That if a very good sign. Because it means you hold your parents in high esteem and respect them enough to trust their wisdom. They have raised you well.
As a person who had 'asian parenting' growing up, I want to emphasize that before you even consider using physical punishments on your child, it's incredibly important to be there for them emotionally. If there is no open communication between both parent and child, that IS a form of abuse.
That is SO true. So many people (not just parents) completely miss the point of utilizing things like fear and disappointment (through physical punishments or not), which is to help the kid feel bad about an emotionally-bonded person feeling negatively towards them. Building up that bond with a child can bring the respect without the fear, and can help the punishments hit the mark without needing to resort to being overkill. Not to mention just straight up hitting kids you made no effort into befriending is just straight up abuse
There is never a circumstance where its okay to physically punish your child. Its child abuse 100% of the time and you are a terrible person and parent if you ever do it.
@@All-Outta-Bubblegum yes 100%. As a parent you decided to get a child and take the responsibility of raising and protecting the child (you could argue the biggest responsibility you can have as a human being). Resorting to physical violence and lashing out at a child that first of all doesn’t know any better and most likely got their behavior through your parenting skills is in no circumstances right. If you would beat your child you aren’t ready for one
3:15 I think a lot of the line between fear and respect is if you keep consistent with both rewards and punishments. The punishments also need to be proportional to what the kid did, like they broke their phone intentionally and they get the cheap burner phone and have to work to pay off the cost of the phone they broke before they get a good one. If they accidentally dropped the phone, they might end up with a cheaper phone but nothing else, since everyone fumbles a phone every once in a while. If you punish a kid for a rule that they didn't know (that's not obvious for their age) it'll mess them up too. So if the their curfew has been 8 at night, don't change it to 7 without telling them and punish them for not knowing it.
for punishments to work, the kid needs to sincerely believe that they deserve to be punished. it isn't enough to punish your kid. it also isn't enough to explain why they are punished. don't forget kids can also lie about if they understand
I dunno if kids lie on purpose about what they do or don't understand, it might be just how each kid processes the world around them is different. As someone who grew up ND in the '90s before there was much understanding about it (aside from just being seen as really shy), I didn't have the best ways to explain outright to the adults around me what I was experiencing without hindsight as an adult. It wasn't that I was completely nonverbal (save for a brief period of selective mutism when I was really little) - I just didn't have the tools and experience to communicate well, at least from my pov when I look back on my time growing up. I also had times where I didnt realize I did or didn't understand things even when I thought I did or didn't, which, is unfortunately, something I've sometimes experienced in adulthood too (often out of fears of not being able to trust my senses/instincts well, after having grown up being told I'm not processing the world like I thought I was). I know not every kid grew up that way, but I wouldn't be surprised if lying about what they do or don't understand was never intentional for most kids. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Scarshadow666 i would lie to get out of uncomfortable situations. I wasn't even focused on whether or not I comprehend the world. but i do remember feeling shaken up and confused
working at an elementary school, so many students, mostly utk-2nd grade, just have the most spoiled behavior. when you asked them to stop doing something they're not suppose, they say "no, you can't tell me what to do!". if you try to take anything away from them as punishment, they start screaming and crying that you're being unfair. the office workers tell me so many parents dont even raise their kids themselves because they're "too busy providing", when the parents are divorced and/or the kid is raised by their 60+ year old relative
That's bull shit as I was raised by a single mother, and she definitely beat my ass when I got in trouble at school. Did I get in trouble afterward? Hell no! Also, do kids get detention anymore? Or do parents piss about that nowadays too? A teacher obviously can't lay hands on a child, but you can put them in time out, embarrass them in front of their class mates, etc. There are ways to make an example, and after that, it's between the teacher, the student's parents and the principal.
@Yunglex313 We were raised when physical discipline was a normal thing. Now, any physical action is abusive and mentally damaging. You can't even embarrass them because that could lead to potential mental issues. Hell, one year I had to help proctor the kids taking their finals. I wrote a few kids' names on the board for not staying quiet, I got a light warning from the principal because doing that scared the kids that they couldn't focus 👀
@@Azninjazn were the the kids actually scared, or were you just told that? Because if they were, then that just sounds like those kids are a bunch of nervous wrecks
For Joey’s experience, i will preface that none of us *truly* know what the extent of his relationship with his dad growing up used to look like. We absolutely cannot label his dad with anything bad without getting to know more (which is none of our business now that Joey’s a grown adult). However from past trash taste stories we know for sure that his dad was very supportive of him growing up. And that sheds a light on an important aspect we need to acknowledge, which is that he befriended child Joey. That alone is a very crucial part of child discipline and basically allows for other methods to have a positive impact when they otherwise wouldn’t. Also i think it’s very important to understand that Joey just sucked balls at telling this story lol a lot of it was caked in terrible wording which leads me to believe it isn’t nearly as bad as he somehow made it sound like.
When I did something wrong as a kid, I wasn't feeling guilty or something like that, I was scared that I would be physically punished and called different names. Not mentioning that I was depressed for 8-9 years and only recently started to feel a bit better, I'm just losing it when it comes to "physical" disagreement, and even if I would answer back, I'm scared that I might overdo it.
I hate this "Kids nowadays are acting like this because parents are too soft!!" When like, kids were acting like this and worse back when they were just straight up being beat. We just didnt have UA-cam to upload it all to.
Past Delusion: A behavior in which older people have a Rosier and very inaccurate view of the past, than it actually was. (70's hippie era, 80's sex drugs and rock and roll era, etc). its much like Orwel famously said: "Every generation believes itself to be wiser than the one after it, and more progressive than the one before it"
I remember a past episode where Connor had a self righteous rant about Hayao Miyazaki and how he was a "bad father". But here he is advocating for physical abuse towards children. 😂😂😂
I mean I feel like some kids do need a moderate amount cause for me my fear of the situation being "dad is pissed" formed my sense situational awareness and when I look at my brother, who I'm pretty sure has only been beaten like 5 times in his entire life, he fails to comprehend the most basic things like "why does my crying friend not want me to talk to him" "why do my parents get increasingly pissed when I just groan at their demands"
@@uggranpops8442 i think a lot of people seem to forget that children aren’t born with a formed personality. Their personality gets shaped by their circumstances and their main circumstance are your parenting skills. If your child turns into a little monster it’s most likely either your fault or your own behavior that you either consciously or subconsciously gave to your children. If you‘re in a constant state of stress or negative emotion in general your child will notice that even if you try to hide it. The best you can do is getting children when you‘re a 100% ready for it but a lot of people believe that getting a child would help them or enrich their live when in fact they should help and enrich the life of their children and until you aren’t ready to provide unconditional love you aren’t ready to raise a child
My mother's often the one who beats me up physically AND mentally when I do even the smallest mistakes regardless how mundane they are. But it's a lot different when it's my dad: He has a large amount of patience but the moment you press the wrong buttons, his beating is 3x as worse as my mom's. To the point that he made me bleed once. Until now, as a young adult, I fear them but not out of respect. I barely remember when was the last time I feel that they genuinely care for my safety.
