위 제재 받았었음 샤이니랑 슈주가 친하든말든 비하인드씬에서 합의를 했든말든 김희철이 무례했고 시청자들 눈살 찌푸리게 만들었던거 팩트다 이말이야잇!! 아오 저날 방송보고 빡쳐서 새벽 3시까지 잠못잤던거 생각나네
그냥 이 영상 가지고만 하는 말은 아니고, 옛날에 데뷔한 아이돌이라는 특성상 멤버들 다 별별 말들을 들어봤는데 특히 예쁘게 생긴 태민이 유독 그런 취급을 많이 받았음... 근데 그런 경험이 있다보니 프리티보이 (종현작사)나 무브, 원트라는 노래가 나온 것 같다는 생각이 든다... 라디오에서 남녀를 떠나서 태민, 자신을 보여주고 싶었다 했으니까... 그런 사람들 덕분에 좋은 노래가 나왔단 말이 아니라 자신이 연예인으로 직접 겪었기 때문에 사회에 던지는 메시지가 잘 전해졌다는 느낌
Before we go about saying about Heechul being mean and all...can we just sit back and watch Heechul saying "Kyunghoon is mine" to Taemin. I mean this is a VARIETY show and Heechul's character is known to tease guests. And only him have the ability to tease SM artists like this which gives us, viewers, a lot of entertainment (I mean who dares to tease SM, guys?). Knowing Brothers is known for making jokes on divorced, gambling, debts, you name it. They have worser situation than Taemin's so chill guys! I'm here for Heechul's and Kyunghoon's bromance and I don't get what's the commotion is about lol.
heyyo its not like Taemin is the only one heechul teased about the same thing right? John Park made a mistake and teased about it his fans didn't even say a mean comments to heechul or others in Happy Together
Shawol please == I'm Shawol too, you guys don't need to overreact like this, we all know Suju is good with our boys. Don't let the little thing like this become a fan war between ELF and Shawol. Sorry Heel Chul and ELF for being rude.
don't feel guilty. "my love has no casket and your heart should be moving on" he wouldn't want us to be sad. ik it hurts, heck it still does, but just try to keep in mind that jonghyun would have probably been also laughing if he watched this again.
근데 이태민 왜케 잘생겼음 .? 흑발하니까 ㄹㅇ 개잘생겼네 초반에 웃으면서 눈웃음칠때 내 심장도 같이 멎는줄...현존하는 남자아이돌중에서 제일 잘생쁨의 정석 같음..약간 팬이 아닌 사람이봐도 홀리는기분이랄까....
본업할때랑 일상일때의 갭차이도.. 아이돌의 정석
그냥 이태민 책으로 내야함
진짜 실사판 하울,,,
@@박서윤-d3d 강동원
저날 진짜 너무 잘생기지 않았나요 ㅠㅠㅠ
태민이 놀림 받아도 옴뇸뇸 부끄러워해도 다 잘 받아주고 젤 귀엽다 진짜ㅠㅠ
we all know heechul adores taemin. don't overreact.
i mean clearly, the more he picks on someone the more he wants to make out with them
Bruna well your comment is unexpected
@@wearmeout1 Seems accurate
@@wearmeout1 i cant breathe😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everyone adores taemin tbf
heechul knows how to tease people.. that's why I like him 😂😂😂
I want to learn from him 😅
5 yrs ago 5k likes🤩
Yeahhhhhh
태민이 웃을때 진짜 무슨 천사같아... 아니 생각해보니까 천사중에서도 이런 천사 없음
와 쩐다 저렇게 깔끔하게 때리는데 저런 소리가 ㄷㄷ태민 넘 매력적
태민이 이쁨은 여자같은 이쁨이 아니잖아..
성별을 떠난 요정의 외모인데..
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅇㅈ
I do not understand why the fans of Taemin get angry, Taemin and Heechul have known each other for years, Heenim would never do anything that bothers him, besides the Korean humor is like that, it's a rough humor and everyone knows that.
I'm a taemint and I dont understand few comments either.Taemin is a kind of boy who could keep smiling for 90 minutes without saying a word if hosts didnt mention him.TOOOOO QUIET and it's not good for TV show.So I feel really thankful for Heechul's joke which means screen time.And I know taemin is a big boy,that's all.
lolaa fish yes but Taemin doesnt like being treated like that as he said in MANY shows. Thats why shawols are being protective towards the maknae.
lolaa fish
lolaa fish korean humor is nothing compared to western and uk we swear at each other and shit
Fans love to ship idols with the same gender and become overly sensitive when their idols are being teased about their sexual preference. That is so stupid. Leave Heenim and Taemin alone.
