I bought a woodpecker steel square ,it was expensive but accurate . It is a must to have since the square is so important as far as accuracy . Basically i use old hand tool and my accurate square . Thank you for this post ,it was most helpful ! GM
Nice. I’ll definitely be making those at some point. I don’t know what kind of glue you’re using, but the wood glue I use doesn’t adhere to packing tape so I cover my wooden clamping blocks and calls in it.
I had the same issue with a framing square, over its length it was around 6mm out! i threw it away, lol now i test my squares when i buy one, funny enough, all the very old, rusty british made, second hand ones ive rescued have been spot on
+jusb1066 Yeah, I guess they just stamp them out of sheet steel today, give them a coat of paint and call them done. 6mm out is ridiculous, you could do much better than that by eye! I've still got mine as plan on trying to grind it square at some point. I think it'll be an exercise in futility but you never know.
Wobblycogs Workshop the problem is the same as mine, you have the powder coat version, if you can track down an older stamped/engraved one, you can use the centre punch technique to expand one corner if it needs doing, my powder coated one ended up as a couple of brackets or some scrap use. you can of course, make a wooden one, squares being the tool that can check itself.
It's possible to fix/adjust "unsquare" framing squares with a hammer and punch on the inside or outside corner , just a little tap on the face of the square moves it a fraction
You could also use a square block of wood and clamp two clamp onto that. The block of wood is in the corner of the two pieces of wood and the clamps are holding it into place.
I bought the 4 piece set of Narex morticing chisels last year, wishing I'd saved up and gone for the 8 piece set seeing the quality. WH is not cheap but everything I've had from them has been top quality.
+Rick Dearmont Glad you liked it. They have been incredibly useful around the shop and because they are basically free I don't care if they get damaged.
Clamping two of them back to back would presumably be a good way of testing if they're square as the other sides should give you a perfect straight edge.
Good thinking, I've got a reference straight edge I could use for that. Considering they are made of wood they are surprisingly square and as far as I know have remained square (I should check as it's been few months).
I can go one better than that I can give you a link: www.workshopheaven.com/tools/Quangsheng-Luban-No.91-Small-Shoulder-Plane.html . It's a Quangsheng Luban No. 91 Small Shoulder Plane. You can buy Quangsheng planes from other places cheaper but my understanding is that Workshop Heaven orders them to a higher specification. The plane is of exceptional quality, probably better than my Lie Nielsen block plane (the only other nice plane I own). Looks like they are out of stock of the 91 but they have the 92 which is the bigger version.
Considering you finished the squaring by running then through the chop saw for clean up, I'd say it is your chop saw that is slightly off. Even if the framing square also is, the miter / chop saw took the last cuts.
Off camera I measured the angle using a digital angle finder and checked it with an engineering square, it's definitely the framing square that's out. I noticed the other day the mitre saw needs a tweak to bring it back to 90 but it's much less than 1 deg out.
Hello dude! I love your corner clamp tutorial. I also love your Compound Sliding Miter Saw because it made no sound at all. What brand is it and where can I get one to purchase? Please send me the link...Thanks in advance.
The mitre saw is made by Makita. That don't make that exact model any more, the closest is the LA1216L. I'm afraid to say though it's much louder than it sounds in the video, I reduce volume when I edit the video so it doesn't deafen people. All mitre saws are loud though it's just the way they are.
Absolutely, when I made this video I didn't know how to do it though. I also needed to be able to clamp things square which these allow. Would you believe I've still not adjusted the framing square, perhaps one day...
+Joe basementwoodworking Absolutely, and because they are finished on the mitre saw you don't have to be very accurate during the construction. I could probably make a pair quicker than I could get down the shops to buy them.
That's not a clamp you forgot a few parts all that's only square were is the clamping part I have made quite a few of this style clamp but mine actually is a clamp
Neither quick nor simple. Just cut some squares of 3/4-in plywood (laminate two together if you want a thicker clamp), and then cut L-shaped pieces out of the square on the table saw (finish the cut with a bandsaw or hand saw) to make corner clamps that can be used in inside or outside corners. Quick and simple.
You could do the same thing with a miter saw. Or even a circular saw if you use a guide. The point is to just make L-shaped pieces that have flat edges and 90-deg angles. And it is important to make it out of plywood so that both sides of the 'L' are equally strong. The only tricky part is finishing the cut on the inside corner of the 'L', but even that is not important if you only want to make inside-corner clamps (which use the outside of the 'L')
I find editing the video to tell a good story is much harder than making whatever the video shows. Now I look at it again I agree this video is a bit long winded and I've tried to tighten up the editing since but I'm still learning. My problem is I want to make videos that people can actually follow along with and build the thing themselves. For some people that means an hour long marathon and others a few photos would be enough.
