Let me get this straight: A cover band that very few people have ever heard of is suing some figure skaters because the skaters used their cover version of a song made famous Eric Burdon and the Animals? BTW, the song itself is an old folk song that dates back at least 200 years or more. Before the Animals, it had been done by Bob Dylan, Lead Belly, Woodie Guthrie and others. But the Heathens version, after the into sounds a lot like the Animals version, which today is still the definitive version in most people's minds.
so after reading about this and now hearing THEIR version I'm wondering if they are using this complaint to bring them and their music to the forefront since they haven't had a lot of press before (well at least none I've seen)? I like their version and can imagine it being skated to but gotta say the Animals is my favorite.
If anything, the use of this song in the Olympics was a godsend to this band. I guess the frivolous lawsuit will garner even more attenrion to an otherwise unknown band. It's pathetic.
Suing for the ice dancers giving their music worldwide attention. I never would have heard of this group if not for the Olympics. I wonder how their sales did after the oresentation
That's how the music industry works. You use their music, you pay. I'm sure it helped their sales. I remember back in the 80s music industry officials came through town and put an end to us playing CDs in our store unless we paid. We could play the radio, as the stations all pay to play artists music.
And to get more attention threaten to sue. Everybody goes on UA-cam to listen to it . Not a bad version maybe they’ll sell a few million copies on Apple Music.
Thoroughly UNIMPRESSED by this groups version of the song. There are a hundred other covers of it here on UA-cam that are better that this version. They should be jumping for joy that the skaters used their weak version.
All figure skating music has submitted in advance by skaters in upper levels to USFS for clearance at the beginning of every year's competition season so the proper rights can be obtained: since the music is broadcast inside the arena, on TV etc. Either someone at USFS dropped the ball or this is frivolous.
Thank you. This is the comment I was looking for. I find it hard to believe the athletes themselves have to track down the artists and ask permission to use their songs. That's what all these Publishing Companies and things are for? To sort all that stuff out so that eventually the money flows to the right people?
I mean they did wright their own music. That’s how the song got a copyright. Yeah the lyrics go back over a hundred years but the actual music they were playing is unique and written by them. The Animals had a copyright for their cover as I’m sure many other artists who covered this song did. Get a better argument.
@@wildwesley9328 they're suing over a cover. That sounds like trash. It being used in the Olympics gave them publicity. For their trash. They should be thankful and not greedy. Now all they have is social suicide.
There are two parts to every song: the publishing (the composition) and the master (the recording). Even if they don't own all the publishing (and they own at least some since the intro is their own composition and it's their own arrangement), they certainly own the master and have the right to enforce their copyright.
Although I do think the Heavy Young Heathens' rendition of this song is well done, it doesn't compare to the Animals' version. Heathens, you should be proud and honored your song was featured in competition in the Olympics, not butt hurt and whining!!! I'll bet it raised the amount of listeners greatly and your group profiting from this. Maybe you should take a step back, breathe and maybe smell a rose or two
I understand that the Heavy Young Heathens are suing NBC and 2 Americans for using this song. Personally, I hope it is a publicity stunt. I never heard of these guys until I read about this lawsuit. The exposure from the Olympics was worldwide and I guarantee that millions more people know about these guys and their song than before. It tracks the Animals' version pretty closely outside of the background vocals.
@@curtisrodriguez938 I think the same thing about the people doing reaction videos to songs that get blocked. Most of them are songs many young people have never even heard of the group. Why would you not want younger people to know about your music?
I find it hard to understand how a cover of a song perhaps 100 or more years old can obtain copyright. As many that sing a cover of various songs make subtle changes to enhance their style, vocal range etc. That being said I still enjoyed this version.
The Post office made a stamp of the statue of libery but instead of using a picture of the real thing, they used a phote of a verison someone created. The artist won 3.5 million. Nothing surprising me when lawers are involved.
Classical orchestras that record pieces written 600 years ago (Renaissance) own their recordings, even if the heirs of the composer of the music itself are not protected. You can use the score without paying any of the orchestras who recorded it, but you cannot use a specific recording without paying.
@@soniatrapp109 It's an old folk song. The Animals recorded a popular cover version of the song in 1964. Bob Dylan recorded his cover version of the song in 1962 released with his debut album. But, the song goes back to the 1930s and probably earlier.
A person's unique expression of information in the public domain is covered by copyright. By analogy, an arrangement of words in the public domain can become a copyrighted book or poem.
Everyone is complaining about this group who filed a lawsuit because this song they covered was played during the Olympics without their permission. This is precisely great marketing. Now, they have the worlds attention. Free publicity, and advertisement. Well done, smart.
The world can listen to it free here but heaven forbid a few underpaid athletes use it for a skating routine. This easily offended & entitled new Gen should be ashamed of themselves but I suspect that this is a cheesy effort to reignite an otherwise stagnant career and low sales of their work if you can call this their "work" but hey it works... everybody gets talking about it maybe they'll sell a few songs or maybe lose thousands of sales for being so cheesy. with the state of the world right now it's unbelievable this is what they take issue with. I would never pay a cent for their songs based on this alone. Btw I've heard better Originals by 14 year olds on America's Got Talent.
I said this before and I’ll say it again. They have a copyright on this version because the music they play is original and unique to this song. The Animals version was also a cover and they have a copyright in place for that song. They get paid anytime this song is played too. These, “they should be honored one proud arguments” rub me the wrong way because they are just like the arguments people try to make to pay artists with “exposure.” What’s the point of having a copyright if anyone, especially a worldwide stage, can just ignore it.