Man I hope you're okay cause i am in the same boat here... really disguisted with Joey making that joke(i just cannot stand it man, i know it's a joke but DAMN "Parents should beat their kids"
@@name_adi honestly Joey and Conner are acting like two absolute morons in this episode (and I don’t mean it in the usual fun way). Them seriously advocating for threatening your child with violence shows how unready they‘re to raise a child and how childish they‘re themselves. At least Garnt kept it real
I really do think that different kids require different types of discipline. For me as a kid, time outs were enough, boredom was my greatest enemy and I absolutely hated having to sit and do nothing for even a couple minutes. For my brother, time outs and such weren’t effective so he would be spanked. There isn’t a single type of discipline that’s going to work in every child, but that only means it’s the parent’s responsibility to find an effective discipline tactic because kids NEED discipline.
What I really appreciated from my mom(cuz well parents aint plural here), is that she noticed that I started disconnecting from her at 13 years old. So she looked into ways to still spend time with me and be interested in the things I like. She proceeded to watch through all the naruto and naruto shippuden with me. Each time during lunch and dinner we'd sit there and watch. We even watched all the filler episodes and movies. I am honestly so grateful for that core memory and the effort.
The first few minutes really honor this podcast's name XD. The video itself is not too bad, but I'll need a hazmat suit before traversing this comment section.
@@flyinggecko6617 Corporal punishment is still wrong though, as acknowledged by experts in that field. I am not saying kids shouldn't be punished and disciplined, a lot of children need that, especially nowadays. But there is a right way to do it.
When I saw my grandma be so pissed off that I was being a little shite, she picked up a concrete block over her head to throw it at me, that’s when I thought dang, I need to re-evaluate my choices in life 😂
Wow. Going through these comments makes me feel extremely blessed for having parents like mine. They never hit but they were really good at being threatening when i was throwing a fit. The disappointed sighs, the silence, or if i was extra mouthy, my dad’s “honey, get the hot sauce” which they never acted on but still worked on me lol. I only remember one time when i was a teenager where my dad slapped me for being a massive shit to my sibling, but i didnt feel sad about it at all because i was fully able to acknowledge by then that i really deserved it. So i just went on my day and forgot about it, until about an hour later when my dad came to my room and apologized to me for doing it. THAT was what made me cry and helped me continue growing the right way. TL;DR no, hitting is not at all “needed”, and there are definitely other ways to teach a kid to feel disappointed in themselves for mistakes as they grow older.
Don't hit your kids. It doesn't work. It is not a form of discipline it is a form of abuse. Several scientific studies have shown that the affects of corporal punishment are negative in the long term development of a child and do nothing to actually "discipline" them. Children misbehave due to a lack of proper parenting, which requires patience and understanding, as well as a firm approach. Proper parenting is not hitting your children. Hitting your children is lazy, in fact just as lazy as giving them an IPad and letting that do the parenting for you. If you wanna argue that there are benefits to hitting children, please stand in line with the anti-vaxxers, flat earthers and the healing crystal crowd, since you do not believe in what has been factually proven to not work. There is no line between fear and respect because they are just completely different things. Fear should not be present in any family structure. As a child your parents are supposed to be the only people that you can feel 100% safe around at all times. If a child fears their parents they have failed that fundamental role that they are supposed to fulfill. The difference between your child fearing and respecting you is the difference between whether they call you or not when they are in a really dangerous environment, or in any situation where they need help. A child that fears you will fear you more than they will fear whatever trouble they are in, they will not call, because to that child the parent presents a bigger threat than whatever situation they are in, and who knows what can happen if they don't call. A child that respects their parents is a child that loves their parents, and a child that trusts them, that child will call for help because they know that their parents priority is to keep them safe.
The worst parents is when they have a kid that literally is just a little mouthy and does not get in trouble and they still abuse their child. My Mom for example. Just ruins the relationship. Did teach me the person not to be.
I was a good kid by most people’s standard but I was always getting grounded as a kid because my adhd would get me in trouble. Things that my mom thought were simple instructions would be lost on me with my undiagnosed disorder. My punishment was usually electronics being taken away, so no tv, computer, phones/ipods, DS. ect. However I was allowed to read so I read a lot as a kid because I was always grounded and had nothing else to do.
A few rules of thumb my parents teach me on parenting my kids. 1. Don't just punish bad behaviour, also reward good behaviour. 2. Punishment & reward must be appropriate level. 3. Set strict rules & punishment for breaking them, rewarxs for following them, and enforce them to the letter always. 4. Do not allow personal feelings into punishing bad behaviour, make it clear the punishment is NOT because parent is angry at the child, but the bad behaviour is objectively bad and therefore should not be repeated. 5. Take intent into consideration, if the child knows the bad behaviour is bad yet intentionally does it anyway, punish them. But is they don't know it was a bad behaviour or they did it on accident, teach them properly and just warn them not to do it again. 6. If they apologize sincerely, don't punish them, it's enough they know what they did was wrong and will try not to do it again. 7. Most importantly, be there for them in their education, don't just punish them and have them wallow alone in their sadness, get through it together.
tbh this kinda triggers my ptsd and rubs me the wrong way. I feel like they speak of discipline this way "install fear", "needs a beating" because they mean it small scale perhaps. idk but I was raised purely on those two terms. "must install fear", "beating will correct me". I was hit for the most unreasonable minor mistakes and even misunderstandings. home was like a war zone and I was afraid to go home everyday from school cause of this. now I only fear him, have 0 respect and think he's a vile human being who can't logic. all I see is red in his presence and avoid his sight at all costs. this clip probably means it in a small scale when it's reasonable but these exact words were used to justify years of torture
Hi, exCatholic school girl & Haitian Baptist Pastor's daughter here & that intro ALONE should tell you how traumatizing my upbringing was. 😅 Srsly, a huge swath of Millenial adults were outright abused under the guise of discipline, but at the same time, you didn't see us pulling the sh!t kids nowadays get away with. There's blissful ignorance, arrested development & then there's just outright mental retardation because denial is one *hell* of a drug. Kids, enjoy it while you can & parents, do your job as parents to prepare them for the realities of mortality before the world does.