태민이 넘 착해 진짜ㅠ
HAHAHAHA Taemin yelling at his hyungs "don't laugh!" i don't think i've seen him do that before??
Xtiane Bajada when?
Bella 0:37
@Just Pass he hates having a girly look?
Just Pass he needs to stop thinking like that. there’s nothing wrong with the way he looks. his femininity is beautiful.
Nop. .it'his choice.. if he thinks he doesn't want to look feminine...which is completely normal. .he has the right to hate it
That's basically how the tease in this show works, they joke with divorce, gambling problems, bankruptcy, gender, and that's just with the cast of the show.
Heechul always gives his best to give all of the guests screen time, if you watch well he's actually really caring for them. Also, he is known as the psycho of the show, he makes the weird questions, he does the jokes that nobody else would have the courage to do, that's his role, that's his job. The guests know what they are going to be doing there, how the show is going to be. The guests know that is a show where you "can do anything" no matter what. But you need to keep in mind that the cast will also follow this mindset.
Fans who only watch their idols episode would never be able to understand.
Lívia Suelen yap.this show is late night show,the comedy is explicit and this show known for breaking the barrier thats why a "kid" or easily bothered people shouldnt even watch this show at the first place.
This show is actually extraordianary
Guests can speak informally to the older hyungs but the cast wouldn't mind as well
Plus joking about the controversies actually make it less sensitive
FR
1절만 하라는 소리가 괜히 있는게 아니다..태민이 웃는 모습이 빛나는 영상이네ㅋㅋㅋ
태민이 너무 착해서 다 받아준다고ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 샤이니편은 못 보겠어 진짜루,,,
완전체로 나온거 저 편밖에 없어서 계속 보는데 진짜 보면서 불편할 정도로 막 하는 순간들이 넘 많음ㅠㅠㅠㅠ저때 당시에도 제재 들어갔다고 하는데...이번 겨울에 샤이니 컴백하면 아형 찍어주세여
저도요... 그냥 오늘 재방보는데 보는내내 속상했어요 처음들어올때부터 대우도 그렇고 탬니가 듣기 좀 그렇다고 했는데도 계속 여자여자 거리고ㅜㅠㅠ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ형들이 뿅망치 쥐어주면서 가서 때리라 하는거 개귀여워
Shinee is probably the only male idol group I like in all of Pop music, and Taemin is my fav out of out of them. I understand why fans feel bad for Taemin but the hosts of the show, especially Heechul, are not trying to attack him purposely. Taemin is bad at variety and Heechul knows it, he is helping him to get screen time. Count how many times Taemin's Goodbye was played throughout the show and how many time Shinee's song was played. Fans of Taemin knows how much he hates being called girly, thats why they feel bad for him, I get all that, but for entertainer who craves for screen time/attention, Taemin pretty much is the star of this episode.
Daniel Wang calm down, shawol know it well (maybe most of them (?)) that heenim just joking, he even do bad jokes with girl groups members. And I like how he save screen time of SM members naturally (Revel, snsd, even kangta LOL)
Thnanks man, good thing this was the first comment I saw when i clicked on this video.. saves me a lot from all the other negative comments (though I can understand where they are coming from.. shawols can't help but be protective of the maknae after all) but it's all good cuz heechul and taemin are my two SM biases for a long time
Exactly. I mean, people also need to realize that some guys are a little more feminine than others, just like some women have more 'masculine' tendencies than others. This doesn't dictate anything about them as a person, it's just who they are. His gentle qualities are something I actually really appreciate about him, I think it's very sweet. Furthermore, I totally agree with you that Heechul is absolutely helping Taemin out. One thing we all know for certain about Taemin is that he's just a naturally quiet and shy person. He definitely shines on stage, that seems to be where he really lets loose and gives it his all. But for programs like these, he definitely needs someone to push the envelope and help him come out a little bit more so that he can get screentime. He's just more of a wallflower when it comes to these kinds of programs, and that's totally fine. That's why it's so great to have someone like Heechul there to really keep the energy up and get everyone going. I thought it was all fantastic.