It was a cover when the Animals did it ... The song was first collected in Appalachia in the 1930s, but probably has its roots in traditional English folk song.
The animals have the more well know popular version of this song, when really they didn’t make it sadly it was only a cover. But don’t be surprised if you didn’t know that a lot of people don’t either.
So let's get this right. This band is suing for a song they clearly borrowed from a lot of bands. Singing in the style of Eric Burden, organ solo, I think a little dark side of the moon in there. Not to mention Dylan, leadbelly and the countless others that have added to this songs provenance. It's a good version and they have some talent. But they got an audience bigger than most people dream of. They should be sending those skaters flowers.
They are suing because they composed and recorded this work. If I ask some kids to cut my grass, I don't pay the person who installed it, or cut it before.
@@davecrooks7357 that's a great point, I agree. I hadn't thought of that. However, for myself, I'm not sure if money (eg: US Dollar units, or measured otherwise) is the best way to measure the value of art/beautiful creation. I agree with the initial comment's point even more I think - those musicians should be sending those skaters flowers, not papers.
@@davecrooks7357 in today's day and age, it's not that much work to record a song. Composing a song still takes some work, that is no small task. But I think the task size is significantly diminished when you are composing based on the the artistic model that musicians before them contributed to our (humanity's) great opus of arts.
@@davecrooks7357 composed? No. Recorded, yea, I guess they wasted their time there. They should be grateful for publicity that could have kickstarted their career but settled for social suicide.
@@R0me0316 Yeah, bro, just walk up to an artist and tell them to their face they should be grateful they deserve no compensation for their work if you used it without permission. Because you gave them E X P O S U R E. You don't sound like an artist to me, pal, and most certainly don't understand the bullshit artists deal with when entitled twerps think they can use whatever they want because it's available on the internet.
Ironic that they borrowed the song from the original performers and are upset it was used during the Olympics. So it has a different arrangement, which is cool, but its the same song. They should get over themselves and be happy with publicity they received.
And who are those "original performers"? Not the Animals for sure. This is a folk song and it's not even clear if it was originally from England, France or the USA.
They say it is their version but it's the same lyrics. This song goes back to 1925 or beyond. How can you copyright that? It's been covered by everyone, and no one ever claimed copyright. What a load. I guess Disturbed can copyright "The Sound of Silence".
Sure enough, Disturbed has rights over THEIR version of The Sound of Silence, just like any other cover band. Which is different from owning the music itself. In that case, should anyone were to use their version, they would need permission from two sources: Disturbed (as performers) and Simon & Garfunkel (as songwriters).
… how else would they have brought their name to the forefront in the music industry in such a brief time, if not by using our culture’s pass-time, litigiousness, and during the Olympics, at that.
Sueing? You should be thanking maybe even paying them. You went from obscurity to now the world knowing of you. Great rendition by the way of a great old song.
It doesn't matter if you hate the song or if it's a cover band... copyright is copyright. However suing the skaters... is dumb. They did not video record and distribute the song. It's like they are suing the wrong people... for clout?
So according to the lawsuit, the figure skaters “caused great harm” and “insults the integrity of their professional reputation”. So basically the team that used this song to become an Olympic champion in front of the entire world, is insulting to this group I’ve never heard of…? This is insulting to the skaters who made this song their art form and performed it flawlessly. Also, are they aware of what skaters actually profit, and what networks make from skating such as Peacock… hahaha so good luck with justifying owed damages!
This lawsuit seems an attempt to make money by a band who made a forgettable cover of a famous song - listen to Eric Burden, the Doors, Bob Dylan rather than this crap
Because they rewrote it and own the music which accompanies it. It is still THEIR version of the song. Just like if you played the animals version, royalties would be paid to them, or the five finger death punch version, royalties would be paid to five finger death punch. Although a cover, it is their own unique version, thus it is copyrighted.
The intro reminds me of Muse's Knights of Cydonia. The clip of which, incidentally, takes place in a western-style setting (with a sci-fi twist, but still). I wonder if both aren't referencing something else I'm not remembering, like some music by Ennio Morricone or something
They also changed the lyrics: "The Animals recorded it - and most folk versions IIRC - "My mother was a tailor, she sewed my new blue jeans" (Animals, Dylan, etc.; lyrics from musixmatch, "she sewed my Levi Jeans...") ; NOT "My mother was a trader, she sold my new blue jeans..."
Checking this out because they are suing the American olympians for using this song. You’d think they would be proud but must be more concerned about the money.
+BaconsCastle No. This song is from 1964 by the Animals (even if it's actually a cover). That's how I know it. Also, the Magnificent 7 came out in 1960. Or are you talking about the crappy remakes of both this song and movie?
After all the screaming, they actually suck at the song and then have the nerve to sue for a song they stole in a sense,(did they pay anyone royalties to remake it?) sounds a little hypocritical to me it seems.
I came to check out this song cause I saw they have a lawsuit against some figure skaters for skating to their song that they stole from a better old song in the olympics….sad …live and let live greedy F’s
They're suing not to gain monetarily but to get recognize by the public and thus increased their profile and profit from it. Honestly it's not even the best cover of this song...I'll give it 1.5 stars out of 5.