Yeah I kinda hate the term soft parenting or that Connor called gants method as “playing the longcon” when the entire point of being a parent IS the long con You are LITERALLY raising a person into a different person the longer they’re alive. Nobody wants to admit that some people knowingly and unknowingly have kids because they get to play god. Like them mfs who get a little too much joy out of killing bugs and pests in creative ways. I ALWAYS say this and once got the more chilling response from a parent that sometimes you can tell what drives these kinds of parents and teachers (and even adults) is that having control over kids is the closest thing to power they’ll ever have and it just immediately went to their head. I never believed the nilhist view that power corrupts, I believe it purely reveals and??? Yeah, kids are smart AND dumb and literally don’t have the experience or skills yet to best bring how they think and feel into the real world yet. So it’s literally our job as parents/adults to use the experience WE accrued from growing to help them do the same. What does resulting into the same barbaric tactics, we’d never use against another adult as a means to get someone to do what we want accomplish in an impressionable kid? It’s literally the same logic preschool bullies fall into and it’s a dangerous mentality to get hooked on because of how effective it can be in the short term. I’m not even saying that it always spawns abusers. Moreso that it goes against the ways humans actually grow and learn and is backed statistically and historically to fail. It’s why beyond scared straight and military school dies out. There’s no perfect parent or method to parent, but corporal punishment is the one that’s a gamble with 0 wholly positive ramifications. It’s a short term solution for a long term problem, which is pretty shit when raising someone with the goal of living. It’s putting a bandaid on a wound and instills a fear of punishment and not an understanding of consequences And the world already has plenty of adults who think like that Generally it’s best to skew towards building and excercise this integrity so kids do it and teach themselves to weigh their options even when no ones around so they do good simply because it’s the right thing to do and not because they expect some sort of punishment and reward
Ik this is long and nobody readin’ all that, but I just realized that since corporal punishment creates a fear of punishment over a fear of consequence A lot of that mentality overlaps everywhere in adults but ESPECIALLY in incels and “nice guys” no wonder so many people are fucked 💀 One of the statistically objectively worse methods of parenting is the norm and is enacted on one of the only branches of people with physical and mental state of mind where they can’t defend themselves until they’re older when the damage has already been done 😭😭😭
What really instilled fear in me as a kid was the fact that my dad was a felon and he would not only beat the fuck out of me and my brother but also my mom
Things i've observed from spoilt unbehaved kids of bad parents is that often they're raised from parents who may want to have kids, _but not necessarily be a parent._ And often the first thing they imagine when wanting to have kids is when they're a baby, 5yo, 8, or 10. It's rare to find them imagining themselves when their kids are at 15, 18, 22, etc. No wonder many of them getting detached from parenting begins when the kids are heavy enough for them to carry. Because they were so caught up in the fantasy of having a child that they weren't ready for the reality of what that mean for the rest of their lives permanently..
You hit the nail right on the head. The majority of people don't even stop to think about the real consequences of having children and becoming parents. We're all indoctrinated to think that having children is something that *must* be done, to the point we brainwash ourselves into wanting it despite the multitude of risks and difficulties. The truly worst parts of all this is the willful ignorance and the unwarranted anger that *others* feel when *you* are having doubts about having children or straight up decide to not be a parent. It's absurd how deep the pressure is.
My friends, corporal punishment [spanking, hand swat, physical exercise, etc.] is illegal in Japan, so if you have kids and stay there ain't no way you'll be beating them [Ik you were joking abt beating at the beginning but just wanted to clarify]
I think to get the right balance of fear and respect, you need to balance the moments of discipline and displays of love and affection. As long as there is a balance, you're golden
Yeah no. Probably the absolutely worst take in the whole three years of Trash Taste serials. You can absolutely punish kids in every way possible that does NOT involve psychological and especially physical abuse. Joey is literal example of copium and stockholm syndrome, FFS.
I think in general most of us millenials grew up thinking it's" normal" and parenting has evolved enough that we should be able to raise children without punishing physically or mentally although sometimes even right parenting can't save you from bad genetics.
Yeah, this is a pretty bad take all things considered, but I do appreciate Garnt taking a step back and acknowledging the risk of deep rooted scars. A lot of people tend to forget this, but learning discipline doesn't always stem from your parents but from your environment and the people you choose to surround yourself with. As I've grown older, I've come to realize that the reason I am the person I am today is largely because I've found positive role models to look up to, and my parents actually had little influence on my maturity. Of course, it differs for everyone, but this is how it played out for me, someone who actually endured corporal punishment.
Literally stole words from my mouth. This is the most disgusting shit I have seen and don't get me wrong i am a really really big fan of all of em but man are they really justifying trauma for life with "discipline "?? Like ew
Absolutely irresponsible behavior by Joey and Connor here to keep defending corporal punishments despite it being criticized heavily by childcare specialists and professionals. Really disappointing stuff by both of them to double down on this take. Your absolute ignorance on this matter shows how unprepared you guys are to talk about serious stuff like this that affects children worldwide.
My parents would hit me and my siblings but only when we were SUPER young and never with excessive force. A slap on the butt, a light tap on the back of the head, just enough to feel it for like 30 seconds and get the point across that we screwed up. And as we got older, they just stopped hitting and started counting. If we were still acting up by 3, then we deserved whatever retribution came our way 😅
Guys, a lot of people in the comments section keep on saying that corporal punishment is not good for disciplining kids, so what is then? I used to remember being an absolute hard headed little shit when i was younger, no matter how bad they would shout or tell me off, id still do it. I only stopped when my dad whipped out his leather belt and whooped my ass. Love it or hate it, it worked on me. Id like to think i grew up to be a good and responsible adult. So im curious, since a lot of people here hate the ass whooping, whats the right way to discipline a kid then? Especially those whose heads are so hard that no words will work at all
Well, especially countries where corporal punishment is against the law (i.e. Philippines, until Duterte's reign, then back again with the penalization).
Kids are vulnerable. I could not imagine looking at a 2 foot 4 year old and going, yeah let’s beat him. Adults have all the strength and power. Kids are learning, they begin learning as early as 6 months old. They take in their surroundings and their brain develops a response. They start to associate actions with either a negative or positive connotation (eg. crying or laughing) and by kindergarten, kids will have developed personalities, personalities shaped by the input of their environment. If you’re kid is misbehaving to the point that you need to beat them, what does that say about who you are as person or how horrible your behavior is? What does that say about the environment the kid was exposed to as a baby with a malleable brain?
Then you have to do what being a parent is: talk to them, invest time and have patience. If all that doesn’t work in any sense than there’s probably something mentally wrong with your child in the first place and you should consult a therapist for children.
The 'informed' people in the comment section won't answer because there is none. They best thing to do imo is to balance it. A child should know repercussions come when they do bad things. A simple talk wont work 90% of the time when a child still doesn't understand how the world works or developed common sense. People who say that a child has something wrong with them if they don't accept a talk are stupid. If all you do is talk, then they are going to develop were nothing bad happens when they do bad things, and we all see how this turns out with all the kids dying because of stupid things or the 'pranks' that cause others to get hurt. For a young child, a small light smack to the hands is enough in 90% of situations. When they get older and start to get attached to things like tv or electronics, the best thing to do is take away those things when they do something bad. Absolutely do not waiver if they complain or cry, because they are going to learn that they can lessen a punishment if they act up. Always remember to mind your strength because these are kids. It doesn't need to hurt, they just need to know that there is a punishment they don't like. Also, remember to develop with a kid. If a kid is attached to the parent, then every form of punishment or acknowledgment will mean more. On a side note, I find it hilarious that modern parents are telling others how to parent. We all know what modern parenting is and what happens because of that 'parenting'.