Daniel Wang Truth! Honestly, I'm much more familiar with Minho & Key only (since I'm not really into KPop)... but after the brothers' hilarious attack on Taemin, he finally caught my attention and I agree that he's pretty... If only he'll be able to react like Hee regarding the feminine issues, he'll do great in variety shows.
Yeonmin Yui I see this alot so I'm guessing English isn't your first language but you really shouldn't be telling people to calm down. For me at least it makes me angry when ppl say calm down because it kind of says that the person was too emotional or crazy so you are telling them to chill. Next time pick your words better. Also not all shawls thought like you which is why he posted what he did. I thought his words were thoughtful and pretty valid, I'm not sure why you are upset about them tbh.
태민 귀여워서 더 그러는 거도 있는 듯ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ놀리는 재미가 있어..
이태민 너무 착해서 다 받아줘ㅋ큐ㅠㅠ
태민이가 사회생활 이미 만렙이고..방송이니까 웃으면서 받아주는거지 자기네들 재밌다고 그 사람 커리어가지고 놀리는거는 정말 눈살 찌뿌려지는데...예능이니 참는다 😢
기분나쁠법도 한데 웃으면서 다 받아주는 태민이 귀여워서 잇몸마르네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
태민이 저정도로 큰소리 내는거 흔치 않은뎈ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
하 이태민 입덕 직전이다ㅠㅠㅜㅠ 너무 잘생김 근데 귀엽고 멋있어 아아앙ㅏ아악
타팬인데 진짜 태민이 곱게 이쁘게 생겼다 ㅜㅜㅜㅠ
샤이니 그래도 김희철이 놀리니까 태민이 보고 가서 때리라고함ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ진짜 착하다 워딩은 좀 불편하지망 그래도 샤이니 멤버들 다 착해보임ㅋㅋㅋ
뭔소린지 1도 모르겠음
@@아미늘보-i3d ㅇㅈㅋㅋㅋ
이게 뭔 쌉소리징
김희철이 태민 여자같다고 놀리니까 가서 때리라고하는게 착하게 느껴졌지만 사람을 때리라는 워딩이 불편하다 그래도 샤이니 착해보인다 이거아님?
@@왕-n8l 이거다
태민이 귀여워라 ㅜㅜ
heechul oppa is the best at teasing his dongseng😄😄😄😄
taemin oppa is soo cute😍😍😍
lee cchu i dont speak korean but i can understand a little😅😅😅
(late sorry) I totally agree with if you do not speak korean please don't use words like Oppa or Unnie... I think it's stupid. Sorry but I have seen a lot of english fans get angry at some idol because they throw English words while they are talking in korean and say for them to speak their own language yet say OPPA an UNNIE and DONGSENG.... sweetheart that is part of korean language.
Yeah. I said this on another comment (can't remember the video...) and the comment was something on the lines as "I don't get why they put english words in their songs it's stupid" then they go on and on then at the end they said. " But I will always support my oppa's" And when I said that they were being a hypocrite. And they got mad at me because I outed them. Then went on and on about me only wanting to korean because I liked kpop.... Like sweetheart... I think the korean culture is very intresting. And yes I do love kpop but I would not want to learn a language just to understand a song when there are subtitles... Korean Culture is very intresting thats why I wanna learn korean and about their culture.
Sorry now i got the point😅😅😅. I dont know that it cant be use cause in my country people do talk in this way mixing english and the native language so i am use to speak and write in this way🙂🙂🙂. But i'll try not to use it😊😊.
(Sorry for bad english)
What is disrespectful?
0:38 태민이 '비웃지마!' 소리지르면서 웃는거 귀여운데 이상한가요. 근데 그러면서 깜짝 놀라지 않는 멤버들도 신기.
저도 기여워요 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
태민오빠 잘생겼다 멋졌어요
태민이 반응 넘후 귀여어ㅜㅜㅠ❤
정말 태민이 천상 연예인이다
이태민 누나들 여럿 울릴 거 같다...
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ아니 김희철ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅌㅌㅌㅋ언니면 동시에 자폭이네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
아니 그러네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
태민이 착하다ㅠㅜ
personally, i feel heechul is the only one with the right to joke about this as heechul went through the same himself and I'm sure he didn't feel comfortable with this branding right from the start. and though heechul can pull off femininity flawlessly, he still is and acts manly naturally.
all in all, taemin is gonna have to use this prettiness as advantage a bit like heechul did.