Musically, I like this version. It's different. However, the lead singer is no Eric. This song needs a bluesy voice to portray what the song is all about in my opinion. For their skating program, it was very good
I doubt they have any grounds to sue. Why if this is just a cover? I'm not familiar with how copyright works with music, but if someone in a event like the Olympics chose to use my song, I would be happy and proud, not sue.
They have a copyright on this version because the music they play is original and unique to this song. The Animals version was also a cover and they have a copyright in place for that song. These, “they should be honored one proud arguments” rub me the wrong way because they are just like the arguments people try to make to pay artists with “exposure.” What’s the point of having a copyright if anyone especially a worldwide stage can just ignore it.
@@wildwesley9328 I'm not understanding. So because someone played their music for an even, means what, exactly? What's the difference between their song being used for a dance and someone listening to their music?
@@justiceLaw0000 it’s because nbc and those that aired it profited off of it by selling advertisements (commercials). So if you use someone else intellectual property and profit off of it, they need to be compensated. I worked in radio for 10 years as a production director, making commercials. You can’t just use any song you want as background. Usually, stations subscribe to a service that allows us to pick little jingles to place behind the spoken commercial. If you used an artists song for anything other to promote say that artists concert, they could sue you
I prefer the version by The Animals, but that being said, if someone has a copyright, users need to respect that & request permission/pay royalties or licensing fees when informed of their omission. Professional figure skaters skate to music all the time, so I can't believe they don't have their legal team deal with that stuff prior to using any piece of music in competitions. Their legal team dropped the ball on this, big time.
lets start with the fact i have never heard of these guys before. That being said I find it really arrogant that they sue American figure skaters for skating to their Cover of An Animals Classic ... if these guys had half a brain they would show some class and tell everyone how flattered they are that they made it to such a large world wide audience Elton John was proud his music was used . these clowns sued.. this will backfire in spectacular fashion... Heavy Young Heathens self Cancels.
Artists deserve and are entitled compensation if they demand it for their work being used without permission. People don't get to use shit for free just because they're some elitist group. How is this a difficult concept to understand? I'd like to someday walk into your home, take your property and tell you to go screw yourself because you should be grateful I'm using your property to make something "greater".
I was curious since I didn't watch the Olympics. I can see why this would be used. I think it's a great rendition. Whatever happened to the hippies? I remember Peace & Love when I hear this in any rendition; I'm that old. It seems the people in this world have become very angry. So sad😪SMH KAS
I can't believe people are upset that they are suing. I could redraw the mona lisa, but if someone takes it and hangs it up in the smithsonian without my consent, I'd be pretty pissed too. "Its pretty good, but nowhere near as good as da Vinci's" that's good, ask da Vinci's for his version of the mona lisa then. Dont take mine
+dorketiquette Right? Weird to say she was a "traitor" or "trader" or whatever the singer said. And I think right after that he says "she sold my new blue jeans" instead of "she sewed my new blue jeans".
i think the mother in this song was a "trader", meaning she probably traded clothing for food or something..Everything else seems to be in there. They skipped a verse, but I DON'T CARE!
I much prefer the cover by Geordie (fronted by Brian Johnson of ACDC fame) - yes, even over the FFDP version. Heavy Young Heathens had better win their suit and make a killing from it given the amount of good will and free press they just flushed down the toilet on an over-produced and glitzy version of what should be a gritty song. From a legal standpoint they're entitled to compensation for their particular version, but I think they blew a golden opportunity.
people in the comments: I'm not an artist but artists should bend over to make stuff for free, publicity > paying the rent Face it, people in the olympics have plenty of money to throw around, this lawsuit isn't going to break them like it would someone who's working class. They should have just paid the artists like everyone else knows they're supposed to. Stop licking their boots.
@@cardinal8268 but not that version. That version is copyrighted and belongs to the band. Therefore they have every right to sue. They could’ve done it the right way from the beginning, and made sure the band was compensated. But someone messed up, so now they have to sue to get what was rightfully coming to them
@@adamosgood8710 as I understand it BMI handles the payments and HYH allows BMI to manage that song. USFS, NBC have that locked down; why isn't Elton John, Beyonce, Coldplay and Metallica not suing? This band's father is notorious for suing over his kids work.
@@cardinal8268 It's in the public domain, so the original creator of the song doesn't need compensation. The people performing it still deserve it for using THEIR voices, practice time, ability, instruments, equipment, recording, and editing. The same way the story Rapunzel is in the public domain but Disney will still sue the shit out of anyone using their content from Tangled.
DA-YAM! THAT was intense! The version by Eric Burdon & The Animals is my favorite...but...this...WOW! I have loved this song since I first heard it by The Animals. This group SHOULD be overjoyed and thankful that it was used at the Olympics. This gives THIS version, their version much needed recognition. I can only say that I will be checking this group out. Just a fantastic cover!
I get that people are upset by them suing, but like, if they didn’t ask for permission, and played it at a MASSIVE televised event, they have every right to sue. On top of that, to the people smugly asking if they got permission from other people to make their cover, that isn’t how copyright works, you bunch of dweebs.
Plenty of confusion in the comments here. Musicians OWN their version of a cover. It's different from having the copyright to the music itself, which is not the case in the Olympics claim. Therefore, the Heavy Young Heathens have all the right to claim ownership of their version, and sue those who use it without THEIR permission. Same as The Animals (actually only Alan Price because of some internal legal issues) own their own version, and each band or soloist who covered it owns theirs.