There is 2 punches in boxing one is the correct one witch is the strike. The other is the punch that pushes that is the incorrect of puch Joey got push punch.
I have cousins that were disciplined in a brutal way for me. The way I was told sounded really bad and I don’t if that’s really a way to discipline children. ‘Cuz they were hit by broom i think or something until they bleed whenever they do something wrong. Or to the point they have bruises but they said it’s a way of discipline.
I'm 5:18 in and praying it's all been sarcasm or those kids are going to resent their parents with the parenting talkied about so far. I'm not a parent, but I no longer speak to my parents, and for a plethora of other reasons, I no longer respect them either. Especially the man who I once called dad, and now no longer wish to acknowledge him even as a father. As for "the long game" I feel like my mother is the type of people manipulator that she feels like she can play the long game, but I am here to table flip her any time she even remotely enters my intrusive thoughts for more than a second. Let's just say that Everything Everwhere All at Once has greatly influenced how I see both of them, and in terms of personifying all their bad traits, I've see the "Jobutobaki" version of them enough to know they can not be trusted. So thats all I have to say.
the world of society is cruel if our parent didnt teaches us how how cruel it is the world does the diffrent is parents had limits but the society doesnt
I think some form or physical punishment to a certain degree is fine. I was a huge piece of shit back then that no matter what non physical punishment they give to me, i jusf keep being a little shit. Than 2 session of spanking and brooming later (Its not as bad as it seems, its was gentle enough that is not even leave any blemish but as a 12 year old its scary ) I am a changed man not because of the punishment itself, but what my mom said after that "Its enough that you got disciplined by me and not anyone else, because when you grow up and you keep being a piece of shit, other less affectionate people will disciplined you instead"
so i think im so what traumatized because of my parents and my teachers for how they acted towards me i fear that things i do get negetiv feed back for a long time also i was Bullied alot in school and form kids even my brother did mostly traumatized me but i still love my family i over come a lot of my trauma with becoming an adult but huh my parents never acted phisical but allways things like insult me and also their pusish ments since early age were mostly getting grounded but i remeber i cryed me to sleep as i was grounded i as i called my mom fat i was 5 at the time so i think i dont know if that was a good punishment for a kid with age 5
I remember the day my mom checked me out of school (elementary) walked me down a dirt path in front of my school gave me a whoopin then checked me back in
@@g100-w6j i think back on it and laugh...idk what I did at school that day to get my mom that mad. Funny enough a few years later (my 4 or 5th grade year) my mom started working at my school
Once my Nephew was so pissed off that he swore in the presence of their grandma. All 5 siblings (one of which is their mother). Clammed the usual banter and looked at him. He knew if he didn't apologise that instant, he would get a 5 sibling lynching for daring to speak such foul language in front of their granny. You damn straight he apologised and never EVER did it again. That boy loves to brag that he's a badass local boxer. But he knows full well, in an asian family. You push certain buttons. The knives are coming out. So stay in your lane.
Thats a very weird way to look at it. You don’t grow up to a certain age and magically understand empathy and ethics all of a sudden. Your understanding of empathy starts in your childhood by the way your parents raise you. Physical violence won’t teach children empathy it‘ll teach them that resorting to violence is a good way of handling conflict and it’s not random that statistics will show you that children who grew up getting beat will most likely end up being violent themselves. Even if you don’t end up becoming violent the other outcome most likely is what most Japanese adults are. A bunch of obedient workers who won’t question anything and see authority as some sort of deity.
Answering Connor's question "How does this happen?" Well in Brazil there r too many teenagers getting pregnant n becoming parents and two gen Z is definitely what we brazilians call the mi mi mi generation, meaning there's a problem with everything n anything they r never satisfied with anything n the trend nowdays specifically when it comes to raise children is to validate every emotion n behave they have which is leading to children thinking they can do whatever they want n they won't be punished.
My mom gave me punishment depends on what kind of mistake I did Example, if I litter on the house, she will ask me to clean the whole house If my sister and I are fighting, she will lock us up together in a room until we resolve out problems If I ignore my mom because of gaming, she will ignore me until I apologized But if I went to far, here comes the slap That's what I like and I would do to my kids if I will have them in the future Unlike my dad who just go punch or slap us so we didn't learn shit from him
I really do think that different kids require different types of discipline. For me as a kid, time outs were enough, boredom was my greatest enemy and I absolutely hated having to sit and do nothing for even a couple minutes. For my brother, time outs and such weren’t effective so he would be spanked. There isn’t a single type of discipline that’s going to work in every child, but that only means it’s the parent’s responsibility to find an effective discipline tactic because kids NEED discipline.
Don’t know about anyone else, but the fear of my parents being disappointed in me was always enough for me to not really misbehave
Like fear of my parents disappointed has guided me through out my life 😭😭
as a nihilist who's never cared about people's opinion of me...can't relate.
@@bloodlove93 well you absolutely cared enough to post this comment. perhaps you are looking for affirmation after all.
That if a very good sign. Because it means you hold your parents in high esteem and respect them enough to trust their wisdom. They have raised you well.
As a person who had 'asian parenting' growing up, I want to emphasize that before you even consider using physical punishments on your child, it's incredibly important to be there for them emotionally. If there is no open communication between both parent and child, that IS a form of abuse.
That is SO true. So many people (not just parents) completely miss the point of utilizing things like fear and disappointment (through physical punishments or not), which is to help the kid feel bad about an emotionally-bonded person feeling negatively towards them. Building up that bond with a child can bring the respect without the fear, and can help the punishments hit the mark without needing to resort to being overkill. Not to mention just straight up hitting kids you made no effort into befriending is just straight up abuse
There is never a circumstance where its okay to physically punish your child. Its child abuse 100% of the time and you are a terrible person and parent if you ever do it.
@@All-Outta-Bubblegum yes 100%. As a parent you decided to get a child and take the responsibility of raising and protecting the child (you could argue the biggest responsibility you can have as a human being). Resorting to physical violence and lashing out at a child that first of all doesn’t know any better and most likely got their behavior through your parenting skills is in no circumstances right. If you would beat your child you aren’t ready for one
3:15 I think a lot of the line between fear and respect is if you keep consistent with both rewards and punishments. The punishments also need to be proportional to what the kid did, like they broke their phone intentionally and they get the cheap burner phone and have to work to pay off the cost of the phone they broke before they get a good one. If they accidentally dropped the phone, they might end up with a cheaper phone but nothing else, since everyone fumbles a phone every once in a while.
If you punish a kid for a rule that they didn't know (that's not obvious for their age) it'll mess them up too. So if the their curfew has been 8 at night, don't change it to 7 without telling them and punish them for not knowing it.
This is why I have a good relationship with my mom but have nothing but scorn for my grandma.