Late but by the time you wrote this comment, Taemin had publicly embraced his femininity and even went as far as to incorporate it into the choreo for his song Move. Yes, Taemin disliked being teased about being girly when he was a teenager, but he grew out of it and realized there's nothing wrong with his feminine attributes. The gentle ribbing he got from his long time hyungs at KB clearly didn't set him back too much as Move was released the next year
It’s crazy you wrote this four years ago because your foreshadowing is scarily accurate. He ended up using it to his advantage.
It went from your keyboard to god’s eyes.
여자다움 남자다움 그런 거 없어..
이태민은 그냥 태민다워..
[형용사] 태민하다
-예쁘고 잘생기고 귀엽고 어도러블하고 매력이 넘치며
무결점에 순수하고 착하면서도 성질이 드럽다.
2:24 민경훈 표정 왜케 귀엽냐
너도 봤구나.. 그래.. 솔직히 제목에 경훈이 이름 나와서 들어와 본거 솔직하게 말할게..
I honestly dont understand all this comment about heechul-taemin.If you watch the show, they joke like this in Knowing Brother. You go Heechul!
I think heechul asked if taemin can give them kiss if they win/answer the question and taemin replied faster by saying he'll give him money instead
nurin bahiyah I actually ship Heechul x Taemin after watching this and when I read the comments I was like, "whut. 😶" 😂😂😂
nurin bahiyah yeah. Heechul teasing Taemin because they're close. ☺
워 이태민 멤버들한테 웃지마앜!!! 하는데 박력탬 오졌다
다들 태민이가 예쁘다고 하는데
난 잘생겨서 좋은데...
Onew, Jonghyun, Minho: *Go beat his ass Taemin*
Key: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! *Dying of laughter*
Lmaoo the difference
😂😂😂KEY laugh is life
I love it 🤣😂🤣😂🤣💜
taekey are always bickering and going after eachother lol. they're like..literal brothers. lol. going back and forth with their jabs. pft.
This is why key is my ult bias in SHINee 😂😂💀💀❤❤
김영철 뒤에 잡힌 민경훈 진짜 귀엽다ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 고민하다가 너? 하니까 배시시 웃는거 와 미친다 와
아니 와 그래도 태민이 진짜 예쁘다.....여자인 나도 홀리는 기분인데ㄷㄷ
여자인 본인을 홀려야죠 아니 아무렇지 않게 넘어갔넼ㅎㅋㅅㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
0:27 이때가 난 이태민 최애 머리
Heechul has been Taemin's family before your guy know there is a boy named Lee Taemin. Stop saying stupid thing cuz they don't mind whatever you said.
그만 놀려..ㅜ 태민이 성격 순한 게 보이네..
“경훈인 내꺼~”하고 씩 웃으며 “찜! “하는거 사랑스럽다.
2:34 김희철 윙크 녹는다 ;
It seems that a lot of people are forgetting about what happens behind the scenes. Obviously Taemin and the hosts (in this case, especially Heechul) have discussed what are acceptable and okay to be "teased" with during the filming. The hosts don't just tease him out of the blue without his consent. Besides, if Taemin really did not like what happened, he could have asked the producers to remove the scenes out before broadcasting.
Ri Rie88 even how savage this show is.. There are always terms and conditions to meet..
I like Heechul, but I don’t think it’s as simple as you’re making it out to be. Taemin is naturally very introverted and seems to get anxious on variety shows. It’s probably more difficult for him to defend himself, compared to Heechul or the hosts of the show. Also, I think you’re over-estimating how much power idols have on these shows. For those reasons, I don’t think we can assume this was agreed to beforehand.
I think people can criticize the show, without blaming Heechul or Taemin. Heechul clearly wasn’t trying to be hurtful. At the same time, you can see why some people would feel he went too far. Both of these things can be true. Also, just because a show is known for being “savage” doesn’t mean it’s beyond criticism. Look at Doni and Coni.
I'm a fan of both Shinee and Super Junior. I've always watched this show because it has freedom to say anything and do anything. The MCs have always teased the guests, as well as the other MCs about sensitive issues but the guests still look to be having fun. If you're not a fan of the show, you won't know this but Heechul has always been teased about his gender. Come on everyone, let's not fight over this, even Taemin seems to be having fun. It's been awhile since they went to variety shows and talk shows. I'm sure every fan missed them so let's just enjoy it.
saranghae821 👍👍👍👍👍
saranghae821 this,i actually glad taemin even get the spotlight.
