For the “I’m tired” maybe it takes a lot of energy to change between forms and so he’s even more tired than usual in his human form for a bit and that’s why he doenst change forms much
@Lyriq Juniel what is your logic hear? i mean yeah same voice actor but if you were a va u wouldnt only voice one character would you? alex giving king and bill the same voice is probably just a reference? and in case u missed it bill is either gone forever or still in stan
The wizard of Oz was better. It's heavily implied in the later books that the hot-air balloon did get him home, and that for all be was a fraud he was a kind ruler. If prone to weird ideas. Like forcing everyone in the Emerald city to wear green lensed goggled that they couldn't remove. Or breaking the bridges into oz to keep the flying witches out... Or sending a 12yo girl to throw water on a ---- no ya know what they're exactly the same!.
I remember when Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond theory came out around the end of season one,. Later as show progressed it became less likely, only to shock fans later.
@@yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 *[what if he is Luz’s dad :0 because I saw fanart where belos takes his masks off and he looks at luz saying “happy to see me daughter?” but luz was just dreaming]*
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS: Hear me out- Belos is a Clawthorne. 1. In the AMA, when asked if we'll ever see Lilith's "raven" house, Danna responded with "birds are a clawthorne thing." I think that was really interesting wording. Belos is clearly shown to have some kind of attachment to birds. His symbol, his mask, even the portal reconstruction. There are birds everywhere. 2. His mask. Creators wouldn't put characters in mask unless their appearance gives something about them away. If he took off his mask, I think we'd see he has resemblance to Eda and Lilith. 3. The timeline. If Belos came to power when he was around 30, and created covens 50 years ago, that makes him around 80. That could be old enough to either be Eda's father, or, grandfather, which might make more sense considering she's mentioned her parents before and doesn't recognize Belos as her father. 4. His power. He was said to be the most powerful witch ever. Wouldn't it make sense if he was related to the second and third most powerful witches we've seen? 5. If Belos really is Eda and Lilith's grandfather, him being so old would be an explanation for how weak he is. He's shown to be powerful, but he clearly relies on technology and other sources (like the palisman, the giant heart, ect.) for his power. I think he's weak because simply of how old he is, not because he's a human. Another explanation could be that he was cursed. (Maybe when we get more information on Eda's parents we'll find out that his child cursed him!) I'm just saying. 6. This point isn't as cool, but his blue eyes also match Lilith's. 7. "Clawthorne" is perfect anagram (letters rearrange) for "the owl can" with an "r" left over. Perhaps "r" combines with "belos" to finish the anagram. I know Danna likes these word codes. 8. The acronym. Each name in this show has some kind of significance. I was trying to figure out what "Belos" meant, and I couldn't find anything. It occurred to me it might be an acronym, much like the first letters of each title from all the episodes in the show. If it is, then Belos would be a perfect acronym for all the Clawthornes we know. What I like about this one is that it's only possible if Belos is a Clawthorne himself. So in other words, you have to know Belos is a Cawthorne to figure it out. Belos Clawthorne Eda Clawthorne Lilith Clawthorne Obelo Clawthorne Salus Clawthorne B elos Clawthorne E da Clawthorne L ilith Clawthorne O belo Clawthorne S alus Clawthorne B.E.L.O.S. 9. I also realized that If his name is "Belos Clawthorne" that would make his initials BC, the same as Bill Cipher. That probably means nothing but it would be a hint that that's his last name if he has the same initials as the villain from the last show Danna worked on. 10. Also in the AMA, when asked what we will see from season 2, Danna responded with "parental conflict" as the first thing she listed. Perhaps she's referring to Eda and Lilith's parents as they would be a crucial part of season 2 if it is revealed they Belos is their grandfather. 11. In the episode "covention", Eda made a comment about her parents. This looks like a throw away line at first, but her parents would have a big part in this if her father is Belos's son. 12. And finally, the strongest piece of evidence I have. The last words in the rune code, when referring to Eda and Lilith, are, "Betrayed By Blood." If Eda and Lilith were both "betrayed by blood," and the Emperor is the one who betrayed them (which he did), then there you go. And obviously there's a big question if this theory is true: Does Belos know? Well, let me entertain both options. What if he knows? That means he most likely made Lilith the head of the coven because he knows she is powerful like him and wants to shape her in his image. And as for Eda, he knows she'll never conform to him and also knows how powerful she is, so he wants to destroy her. He's evil. Now, what if he doesn't know? This is actually really interesting. I have no idea what would have happened to lead to him never knowing his kids had kids, but it could lead to a super cool backstory episode about Eda's and Lilith's parents hiding them from Belos because they don't want them to get hurt. That would be cool. Anyways thanks for listening to my theory!
@@jimdoom2276 Eda's parents, according to an unconfirmed source. Even if they're wrong, I thought it was an interesting coincidence that their names happened to fit in this code.
Part of me believes King and other powerful demons of the past were taken down by the Emperor putting an end to the "Savage age" where demons used to rule over witches and encouraged wild magic. Just my theory though
King may have briefly knew what it was like to be human when he was in Luz's body, but even i'm curious as to what King would look like in his own human form.
Dana did say in that the mystery half face character was somebody we don't know. So that rules out it being king human form. And I hope that they don't make Belos a good guy. He's already evil so if he combines human and demon world, that he should just stay pure evil and continue with his evil plans. I feel like that would make a interesting plot.
She did also mention how she liked the person who would spy for belos. Like the one in the mask and cloak? Maybe him? Or maybe a new student at hexside?