They should be honored never heard of them and off my list for sure Animals much better I’m a New Orleanian won’t put this group in my favorite sue the world stupid!
They got free publicity and sue these talented skaters for using a song someone else came up with. They needed to use others music in order to be known in the first place? None of that makes sense. Shows their character. I'd never spend money on them. Shame on them.
never , ever heard of them until the controversy and get sued for ANYTHING these days and as soon as I click off of this I will never hear them again UNLESS there is another controversy
Who are these guys? Never heard of them. I would like to know, how did they obtained the rights to this song? I think that Eric Burdon should sue these guys for copying the version that Eric Burdon and the Animals used, it's a better version anyway.
The only way these hacks could get paid by making "music". F them. My only hope is they didn't buy the rights from The Animals so they end up getting counter-sued...
The Animals did it MUCH better. These guys are going for a "Big Sound" and it just doesn't fit the lyrics of the song. In this composition, the woman just vocalizing is the centerpiece/focus, and the lyrics come across as an afterthought. In American Bandstand terms; "It doesn't have a beat, and you can only ballroom dance to it, so I'll give it a 20"
Hooray for lawsuits! Without it I would not have heard and loved this version. Do we need to compare? Bob Dylan was great, the Animals an absolute milestone, but this ain't bad for new generations? Big deal about lawsuits: In the US nobody gets through the day without suing someone, what's new? Try the IT industry: use one finger gesture to do something - instant patent. Use two fingers? New patent. Sneeze while working? Probably a patent. too.
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Let me get this straight: A cover band that very few people have ever heard of is suing some figure skaters because the skaters used their cover version of a song made famous Eric Burdon and the Animals? BTW, the song itself is an old folk song that dates back at least 200 years or more. Before the Animals, it had been done by Bob Dylan, Lead Belly, Woodie Guthrie and others. But the Heathens version, after the into sounds a lot like the Animals version, which today is still the definitive version in most people's minds.
Dad's a lawyer, nough said.
Douche move by a douche pair
Yep, and this version sucks anyway ....
@@johncarroll9489 you are right. Dad is another version of Trump. I hope he loses for his sons
@@BobbyLeeCarroll its like remixing the Animals version but everything you added was poop.
so after reading about this and now hearing THEIR version I'm wondering if they are using this complaint to bring them and their music to the forefront since they haven't had a lot of press before (well at least none I've seen)? I like their version and can imagine it being skated to but gotta say the Animals is my favorite.
This version is not even close to the animals version. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t know music.
that's the only reason why I searched for it... I regret it.
If anything, the use of this song in the Olympics was a godsend to this band. I guess the frivolous lawsuit will garner even more attenrion to an otherwise unknown band. It's pathetic.
@@krzykris this band is trash
@@shadowarcher3966 FFDP did it better
Suing for the ice dancers giving their music worldwide attention. I never would have heard of this group if not for the Olympics. I wonder how their sales did after the oresentation
These guys have shown that they are a couple of the worlds biggest D’Bags
That's how the music industry works. You use their music, you pay. I'm sure it helped their sales. I remember back in the 80s music industry officials came through town and put an end to us playing CDs in our store unless we paid. We could play the radio, as the stations all pay to play artists music.
Well the lawsuit added a whole additional avenue for attention. I never heard it before the suit dropped and I looked it up.
And to get more attention threaten to sue. Everybody goes on UA-cam to listen to it . Not a bad version maybe they’ll sell a few million copies on Apple Music.
I thought the same thing. I won't be buying any of their music. I don't like greedy people.
Thoroughly UNIMPRESSED by this groups version of the song. There are a hundred other covers of it here on UA-cam that are better that this version. They should be jumping for joy that the skaters used their weak version.
I second that.
They should pay the skaters to play this horrible cover.
Agree
I would think that they would be honored to have Olympic champions use their cover.
But they achieved their goal, we are all here talking about them and listening to their bad cover version!
Wow! What a bunch of babies! Never will I download one of their songs! They should be happy the figure skaters used their song!
All figure skating music has submitted in advance by skaters in upper levels to USFS for clearance at the beginning of every year's competition season so the proper rights can be obtained: since the music is broadcast inside the arena, on TV etc. Either someone at USFS dropped the ball or this is frivolous.
Thank you. This is the comment I was looking for. I find it hard to believe the athletes themselves have to track down the artists and ask permission to use their songs. That's what all these Publishing Companies and things are for? To sort all that stuff out so that eventually the money flows to the right people?
This song has been covered by various artists in the past. Perhaps it was credited to the wrong artist.
I'm thinking it's not only frivolous, it's also a greedy attention seeking ploy.
The lawsuit worked. It got them the attention they were looking for. They’ll drop the lawsuit in a few weeks and it’ll get them more attention again.
Hey, Heavy Young Heathens, write your own music. Then if someone uses it without your permission, you can sue them.
I mean they did wright their own music. That’s how the song got a copyright. Yeah the lyrics go back over a hundred years but the actual music they were playing is unique and written by them. The Animals had a copyright for their cover as I’m sure many other artists who covered this song did. Get a better argument.
@@wildwesley9328 or they could get better at not covering songs.... Unique or not... It's still a cover that has been over covered.
@@wildwesley9328 they're suing over a cover. That sounds like trash. It being used in the Olympics gave them publicity. For their trash. They should be thankful and not greedy. Now all they have is social suicide.