My parents never really needed to use physical force against, my mum doing the ‘mum’ stare was enough to make me not misbehave💀
for punishments to work, the kid needs to sincerely believe that they deserve to be punished. it isn't enough to punish your kid. it also isn't enough to explain why they are punished. don't forget kids can also lie about if they understand
I dunno if kids lie on purpose about what they do or don't understand, it might be just how each kid processes the world around them is different. As someone who grew up ND in the '90s before there was much understanding about it (aside from just being seen as really shy), I didn't have the best ways to explain outright to the adults around me what I was experiencing without hindsight as an adult. It wasn't that I was completely nonverbal (save for a brief period of selective mutism when I was really little) - I just didn't have the tools and experience to communicate well, at least from my pov when I look back on my time growing up.
I also had times where I didnt realize I did or didn't understand things even when I thought I did or didn't, which, is unfortunately, something I've sometimes experienced in adulthood too (often out of fears of not being able to trust my senses/instincts well, after having grown up being told I'm not processing the world like I thought I was). I know not every kid grew up that way, but I wouldn't be surprised if lying about what they do or don't understand was never intentional for most kids. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Scarshadow666 i would lie to get out of uncomfortable situations. I wasn't even focused on whether or not I comprehend the world. but i do remember feeling shaken up and confused
working at an elementary school, so many students, mostly utk-2nd grade, just have the most spoiled behavior. when you asked them to stop doing something they're not suppose, they say "no, you can't tell me what to do!". if you try to take anything away from them as punishment, they start screaming and crying that you're being unfair. the office workers tell me so many parents dont even raise their kids themselves because they're "too busy providing", when the parents are divorced and/or the kid is raised by their 60+ year old relative
Right? Those kids make me so glad my 6yo son is so well behaved.
That's bull shit as I was raised by a single mother, and she definitely beat my ass when I got in trouble at school. Did I get in trouble afterward? Hell no! Also, do kids get detention anymore? Or do parents piss about that nowadays too? A teacher obviously can't lay hands on a child, but you can put them in time out, embarrass them in front of their class mates, etc. There are ways to make an example, and after that, it's between the teacher, the student's parents and the principal.
I believe most children go through a stage in there development where they act like a little shit
@Yunglex313 We were raised when physical discipline was a normal thing. Now, any physical action is abusive and mentally damaging.
You can't even embarrass them because that could lead to potential mental issues. Hell, one year I had to help proctor the kids taking their finals. I wrote a few kids' names on the board for not staying quiet, I got a light warning from the principal because doing that scared the kids that they couldn't focus 👀
@@Azninjazn were the the kids actually scared, or were you just told that? Because if they were, then that just sounds like those kids are a bunch of nervous wrecks
For Joey’s experience, i will preface that none of us *truly* know what the extent of his relationship with his dad growing up used to look like. We absolutely cannot label his dad with anything bad without getting to know more (which is none of our business now that Joey’s a grown adult). However from past trash taste stories we know for sure that his dad was very supportive of him growing up. And that sheds a light on an important aspect we need to acknowledge, which is that he befriended child Joey. That alone is a very crucial part of child discipline and basically allows for other methods to have a positive impact when they otherwise wouldn’t.
Also i think it’s very important to understand that Joey just sucked balls at telling this story lol a lot of it was caked in terrible wording which leads me to believe it isn’t nearly as bad as he somehow made it sound like.
When I did something wrong as a kid, I wasn't feeling guilty or something like that, I was scared that I would be physically punished and called different names. Not mentioning that I was depressed for 8-9 years and only recently started to feel a bit better, I'm just losing it when it comes to "physical" disagreement, and even if I would answer back, I'm scared that I might overdo it.
I hate this "Kids nowadays are acting like this because parents are too soft!!" When like, kids were acting like this and worse back when they were just straight up being beat. We just didnt have UA-cam to upload it all to.
Past Delusion: A behavior in which older people have a Rosier and very inaccurate view of the past, than it actually was. (70's hippie era, 80's sex drugs and rock and roll era, etc). its much like Orwel famously said: "Every generation believes itself to be wiser than the one after it, and more progressive than the one before it"
Ik Garnt just wanted to sink into his chair just hearing Connor and Joey just go off
Get your popcorn, get your popcorn for the comments here 🍿🍿🍿
Can I have caramel?
@@adwaitgore426 all I got is chocolate 🍫
*sigh* Here we go...
Barbeque please
two different people confessed to their parents commiting attempted murder pretty wild
people saying that they want their kids to be scared of them always sounds like some weird power fantasy
It’s literally a cycle of abuse, the boys need to get over this before they have kids, if they do, I hope they dont
I remember a past episode where Connor had a self righteous rant about Hayao Miyazaki and how he was a "bad father". But here he is advocating for physical abuse towards children. 😂😂😂
I mean I feel like some kids do need a moderate amount
cause for me my fear of the situation being "dad is pissed" formed my sense situational awareness and when I look at my brother, who I'm pretty sure has only been beaten like 5 times in his entire life, he fails to comprehend the most basic things like "why does my crying friend not want me to talk to him" "why do my parents get increasingly pissed when I just groan at their demands"
@@uggranpops8442 if you seriously believe emotional awareness is formed through the threat of violence than you definitely should never get children
@@gggallin8279 I mean that's fair but how do you think it's formed? cause I genuinely don't know any other way
@@uggranpops8442 i think a lot of people seem to forget that children aren’t born with a formed personality. Their personality gets shaped by their circumstances and their main circumstance are your parenting skills. If your child turns into a little monster it’s most likely either your fault or your own behavior that you either consciously or subconsciously gave to your children. If you‘re in a constant state of stress or negative emotion in general your child will notice that even if you try to hide it. The best you can do is getting children when you‘re a 100% ready for it but a lot of people believe that getting a child would help them or enrich their live when in fact they should help and enrich the life of their children and until you aren’t ready to provide unconditional love you aren’t ready to raise a child
@@gggallin8279 Spoken like a true non-parent LMAO
My mother's often the one who beats me up physically AND mentally when I do even the smallest mistakes regardless how mundane they are. But it's a lot different when it's my dad: He has a large amount of patience but the moment you press the wrong buttons, his beating is 3x as worse as my mom's. To the point that he made me bleed once.
Until now, as a young adult, I fear them but not out of respect. I barely remember when was the last time I feel that they genuinely care for my safety.
Man I hope you're okay cause i am in the same boat here... really disguisted with Joey making that joke(i just cannot stand it man, i know it's a joke but DAMN "Parents should beat their kids"
@@name_adi honestly Joey and Conner are acting like two absolute morons in this episode (and I don’t mean it in the usual fun way). Them seriously advocating for threatening your child with violence shows how unready they‘re to raise a child and how childish they‘re themselves. At least Garnt kept it real
I really do think that different kids require different types of discipline. For me as a kid, time outs were enough, boredom was my greatest enemy and I absolutely hated having to sit and do nothing for even a couple minutes. For my brother, time outs and such weren’t effective so he would be spanked. There isn’t a single type of discipline that’s going to work in every child, but that only means it’s the parent’s responsibility to find an effective discipline tactic because kids NEED discipline.