I wonder what happens to palisman when their owners die. They might die as well, since they are bonded to their creators, but maybe they can also be passed on, to a new owner. If a palisman's owner is dying, but they don't want their own palisman to die as well, maybe there's a ritual to connect their palisman to a new person. This came to mind when thinking of all the Luz fanart with her using Eda's staff. Eda won't be around forever (I know she's only in her 40's, but you never know), and she wanted Luz to be the wielder of her staff. It would be significant for Luz to inherit Eda's legacy.
I can relate myself a lot to Luz because everyone is telling me to grow up but is there such a thing? I guess people don’t understand that’s my coping mechanism to somehow stop my out bursts and panic attacks. Escaping from reality.
For the most part 'growing up' is really just learning to care about people beside yourself. Most other traditional trappings of being a 'grown up' are just herd mentality behaviors, and vary from culture to culture.
About the collar theory, in sense and insensitivity, his collar gets switched out for the tie, and nothing changed about him other than him being superior over a bunch of teens.
Oh I can’t unthink the King’s Human Form Theory after noticing that ear... I also wanna point this out. Remember the whole Bill Cipher - King Connection Theory? Well I find it funny how both of their supposed Human forms have blonde hair and eyes matching to their true forms. For Bill: yes I know canonically he doesn’t have a Human form. I’m talking about both the one Alex Hirsch drew and the one the fans created.
i have two theories about belos. my first one is that he is part titan and my second one is that belos is eda and liliths father. i also firmly believe in the theory that amity’s mom had a play in edas curse
if hes edas and liliths father, why would he keep his own daughter cursed and even petrify them? unless he doesnt know that he is, but even then, it wouldnt really matter, since I dont see belos as a sentimental or fatherly type.
@@BlackReshiram huh. good point. i’m not even sure where that theory came from probably just something i thought of that would be good for like d r a m a
Maybe Belos is dying from magical reasons (like drinking unicorn blood in Harry Potter to live a cursed half life) and going to the human world where certain magic doesn't work is the key to saving his life.
I don't want to see King having human form. I prefer that he would be weaken by his collar because that opens cool space to improve his arc. Like an episode where he at the end would prefer to be cute and not a true demon. Probably new character is the Belos' right hand and scratched ear matched with King's horn is just a coincidence.
With the belos being a fraud theory, drawing on the King=titan theory what if emperor Belos did hear the will of the titan, with King using every last bit of suppressed titan energy (whether he knows about it or not) to give some sort of "call" to the ruler
Awesome video, Whitney! 🤘 And thanks for the shout out!💚 Interesting theories here! I gotta say though, watching this show was definitely the highlight of 2020 for me. One of the best animated shows I've seen since Gravity Falls! Also, I apologize for being MIA. In addition to being busy with work I've been extra depressed lately. I hope all is well with y'all!💜🖤
I have a feeling King is really the King of demons or he could have been a pet to the Titans. His collar must repress his true form and magic while also working as a charm to keep him out of danger while he's in this weakened state. I want to think he's actually a huge unhinged wild wolf-like beast that used to be a companion to the Titans that ruled over or kept in check the demons in the Boiling Isles.
Not to mention how king couldn’t see the gliff on luz’s phone until she draws it and kings says himself that “witches and demons used magic” going back on how you said how the capillary restrict his power
Ok here me out: what if the Day of Unity is the day that Belos plans to try and merge himself with the titan? As stated in the video he doesn’t seem to stray far from that heart in the castle as if it’s keeping him alive. What if he plans to merge himself with the titan somehow to control his decaying body and keep him alive forever? No? Probably not but it’s fun to theorize
NW: King is a talented writer King isn't a talented writer he only plagiarised Luz's story but he couldn't make a story on him own when the lizard asked him to
Thr theory of Luz being able to communicate with the Titan via glyphs made me think of when she learned the light glyph and when she tries to point it out to King he asked where it was. I dont think he could see the glyph at all. When at any point has any character besides Luz been able to see/point them out?
I had this question since the begining. Where does the elemental magic (fire, water, lightning, etc.) fit in? Most times when someone goes "I can do all magic!" they show it with doing elemental magic. (Eda with fire and water, E. coven with lightning and other) 🤔🤔🤔
WHAT IF this guy is the teacher from "First Day"? You know, the one that King take the place and go out of the school because everybody eat the donuts of the teacher's room
My personal theory of Belos is that he's a fallen angel from an Angel Realm (due to a lot of the angelic imagery), and the day of unity will connect the three realms
I actually have a theory (that doesn’t really have much proof if I’m being honest) that Titans are like Phoenix’s, when they die they are reborn. That could be why there was question marks next to Kings name for his age
Okay, this is gonna be a looooong ass tangent. I’ve been watching a ton of these owl house theories and I’ve noticed quite a few things about Belos and the narrator of this video said something that made my brain go *ding. So I’ve always thought the emblems that Belos uses are interesting, it’s a sword with two sets of wings on top of a triangle. Idk about the rest of you but that seems awfully, well, angelic. Two sets of wings, which he seems to also be using for his “portal” build, is a very angelic symbol and the triangle could very well represent the trinity. Also the gold and white coloring of his clothes and the tech he uses/is building just feels very angelic as well. If this is the demon realm, then could he have come from the “angel realm”? Is Belos trying to connect, not Earth and the demon realm, but the angel and demon realm? Is that why he is so obsessed with creating order and condemning wild witches? Does he have to use mechanical/palisman magic because his connection to power comes from his realm which he is now cut off from? Does he see himself as a benevolent source of order in an evil dimension? Is the demon realm hell? Also, his rhetoric “I have a connection to the titan and I speak for him” is very similar to Christian rhetoric used by old catholic priests and prophets. But it’s also used by a lot of cult leaders and is a just manipulation tactic. Idk I’m losing my damn mind.