There are two parts to every song: the publishing (the composition) and the master (the recording). Even if they don't own all the publishing (and they own at least some since the intro is their own composition and it's their own arrangement), they certainly own the master and have the right to enforce their copyright.
Can't believe anyone would want to hear this version, skating or not. I love Eric Burden's epic voice.
this may be the WORST cover of a cover in thebhistory of music... This is complete tripe.
@@dss2856 boy you said it....they should be sure for this hideous cover and sentenced to never cover again lol
Horrified....The House of the Rising Sun will always be a song by Eric Burdon and The Animals! This is crap!
Although I do think the Heavy Young Heathens' rendition of this song is well done, it doesn't compare to the Animals' version. Heathens, you should be proud and honored your song was featured in competition in the Olympics, not butt hurt and whining!!! I'll bet it raised the amount of listeners greatly and your group profiting from this. Maybe you should take a step back, breathe and maybe smell a rose or two
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Exactly!
I would greatly disagree with "well done" but they should have been beyond grateful.
Came here because of the 2022 Olympics ice skating competition, a couple used this song. Never heard this version until now.
They should be glad it was used at the Olympics. Never heard of it before. Now of course everyone wants to hear it.
That's why I'm here to see what song they're talking about.
@Say Soun same. House of The Rising Sun by The Animals was the first version I heard back in the 60's.
I understand that the Heavy Young Heathens are suing NBC and 2 Americans for using this song. Personally, I hope it is a publicity stunt. I never heard of these guys until I read about this lawsuit. The exposure from the Olympics was worldwide and I guarantee that millions more people know about these guys and their song than before. It tracks the Animals' version pretty closely outside of the background vocals.
Ikr, never heard of them or this version. And now that I've heard it, the Westworld version is still better.
@@curtisrodriguez938 I think the same thing about the people doing reaction videos to songs that get blocked. Most of them are songs many young people have never even heard of the group. Why would you not want younger people to know about your music?
I find it hard to understand how a cover of a song perhaps 100 or more years old can obtain copyright. As many that sing a cover of various songs make subtle changes to enhance their style, vocal range etc. That being said I still enjoyed this version.
The Post office made a stamp of the statue of libery but instead of using a picture of the real thing, they used a phote of a verison someone created. The artist won 3.5 million. Nothing surprising me when lawers are involved.
Song is from the 1960s done by The Amimals.so not 100 years old lol
Classical orchestras that record pieces written 600 years ago (Renaissance) own their recordings, even if the heirs of the composer of the music itself are not protected. You can use the score without paying any of the orchestras who recorded it, but you cannot use a specific recording without paying.
@@soniatrapp109 It's an old folk song. The Animals recorded a popular cover version of the song in 1964. Bob Dylan recorded his cover version of the song in 1962 released with his debut album. But, the song goes back to the 1930s and probably earlier.
A person's unique expression of information in the public domain is covered by copyright.
By analogy, an arrangement of words in the public domain can become a copyrighted book or poem.
Everyone is complaining about this group who filed a lawsuit because this song they covered was played during the Olympics without their permission. This is precisely great marketing. Now, they have the worlds attention. Free publicity, and advertisement. Well done, smart.
This version is not something I would want to listen to more than once!!!!
I couldn't even make it through once.
@@lgr005 me neither
I couldn't even finish it
The world can listen to it free here but heaven forbid a few underpaid athletes use it for a skating routine. This easily offended & entitled new Gen should be ashamed of themselves but I suspect that this is a cheesy effort to reignite an otherwise stagnant career and low sales of their work if you can call this their "work" but hey it works... everybody gets talking about it maybe they'll sell a few songs or maybe lose thousands of sales for being so cheesy. with the state of the world right now it's unbelievable this is what they take issue with. I would never pay a cent for their songs based on this alone. Btw I've heard better Originals by 14 year olds on America's Got Talent.
@@lgr005 I turned it off after bout 30 seconds. 30 seconds I'll never get back...
The band should be honored that their version was chosen by the skaters. Honestly the skaters should sue the band for being jerks.
I said this before and I’ll say it again. They have a copyright on this version because the music they play is original and unique to this song. The Animals version was also a cover and they have a copyright in place for that song. They get paid anytime this song is played too. These, “they should be honored one proud arguments” rub me the wrong way because they are just like the arguments people try to make to pay artists with “exposure.” What’s the point of having a copyright if anyone, especially a worldwide stage, can just ignore it.
Great song by The Animals!
It was a cover when the Animals did it ... The song was first collected in Appalachia in the 1930s, but probably has its roots in traditional English folk song.
The animals have the more well know popular version of this song, when really they didn’t make it sadly it was only a cover. But don’t be surprised if you didn’t know that a lot of people don’t either.
So let's get this right. This band is suing for a song they clearly borrowed from a lot of bands. Singing in the style of Eric Burden, organ solo, I think a little dark side of the moon in there. Not to mention Dylan, leadbelly and the countless others that have added to this songs provenance. It's a good version and they have some talent. But they got an audience bigger than most people dream of. They should be sending those skaters flowers.
They are suing because they composed and recorded this work. If I ask some kids to cut my grass, I don't pay the person who installed it, or cut it before.
@@davecrooks7357 that's a great point, I agree. I hadn't thought of that.
However, for myself, I'm not sure if money (eg: US Dollar units, or measured otherwise) is the best way to measure the value of art/beautiful creation. I agree with the initial comment's point even more I think - those musicians should be sending those skaters flowers, not papers.