What I really appreciated from my mom(cuz well parents aint plural here), is that she noticed that I started disconnecting from her at 13 years old. So she looked into ways to still spend time with me and be interested in the things I like. She proceeded to watch through all the naruto and naruto shippuden with me. Each time during lunch and dinner we'd sit there and watch. We even watched all the filler episodes and movies. I am honestly so grateful for that core memory and the effort.
The first few minutes really honor this podcast's name XD. The video itself is not too bad, but I'll need a hazmat suit before traversing this comment section.
Nah fam i say let them cook, a lot of children have forgotten what the word "respect" means.
@@flyinggecko6617 Corporal punishment is still wrong though, as acknowledged by experts in that field. I am not saying kids shouldn't be punished and disciplined, a lot of children need that, especially nowadays. But there is a right way to do it.
@@flyinggecko6617everyone who says this was either a victim or pampered as a kid
@@kotorandcorvid4968Do tell us the right way.
@@ohav3893 Joey went full copium is clear as bottled water
When I saw my grandma be so pissed off that I was being a little shite, she picked up a concrete block over her head to throw it at me, that’s when I thought dang, I need to re-evaluate my choices in life 😂
That’s not discipline. That’s abuse…WTF did she do to your parent when they were a kid??
Thats... attempted murder...
Choices like putting her in a nursing home
That's quite funny. 🤣🤣 It's good that she didn't murder you.
A concrete block?! Bruh, forget discipline, that's attempted murder against a minor! 😰
Wow. Going through these comments makes me feel extremely blessed for having parents like mine. They never hit but they were really good at being threatening when i was throwing a fit. The disappointed sighs, the silence, or if i was extra mouthy, my dad’s “honey, get the hot sauce” which they never acted on but still worked on me lol. I only remember one time when i was a teenager where my dad slapped me for being a massive shit to my sibling, but i didnt feel sad about it at all because i was fully able to acknowledge by then that i really deserved it. So i just went on my day and forgot about it, until about an hour later when my dad came to my room and apologized to me for doing it. THAT was what made me cry and helped me continue growing the right way.
TL;DR no, hitting is not at all “needed”, and there are definitely other ways to teach a kid to feel disappointed in themselves for mistakes as they grow older.
Wow this one is actually reprehensible. What the fuck guys. Don’t physically abuse children ☹️
Don't hit your kids. It doesn't work. It is not a form of discipline it is a form of abuse. Several scientific studies have shown that the affects of corporal punishment are negative in the long term development of a child and do nothing to actually "discipline" them. Children misbehave due to a lack of proper parenting, which requires patience and understanding, as well as a firm approach. Proper parenting is not hitting your children. Hitting your children is lazy, in fact just as lazy as giving them an IPad and letting that do the parenting for you. If you wanna argue that there are benefits to hitting children, please stand in line with the anti-vaxxers, flat earthers and the healing crystal crowd, since you do not believe in what has been factually proven to not work.
There is no line between fear and respect because they are just completely different things. Fear should not be present in any family structure. As a child your parents are supposed to be the only people that you can feel 100% safe around at all times. If a child fears their parents they have failed that fundamental role that they are supposed to fulfill. The difference between your child fearing and respecting you is the difference between whether they call you or not when they are in a really dangerous environment, or in any situation where they need help. A child that fears you will fear you more than they will fear whatever trouble they are in, they will not call, because to that child the parent presents a bigger threat than whatever situation they are in, and who knows what can happen if they don't call. A child that respects their parents is a child that loves their parents, and a child that trusts them, that child will call for help because they know that their parents priority is to keep them safe.
The worst parents is when they have a kid that literally is just a little mouthy and does not get in trouble and they still abuse their child. My Mom for example. Just ruins the relationship. Did teach me the person not to be.
I was a good kid by most people’s standard but I was always getting grounded as a kid because my adhd would get me in trouble. Things that my mom thought were simple instructions would be lost on me with my undiagnosed disorder. My punishment was usually electronics being taken away, so no tv, computer, phones/ipods, DS. ect. However I was allowed to read so I read a lot as a kid because I was always grounded and had nothing else to do.
A few rules of thumb my parents teach me on parenting my kids.
1. Don't just punish bad behaviour, also reward good behaviour.
2. Punishment & reward must be appropriate level.
3. Set strict rules & punishment for breaking them, rewarxs for following them, and enforce them to the letter always.
4. Do not allow personal feelings into punishing bad behaviour, make it clear the punishment is NOT because parent is angry at the child, but the bad behaviour is objectively bad and therefore should not be repeated.
5. Take intent into consideration, if the child knows the bad behaviour is bad yet intentionally does it anyway, punish them. But is they don't know it was a bad behaviour or they did it on accident, teach them properly and just warn them not to do it again.
6. If they apologize sincerely, don't punish them, it's enough they know what they did was wrong and will try not to do it again.
7. Most importantly, be there for them in their education, don't just punish them and have them wallow alone in their sadness, get through it together.
Definitely bad parents, no justification for abuse
Take your opinion and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
*laughs in mexican* discipline is a necessary canon event.
"Go get me a switch from outside and don't let it be a little one"
I thought this was a joke from community. I got may ass beat by my dad but he was fine supplying his own tools.
"Don't make me take you to the bridge!" 🤣
tbh this kinda triggers my ptsd and rubs me the wrong way. I feel like they speak of discipline this way "install fear", "needs a beating" because they mean it small scale perhaps. idk but I was raised purely on those two terms. "must install fear", "beating will correct me". I was hit for the most unreasonable minor mistakes and even misunderstandings. home was like a war zone and I was afraid to go home everyday from school cause of this. now I only fear him, have 0 respect and think he's a vile human being who can't logic. all I see is red in his presence and avoid his sight at all costs. this clip probably means it in a small scale when it's reasonable but these exact words were used to justify years of torture
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AND HERE COMES MOM WITH THE FOLDABLE CHAIR!!
Hi, exCatholic school girl & Haitian Baptist Pastor's daughter here & that intro ALONE should tell you how traumatizing my upbringing was. 😅 Srsly, a huge swath of Millenial adults were outright abused under the guise of discipline, but at the same time, you didn't see us pulling the sh!t kids nowadays get away with. There's blissful ignorance, arrested development & then there's just outright mental retardation because denial is one *hell* of a drug.
Kids, enjoy it while you can & parents, do your job as parents to prepare them for the realities of mortality before the world does.
Yeah I kinda hate the term soft parenting or that Connor called gants method as “playing the longcon” when the entire point of being a parent IS the long con
You are LITERALLY raising a person into a different person the longer they’re alive.
Nobody wants to admit that some people knowingly and unknowingly have kids because they get to play god.
Like them mfs who get a little too much joy out of killing bugs and pests in creative ways.
I ALWAYS say this and once got the more chilling response from a parent that sometimes you can tell what drives these kinds of parents and teachers (and even adults) is that having control over kids is the closest thing to power they’ll ever have and it just immediately went to their head.
I never believed the nilhist view that power corrupts, I believe it purely reveals and???
