My current set up is heavy squats, shoulder press and weighted pull-ups, Mondays, and Fridays no squats on Wednesday, heavy dead lift bench press, and pin presses on Wednesday
I like your suggestion. Another option is to alternate squat and deadlift from session to session just as they do with press and bench. But in both cases, we are committing what Mark Rip calls YNDFP 😁😁😁
@farhanhussain_ That sound ideal. In the book 'Brawn' by Stuart McRobert, who was big into progressive overload even with very small weight increases, while using abbreviated programs, promoted something similar. Monday was BSq, BPr and Row. Thursday was ShPr and deadlifts. Add some 1 or 2 arm exercises for a couple of sets. When you look at it both days are training your pushing and pulling muscles as well as the lower body. So really training the whole body twice a week. When u start adding weight to the big exercises, you need all the extra recovery time you can get and reduce and eliminate any exercises that are draining your reserves without any real positive benefits.
I wish we could drop the modifier "novice" from "Novice Linear Progression". There is a stigma attached to the word, and consequently some people won't do it just because they don't see themselves as a 'novice'. Old, young, strong, weak, injured, advanced: if you can progress in a linear fashion -- you should!
the book says try 5% off for the light squat for old guys , if its still too hard to recover reduce the reps as far a 3 x 3 before taking wight off. I do 5% off one set of 3 one set of 4 one set of 5. At 70 years old its not being dead tired the next 2 or 3 day is the limiting factor not the weight.
Possible as you approach 70, but diet and how many injuries and stupid questions you have addressed between now and then will affect the gut and the attitude.
Personally, ive found the "light squat" day to be most effective as a single x10 working set at a weight thats just a rep or two short of failure. Rather than having the light squat day be another 3x5 just at reduced weight.
They say a lot of Novice Linear Progression is neurological. Would it make sense to focus on developing the neurological side at the end of the NLP and then seeing if there is more left? What about supplementing specifically for that neurological aspect? How do you address lifters that keep getting injured?
I would reduce the load and volume on the specific exercises that are causing problems and focus on improving technique and the supporting muscles. Sometimes you have to take two steps back to go one step forward.
It's weird how folks want to get out of NLP as fast as possible. It's more impressive to hear lifters talk about their commitment to the program, trying anything and everything possible to milk as much as they could out of it.
After 2-3 weeks. Then do Chin ups every other workout with the other day alternating between power cleans and deadlifts. This means you will deadlift about 10 days or so apart (same with Power cleans). If you do not feel comfortable doing PCs I think Rows will work well for a new person.
When it becomes too taxing. You'll know bc you won't be recovering in between workouts. Varies by age, genetics, etc. If you started with a light deadlift, you can go a couple months.
What do i do if my knees are killing me at 288lbs squat but im still going up by 1lb every workout, everything else is good....im 210lbs 38yo, manual labourer
The real answer is to get a knowledgeable trainer to correct your form. Your knees shouldn't be hurting. It's technical stuff, consider it an investment 👍
Instead of introducing lighter days for squat and deadlift, I would rather alternate squat and deadlift just like press and bench. And yes I know, YNDFP😁😁😁😁 but who cares if it works
I like doing it this way but I have trouble if I have two many days between squats or if I mis a session and now it’s been more than a week since I squated. It’s like my muscles don’t fire correctly and I engage the wrong muscles. I don’t have that happen if I squat at least a couple times per week.
There are published strength standards for untrained through elite/world record 1RM. Until you put up those numbers for your age and weight class, doesn't matter how much you know or how long you've trained.. still a novice.
That really is not a metric for novice at all. Some people on day one will be way ahead of newb standards and others are going to work to break out of them. The term novice matters a lot because it affects the ability to recover/stimulus need to adapt/tolerance to volume and intensity balance. By those numbers I am considered elite in several categories (all of them by age) and at least advanced in all of them. That just means I am strong. I am an intermediate level lifter though...not advanced. The level you are at determines the type of training you need...not how much you can lift.
Appreciate you grant
Over the past 3 years ive rerun the nlp 2 or 3 times. Life happens. Its okay. One thing you learn about strength is how fast it comes back.
This is such an amazing channel, I watched 2 videos almost randomly and it answered every question I had
I’m in the group now. Very helpful
I wish the app accounted for these kinds of variations
It does. Settings > Training Options > Change Program > Advanced Novice
My current set up is heavy squats, shoulder press and weighted pull-ups, Mondays, and Fridays no squats on Wednesday, heavy dead lift bench press, and pin presses on Wednesday
Video is awesome. Thanks jr rip
Thanks for the video. It was the exact questions I had. I appreciate it.
If training 3 times a week on the 3 big lifts and progress stops, just drop a day and train twice a week like monday and Thursday.
I like your suggestion. Another option is to alternate squat and deadlift from session to session just as they do with press and bench. But in both cases, we are committing what Mark Rip calls YNDFP 😁😁😁
@farhanhussain_
That sound ideal. In the book 'Brawn' by Stuart McRobert, who was big into progressive overload even with very small weight increases, while using abbreviated programs, promoted something similar.
