All great points. Sometimes we don't figure out what is needed until you make the mistake 1st hand. Easy runs should be easy peasy. And get some rest weekly and an extra day when necessary.
Solid advice as always Andy! I've been looking closely at Professor Andy Jones findings from working with Eliud Kipchoge and Paula Radcliffe. I'd love to talk to you about some of the Canova workouts you've used. I'm working on a new hybrid marathon training cycle and think we could both benefit from some sharing.
Great video the session days too hard resonates with me, despite being old enough to know better. One thing that works for me is to be adaptable and listen to your body, if really shattered and have a session day,don't be afraid to swap out, with a rest or easy day, once it gets done.
Thank you for all these great advices! Just discovered your channel and very happy about the discovery - Hope your running and life is going well! Thanks again
Good video Andy, interesting the one about people not resting enough after a big marathon training block, I think partly why people get back to running to quickly is, I know myself, training becomes such a routine that you enjoy, any more than a week not running feels strange like something is missing, sometimes after 3-4 days away from the trails then I get back on the trails feels like months away, & I’m thinking oh missed the trails so much & it’s only been 3 days haha ✅🍀🧐🏃🏽♂️😀🌲😂🥳🍀🌲
Yeah it definitely took me a while to get it drilled into me that taking the easy days, easy was important. It is easy to get carried away on them, especially in the Strava era. One thing the I think a lot of runners fail to do is to dial in their training focus. You sort of mentioned it when you talked about changing your routes. By I see a lot of runners just running "medium paced runs" every time they go out. These can help, especially if you are trying to build your aerobic base, but you won't be able to take it to the next level unless you really work in the paces you want to achieve. I was guilty of this for a long time as well. As always, great content Andy.
Is taking a rest after training block really good? I wonder. To me that sounds like something we want to be true but I don't think it is. To countinously have short breaks sound to me much better. Just keep that routine going no matter season. What does the science say?
A lot of elite marathon runners take 2/3 weeks off after a marathon block and sometimes even up to a month…. Mentally it’s great as your life has been consumed by marathon training but physically a good break allows your body to thoroughly absorb all the training you’ve been putting in over the past few weeks and get ready to go again!
Its all about volume, take Nills van Der Pole bicycle 6 hour seasions 5 days a week. I mean if you are an ordinary guy and want a easy day of even as a runner but want volume and build endurance. Just sit at home watch tv series slow spinning for like 2-3 hours, you should feel fresh when you stepp off.
A counterpoint on the hard days… you do want one of these every now and then, if it’s an anaerobic workout for example - otherwise you’ve not actually done the workout right! Generally though you’re right, don’t burn the barn if you don’t need to
Based off the thumbnail picture a general tip is when you are gasping for air it is a faster recovery to stand upright, close your mouth and take deeper diaphragm breaths.
Hi Andy, great video. Point 5 resonated with me lol. I'm doing Newport Marathon like yourself. However I'm also doing the Rob Burrow MND Marathon 4 weeks later in Leeds, mad I know. What would you suggest I should be doing each week after Newport. I think I know what you're going to say though. Cheers, Steve
Thanks mate! Oh that’s a tough one if it’s only 4 weeks after… I’d probably use Newport as a training run so you can roll through into the training the next week, otherwise if you do an all out effort at Newport you’ll need some good recovery time!
@@TheFODRunner thanks Andy, that's what I was thinking. I'm planning to take a week off after Newport then go back around to the 3 week taper again. Do you think that would work OK. Cheers
Ego is a problem. I also find that I try to rush through runs. I feel like running is a guilty pleasure I guess. I know it’s not, but that’s how I feel for some reason.
If you work to HR you’ll see over time your pace relative to effort drop, so you’ll know then to increase the pace to get back up to the same effort… ie if 6:00 per mile was your threshold and thah was around 170/175bpm… 6 months later that same pace might be 165bpm as you’re fitter so try increasing the pace to 5:50 per mile and see if you get 170/175 again
All great points. Sometimes we don't figure out what is needed until you make the mistake 1st hand. Easy runs should be easy peasy. And get some rest weekly and an extra day when necessary.
Great insights and hard earned wisdom. Two words stand out to me..."ego control!"