I know this is two years later, but they're also from the same company. They're literally family
SM stan here!!! guys chill.. Heenim is just being himself as usual vocal, straightforward and "psycho".. everyone in the K-industry knows that may it be the oldest and newest idol/entertainer/actors in korea.. I do not know heechul personally but from what i see in tv and other shows this is the reason why K-idols and actors want to be friends with him because of his attitude..he's himself and they love it.. and to remind you guys that everytime a new group from SM is introduced, or a new song from sm groups comes out, Super Junior were always the first one to promote and support them.. Heechul even danced to Lucifer choreo while performing No other live ( he didn't dance to no other's choreo that moment) and promoting the song at the same time ... So guys let's calm it down.. if you're an avid Shawol or Elf who thinks he knows their ub well then you also knew that Shinee and Suju are really close on and offcam right? so whats the fuzz it's just a variety show. plus guest were debrief before shooting a show bout this and that stuff , what they're supposed to talk about and producers/writers ask the artists if topic is no go or a go.. :) peace we're family here.. SMTOWN is family so are we fans.
and knowing heechul he's just making a lot of screen time for taeminie... unlike when shinee went to happy together we could barely see him talk.. and we knew that the more savage heenim is to that person the more he cared and comfortable for/to them..
I love that your not just a stan for one group but an SM stan, thats exactly how I am
해외 댓글 다 과민반응 하지 말라그러네ㅋㅋㅋ 근데 실상은 저 부분 확실하게 문제돼서 방통위 제재 받았었음 샤이니랑 슈주가 친하든말든 비하인드씬에서 합의를 했든말든 김희철이 무례했고 시청자들 눈살 찌푸리게 만들었던거 팩트다 이말이야잇!! 아오 저날 방송보고 빡쳐서 새벽 3시까지 잠못잤던거 생각나네
헐 방통위 제재..
그런걸로도 제재해요?? ㅇㅁㅇ
저런 걸로 방통위에서 제재를 먹인다고?
진짜먹였더라고요
기사찾아보삼
별난한나씌 성차별적인 말이잖아요.. 시대흐름 못 읽어요?
근데 태민이는 남돌비주얼담당인 사람들 만큼 진짜 보편적으로(쌍커풀+높은코+브이라인 등)잘생겼는데 그에비해 외모가 많이 저평가된듯
존잘ㄹㄹㄹ 인데
그냥 이 영상 가지고만 하는 말은 아니고, 옛날에 데뷔한 아이돌이라는 특성상 멤버들 다 별별 말들을 들어봤는데 특히 예쁘게 생긴 태민이 유독 그런 취급을 많이 받았음... 근데 그런 경험이 있다보니 프리티보이 (종현작사)나 무브, 원트라는 노래가 나온 것 같다는 생각이 든다... 라디오에서 남녀를 떠나서 태민, 자신을 보여주고 싶었다 했으니까... 그런 사람들 덕분에 좋은 노래가 나왔단 말이 아니라 자신이 연예인으로 직접 겪었기 때문에 사회에 던지는 메시지가 잘 전해졌다는 느낌
예전이라서 더 그렇든 너무 화 안내면 좋겠다 지금이라도 아는형님 바뀌면 될듯..ㅠ 성차별적 요소 저때 넘 많았음 희님 분홍 신발 신으니깐 여자 처럼 핑크가 뭐냐고 하하..
샤이니 보면서 기분 좋았다가 영어 댓글 보고 띠용함 ㅎㅎ 왜 당사자도 아닌 본인들이 나서서 태민이 기분이 이래야된다 저래야된다 함? ㅎㅎ
사석에서 저런 농담같지도 않은 말로 낄낄거리면 바로 손절각임데 으휴.... 저때 당시에도 제재 들어갔었다하니 말 다했네,,,,
속상해요진짜..