@@davecrooks7357 in today's day and age, it's not that much work to record a song.
Composing a song still takes some work, that is no small task. But I think the task size is significantly diminished when you are composing based on the the artistic model that musicians before them contributed to our (humanity's) great opus of arts.
@@davecrooks7357 composed? No. Recorded, yea, I guess they wasted their time there. They should be grateful for publicity that could have kickstarted their career but settled for social suicide.
@@R0me0316 Yeah, bro, just walk up to an artist and tell them to their face they should be grateful they deserve no compensation for their work if you used it without permission. Because you gave them E X P O S U R E.
You don't sound like an artist to me, pal, and most certainly don't understand the bullshit artists deal with when entitled twerps think they can use whatever they want because it's available on the internet.
I should Sue them for having to listen to this shit redo.
Ironic that they borrowed the song from the original performers and are upset it was used during the Olympics. So it has a different arrangement, which is cool, but its the same song. They should get over themselves and be happy with publicity they received.
And who are those "original performers"? Not the Animals for sure. This is a folk song and it's not even clear if it was originally from England, France or the USA.
They say it is their version but it's the same lyrics. This song goes back to 1925 or beyond. How can you copyright that? It's been covered by everyone, and no one ever claimed copyright. What a load. I guess Disturbed can copyright "The Sound of Silence".
Sure enough, Disturbed has rights over THEIR version of The Sound of Silence, just like any other cover band. Which is different from owning the music itself. In that case, should anyone were to use their version, they would need permission from two sources: Disturbed (as performers) and Simon & Garfunkel (as songwriters).
Magnificent Seven Trailer.......
+JoeCamp44 yeah
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… how else would they have brought their name to the forefront in the music industry in such a brief time, if not by using our culture’s pass-time, litigiousness, and during the Olympics, at that.
Sueing? You should be thanking maybe even paying them. You went from obscurity to now the world knowing of you. Great rendition by the way of a great old song.
The lawsuit worked. We’re all here clicking on the link.
It doesn't matter if you hate the song or if it's a cover band... copyright is copyright. However suing the skaters... is dumb. They did not video record and distribute the song. It's like they are suing the wrong people... for clout?
Be grateful heathens.
What a lark, nobody has heard of this 7 year old cover. They are claiming great harm but the exposure has pulled this band out from under a rock.
Never heard of them till now.
Heavy Young who...? My, my.... Soooo creative. (rolls eyes)
So according to the lawsuit, the figure skaters “caused great harm” and “insults the integrity of their professional reputation”. So basically the team that used this song to become an Olympic champion in front of the entire world, is insulting to this group I’ve never heard of…? This is insulting to the skaters who made this song their art form and performed it flawlessly. Also, are they aware of what skaters actually profit, and what networks make from skating such as Peacock… hahaha so good luck with justifying owed damages!
They finished sixth. Unless the Chinese pair did the same thing.
Love this Version. Rock On!
“Hay s8ers, u Kent use our song! Were gunna Sue!”
Conglaturation. I didn’t know who the HYH were until now. That’s how unimportant you are.
Before Skate Gate '22 the last mention here was 5 years ago.
They should be glad they used it because no one has heard of them. Now this could have boosted their sales.
Yep they lost the opportunity it makes me to never buy nothing of them for sure!
This lawsuit seems an attempt to make money by a band who made a forgettable cover of a famous song - listen to Eric Burden, the Doors, Bob Dylan rather than this crap
Why are they allowed to sue over copyright infringement when this song was originally made popular by the Animals in 1964?
Because they rewrote it and own the music which accompanies it. It is still THEIR version of the song. Just like if you played the animals version, royalties would be paid to them, or the five finger death punch version, royalties would be paid to five finger death punch. Although a cover, it is their own unique version, thus it is copyrighted.
The intro reminds me of Muse's Knights of Cydonia. The clip of which, incidentally, takes place in a western-style setting (with a sci-fi twist, but still). I wonder if both aren't referencing something else I'm not remembering, like some music by Ennio Morricone or something
muse also covered this song :)
Yes, it seems like the borrowed from the Animals, the Muse and also from Pink Floyd us and them.
I’m here because of the lawsuit they filed against NBC and skating partners.
They also changed the lyrics: "The Animals recorded it - and most folk versions IIRC - "My mother was a tailor, she sewed my new blue jeans" (Animals, Dylan, etc.; lyrics from musixmatch, "she sewed my Levi Jeans...") ; NOT "My mother was a trader, she sold my new blue jeans..."
Thanks, I noticed that too.
Checking this out because they are suing the American olympians for using this song. You’d think they would be proud but must be more concerned about the money.
Anybody else here from the Magnificent Seven trailer?
No.
+BaconsCastle yep
+BaconsCastle , Yes! Such an amazing song!
+BaconsCastle Yes
+BaconsCastle No. This song is from 1964 by the Animals (even if it's actually a cover). That's how I know it. Also, the Magnificent 7 came out in 1960. Or are you talking about the crappy remakes of both this song and movie?
You would have figured they might have at least waited for the final ceremony to end before announcing the lawsuit. Patrioti$m. at it's finest.
they don't even own this song to sue
After all the screaming, they actually suck at the song and then have the nerve to sue for a song they stole in a sense,(did they pay anyone royalties to remake it?) sounds a little hypocritical to me it seems.