Wobblycogs Workshop The original comment wasn't mine, but I agree that editing a video is often harder than the project itself. Not that I've made very many videos, or that they are any good... Anyway, my theory is that you cut, cut some more, cut again, and just keep cutting and cutting and cutting, until you distill it down to all the relevant parts. You can can still show all the steps of the process, but if you remove the repetition, and keep it fast-moving it's a lot more watchable. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it!
I disagree Nick. I 've found it useful. Love the lazer stuff WW but I don't do spinning blades. Great ideas though and for me it's useful to ahve the procedures broken down. Have you got a procedure (video) for those with out the megga bucks saw. ;-) Thanks for sharing and sorry if its pedantic for others.
lol, that's pretty much what my dad says. I don't actually have that much fine woodworking gear. Most of what I have is for building (I'm doing up our house). Welcome to the channel.
I bought a woodpecker steel square ,it was expensive but accurate . It is a must to have since the square is so important as far as accuracy . Basically i use old hand tool and my accurate square . Thank you for this post ,it was most helpful ! GM
Nice. Love a handy bit of kit made from scrap.
+Rattlecan Guitar Restorations Thanks. I've just sub'ed your channel as well, interesting stuff.
Really quick and simple yet works!
+Dar Hoo Glad you found them useful.
Excellent. Thank you 🙏
Excellent demonstration. Thank you for sharing your work.
My pleasure, glad you found it helpful.
Nice. I’ll definitely be making those at some point. I don’t know what kind of glue you’re using, but the wood glue I use doesn’t adhere to packing tape so I cover my wooden clamping blocks and calls in it.
I had the same issue with a framing square, over its length it was around 6mm out! i threw it away, lol now i test my squares when i buy one, funny enough, all the very old, rusty british made, second hand ones ive rescued have been spot on
+jusb1066 Yeah, I guess they just stamp them out of sheet steel today, give them a coat of paint and call them done. 6mm out is ridiculous, you could do much better than that by eye! I've still got mine as plan on trying to grind it square at some point. I think it'll be an exercise in futility but you never know.
Wobblycogs Workshop
the problem is the same as mine, you have the powder coat version, if you can track down an older stamped/engraved one, you can use the centre punch technique to expand one corner if it needs doing, my powder coated one ended up as a couple of brackets or some scrap use. you can of course, make a wooden one, squares being the tool that can check itself.
That black framing square looks like a ALDI Special ;-)
It's possible to fix/adjust "unsquare" framing squares with a hammer and punch on the inside or outside corner , just a little tap on the face of the square moves it a fraction
Thanks, I've had a couple of people mention that method for fixing it but I've not given it a go yet.
You could also use a square block of wood and clamp two clamp onto that. The block of wood is in the corner of the two pieces of wood and the clamps are holding it into place.
Great video. Are you using the same digital angle finder to make sure that your miter saw and fence are at 90 degrees as well?
Yes, I don't use that angle finder very often but it comes in very useful at times like that.
thanks for that. I've seen those quangsheng planes on workshop Heaven. I got my Narex chisels from them. Maybe I should save up.
I bought the 4 piece set of Narex morticing chisels last year, wishing I'd saved up and gone for the 8 piece set seeing the quality. WH is not cheap but everything I've had from them has been top quality.
Use plastic set squares as used in school. These are very accurate.
Thanks! That was a great idea!
+Rick Dearmont Glad you liked it. They have been incredibly useful around the shop and because they are basically free I don't care if they get damaged.
+Wobblycogs Workshop Right, and as you pointed out, I can't trust my framing square, I think I have the same one as you do.
There's a comment below about how to correct a framing square. I've not given it a go on mine yet but it looks like it should work.
You could triangulate to get the dimension of the hypotenuse to determine if it's square.
You can adjust your framing square with a center punch. Punch near the corner until it is 90 deg.
Great idea, just subscribed thanks for sharing.
+Marc Eaton Thanks, I've got a few more videos of putting together my new shop and then I'll be back to making things again.
Clamping two of them back to back would presumably be a good way of testing if they're square as the other sides should give you a perfect straight edge.
Good thinking, I've got a reference straight edge I could use for that. Considering they are made of wood they are surprisingly square and as far as I know have remained square (I should check as it's been few months).
You can adjust the framing square by tapping it with a hammer in the corner.
Thanks, I'll be giving it a try.
Could you tell me the make of your shoulder plane please?
I can go one better than that I can give you a link: www.workshopheaven.com/tools/Quangsheng-Luban-No.91-Small-Shoulder-Plane.html . It's a Quangsheng Luban No. 91 Small Shoulder Plane. You can buy Quangsheng planes from other places cheaper but my understanding is that Workshop Heaven orders them to a higher specification. The plane is of exceptional quality, probably better than my Lie Nielsen block plane (the only other nice plane I own). Looks like they are out of stock of the 91 but they have the 92 which is the bigger version.
Considering you finished the squaring by running then through the chop saw for clean up, I'd say it is your chop saw that is slightly off. Even if the framing square also is, the miter / chop saw took the last cuts.
