IT wasn't outside the security perimeter. In the 3 levels of security, it fell within zone 2, which was being covered by the local police. The snipers were there for level 3 security, which started at 2-300yards out to infinity. Level 1 being the security immediately surrounding the protectee. The real issue is that there should have already been someone on top of that building(as one podcast I listen too put it, a Rent-a-Cop drinking a Busch light up on that roof would have prevented it), as well as someone on top of the water tower. The argument that the roof was too steep fails, as the roof the snipers were on was steeper. There also is the question of why even after many people pointed out the shooter to police/secret service prior to Trump taking the stage, why Trump still was allowed to take the stage.
@@cannonfarm i say once again! who can afford to blow $300 TO $400+ down a pipe & currently idiots are paying over $500 for your cheapy rifle/ u can't even buy a junk scope on ebay for less than $40.00 doesn't anybody have mortgage, rent, car, grocery , insurance or property & school tax bills to pay where's the free money to piss on ammo how about feeding school kids & clothing ETC ETC
Who? Not us, we are true believers in free speech. And what crime would be a "hate crime" on UA-cam? Because we all know that there is no such thing as "hate speech". If someone did report you for "hate crimes", 1. I'm not sure what "hate crime" would be on UA-cam and 2. it's not us, CannonFarm.
The shooter was using iron sights, your .22 had a scope, and he failed to make the HS rifle team because he is a poor marksman. I agree with you that political violence, by anybody, against anybody, is unacceptable. Also, wild conspiracy theories being floated by all sides just need to stop. Like you said, you just sat up from the couch, grabbed your rifle , and made the shot, after 20 rounds or so. The shooter shot 8 shots, his first being the most accurate, but still pretty much a miss. No need for a conspiracy. But I would disagree about how statistically improbable his missing was. In my opinion, that .22 with a cheap scope you used would be more capable of making a 150 yard shot than an AR with open sights, especially for someone who wears glasses.
You missed the whole point of the video... and it's not about a conspiracy. It's just fact, 500ft is not a long shot. Security failed no matter how you look at it.
One picture I saw of him on the roof showed the top of the weapon, and there was no optic. I agree, it wasn't a long shot for a competent marksman, he wasn't. He also has vision problems, which make iron sites problematic, trust me. I agree with you, secret service effed up badly. Trump is lucky he was a bad shot, and that he didn't use a bolt action 30-06 with a scope, which is my point.
Yeah, I haven't even tried to use my good rifle. I purposely used my cheapest, simplest, weakest rifle. I've heard some crazy ideas. But if that guy did use iron sight shot that far away and got that close... he should have been made his high school rifle team. :)
Was watching Brandon Herrera on UA-cam and he did a breakdown of the ahooting. He said that the AR was an old PoS and that it appears he had an improperly mounted red dot with no magnification.
A responsible gun owner knows that a firearm is a shield, it is not a sword.
That little rooster is trying so hard! 🤣
Plus he was shooting a faster ammo.
IT wasn't outside the security perimeter. In the 3 levels of security, it fell within zone 2, which was being covered by the local police. The snipers were there for level 3 security, which started at 2-300yards out to infinity. Level 1 being the security immediately surrounding the protectee. The real issue is that there should have already been someone on top of that building(as one podcast I listen too put it, a Rent-a-Cop drinking a Busch light up on that roof would have prevented it), as well as someone on top of the water tower. The argument that the roof was too steep fails, as the roof the snipers were on was steeper. There also is the question of why even after many people pointed out the shooter to police/secret service prior to Trump taking the stage, why Trump still was allowed to take the stage.
" a Rent-a-Cop drinking a Busch light up on that roof would have prevented it", lol, so true.
Cuz he was a Patsy. Simple.
EVEN RIMFIRE: who the hell can afford to buy 2to3,000 rounds in today's economy! I forgot everybody makes 0ver 100,00 a year cheatin' the IRS
I'd suggest going to SGAMMO.com, they have great deals.
@@cannonfarm i say once again! who can afford to blow $300 TO $400+ down a pipe & currently idiots are paying over $500 for your cheapy rifle/ u can't even buy a junk scope on ebay for less than $40.00 doesn't anybody have mortgage, rent, car, grocery , insurance or property & school tax bills to pay where's the free money to piss on ammo how about feeding school kids & clothing ETC ETC
Guns are also a balance of nature
The guy was a lousy shot. That's all. Yes, it was a failure of security. They will be analyzing that for a while.
thx for reportin' me to youtube for hate crimes
Who? Not us, we are true believers in free speech. And what crime would be a "hate crime" on UA-cam? Because we all know that there is no such thing as "hate speech". If someone did report you for "hate crimes", 1. I'm not sure what "hate crime" would be on UA-cam and 2. it's not us, CannonFarm.
The shooter was using iron sights, your .22 had a scope, and he failed to make the HS rifle team because he is a poor marksman. I agree with you that political violence, by anybody, against anybody, is unacceptable. Also, wild conspiracy theories being floated by all sides just need to stop. Like you said, you just sat up from the couch, grabbed your rifle , and made the shot, after 20 rounds or so. The shooter shot 8 shots, his first being the most accurate, but still pretty much a miss. No need for a conspiracy. But I would disagree about how statistically improbable his missing was. In my opinion, that .22 with a cheap scope you used would be more capable of making a 150 yard shot than an AR with open sights, especially for someone who wears glasses.
You missed the whole point of the video... and it's not about a conspiracy. It's just fact, 500ft is not a long shot. Security failed no matter how you look at it.
BTW, where have you read that he used iron sights. Can you post the link? If he used irons sights at that range, then I do have a LOT more questions.
One picture I saw of him on the roof showed the top of the weapon, and there was no optic. I agree, it wasn't a long shot for a competent marksman, he wasn't. He also has vision problems, which make iron sites problematic, trust me. I agree with you, secret service effed up badly. Trump is lucky he was a bad shot, and that he didn't use a bolt action 30-06 with a scope, which is my point.
Yeah, I haven't even tried to use my good rifle. I purposely used my cheapest, simplest, weakest rifle. I've heard some crazy ideas. But if that guy did use iron sight shot that far away and got that close... he should have been made his high school rifle team. :)
Was watching Brandon Herrera on UA-cam and he did a breakdown of the ahooting. He said that the AR was an old PoS and that it appears he had an improperly mounted red dot with no magnification.