Okay, I can't remember where I heard it but, I heard that there was some inspiration from the star was when making the owl house (this could also be something my brain came up with at three in the morning). So hear me out what if Belso is Luz's dad. We have never seen Luz's dad before and it would reminiscent of the Luke I am your father from star wars. Belso also has to eat talisman to keep strong and Darth Vader had to have a mask to keep strong and from dying. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Or.... King is just a small Demon who got into a fight and broke his horn and he was about to die when Eda stepped in and saved him and then Put a collar on (so the collar signifies the bond of him and Eda) He calls himself a king because he thinks he is a king like how some people say "I am the best" But that just a theory , a...
Honestly I heard a theory about king being the son of the last titan and he remembers his father being a hard ruler that's why he is the king of demons because he was the future king
2:24.. 60 degrees that come in threes, waches within birch trees, wached his own demotion burn, misses home and can’t return, says he’s happy he’s a liar, blame the arson for the fire, if he wants to shirk the blame he’ll have to envoke my name, one way obsolve his crime a different form a different time...
This video did bring up something interesting, When Belos was fighting Luz his eyes were blue which is the colour of the Illusion Coven. So the magic he used during the fight might have been illusion based. We’ve seen that illusion magic allows you to teleport and create matter out of nothing temporarily as we’ve seen from Gus. Belos was shown to teleport, talk in Luz’s mind and create matter and monsters from nothing and it all seemed to have a phantom feel. Perhaps based on what type of magic he consumes that changes his eye color and the magic he uses
You could also see in the photo when king says that he used to be really powerful his collar wasn't on and maybe because he lived so long he couldn't remember whether his collar or his crown gave him his power
Hey I just have a Easter egg kind of things in owl house . The door has a eye on it and that eye looks like something from gravity falls. Most probably bill cipher’s eye🤓
There was a short reference to starVS, but I see way more parallels to Shera. Hordak and Belos are super similar. Both seem to be in a weakened state. Both use alleged power to control minions without explanation of their true goal. If Belos is indeed stuck in the demon realm, that's another similarity to Hordak. Neither seem able to use natural or wild magic. Instead having to comebine tech and use someone else to combine it with magic. Turning well meaning characters into minions.
15:44 I believe TheNextBigThing had the exact same theory. I believe it was on his analysis on the episode ‘Covention’ check out his other videos too. They’re not bad
I think if the Titan did call for a human they'd want them to accomplish something for it, perhaps Belos headed it's call but proved unworthy and the titan made sure the key/portal didn't fall into his hands. Ending up with Eda instead, the one witch most opposed to Belos's rule. Her journeys to and from Earth would eventually bring one who would prove worthy, and once Luz made her way to the Isles trials and tribulations would show her true character to the titan. I don't think Luz was chosen from the get-go, but we'll see.
Actually, if I remember correctly, if you pause at the right moment, you can see more of Belos' backstory by actually reading the pages that are shown, and I believe that it says something about him being a crusader.
I think that bellos sees how strong luz is and how powerful she could be, and wants to get more humans to work as guards and soldiers. Or, he somehow knows about luz’s mom, and wants to bring her to the demon realm to threaten luz with her mom getting hurt.
I wonder if svtfoe, anfhibia (I don’t know how to spell it), owl house and gravity falls takes place on the same earth We do get hints through all the series that it is connected (through gravity falls) Anfhibia: they have there own version of Stan and soos, but this can be because of the secret message “there’s a soos in every universe SVTFOE: we know they are connected because in the finals of a show (can’t remember the name) the characters travel through other realities and we see both shows Owl house: there is both a wanted poster for eda and her staff in the gravity falls lost legends during the face story (there is also a theory that eda is stans ex wife by her personality and the way Stan describes her) If this is the case Disney could make a carton multiverses (kinda like what Cartoon Network did with nexus) and they could be building up for an amazing crossover
when we see the portal being remade be the emperor, there are wings around it, similar to the staff. it could alter the human realm, or maybe give immediate control on humans, but *you need traditional magic* for that much power.