Yeah, kids are smart AND dumb and literally don’t have the experience or skills yet to best bring how they think and feel into the real world yet.
So it’s literally our job as parents/adults to use the experience WE accrued from growing to help them do the same.
What does resulting into the same barbaric tactics, we’d never use against another adult as a means to get someone to do what we want accomplish in an impressionable kid?
It’s literally the same logic preschool bullies fall into and it’s a dangerous mentality to get hooked on because of how effective it can be in the short term.
I’m not even saying that it always spawns abusers.
Moreso that it goes against the ways humans actually grow and learn and is backed statistically and historically to fail.
It’s why beyond scared straight and military school dies out.
There’s no perfect parent or method to parent, but corporal punishment is the one that’s a gamble with 0 wholly positive ramifications.
It’s a short term solution for a long term problem, which is pretty shit when raising someone with the goal of living.
It’s putting a bandaid on a wound and instills a fear of punishment and not an understanding of consequences
And the world already has plenty of adults who think like that
Generally it’s best to skew towards building and excercise this integrity so kids do it and teach themselves to weigh their options even when no ones around so they do good simply because it’s the right thing to do and not because they expect some sort of punishment and reward
Ik this is long and nobody readin’ all that, but I just realized that since corporal punishment creates a fear of punishment over a fear of consequence
A lot of that mentality overlaps everywhere in adults but ESPECIALLY in incels and “nice guys”
no wonder so many people are fucked 💀
One of the statistically objectively worse methods of parenting is the norm and is enacted on one of the only branches of people with physical and mental state of mind where they can’t defend themselves until they’re older when the damage has already been done 😭😭😭
Yeah because crimes weren’t being commmited before??? Such BS. Don’t beat your kids.
Good parenting is just making kids believe that trauma is good
What really instilled fear in me as a kid was the fact that my dad was a felon and he would not only beat the fuck out of me and my brother but also my mom
Wait, your dad was a felon?! Jesus...
Things i've observed from spoilt unbehaved kids of bad parents is that often they're raised from parents who may want to have kids, _but not necessarily be a parent._ And often the first thing they imagine when wanting to have kids is when they're a baby, 5yo, 8, or 10. It's rare to find them imagining themselves when their kids are at 15, 18, 22, etc.
No wonder many of them getting detached from parenting begins when the kids are heavy enough for them to carry. Because they were so caught up in the fantasy of having a child that they weren't ready for the reality of what that mean for the rest of their lives permanently..
You hit the nail right on the head. The majority of people don't even stop to think about the real consequences of having children and becoming parents. We're all indoctrinated to think that having children is something that *must* be done, to the point we brainwash ourselves into wanting it despite the multitude of risks and difficulties. The truly worst parts of all this is the willful ignorance and the unwarranted anger that *others* feel when *you* are having doubts about having children or straight up decide to not be a parent. It's absurd how deep the pressure is.
My dad would threaten to hit me but he never did. My mom would slap me on the wrist tho
My friends, corporal punishment [spanking, hand swat, physical exercise, etc.] is illegal in Japan, so if you have kids and stay there ain't no way you'll be beating them [Ik you were joking abt beating at the beginning but just wanted to clarify]
discipline is a part of love and most parents love is weak which is why they don't discipline
I think to get the right balance of fear and respect, you need to balance the moments of discipline and displays of love and affection. As long as there is a balance, you're golden
Yeah no. Probably the absolutely worst take in the whole three years of Trash Taste serials. You can absolutely punish kids in every way possible that does NOT involve psychological and especially physical abuse.
Joey is literal example of copium and stockholm syndrome, FFS.
I think in general most of us millenials grew up thinking it's" normal" and parenting has evolved enough that we should be able to raise children without punishing physically or mentally although sometimes even right parenting can't save you from bad genetics.
Yeah, this is a pretty bad take all things considered, but I do appreciate Garnt taking a step back and acknowledging the risk of deep rooted scars. A lot of people tend to forget this, but learning discipline doesn't always stem from your parents but from your environment and the people you choose to surround yourself with. As I've grown older, I've come to realize that the reason I am the person I am today is largely because I've found positive role models to look up to, and my parents actually had little influence on my maturity. Of course, it differs for everyone, but this is how it played out for me, someone who actually endured corporal punishment.
Literally stole words from my mouth. This is the most disgusting shit I have seen and don't get me wrong i am a really really big fan of all of em but man are they really justifying trauma for life with "discipline "?? Like ew
I’m glad I’m not the only one who found this take bad, I absolutely love Trash Taste but this was just not it💀
Absolutely irresponsible behavior by Joey and Connor here to keep defending corporal punishments despite it being criticized heavily by childcare specialists and professionals. Really disappointing stuff by both of them to double down on this take. Your absolute ignorance on this matter shows how unprepared you guys are to talk about serious stuff like this that affects children worldwide.
This one ain’t it
My parents would hit me and my siblings but only when we were SUPER young and never with excessive force. A slap on the butt, a light tap on the back of the head, just enough to feel it for like 30 seconds and get the point across that we screwed up. And as we got older, they just stopped hitting and started counting. If we were still acting up by 3, then we deserved whatever retribution came our way 😅
I think silent treatment is quite scary cause your mother and father never see you in the same light again. That would always get to me.
Guys, a lot of people in the comments section keep on saying that corporal punishment is not good for disciplining kids, so what is then? I used to remember being an absolute hard headed little shit when i was younger, no matter how bad they would shout or tell me off, id still do it. I only stopped when my dad whipped out his leather belt and whooped my ass. Love it or hate it, it worked on me. Id like to think i grew up to be a good and responsible adult.
So im curious, since a lot of people here hate the ass whooping, whats the right way to discipline a kid then? Especially those whose heads are so hard that no words will work at all
Well, especially countries where corporal punishment is against the law (i.e. Philippines, until Duterte's reign, then back again with the penalization).
@@RosettaGR396 uhhh i dont think you answered my question
Kids are vulnerable. I could not imagine looking at a 2 foot 4 year old and going, yeah let’s beat him. Adults have all the strength and power. Kids are learning, they begin learning as early as 6 months old. They take in their surroundings and their brain develops a response. They start to associate actions with either a negative or positive connotation (eg. crying or laughing) and by kindergarten, kids will have developed personalities, personalities shaped by the input of their environment. If you’re kid is misbehaving to the point that you need to beat them, what does that say about who you are as person or how horrible your behavior is? What does that say about the environment the kid was exposed to as a baby with a malleable brain?
Then you have to do what being a parent is: talk to them, invest time and have patience. If all that doesn’t work in any sense than there’s probably something mentally wrong with your child in the first place and you should consult a therapist for children.