아 진짜 이진기 김종현 김기범 최민호 이태민이 최고다❤️
@@우치하시스이-i5e 그전 방송일거에요. 최근게아니구
@@우치하시스이-i5e 말하는 꼬라지 봐라
Genie 뭐래ㅋ
2:36귀여워 경후니ㅠㅠㅠ
웃지마아ㅏ아악! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ박력탬
으어...김희철 아파쪄 너무 귀엽다ㅋㅋ
Before we go about saying about Heechul being mean and all...can we just sit back and watch Heechul saying "Kyunghoon is mine" to Taemin. I mean this is a VARIETY show and Heechul's character is known to tease guests. And only him have the ability to tease SM artists like this which gives us, viewers, a lot of entertainment (I mean who dares to tease SM, guys?). Knowing Brothers is known for making jokes on divorced, gambling, debts, you name it. They have worser situation than Taemin's so chill guys! I'm here for Heechul's and Kyunghoon's bromance and I don't get what's the commotion is about lol.
heyyo its not like Taemin is the only one heechul teased about the same thing right? John Park made a mistake and teased about it his fans didn't even say a mean comments to heechul or others in Happy Together
يليت اقبل تمين وجه لي وجه
희님+탬니=개 이쁨
thanks to Heechul to make uri Taemin laugh
😄😄😄
poor Taemin 😂😂😂
Taem is strong no need to overprotect him.. he probably knows it's just for fun
Shawol please == I'm Shawol too, you guys don't need to overreact like this, we all know Suju is good with our boys. Don't let the little thing like this become a fan war between ELF and Shawol. Sorry Heel Chul and ELF for being rude.
Yeah, If we continue to make a mountain out of molehill like this, we'll embarrass SHINee & Shawol ourselves. Let's stop this Shawol !
nthg nthg its okay. 😊
02:36 Kyunghoon why so shy? kkk
OMG I told myself I wouldn't watch this without subs but here I am watching and enjoying every second of it1
희철이 저때는 무례했던거 맞아요ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 하지만 이거하나는 알아주세요ㅠㅠ희철이는 항상 피드백이 빨라서 하지말라는건 안해요ㅠㅜㅠ그이후에 태민님 여성스럽다는둥 뭐 그런걸로 절대 놀린적없어요ㅠㅠ김희가 짖궃게 한건 저도 아는데 피드백이 확실한 사람이라 그이후에는 절대 태민님에 관해 논란될일 안만들었어요ㅠㅠㅠ
그건 맞움 희님 욕하는게 아니라 우리 탬니가 싫어하는 상황들이 안 일어나길 원해서 그런거! 희님이 스엠식구들 챙기는거 잘 앎! 그래서 희님 욕하는 댓글은 없었으면함 물론 저런게 너무 당연하다는 듯한 댓글들도 마찬가직느
첨부터 만들지 말았어야져..
휘원 진짜 사람들 보면 유독 연옌들한테 잣대가 넘 빡센듯ㅠㅠㅠ
@@y_sherry 그니까요.. 희철오빠가 무례하긴 했는데 몇몇 사람들이 너무 심하게 욕하는거 같아요... 희님은 더심한것도 듣는데 자긴 그냥 넘어가니까 태민님도 그럴줄 안거 아닐까요? 희님은 20살부터 들었고 태민님은 13살정도? 부터 들었으니까요
내이름은누 희님 말고도 스엠식구들 우리 이니들 잘 챙겨주는거 보이는데 욕먹어서 속상쓰ㅠㅠ 요번 신동님도 그렇구...ㅠ
태민이 착해서 다 받아주고 그러는데ㅠ이쁘다고 저런식으로 놀리는거 개싫음
넌 남자도 아니면서 싫은지
아닌지 어케아냐
우치하시스이 원래 여성스럽다, 여자같다 이런 워딩은 성차별적 발언일뿐더러 태민이도 저 당시엔 달갑지않아함
ㄹㅇ 여자같다는 말도 싫고 그게 조롱거리가 되는 게 역겹다고
태민이가 별로라고 항상 말했어 데뷔때부터
나재민내연녀 그럼 보이쉬라는 말도 남성 차별적이냐?
김희철이랑 닮은 김희철 착한버전이였다는게 확실해보이는 우리 태민이 이쁘게 잘생긴 얼굴❤🧡💛💚💙💜
아 이태민 박력기염뽀짝섹시프리티멋짐 도대체 뭐가 더 있어?
여러분 서울가요대상 인기상에 태민 투표 한번씩이라도 해주세요 !!ㅠㅠ
Heechul adored Taemin and I love seeing Taemin being tease, he is so cute.