Maybe the emperor IS related to Luz but as a uncle or grandparent , would explain why her mother wants Luz to be so “normal” and to stop her “active imagination”
following on the king's human from theory: what if the collar is an enchanted item like healing hat, green thumb gauntlet etc and turns the wearer into a demon if so id love to see this used on other characters (aside from eda cause that would probably just be owl beast number two) or he could be cursed like eda and its locks him in his cursed form either way im soo exited to learn more about the characters we know least about like king or the bat queen or owlbert OR EVEN HOOTY
How did Eda get her door to the Human Realm if it's so special, and the only one of its kind? I thought at least Emperor Belos would have something like that. And it's weird that she so casually sells Human Collectibles and opens that Human Horror House if the very fact she has human stuff blows her cover. Wouldn't anyone know it was her, even if it doesn't have her name on it (like it did in Once Upon A Swap)? You'd think someone would see her stand and rat her out to the Emperor's Coven, and even those that didn't agree with the law would be too scared to buy stuff from her and risk being arrested as well, even though humans must be considered very exotic on the Boiling Isles, and stuff from their world seems like it would be worth more money than Eda's selling it for. I know she's a wanted criminal, but it still seems weird to paint her as this struggling poor woman. Illegally selling interdimensional artifacts, you'd think she'd have it made, at least in terms of money. And how do witches and demons on the Boiling Isles have any human stuff (like Gus), or know anything at all about humans? They don't have doors like Eda, or Emperor Belos could've taken one from so many others besides Eda, and it would be ridiculous that he didn't have his own, being so rich and powerful. And I don't think everyone got their knowledge of humans and human stuff from Eda, or everyone would know her, and she'd have been found ages ago. How did nobody besides Lilith discover the Owl House anyway, and why wouldn't more people alert the Emperor's Coven when they see her at her stand? How does the Boiling Isles have any knowledge of humans whatsoever? Why aren't they more surprised to see Luz? I'm not convinced Eda's door is the only way to the Human Realm, but Emperor Belos seems pretty capable of finding out another way, yet he waits for months for Lilith to capture Eda, and goes through this whole process, when he could just have someone steal the key! And there's been several instances in the show where Lilith or another member of the Emperor's Coven could've easily stolen the door or key, but they didn't even seem to notice it! And if Eda is the only one with access to the Human Realm, it's more likely than ever that she's the one sending those fake letters to Camilla, which makes sense with how she goes there through her door without saying why, evidently being near Luz's house, and if it was just to get trash she'd probably just send Owlbert. But on the other hand, we know for a fact that Eda knows how to spell Luz's name, so I don't really know what to think. I honestly have no theory that could explain this.
I think it’s going to be like a supernatural type thing like when an angel has a baby with a human like the two entities combine it and make them basically all powerful so maybe he wants to Experiment with combining the 2 species to make an all powerful one
I have a little thought at the end of season 2 Lilith is gonna sacrifice her self for luz and because luz helped her along the way Lilith would give luz her power there are two ways that can work 1. Lilith can pass on the power to Luz so she wouldn't need a glyph
For the “I’m tired” maybe it takes a lot of energy to change between forms and so he’s even more tired than usual in his human form for a bit and that’s why he doenst change forms much
Hey hey hey I have the same pic
Well if you look around at this time (2:23) bill cipher is on a green sticky note i think this might be a animator joke, but, its still there so :)
@Lyriq Juniel what is your logic hear? i mean yeah same voice actor but if you were a va u wouldnt only voice one character would you? alex giving king and bill the same voice is probably just a reference? and in case u missed it bill is either gone forever or still in stan
why do I feel so weird like now that we know its hunter its weird to see people who thought it was king
So what your saying about emperor belos is....hes basically the wizard of oz
Dana did say that he was inspired by a popular character... 🌪
well then, i guess so
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No, he's the wizard of old.
The wizard of Oz was better. It's heavily implied in the later books that the hot-air balloon did get him home, and that for all be was a fraud he was a kind ruler. If prone to weird ideas. Like forcing everyone in the Emerald city to wear green lensed goggled that they couldn't remove. Or breaking the bridges into oz to keep the flying witches out... Or sending a 12yo girl to throw water on a ---- no ya know what they're exactly the same!.
After Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond, nothing is impossible
I know. If we find out Camila is Azura or belos and luz being related I will snap.
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Kaririguzo 0ra I will scream
@@silysister4815 I will say:
Wait, WHAT! What just happened here?
I D O N T U N D E R S T A N D A N Y T H I N G A N Y M O R E
I remember when Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond theory came out around the end of season one,. Later as show progressed it became less likely, only to shock fans later.
If Belos is human he is like: "I just want to go home :( "
When I heard that I was like:
What if he’s luz’s dad and doesn’t know?
@@yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 oh god
@@Pal-605 Exactly why he wants to go back -he has a l O v E r
@@yiayfanaphmaufanpopularmmo5035 *[what if he is Luz’s dad :0 because I saw fanart where belos takes his masks off and he looks at luz saying “happy to see me daughter?” but luz was just dreaming]*
Mabey
Imagine Hooty is secretly the last titan😭🤣
Mmmmm I havent seen season 2222 dont spoilllll
Mom come pick me up I'm scared
😱
nah bruh
I see hooty being the last titan, I mean, have you seen the guys legs
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS: Hear me out- Belos is a Clawthorne.
1. In the AMA, when asked if we'll ever see Lilith's "raven" house, Danna responded with "birds are a clawthorne thing." I think that was really interesting wording. Belos is clearly shown to have some kind of attachment to birds. His symbol, his mask, even the portal reconstruction. There are birds everywhere.
2. His mask. Creators wouldn't put characters in mask unless their appearance gives something about them away. If he took off his mask, I think we'd see he has resemblance to Eda and Lilith.
3. The timeline. If Belos came to power when he was around 30, and created covens 50 years ago, that makes him around 80. That could be old enough to either be Eda's father, or, grandfather, which might make more sense considering she's mentioned her parents before and doesn't recognize Belos as her father.
4. His power. He was said to be the most powerful witch ever. Wouldn't it make sense if he was related to the second and third most powerful witches we've seen?
5. If Belos really is Eda and Lilith's grandfather, him being so old would be an explanation for how weak he is. He's shown to be powerful, but he clearly relies on technology and other sources (like the palisman, the giant heart, ect.) for his power. I think he's weak because simply of how old he is, not because he's a human. Another explanation could be that he was cursed. (Maybe when we get more information on Eda's parents we'll find out that his child cursed him!) I'm just saying.
6. This point isn't as cool, but his blue eyes also match Lilith's.
7. "Clawthorne" is perfect anagram (letters rearrange) for "the owl can" with an "r" left over. Perhaps "r" combines with "belos" to finish the anagram. I know Danna likes these word codes.