I came to check out this song cause I saw they have a lawsuit against some figure skaters for skating to their song that they stole from a better old song in the olympics….sad …live and let live greedy F’s
I had this down loaded from spotify and then it just disappeared from my playlist now I can't find it, does anyone know why and how I can get it back?
They're suing not to gain monetarily but to get recognize by the public and thus increased their profile and profit from it.
Honestly it's not even the best cover of this song...I'll give it 1.5 stars out of 5.
I think you’re being generous. The female wailing through almost the entire song is annoying. I don’t like much about it at all
No one will ever do it better than the Animals.
Musically, I like this version. It's different. However, the lead singer is no Eric. This song needs a bluesy voice to portray what the song is all about in my opinion. For their skating program, it was very good
Looks like I'm the only one who came here by way of the 'Revenge of the Green Dragons' trailer.
who else is here kuz their mom couldnt keep their legs closed?
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I thought that this was a old song. I like it from long time ago.
I doubt they have any grounds to sue. Why if this is just a cover? I'm not familiar with how copyright works with music, but if someone in a event like the Olympics chose to use my song, I would be happy and proud, not sue.
They have a copyright on this version because the music they play is original and unique to this song. The Animals version was also a cover and they have a copyright in place for that song. These, “they should be honored one proud arguments” rub me the wrong way because they are just like the arguments people try to make to pay artists with “exposure.” What’s the point of having a copyright if anyone especially a worldwide stage can just ignore it.
@@wildwesley9328 I'm not understanding. So because someone played their music for an even, means what, exactly? What's the difference between their song being used for a dance and someone listening to their music?
@@justiceLaw0000 it’s because nbc and those that aired it profited off of it by selling advertisements (commercials). So if you use someone else intellectual property and profit off of it, they need to be compensated. I worked in radio for 10 years as a production director, making commercials. You can’t just use any song you want as background. Usually, stations subscribe to a service that allows us to pick little jingles to place behind the spoken commercial. If you used an artists song for anything other to promote say that artists concert, they could sue you
Listen to the Pentatonix if you want to hear a GREAT version, listen to this if you want the opposite.
The Animals did it better
Walls of Jericho did it 2nd best.
@@Calyptus187 The Animals were great and I was pointing out a great newer version.
Who else is here because of The Magnificent 7?.
im here!
This is an old blues folk song originally sung by a woman. The Animals did the most famous version and switched the genders. This is a good version.
Long debunked theory. It's a folk song of which there are multiple versions, sung from each gender's perspective.
Horrible remake
I prefer the version by The Animals, but that being said, if someone has a copyright, users need to respect that & request permission/pay royalties or licensing fees when informed of their omission. Professional figure skaters skate to music all the time, so I can't believe they don't have their legal team deal with that stuff prior to using any piece of music in competitions. Their legal team dropped the ball on this, big time.
lets start with the fact i have never heard of these guys before. That being said I find it really arrogant that they sue American figure skaters for skating to their Cover of An Animals Classic ... if these guys had half a brain they would show some class and tell everyone how flattered they are that they made it to such a large world wide audience Elton John was proud his music was used . these clowns sued.. this will backfire in spectacular fashion... Heavy Young Heathens self Cancels.
Artists deserve and are entitled compensation if they demand it for their work being used without permission. People don't get to use shit for free just because they're some elitist group. How is this a difficult concept to understand?
I'd like to someday walk into your home, take your property and tell you to go screw yourself because you should be grateful I'm using your property to make something "greater".
I was curious since I didn't watch the Olympics. I can see why this would be used. I think it's a great rendition. Whatever happened to the hippies? I remember Peace & Love when I hear this in any rendition; I'm that old. It seems the people in this world have become very angry. So sad😪SMH KAS
they will receive a counter suit for distribution and exposure they were made famous as this is not an original only a version of an old song
Great version. Pay them if you use it.
Loved the olde; now, Love th neew! Many Thanks Friend!(Much success to you!)
Been searching it on net for month, but could not get it!
Thanx for sharing Bro :)
The irony when it comes to this. This “band” complains about copyright violations when they are doing a cover of this song. Time to grow up!
They should of used 5 finger death punch version. They would of been ok with it and it's way better.
Is this on Spotify???? Can't seem to find it but ya never know.
Yeah. Just go under the Heavy Young Heathens song category and scroll a little.
wtf are these guys? They should be grateful for the publicity (it's worth a fortune) rather than suing anyone. Besides, earlier versions are better.
Could you do an edit of previzla vs maul. It would be for a project, I just really liked the sound track
I can't believe people are upset that they are suing. I could redraw the mona lisa, but if someone takes it and hangs it up in the smithsonian without my consent, I'd be pretty pissed too. "Its pretty good, but nowhere near as good as da Vinci's" that's good, ask da Vinci's for his version of the mona lisa then. Dont take mine
Never heard this version until I read about the skaters. This version sucks, I see why they're butthurt. Now everyone knows how shitty their music is.
mother was a tailor...a tailor.
You noticed too?
+dorketiquette Right? Weird to say she was a "traitor" or "trader" or whatever the singer said. And I think right after that he says "she sold my new blue jeans" instead of "she sewed my new blue jeans".
Mikeztarp i think they just got the lyrics mixed up or something because that doesn't make as much sense really lol
a number of the lyrics have been modified from earlier versions. still solid.
i think the mother in this song was a "trader", meaning she probably traded clothing for food or something..Everything else seems to be in there. They skipped a verse, but I DON'T CARE!