The 'informed' people in the comment section won't answer because there is none. They best thing to do imo is to balance it. A child should know repercussions come when they do bad things. A simple talk wont work 90% of the time when a child still doesn't understand how the world works or developed common sense. People who say that a child has something wrong with them if they don't accept a talk are stupid. If all you do is talk, then they are going to develop were nothing bad happens when they do bad things, and we all see how this turns out with all the kids dying because of stupid things or the 'pranks' that cause others to get hurt. For a young child, a small light smack to the hands is enough in 90% of situations. When they get older and start to get attached to things like tv or electronics, the best thing to do is take away those things when they do something bad. Absolutely do not waiver if they complain or cry, because they are going to learn that they can lessen a punishment if they act up. Always remember to mind your strength because these are kids. It doesn't need to hurt, they just need to know that there is a punishment they don't like. Also, remember to develop with a kid. If a kid is attached to the parent, then every form of punishment or acknowledgment will mean more.
On a side note, I find it hilarious that modern parents are telling others how to parent. We all know what modern parenting is and what happens because of that 'parenting'.
You guys actually have trash taste? I thought it was a joke :(
I am an Asian kid I already got a taste of the slipper, frying pan, the belt etc.
There is 2 punches in boxing one is the correct one witch is the strike.
The other is the punch that pushes that is the incorrect of puch Joey got push punch.
I have cousins that were disciplined in a brutal way for me. The way I was told sounded really bad and I don’t if that’s really a way to discipline children. ‘Cuz they were hit by broom i think or something until they bleed whenever they do something wrong. Or to the point they have bruises but they said it’s a way of discipline.
Man, a bunch of Simple Jack's are really pitching a fit over this over on the reddit 🤣
to me the stare was more mum so I called it the mum stare
Punishment shouldn't be pysical
Wait till u see Americans filming and doing stupid shit regardless of punishments
Seeing kids and even adults steal candy in america no wonder the country is crumbling.
I'm 5:18 in and praying it's all been sarcasm or those kids are going to resent their parents with the parenting talkied about so far.
I'm not a parent, but I no longer speak to my parents, and for a plethora of other reasons, I no longer respect them either. Especially the man who I once called dad, and now no longer wish to acknowledge him even as a father.
As for "the long game" I feel like my mother is the type of people manipulator that she feels like she can play the long game, but I am here to table flip her any time she even remotely enters my intrusive thoughts for more than a second.
Let's just say that Everything Everwhere All at Once has greatly influenced how I see both of them, and in terms of personifying all their bad traits, I've see the "Jobutobaki" version of them enough to know they can not be trusted. So thats all I have to say.
the world of society is cruel if our parent didnt teaches us how how cruel it is the world does the diffrent is parents had limits but the society doesnt
I think some form or physical punishment to a certain degree is fine. I was a huge piece of shit back then that no matter what non physical punishment they give to me, i jusf keep being a little shit. Than 2 session of spanking and brooming later (Its not as bad as it seems, its was gentle enough that is not even leave any blemish but as a 12 year old its scary ) I am a changed man not because of the punishment itself, but what my mom said after that "Its enough that you got disciplined by me and not anyone else, because when you grow up and you keep being a piece of shit, other less affectionate people will disciplined you instead"
Grew-up with the belt by my Mom. Best thing she ever did compared to kids these days >.>
You're a victim 🗣️🗣️
Bro they did not set you straight. You are still watching isekai
so i think im so what traumatized because of my parents and my teachers for how they acted towards me i fear that things i do get negetiv feed back for a long time also i was Bullied alot in school and form kids even my brother did mostly traumatized me but i still love my family i over come a lot of my trauma with becoming an adult but huh my parents never acted phisical but allways things like insult me and also their pusish ments since early age were mostly getting grounded but i remeber i cryed me to sleep as i was grounded i as i called my mom fat i was 5 at the time so i think i dont know if that was a good punishment for a kid with age 5
I remember the day my mom checked me out of school (elementary) walked me down a dirt path in front of my school gave me a whoopin then checked me back in
That's wild wtf😭😭 r u okay
@@g100-w6j i think back on it and laugh...idk what I did at school that day to get my mom that mad. Funny enough a few years later (my 4 or 5th grade year) my mom started working at my school
Man, raising kids and maintaining discipline is just really hard as a concept for it's a permanent responsibility so.... No thanks....
Once my Nephew was so pissed off that he swore in the presence of their grandma. All 5 siblings (one of which is their mother). Clammed the usual banter and looked at him. He knew if he didn't apologise that instant, he would get a 5 sibling lynching for daring to speak such foul language in front of their granny.
You damn straight he apologised and never EVER did it again. That boy loves to brag that he's a badass local boxer. But he knows full well, in an asian family. You push certain buttons. The knives are coming out. So stay in your lane.
I agree completely, until you can understand empathy and ethics after you grow up, the fear of punishment is the only way to control kids
Thats a very weird way to look at it. You don’t grow up to a certain age and magically understand empathy and ethics all of a sudden. Your understanding of empathy starts in your childhood by the way your parents raise you. Physical violence won’t teach children empathy it‘ll teach them that resorting to violence is a good way of handling conflict and it’s not random that statistics will show you that children who grew up getting beat will most likely end up being violent themselves. Even if you don’t end up becoming violent the other outcome most likely is what most Japanese adults are. A bunch of obedient workers who won’t question anything and see authority as some sort of deity.
My Nonna (Italian grandma; paternal grandmother) used to chase my dad around with a shoe as discipline 😂
the Australian was def abused
Answering Connor's question "How does this happen?" Well in Brazil there r too many teenagers getting pregnant n becoming parents and two gen Z is definitely what we brazilians call the mi mi mi generation, meaning there's a problem with everything n anything they r never satisfied with anything n the trend nowdays specifically when it comes to raise children is to validate every emotion n behave they have which is leading to children thinking they can do whatever they want n they won't be punished.
Based joey, respects and appreciates his parents.
Everyone hopes for a kid like that, on ya mate
This is funny but super fucked up
is joey losing weight
Didn’t know tis would turn philosophic
My mom gave me punishment depends on what kind of mistake I did
Example, if I litter on the house, she will ask me to clean the whole house
If my sister and I are fighting, she will lock us up together in a room until we resolve out problems
If I ignore my mom because of gaming, she will ignore me until I apologized
But if I went to far, here comes the slap
That's what I like and I would do to my kids if I will have them in the future
Unlike my dad who just go punch or slap us so we didn't learn shit from him
6:40
This is the most delusional I have seen them. Like that was just disgusting.
When I was 5 I back talked my mom so she poured hot sauce in my mouth. Also I got sent to military school as a teenager lol
Abuse
@@kotorandcorvid4968yeah
Your mom poured hot sauce down a 5 year old's throat? What
NGL That's a creative way of punishment although I think that's overkill.
@@shyguy5473 for what it’s worth it didn’t work lol
joey definitely didn't get beaten enough as a ch1ld, considering how he turned out
I really do think that different kids require different types of discipline. For me as a kid, time outs were enough, boredom was my greatest enemy and I absolutely hated having to sit and do nothing for even a couple minutes. For my brother, time outs and such weren’t effective so he would be spanked. There isn’t a single type of discipline that’s going to work in every child, but that only means it’s the parent’s responsibility to find an effective discipline tactic because kids NEED discipline.