8. The acronym. Each name in this show has some kind of significance. I was trying to figure out what "Belos" meant, and I couldn't find anything. It occurred to me it might be an acronym, much like the first letters of each title from all the episodes in the show. If it is, then Belos would be a perfect acronym for all the Clawthornes we know. What I like about this one is that it's only possible if Belos is a Clawthorne himself. So in other words, you have to know Belos is a Cawthorne to figure it out.
Belos Clawthorne
Eda Clawthorne
Lilith Clawthorne
Obelo Clawthorne
Salus Clawthorne
B elos Clawthorne
E da Clawthorne
L ilith Clawthorne
O belo Clawthorne
S alus Clawthorne
B.E.L.O.S.
9. I also realized that If his name is "Belos Clawthorne" that would make his initials BC, the same as Bill Cipher. That probably means nothing but it would be a hint that that's his last name if he has the same initials as the villain from the last show Danna worked on.
10. Also in the AMA, when asked what we will see from season 2, Danna responded with "parental conflict" as the first thing she listed. Perhaps she's referring to Eda and Lilith's parents as they would be a crucial part of season 2 if it is revealed they Belos is their grandfather.
11. In the episode "covention", Eda made a comment about her parents. This looks like a throw away line at first, but her parents would have a big part in this if her father is Belos's son.
12. And finally, the strongest piece of evidence I have. The last words in the rune code, when referring to Eda and Lilith, are, "Betrayed By Blood." If Eda and Lilith were both "betrayed by blood," and the Emperor is the one who betrayed them (which he did), then there you go.
And obviously there's a big question if this theory is true: Does Belos know? Well, let me entertain both options. What if he knows? That means he most likely made Lilith the head of the coven because he knows she is powerful like him and wants to shape her in his image. And as for Eda, he knows she'll never conform to him and also knows how powerful she is, so he wants to destroy her. He's evil. Now, what if he doesn't know? This is actually really interesting. I have no idea what would have happened to lead to him never knowing his kids had kids, but it could lead to a super cool backstory episode about Eda's and Lilith's parents hiding them from Belos because they don't want them to get hurt. That would be cool.
Anyways thanks for listening to my theory!
please please please please please make a video about this!
Who the heck are Obelo and Salus Clawthorne?
@@jimdoom2276 Eda's parents, according to an unconfirmed source. Even if they're wrong, I thought it was an interesting coincidence that their names happened to fit in this code.
This is so insanely cool I think it might be real
Holy crap- you are so freaking smart-
Part of me believes King and other powerful demons of the past were taken down by the Emperor putting an end to the "Savage age" where demons used to rule over witches and encouraged wild magic.
Just my theory though
that explains why king thought the snaggle back was powerful when really it wasn't
King may have briefly knew what it was like to be human when he was in Luz's body, but even i'm curious as to what King would look like in his own human form.
owl house: ends.
fans: oh no
amphibia season 2
fans: anyways
Sad
Did anyone else lutz magic didn’t work on earth
Dexter Pollard It was established that magic doesn’t work on earth.
It also went on hiatus.
@@okayyy423 😭😭😭
Dana did say in that the mystery half face character was somebody we don't know. So that rules out it being king human form. And I hope that they don't make Belos a good guy. He's already evil so if he combines human and demon world, that he should just stay pure evil and continue with his evil plans. I feel like that would make a interesting plot.
agreed
She did also mention how she liked the person who would spy for belos. Like the one in the mask and cloak? Maybe him? Or maybe a new student at hexside?
@@ares.peralta You are right maybe
I do wonder what King’s human form could look like. I’d imagine he’s gonna be like the kid that likes to spoil himself with tons of luxuries 👑 😎
Maybe he will look like a punk ass kid
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My personal favorite theory is that Belos is a Lich. A human Lich is still questionable, but I feel like he's a Lich none the less.
I wonder what happens to palisman when their owners die. They might die as well, since they are bonded to their creators, but maybe they can also be passed on, to a new owner. If a palisman's owner is dying, but they don't want their own palisman to die as well, maybe there's a ritual to connect their palisman to a new person. This came to mind when thinking of all the Luz fanart with her using Eda's staff. Eda won't be around forever (I know she's only in her 40's, but you never know), and she wanted Luz to be the wielder of her staff. It would be significant for Luz to inherit Eda's legacy.
I like to think when they die they go to bat mom and form their own families~
@@gingermaniac5484 aww, that's adorable
King could be wearing a skull for protection or the skull of a fallen friend in battle??
In King's Pokédex Entry, it states he wears the skull of his dead mother.
@@RyanSonic Never know?
I think the skull is his face
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He's tired of the bull. But then again, he was originally gonna be yellow.
I can relate myself a lot to Luz because everyone is telling me to grow up but is there such a thing? I guess people don’t understand that’s my coping mechanism to somehow stop my out bursts and panic attacks. Escaping from reality.
For the most part 'growing up' is really just learning to care about people beside yourself. Most other traditional trappings of being a 'grown up' are just herd mentality behaviors, and vary from culture to culture.
XoRandomGuyoX Yeah it’s mostly has to do with my anxiety and no one cares or truly understands it.
XoRandomGuyoX Thank you
Qua strait up evidence of how ballistic our society is
Eternally Learning tell me about it
About the collar theory, in sense and insensitivity, his collar gets switched out for the tie, and nothing changed about him other than him being superior over a bunch of teens.