I much prefer the cover by Geordie (fronted by Brian Johnson of ACDC fame) - yes, even over the FFDP version. Heavy Young Heathens had better win their suit and make a killing from it given the amount of good will and free press they just flushed down the toilet on an over-produced and glitzy version of what should be a gritty song. From a legal standpoint they're entitled to compensation for their particular version, but I think they blew a golden opportunity.
people in the comments: I'm not an artist but artists should bend over to make stuff for free, publicity > paying the rent
Face it, people in the olympics have plenty of money to throw around, this lawsuit isn't going to break them like it would someone who's working class. They should have just paid the artists like everyone else knows they're supposed to. Stop licking their boots.
It's covered in blanket agreements by networks. Olympians don't make money. The song is 100 yrs old and in the public domain.
@@cardinal8268 but not that version. That version is copyrighted and belongs to the band. Therefore they have every right to sue. They could’ve done it the right way from the beginning, and made sure the band was compensated. But someone messed up, so now they have to sue to get what was rightfully coming to them
@@adamosgood8710 as I understand it BMI handles the payments and HYH allows BMI to manage that song. USFS, NBC have that locked down; why isn't Elton John, Beyonce, Coldplay and Metallica not suing? This band's father is notorious for suing over his kids work.
@@cardinal8268 It's in the public domain, so the original creator of the song doesn't need compensation. The people performing it still deserve it for using THEIR voices, practice time, ability, instruments, equipment, recording, and editing. The same way the story Rapunzel is in the public domain but Disney will still sue the shit out of anyone using their content from Tangled.
DA-YAM! THAT was intense! The version by Eric Burdon & The Animals is my favorite...but...this...WOW! I have loved this song since I first heard it by The Animals. This group SHOULD be overjoyed and thankful that it was used at the Olympics. This gives THIS version, their version much needed recognition. I can only say that I will be checking this group out. Just a fantastic cover!
great
I get that people are upset by them suing, but like, if they didn’t ask for permission, and played it at a MASSIVE televised event, they have every right to sue. On top of that, to the people smugly asking if they got permission from other people to make their cover, that isn’t how copyright works, you bunch of dweebs.
Plenty of confusion in the comments here. Musicians OWN their version of a cover. It's different from having the copyright to the music itself, which is not the case in the Olympics claim. Therefore, the Heavy Young Heathens have all the right to claim ownership of their version, and sue those who use it without THEIR permission. Same as The Animals (actually only Alan Price because of some internal legal issues) own their own version, and each band or soloist who covered it owns theirs.
They should be honored never heard of them and off my list for sure Animals much better I’m a New Orleanian won’t put this group in my favorite sue the world stupid!
@@eileencoleman1840 "they should be honored they got stolen from. I would have never known about them if they werent robbed"
Are the chord progression to this song I always give to beginning guitar players to practice the changes it's really a good one.
1:47! holy smokes
i think we just blew a fuse...
I'm here because of the Olympics lawsuit.
They got free publicity and sue these talented skaters for using a song someone else came up with. They needed to use others music in order to be known in the first place? None of that makes sense. Shows their character. I'd never spend money on them. Shame on them.
Sure will. Thanks !
where did u buy, i can't find it on Google play.
never , ever heard of them until the controversy and get sued for ANYTHING these days and as soon as I click off of this I will never hear them again UNLESS there is another controversy
Who are these guys? Never heard of them. I would like to know, how did they obtained the rights to this song? I think that Eric Burdon should sue these guys for copying the version that Eric Burdon and the Animals used, it's a better version anyway.
The only way these hacks could get paid by making "music". F them. My only hope is they didn't buy the rights from The Animals so they end up getting counter-sued...
Sounds like a figure skating song
The Animals did it MUCH better. These guys are going for a "Big Sound" and it just doesn't fit the lyrics of the song. In this composition, the woman just vocalizing is the centerpiece/focus, and the lyrics come across as an afterthought.
In American Bandstand terms; "It doesn't have a beat, and you can only ballroom dance to it, so I'll give it a 20"
T You know where you can put your version. You should be honored! All about the buck. Old version much better anyway. Unreal.
This song was used to well in the Magnificent Seven Trailer...
elle est trop bien !!!!!
They should be happy they brought recognition to a song they COVERED cause it’s doesn’t seem all that popular otherwise.
Who else came from magnificent 7 trailer?
+Infinity Remix ayyy same
Hooray for lawsuits! Without it I would not have heard and loved this version. Do we need to compare? Bob Dylan was great, the Animals an absolute milestone, but this ain't bad for new generations? Big deal about lawsuits: In the US nobody gets through the day without suing someone, what's new? Try the IT industry: use one finger gesture to do something - instant patent. Use two fingers? New patent. Sneeze while working? Probably a patent. too.
war is war someone is gaining something like money , power , property ,bragging rights and it doesn't end . loopholes
from what movie is the pictures in video ? I meen the asian movie not Magnificent 7
revenge of the green dragons
the car pic is from the Need For Speed movie
who is this women singing at the beginning?
I WAS wondering what happened to milli vanilli
Thomas Oliver - Belfast, check the intro, quite similar
my mother was a tailor.. NOT a trader... other then that this is awesome
Used to think it was, "sold my new blue jeans".
Couldn't make it through; many many other versions far better.