Off camera I measured the angle using a digital angle finder and checked it with an engineering square, it's definitely the framing square that's out. I noticed the other day the mitre saw needs a tweak to bring it back to 90 but it's much less than 1 deg out.
Let’s take something simple and use it to give us a lot of work to do.
I think you’ve done the same thing with your comment... are you trying to say “let’s take something simple and complicate it”?
Hello dude! I love your corner clamp tutorial. I also love your Compound Sliding Miter Saw because it made no sound at all. What brand is it and where can I get one to purchase? Please send me the link...Thanks in advance.
The mitre saw is made by Makita. That don't make that exact model any more, the closest is the LA1216L. I'm afraid to say though it's much louder than it sounds in the video, I reduce volume when I edit the video so it doesn't deafen people. All mitre saws are loud though it's just the way they are.
Did you just use a flat head screw?
Yeah, it was just what I had to hand at the time. I'm not a screwist, I accept screws in all their many shapes, colours and sizes.
@@WobblycogsUk I know this is an old comment, but I think I giggled way too much at that "I'm not a screwist" remark 🤣🤣
Cheers
Doc from Australia
That is a nice video. The audio volume is a bit weak. Thanks !
+Ro Efa Thanks, do you mean the music is too loud compared to the speech? If so I'll try and fix that in future videos.
No. the voice is not loud enough. I watch many UA-cam videos on my iPad... yours is barely audible by comparison.
+Wobblycogs Workshop who is the music
+Colin Attley Kevin MacLeod - Revival, a lot of UA-camrs use his music as he makes it available royalty free.
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Step one was to adjust that framing square to 90 degrees. Or maybe use another method to get the clamp squared.
Absolutely, when I made this video I didn't know how to do it though. I also needed to be able to clamp things square which these allow. Would you believe I've still not adjusted the framing square, perhaps one day...
nice! . why buy them when u can make em :)
+Joe basementwoodworking Absolutely, and because they are finished on the mitre saw you don't have to be very accurate during the construction. I could probably make a pair quicker than I could get down the shops to buy them.
Wobblycogs Workshop nice! i like that answer..haha
I would have done this with a table saw and a good miter gauge. Chop saw limits the size of the clamps.
A table saw would certainly allow for larger clamps but you have to work with what you've got. Cheers.
That's not a clamp you forgot a few parts all that's only square were is the clamping part I have made quite a few of this style clamp but mine actually is a clamp
quick and simple????
Simple ok....Quick? 9:39 min. quick???
Neither quick nor simple. Just cut some squares of 3/4-in plywood (laminate two together if you want a thicker clamp), and then cut L-shaped pieces out of the square on the table saw (finish the cut with a bandsaw or hand saw) to make corner clamps that can be used in inside or outside corners. Quick and simple.
Good idea if you've got a table saw. The only large tools I had when I made this video were the mitre saw and a router.
You could do the same thing with a miter saw. Or even a circular saw if you use a guide. The point is to just make L-shaped pieces that have flat edges and 90-deg angles. And it is important to make it out of plywood so that both sides of the 'L' are equally strong. The only tricky part is finishing the cut on the inside corner of the 'L', but even that is not important if you only want to make inside-corner clamps (which use the outside of the 'L')
holy crap why not cut this down to like 3 mins
On the other hand, there are youtubers who would turn this into a 3 or 5 part series...
I find editing the video to tell a good story is much harder than making whatever the video shows. Now I look at it again I agree this video is a bit long winded and I've tried to tighten up the editing since but I'm still learning. My problem is I want to make videos that people can actually follow along with and build the thing themselves. For some people that means an hour long marathon and others a few photos would be enough.
Wobblycogs Workshop The original comment wasn't mine, but I agree that editing a video is often harder than the project itself. Not that I've made very many videos, or that they are any good... Anyway, my theory is that you cut, cut some more, cut again, and just keep cutting and cutting and cutting, until you distill it down to all the relevant parts. You can can still show all the steps of the process, but if you remove the repetition, and keep it fast-moving it's a lot more watchable. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it!
I think it was perfect for a beginner like me
I disagree Nick.
I 've found it useful.
Love the lazer stuff WW but I don't do spinning blades.
Great ideas though and for me it's useful to ahve the procedures broken down.
Have you got a procedure (video) for those with out the megga bucks saw. ;-)
Thanks for sharing and sorry if its pedantic for others.
Everything good but the silly music, pissme off
Gonna make one corner clamp
Ok, the notion that a guy would have ALL THIS OTHER GEAR, but not have a 10 dollar corner clamp or two lying around seems, kinda silly.
lol, that's pretty much what my dad says. I don't actually have that much fine woodworking gear. Most of what I have is for building (I'm doing up our house). Welcome to the channel.
I'm that guy. I only own a few small clamps. I need some cheap corner clamps so that I don't have to buy any $30 bar clamps. Not yet anyway.
There was nothing quick or simple about that.
NOT CLAMPS.