Taemin's hips don't lie.
경후니 😍😍😍
Heechul is so funny 😭 I absolutely love him, we should all treasure him for being himself and breaking stereotypes in a country like South Korea 💙
태민이 성격좋네
Heechul being savage hahaha...so cute 😂😂😅😄
I think Taemin got the most screen time. Every single video I click is about him.
2:10 생각보다 강하니까 아 이거 어떡하냐래ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ자기가 더 놀랐어ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
아 졸라 빻은 소리 정성스레 해대는 영어 댓글들 보다가 맑은 정신 바른 생각 가진 한국인들 댓글보면 사랑스러워서 뽑뽀해주고 시펑ㅠ기엽고 소듕한 태민이 더 예쁜말만 듣게 해주고 싶은게 당연한거 아냐??이태민 칭찬길만 걸엉ㅠ🤍
ㅇㅈ ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ진짜 다 김희철 팬인가봐 잘못힌거 맞는데 왜 커버침?
Am i the only one who see all of the comment is about not to overact on how Heechul tease Taemin but don't see people overacted comments..😂😂
ikr lmfao
Same!
Ikr wtf i kept on scrolling down and i still havent seen one
True that, why they're the ones overreacting instead. There's not a single hate comment here 😅
All the korean ones tho... they r a totally different matter...
Everyone’s criticising heechul n stuff
이태민이랑 김희철 약간 비슷한 느낌인데 달라 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 근데 둘다 이뻐 ㅠㅠㅜ 왜 예쁘냐고 오빠들 ㅜㅠㅠㅠㅠ
heechul is the best hhh♡♡♡♡
2:05 와 이렇게 보니까 탬니랑 김희철이랑 진짜 닮았다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 착한 희철 들어왔다는 말 진짜였네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Don't comment if you don't know heechul or basically Korean humour they joke like that and heechul is super close with taemin so it doesn't matter
The scene was funny but whenever the camera would focus on Jonghyun I'm feeling guilty for laughing and start to tear up. 😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
yes Whenever I see him really cry 😭😭😭😭😭💔
I hope one day we can all remember him happily and without tears. He'd want that. 😊
.. why would you feel guilty for having a good time ? Literally, jonghyun doesnt want anyone crying bc of him, be happy. Hed want that
Why?
don't feel guilty. "my love has no casket and your heart should be moving on" he wouldn't want us to be sad. ik it hurts, heck it still does, but just try to keep in mind that jonghyun would have probably been also laughing if he watched this again.
I came here with the wish to see him smile.
#kimjonghuynrestinpeace
💙Look at our Angel Baby Jonghyun... Smiling, laughing, looking like ABSOLUTE PERFECTION!!💚
ㅋ 이거 다시봐도 레전드임. 전부다 레전드지만
김희철은 본인도 데뷔 이후 활동 초반까지 예쁘장하게 생겼다는 이유로 게이냐는둥의 말들 싫어했으면서 본인이 놀리네
진짜 자기도 싫은 걸 왜 남한테 하냐고;;ㅠㅠ
I just love Taemin reaction every time they teasing him ♥️💚😍👑
태민이나 성종이 같은 보이그룹 막내들한테 아형, 비틀즈코드 같은 프로그램에 무례하게 행동하는 출연자들 때문에 보면서 눈쌀 찌푸려진 거 한 두번 아님. 태민이도 본인이 싫어하는 거 티내고 성종이도 멤버들 표정 굳는 영상도 있는데 정말 예의없고 무례함.
아 이태민 이 날 진짜 ㄹㅈㄷ임 미치겠어 흑발? 너무 잘어울리고 흑발에 교복? 걍 사람 돌아버림 웃지마 진짜 웃을 때마다 심장 쿵쿵 떨어짐 이제 깰 대가리도 없다 이태민 하
ㅇㅇ 진심 멋짐.
탬니는 착해서 다 받아주지만 여기 샤월은 그렇지 않다.
Taemin's so cute and lovely 💜
2:05 민쫄 ㅋㄱㅋㄲㅋㄱㅋㄱㅋㄲㄲㅋㄱㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅈㄴ 귀여워ㅠ
김희철ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ태민이예쁘게생겨서 어쩔수없넼
Taemin to his hyungs 0:37 screaming "DON'T LAUGH!" hahaha so cuteeee!! ♥
Taemin is so cute :)