Oh I forgot about that
Maybe it isn't right away, but after long periods of time without wearing the collar? Dunno, but I see what you mean.
Actually when king uses his scarf to get the contract it shows that he had the collar on the whole time
Oh I can’t unthink the King’s Human Form Theory after noticing that ear...
I also wanna point this out.
Remember the whole Bill Cipher - King Connection Theory?
Well I find it funny how both of their supposed Human forms have blonde hair and eyes matching to their true forms.
For Bill: yes I know canonically he doesn’t have a Human form. I’m talking about both the one Alex Hirsch drew and the one the fans created.
Did anyone else notice that when King body swapped with Luz, his hair was automatically slicked back in a similar way to the new mystery character?
yall remeber when we thought hunter was king cuz he had a slighty chipped ear XD (not hate just joke)
i have two theories about belos. my first one is that he is part titan and my second one is that belos is eda and liliths father. i also firmly believe in the theory that amity’s mom had a play in edas curse
if hes edas and liliths father, why would he keep his own daughter cursed and even petrify them? unless he doesnt know that he is, but even then, it wouldnt really matter, since I dont see belos as a sentimental or fatherly type.
@@BlackReshiram huh. good point. i’m not even sure where that theory came from probably just something i thought of that would be good for like d r a m a
Maybe the day of unity could be Belos reuniting himself with his home, what if he isn’t the Horde Prime, but instead the Hordak
I heard this theory that king was a child of the titan and he was copying his father explaining why he try’s to rule stuff animals
Maybe Belos is dying from magical reasons (like drinking unicorn blood in Harry Potter to live a cursed half life) and going to the human world where certain magic doesn't work is the key to saving his life.
looking at this theories in 2022 when s2 is finished...damn thefandom was crazy whith these theories.👁👄👁
My fan theory: I feel like if king’s collar were to be taken off, he would turn into a human (the one we saw during the livestream)
*_[hmm, interesting]_*
Ruby [Doc] OvO
I don't want to see King having human form. I prefer that he would be weaken by his collar because that opens cool space to improve his arc. Like an episode where he at the end would prefer to be cute and not a true demon. Probably new character is the Belos' right hand and scratched ear matched with King's horn is just a coincidence.
Yeah so didn't even see the correlation
With the belos being a fraud theory, drawing on the King=titan theory what if emperor Belos did hear the will of the titan, with King using every last bit of suppressed titan energy (whether he knows about it or not) to give some sort of "call" to the ruler
What if belos is a human that drinks palismen juice to use magic. Since staffs have some magic of their own
At least they got one right of king being a titan is right
Kings broken horn could be what he remembers his horns as or his many horns that just look like a crown. King might have some idea of his big form
The fight for the title of the head of coven now will play a part in how the Blights may affect Luz and Amity's growing relationship.
Awesome video, Whitney! 🤘
And thanks for the shout out!💚
Interesting theories here! I gotta say though, watching this show was definitely the highlight of 2020 for me. One of the best animated shows I've seen since Gravity Falls!
Also, I apologize for being MIA. In addition to being busy with work I've been extra depressed lately.
I hope all is well with y'all!💜🖤
I have a feeling King is really the King of demons or he could have been a pet to the Titans. His collar must repress his true form and magic while also working as a charm to keep him out of danger while he's in this weakened state. I want to think he's actually a huge unhinged wild wolf-like beast that used to be a companion to the Titans that ruled over or kept in check the demons in the Boiling Isles.
Here months later, NERP The golden guard isn't king and in episode 1 of season 2 you can see why.
Not to mention how king couldn’t see the gliff on luz’s phone until she draws it and kings says himself that “witches and demons used magic” going back on how you said how the capillary restrict his power
I don't even watch the show but I still watch the theory
You should watch it, it’s pretty darn good.
Just wait till October, it releases on Disney+ then
Imagine if Belos didn’t like and Luz is half titan which is why she is connected to the isle
I was thinking about something like that~ after all, her dad is never mentioned.
Ok here me out: what if the Day of Unity is the day that Belos plans to try and merge himself with the titan? As stated in the video he doesn’t seem to stray far from that heart in the castle as if it’s keeping him alive. What if he plans to merge himself with the titan somehow to control his decaying body and keep him alive forever? No? Probably not but it’s fun to theorize
NW: King is a talented writer
King isn't a talented writer he only plagiarised Luz's story but he couldn't make a story on him own when the lizard asked him to
Thr theory of Luz being able to communicate with the Titan via glyphs made me think of when she learned the light glyph and when she tries to point it out to King he asked where it was. I dont think he could see the glyph at all. When at any point has any character besides Luz been able to see/point them out?
That's me i was left my comments section on last week ago 0:43!
Wow
@@Luffytarr what wrong?
@@NookyBrownies-San nothing. It's cool they mentioned you!
@@Luffytarr yep!😎😎
I had this question since the begining. Where does the elemental magic (fire, water, lightning, etc.) fit in? Most times when someone goes "I can do all magic!" they show it with doing elemental magic. (Eda with fire and water, E. coven with lightning and other) 🤔🤔🤔
Okay the thumbnail is an incredible overshoot
My new favorite theory: Belos misses his mommy.
so you’re saying.. king’s pulling a shirou with his collar.