Monday was BSq, BPr and Row. Thursday was ShPr and deadlifts. Add some 1 or 2 arm exercises for a couple of sets.
When you look at it both days are training your pushing and pulling muscles as well as the lower body.
So really training the whole body twice a week. When u start adding weight to the big exercises, you need all the extra recovery time you can get and reduce and eliminate any exercises that are draining your reserves without any real positive benefits.
@@dansmith9724 I agree 👍
I wish we could drop the modifier "novice" from "Novice Linear Progression". There is a stigma attached to the word, and consequently some people won't do it just because they don't see themselves as a 'novice'. Old, young, strong, weak, injured, advanced: if you can progress in a linear fashion -- you should!
you are a novice
@@WiecznieNieNasycony😂😂😂😂
What term would you recommend instead?
@nattyfatty6.0 Anytime life happens and I can’t train for two weeks, I’m a novice. As to whether I’m stigmatized please ask my wife.
95% of all lifters are novice lifters and will be for their entire life. Novice is good.
Big Grant
the book says try 5% off for the light squat for old guys , if its still too hard to recover reduce the reps as far a 3 x 3 before taking wight off. I do 5% off one set of 3 one set of 4 one set of 5. At 70 years old its not being dead tired the next 2 or 3 day is the limiting factor not the weight.
20% off 225 is 180.
Good advice, though.
Newer lifter here. If I run starting strength, will I get a gut and a shit attitude like Rip?
Not necessarily but it might help you come off as less of a pussy
Possible as you approach 70, but diet and how many injuries and stupid questions you have addressed between now and then will affect the gut and the attitude.
Only if you are lucky and gifted !
Personally, ive found the "light squat" day to be most effective as a single x10 working set at a weight thats just a rep or two short of failure. Rather than having the light squat day be another 3x5 just at reduced weight.
They say a lot of Novice Linear Progression is neurological. Would it make sense to focus on developing the neurological side at the end of the NLP and then seeing if there is more left? What about supplementing specifically for that neurological aspect?
How do you address lifters that keep getting injured?
I would reduce the load and volume on the specific exercises that are causing problems and focus on improving technique and the supporting muscles. Sometimes you have to take two steps back to go one step forward.
"I'm not stuck unless I stop."
- Steven Furtick
It's weird how folks want to get out of NLP as fast as possible. It's more impressive to hear lifters talk about their commitment to the program, trying anything and everything possible to milk as much as they could out of it.
After my NLP I did HLM and now I’m doing a 4-Day Split…
is it call " Lifte time intermediate"?
When do you stop deadlifting every workout
After 2-3 weeks. Then do Chin ups every other workout with the other day alternating between power cleans and deadlifts. This means you will deadlift about 10 days or so apart (same with Power cleans). If you do not feel comfortable doing PCs I think Rows will work well for a new person.
Never is the only correct answer.
@@jamesc4378 I dunno when it gets heavy enough recovery is rough
there are different deadlift variations like deficit, pause or speed deadlifts you can put in for lighter days
When it becomes too taxing. You'll know bc you won't be recovering in between workouts. Varies by age, genetics, etc. If you started with a light deadlift, you can go a couple months.
What do i do if my knees are killing me at 288lbs squat but im still going up by 1lb every workout, everything else is good....im 210lbs 38yo, manual labourer
Yeah, I move furniture and I hate fucking squatting this much. When am I supposed to recover? My lower back is not up to this.
@chsbkr What did you end up doing? I'm hestitant to start using wraps.
@@fiscolorado656 I just skip leg day like everyone else. I'm hoping to hit 315 on bench by the end of the year.
You gotta stay in the hips
The real answer is to get a knowledgeable trainer to correct your form. Your knees shouldn't be hurting. It's technical stuff, consider it an investment 👍
Instead of introducing lighter days for squat and deadlift, I would rather alternate squat and deadlift just like press and bench.
And yes I know, YNDFP😁😁😁😁 but who cares if it works
I like doing it this way but I have trouble if I have two many days between squats or if I mis a session and now it’s been more than a week since I squated. It’s like my muscles don’t fire correctly and I engage the wrong muscles. I don’t have that happen if I squat at least a couple times per week.
Recovery hole
Not 100% certain, but I think 80% of 225 = 180, not 200.
that mustache
So we’re just not going to talk about that mustache?
There are published strength standards for untrained through elite/world record 1RM. Until you put up those numbers for your age and weight class, doesn't matter how much you know or how long you've trained.. still a novice.
In a sense but if you’re lucky the novice program will take you way past and if you’re unlucky then it won’t get you anywhere near close.
That really is not a metric for novice at all. Some people on day one will be way ahead of newb standards and others are going to work to break out of them. The term novice matters a lot because it affects the ability to recover/stimulus need to adapt/tolerance to volume and intensity balance. By those numbers I am considered elite in several categories (all of them by age) and at least advanced in all of them. That just means I am strong. I am an intermediate level lifter though...not advanced. The level you are at determines the type of training you need...not how much you can lift.
Novice refers to your ability to increase your strength adaptation 3 times a week. It's got morning to do with absolute strength.
I'm not sure this mustache is the right move.