On the issue of him wanting the officer charged with assault i fully agree this issue happened at the front door of his nieghbors apartment and she also told the officers he is not committing any crime he was colleccting signature the officers told her it dont concern her to stay out of it on her porch mind you whole time the nieghbor recorded incident the officer slammed his head against the patrol car and then feturn to bullie the nieghbor that recorded them then tried to forcefully take the man kids the nieghbor refused and had gthe children go inside her house all was video recorded not disputable very unlawfull arrest and assault aswell as attempted corrosion of the witness and children that officer was clearly trying to ruin his life with couple felony charges and tried to take the children too
Perhaps you have dealt with this in other videos but I wish you discuss "obstruction of justice" because most people are confused by it. It gets misapplied often. It it varies widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. For example, in this case the man was charged with "obstruction of justice" for failing to provide is i.d. Michigan's Penal Code Sec. 750.81d (7a) does describe the elements of an obstruction charge to include "knowing failure to comply with a lawful command." He could therefore have been convicted for refusing to provide I.D.. So many people watch UA-cam videos of individuals who refused to provide I.D. and are NOT arrested that they believe one must be confronted with a set of facts which would convince a reasonable person that they had committed a crime as defined in Terry v. Ohio before they must present I.D. Often this is not the case. U.S. Border Patrol a few years ago modified their "regulations" to permit them to charge an individual who refuses to answer the "Are you a citizen?" question with obstruction on the legal theory that someone doing so is attempting to disrupt the "lawful" operation of a check point by either blocking the flow of traffic or by drawing officers away from their inspection duties. I do not believe a case involving the Border Patrol has been through the courts yet. But I do believe that judges have ruled that even when the purpose of the original stop was invalid that if the officer has a "good faith belief" that he is acting in accordance with the law that an individual is required to provide an I.D. as if they were being lawfully detained. I wish more lawyers would discuss this specifically in cases like this where the failure to I.D. is at the heart of the issue. My belief is that in most cases you are required to show I.D. unless you can point to a specific thing which the officer says which would invalidate his stop. An example of this is when a individual was filming in public. He was detained by an officer who demands his I.D. The individual wisely asked, "That's it? Once I give you my I.D. I will be free to go?" And the officer answers, "Yes." The individual then refuses to provide his I.D. on the grounds that by his own statement the officer has admitted that he is detaining the individual solely for the purpose of identifying him which would violate the 4th Amendment.
@Two Black Labs ua-cam.com/video/2KPHJDz5NQM/v-deo.html Then can you explain this case? The district court found the original detention based upon the facts that 1) The police claimed to be aware of reports of break ins or vandalism of vehicles in the "area" and 2) The man was taking pictures of among other things vehicles in the "area." The court of appeals upheld the original detention as valid and consistent with Terry v Ohio.
I was arrested in 2020 when I was at an ugly sweater party. I was smoking a cigarette in the garage with the door open and some cops got a call that we were being too loud and when the police tried to speak with me I kept telling them that I didn’t want to talk to them. They tried to arrest me for obstruction because I wouldn’t give them my ID. After about 30 minutes of 4 officers literally wrestling with me to arrest me I eventually wound up in the street. After their sergeant showed up he finally told me I was being arrested for drunk in public. I was charged with multiple felonies. Obstructing, resisting arrest, assaulting officers, property destruction etc. I was looking at over 20 years in prison because I wouldn’t talk with police and the prosecution prosecuted me for almost a year before I got all the felonies dropped. It was crazy. And a huge waste of my and the cities time
Middletown CT, 2007 - I had a cop tell me that if I didn't consent to a search, I would be charged with "obstruction of justice". I (not knowing my rights at the time) "consented" because I was afraid of getting charged with a crime for not waving my rights.
@@schmidtythekidd I don't know but how does the boot up your arse feel to go along with the criminal record? If you're smart, which you clearly are not, you'll recognize that no where did I support the actions of the police. I made a simple and universally true statement... do NOT fight with the police. You are NEVER going to be in the right when you fight with the cops. Assert your rights, record them, get their names and badges and then use the courts, like I said, to sue the sh!t out of them when they violate your rights. Common sense.
To be “resisting arrest” there needs to be an arrestable offense. When no arrestable offense, there’s nothing to resist. Being arrested for no legal reason is called kidnapping...
@@heidikickhouse- see that's the problem, taking freedom disrupting a man's life should be for a tangible reason . It is too easy to arrest people , unless they attack the Capitol!
I know someone who became a cop purely to have power over others. The problem isn't just the few bad cops like this, it's that the rest of them usually protect these bad cops at any cost.
@@jblyon2 Given the duty; training; and honor that are meant to come along with the badge; gun; and hand cuffs, videos of cops caught doing something noble should outnumber the videos of cops behaving badly by 100 to 1, but sadly it seems more like 1 to 100. I'm no fan of crying "racism" every time a person of color is interacting with a cop, but this story does make me wonder about the races of the cop and Mr. Marshall.