WHAT IF this guy is the teacher from "First Day"? You know, the one that King take the place and go out of the school because everybody eat the donuts of the teacher's room
I like the last theory of his eyes going with whatever type of magic he's using
My personal theory of Belos is that he's a fallen angel from an Angel Realm (due to a lot of the angelic imagery), and the day of unity will connect the three realms
I actually have a theory (that doesn’t really have much proof if I’m being honest) that Titans are like Phoenix’s, when they die they are reborn. That could be why there was question marks next to Kings name for his age
Vampire Queen was the most uncomfortable design IMO, until they revealed her to be a palisman.
Okay, this is gonna be a looooong ass tangent. I’ve been watching a ton of these owl house theories and I’ve noticed quite a few things about Belos and the narrator of this video said something that made my brain go *ding. So I’ve always thought the emblems that Belos uses are interesting, it’s a sword with two sets of wings on top of a triangle. Idk about the rest of you but that seems awfully, well, angelic. Two sets of wings, which he seems to also be using for his “portal” build, is a very angelic symbol and the triangle could very well represent the trinity. Also the gold and white coloring of his clothes and the tech he uses/is building just feels very angelic as well. If this is the demon realm, then could he have come from the “angel realm”? Is Belos trying to connect, not Earth and the demon realm, but the angel and demon realm? Is that why he is so obsessed with creating order and condemning wild witches? Does he have to use mechanical/palisman magic because his connection to power comes from his realm which he is now cut off from? Does he see himself as a benevolent source of order in an evil dimension? Is the demon realm hell? Also, his rhetoric “I have a connection to the titan and I speak for him” is very similar to Christian rhetoric used by old catholic priests and prophets. But it’s also used by a lot of cult leaders and is a just manipulation tactic. Idk I’m losing my damn mind.
Genius
Okay, I can't remember where I heard it but, I heard that there was some inspiration from the star was when making the owl house (this could also be something my brain came up with at three in the morning). So hear me out what if Belso is Luz's dad. We have never seen Luz's dad before and it would reminiscent of the Luke I am your father from star wars. Belso also has to eat talisman to keep strong and Darth Vader had to have a mask to keep strong and from dying. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Or....
King is just a small Demon who got into a fight and broke his horn and he was about to die when Eda stepped in and saved him and then
Put a collar on (so the collar signifies the bond of him and Eda)
He calls himself a king because he thinks he is a king like how some people say "I am the best"
But that just a theory , a...
SPOILERS DO NOT READ MORE IF YOU DO NOT WANNA BE SPOILED
King is Hunter? HAH
My theory is I think King was like luz except he was a elf and he went to hexside and got cursed and got turned into a demon
The thumbnail is a very very interesting theory especially considering kings affinity for naps
I think the "im tired" guy is the Golden Gaurd
Bruh king's eyes are more pink and the mystery man has dark red eys also the mystery character has eye bags but king is super hyper and excited
I mean it could be just "incredibly sad backstory" thing
There is also option of him actually just having been someone's pet :P
Honestly I heard a theory about king being the son of the last titan and he remembers his father being a hard ruler that's why he is the king of demons because he was the future king
2:24.. 60 degrees that come in threes, waches within birch trees, wached his own demotion burn, misses home and can’t return, says he’s happy he’s a liar, blame the arson for the fire, if he wants to shirk the blame he’ll have to envoke my name, one way obsolve his crime a different form a different time...
What if king was secretly the Titan giving the emperor all of the orders.
At first I thought the guy from the thumbnail is Yoshikage Ki-
*click*
Okay so with the bat queen, what if there were multiple palismans on the titans staff it hasn't been disproved as far as I'm aware.
Just imagine if that half drawn character was King's owner
I hate this comment but at the same time love.
Belos gives Hordak vibes, having power but is kinda weak, the decaying body, portal, green eyes. But it’s just me
This video did bring up something interesting, When Belos was fighting Luz his eyes were blue which is the colour of the Illusion Coven. So the magic he used during the fight might have been illusion based. We’ve seen that illusion magic allows you to teleport and create matter out of nothing temporarily as we’ve seen from Gus. Belos was shown to teleport, talk in Luz’s mind and create matter and monsters from nothing and it all seemed to have a phantom feel. Perhaps based on what type of magic he consumes that changes his eye color and the magic he uses
"King's red eyes-"
Wait, red? Am i colorblind cuz king's eyes look more purplish.
For me they are pink
Imagine if belos could *Actually* talk to the Titan but the Titan's spirit is being helded captive by belos.
You could also see in the photo when king says that he used to be really powerful his collar wasn't on and maybe because he lived so long he couldn't remember whether his collar or his crown gave him his power
Hey I just have a Easter egg kind of things in owl house . The door has a eye on it and that eye looks like something from gravity falls. Most probably bill cipher’s eye🤓
I agree with all of your theories about King, The Bat Queen, and especially, Emperor Belos as he’s definitely reminding me of The Wizard from Wicked.
There was a short reference to starVS, but I see way more parallels to Shera. Hordak and Belos are super similar. Both seem to be in a weakened state. Both use alleged power to control minions without explanation of their true goal. If Belos is indeed stuck in the demon realm, that's another similarity to Hordak. Neither seem able to use natural or wild magic. Instead having to comebine tech and use someone else to combine it with magic. Turning well meaning characters into minions.
King’s skull is a shrunken head of a Titan (Witches in folklore are infamous for shrinking heads)
15:44 I believe TheNextBigThing had the exact same theory. I believe it was on his analysis on the episode ‘Covention’
check out his other videos too. They’re not bad
I think if the Titan did call for a human they'd want them to accomplish something for it, perhaps Belos headed it's call but proved unworthy and the titan made sure the key/portal didn't fall into his hands. Ending up with Eda instead, the one witch most opposed to Belos's rule. Her journeys to and from Earth would eventually bring one who would prove worthy, and once Luz made her way to the Isles trials and tribulations would show her true character to the titan. I don't think Luz was chosen from the get-go, but we'll see.