Yes!
Solid advice as always Andy! I've been looking closely at Professor Andy Jones findings from working with Eliud Kipchoge and Paula Radcliffe. I'd love to talk to you about some of the Canova workouts you've used. I'm working on a new hybrid marathon training cycle and think we could both benefit from some sharing.
Great video the session days too hard resonates with me, despite being old enough to know better. One thing that works for me is to be adaptable and listen to your body, if really shattered and have a session day,don't be afraid to swap out, with a rest or easy day, once it gets done.
how are peoples running shoes always so clean in youtube videos.
mine look like 2 blocks of dried dirt after 2 runs.
I don’t clean mine in all honesty!
Thank you for all these great advices! Just discovered your channel and very happy about the discovery - Hope your running and life is going well! Thanks again
Good video Andy, interesting the one about people not resting enough after a big marathon training block, I think partly why people get back to running to quickly is, I know myself, training becomes such a routine that you enjoy, any more than a week not running feels strange like something is missing, sometimes after 3-4 days away from the trails then I get back on the trails feels like months away, & I’m thinking oh missed the trails so much & it’s only been 3 days haha ✅🍀🧐🏃🏽♂️😀🌲😂🥳🍀🌲
Yeah it definitely took me a while to get it drilled into me that taking the easy days, easy was important. It is easy to get carried away on them, especially in the Strava era.
One thing the I think a lot of runners fail to do is to dial in their training focus. You sort of mentioned it when you talked about changing your routes. By I see a lot of runners just running "medium paced runs" every time they go out. These can help, especially if you are trying to build your aerobic base, but you won't be able to take it to the next level unless you really work in the paces you want to achieve. I was guilty of this for a long time as well.
As always, great content Andy.
Is taking a rest after training block really good? I wonder. To me that sounds like something we want to be true but I don't think it is. To countinously have short breaks sound to me much better. Just keep that routine going no matter season. What does the science say?
A lot of elite marathon runners take 2/3 weeks off after a marathon block and sometimes even up to a month…. Mentally it’s great as your life has been consumed by marathon training but physically a good break allows your body to thoroughly absorb all the training you’ve been putting in over the past few weeks and get ready to go again!
Its all about volume, take Nills van Der Pole bicycle 6 hour seasions 5 days a week. I mean if you are an ordinary guy and want a easy day of even as a runner but want volume and build endurance.
Just sit at home watch tv series slow spinning for like 2-3 hours, you should feel fresh when you stepp off.
A counterpoint on the hard days… you do want one of these every now and then, if it’s an anaerobic workout for example - otherwise you’ve not actually done the workout right! Generally though you’re right, don’t burn the barn if you don’t need to
Based off the thumbnail picture a general tip is when you are gasping for air it is a faster recovery to stand upright, close your mouth and take deeper diaphragm breaths.
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Hi Andy, great video. Point 5 resonated with me lol. I'm doing Newport Marathon like yourself. However I'm also doing the Rob Burrow MND Marathon 4 weeks later in Leeds, mad I know. What would you suggest I should be doing each week after Newport. I think I know what you're going to say though. Cheers, Steve
Thanks mate! Oh that’s a tough one if it’s only 4 weeks after… I’d probably use Newport as a training run so you can roll through into the training the next week, otherwise if you do an all out effort at Newport you’ll need some good recovery time!
@@TheFODRunner thanks Andy, that's what I was thinking. I'm planning to take a week off after Newport then go back around to the 3 week taper again. Do you think that would work OK. Cheers
Give it a go mate and see how you get on, definitely time off after Newport is key though!
Ego is a problem. I also find that I try to rush through runs. I feel like running is a guilty pleasure I guess. I know it’s not, but that’s how I feel for some reason.
Just curious about the runners with running day streaks....wonder how many of them did a marathon training block/marathon and never took a day off?
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How do you know when you can increase your threshold pace?
racing results
If you work to HR you’ll see over time your pace relative to effort drop, so you’ll know then to increase the pace to get back up to the same effort… ie if 6:00 per mile was your threshold and thah was around 170/175bpm… 6 months later that same pace might be 165bpm as you’re fitter so try increasing the pace to 5:50 per mile and see if you get 170/175 again