Can you do Lumity theories and where it might lead to in the season 2
title: kings *human* form
me: *looks at my ears* yeah i dont thin hes human
Actually, if I remember correctly, if you pause at the right moment, you can see more of Belos' backstory by actually reading the pages that are shown, and I believe that it says something about him being a crusader.
belos being a big softie is rlly nice and a BIG plot twist
I think that bellos sees how strong luz is and how powerful she could be, and wants to get more humans to work as guards and soldiers. Or, he somehow knows about luz’s mom, and wants to bring her to the demon realm to threaten luz with her mom getting hurt.
I love ya Whitney! That Belos theory is crazy but totally believable!
who dear intrude upon i the king of sleep
I wonder if svtfoe, anfhibia (I don’t know how to spell it), owl house and gravity falls takes place on the same earth
We do get hints through all the series
that it is connected (through gravity falls)
Anfhibia: they have there own version of Stan and soos, but this can be because of the secret message “there’s a soos in every universe
SVTFOE: we know they are connected because in the finals of a show (can’t remember the name) the characters travel through other realities and we see both shows
Owl house: there is both a wanted poster for eda and her staff in the gravity falls lost legends during the face story (there is also a theory that eda is stans ex wife by her personality and the way Stan describes her)
If this is the case Disney could make a carton multiverses (kinda like what Cartoon Network did with nexus) and they could be building up for an amazing crossover
when we see the portal being remade be the emperor, there are wings around it, similar to the staff.
it could alter the human realm, or maybe give immediate control on humans, but *you need traditional magic* for that much power.
So wrong about king's collar, turns out it was just a dog collar. Cool theory about it though.
I drew what I think the whole face of the mystery character. Its my pfp
Nice
That Thumbnail
That Guy is like Pilot King's Human Form
lol
Edit :
Oh and maybe The Titan Sent King for a Mission
Maybe the emperor IS related to Luz but as a uncle or grandparent , would explain why her mother wants Luz to be so “normal” and to stop her “active imagination”
also with her phone she saw the gliph but king didnt and nobody else did ive always wondered about that
following on the king's human from theory: what if the collar is an enchanted item like healing hat, green thumb gauntlet etc and turns the wearer into a demon if so id love to see this used on other characters (aside from eda cause that would probably just be owl beast number two) or he could be cursed like eda and its locks him in his cursed form either way im soo exited to learn more about the characters we know least about like king or the bat queen or owlbert OR EVEN HOOTY
I feel like the shack when luz was chasing owlbert was belos’s old house-
How did Eda get her door to the Human Realm if it's so special, and the only one of its kind? I thought at least Emperor Belos would have something like that. And it's weird that she so casually sells Human Collectibles and opens that Human Horror House if the very fact she has human stuff blows her cover. Wouldn't anyone know it was her, even if it doesn't have her name on it (like it did in Once Upon A Swap)? You'd think someone would see her stand and rat her out to the Emperor's Coven, and even those that didn't agree with the law would be too scared to buy stuff from her and risk being arrested as well, even though humans must be considered very exotic on the Boiling Isles, and stuff from their world seems like it would be worth more money than Eda's selling it for. I know she's a wanted criminal, but it still seems weird to paint her as this struggling poor woman. Illegally selling interdimensional artifacts, you'd think she'd have it made, at least in terms of money. And how do witches and demons on the Boiling Isles have any human stuff (like Gus), or know anything at all about humans? They don't have doors like Eda, or Emperor Belos could've taken one from so many others besides Eda, and it would be ridiculous that he didn't have his own, being so rich and powerful. And I don't think everyone got their knowledge of humans and human stuff from Eda, or everyone would know her, and she'd have been found ages ago. How did nobody besides Lilith discover the Owl House anyway, and why wouldn't more people alert the Emperor's Coven when they see her at her stand? How does the Boiling Isles have any knowledge of humans whatsoever? Why aren't they more surprised to see Luz? I'm not convinced Eda's door is the only way to the Human Realm, but Emperor Belos seems pretty capable of finding out another way, yet he waits for months for Lilith to capture Eda, and goes through this whole process, when he could just have someone steal the key! And there's been several instances in the show where Lilith or another member of the Emperor's Coven could've easily stolen the door or key, but they didn't even seem to notice it! And if Eda is the only one with access to the Human Realm, it's more likely than ever that she's the one sending those fake letters to Camilla, which makes sense with how she goes there through her door without saying why, evidently being near Luz's house, and if it was just to get trash she'd probably just send Owlbert. But on the other hand, we know for a fact that Eda knows how to spell Luz's name, so I don't really know what to think. I honestly have no theory that could explain this.
???? Holy shit you explained that well-
If King is turned into a Witch in season 2, that would be very interesting and maybe funny.
I think it’s going to be like a supernatural type thing like when an angel has a baby with a human like the two entities combine it and make them basically all powerful so maybe he wants to Experiment with combining the 2 species to make an all powerful one
Theory: they used the rejuvenator to take king back to his base form :)
King’s collar subdues his power? Like Moka in Rosario + Vampire? 👀
I have a little thought at the end of season 2 Lilith is gonna sacrifice her self for luz and because luz helped her along the way Lilith would give luz her power there are two ways that can work 1. Lilith can pass on the power to Luz so she wouldn't need a glyph
And the second?