Cops use to call it POP “pissed off police” before body cameras. Learned this from a dispatcher. Cause cops could just say refusing to ID “without probable cause”. resisting or obstruction
Reminds me of a story years ago where a guy was arrested because he was trying to pass off a $2 bill. The cop arresting him didn't know that there was such a thing as a $2 bill.
Man... had the same thing happen to me at the food court in the mall. Lol the teenager behind the counter didn’t even know $2 bills was real and called a cop over. Dude kinda looked at her like you can’t be serious 🤦🏾♂️😂😂
Imagine walking onto somebody else's property (while armed) *and demanding to know if they live there or not...and then having them charged with a friggin' FELONY just because they don't tell you their name.*
Unfortunately simply being charged with a felony can derail a person’s career and whole life. It doesn’t matter that it was dismissed, the felony charge will always come up in any background check for the rest of his life. That is enough for a lot of potential employers and organizations.
This is why dropping charges or opting not to bring someone to trial is not even close to enough. The charges MUST be erased/vacated/expunged in cases like this.
Our city has another police department do investigations. Their latest investigation is about a city council member being investigated for ethics violations.
Watch the video of how this officer spoke and behaved, and you'll no longer say it's unfortunate that a guy lost his job. That officer behaved horribly.
@@yadayada752 - the lady was a saint. But I’m disgusted that the cops aren’t being held accountable for abandoning the children at a strangers house? Yes the lady spoke to the children’s mom and offered to bring the boys home, but the cops did nothing to confirm that. So if the lady was part of some disgusting child trafficking ring, those 2 children would be gone. The cops falsely arrested dad. Then the cops endangered the safety of the kids. There was only 2 options; 1 wait for mom to come pickup the children. 2 call CFS. You don’t just leave kids to fend for themselves when you arrest the parent. (In this case the children were safe. Likely MUCH SAFER than with the police. But that was due to the fine upstanding compassionate lady.)
I feel like the courts as it relates to civil rights lawsuit is like the old insurance claims. First deny all clams, then to appeals where its deny all claims that set any precedence,.
There was a case here in Florida where cops told a driver to do one thing, another cop tells him to do something else. When he tries to comply with that command, one of the first cops then claims he was, "trying to run us over," yanked driver out with such force ramming him to the ground, breaking the driver's leg. Last I herd, the charges against the driver were dismissed, I believe the cop who broke the driver's leg had been fired, a law suit against police had been filed, and the state attorney was looking into prosecuting cop for assault under the color of authority.
Sadly, the tax payer will pay for it instead of the cop. Police should be required to supply their own insurance. No insurance, no work. That will not only keep them in line, but keep them from just moving to a different PD when fired.
@@markgriz No, if we allow their retirement to be garnished, then it open's the door for yours to be also. If a bad cop has to supply insurance to work. The insurance company will drop them when they become to much of a risk. No more money will be paid into their retirement while they can't work. Same result, yet protects your retirement money.
My dad used to get the cops called on him for mowing our lawn at 9 am on a saturday. Keep in mind we lived in a spacious suburban neighborhood. The first time they came out to make sure my dad wasnt being harrassed by the person who called and assure him he wasnt doing anything illegal. Then as the calls kept coming, they would come out have a nice conversation with my dad and then proceed to knock in the door of the neighbor for their continued misuse of the emergency number. Probably happened 4 or 5 times over a year before the message got through to the neighbor. Not sure if they were cited or not. But my dad enjoyed the kind conversation from the cops when they would come out.
@@brianm2238 my dad was/is a bit neurotic. Not going to get an argument out of me about his odd decision to mow that early. But the neighbor was equally neurotic, imo. For reasons related to and also outside the scope of this discussion.
@@brianm2238, writes _"so waiting a couple hours later to mow wasnt an option?"_ No it's not a f***ing option! He wanted to mow at 9 am, that's not unreasonably early! He has other things to do at 11!
But the grass is covered with dew at that time, its going to clump up and kill the grass and clog the mower; thats like the WORST time to mow (well during daylight hours anyway). But why didnt the dispatcher tell the caller "not illegal"?
@@mranonymous7183 That's something that always drives me crazy. An observer cop will let another blatantly violate law. In any other job, you're expected to stop your coworker from doing things wrong, but cops NEVER do. They even let their partners kill suspects without saying a word.
The deputy falsely imprisoned the the man soliciting signatures for his petition. There was a battery when the deputy put his hands on the man. The deputy then kidnapped the resident. So there are a lot of crimes the law enforcement officer could be charge with.
And how many DAs even try OR present bits and pieces to a Grand Jury that Guarantees there will never be any charges? Even if it's caught on Video, DAs "explain" it away. "Don't believe what you see, believe what I'm telling you".
I can't believe I saw the video of him being arrested just 2 days ago and now this update totally unconnected. Thanks for the update. Those cops were just out to mess with him after he even told him he was getting signatures and the neighbor who's apartment he was at even told the cops what he was doing and told them to go away. So sad all the way around.
What do you mean? They fired the deputy who did it, the prosecuter refused to prosecute. They didn't need a viral social media shaming to start taking accountability
You can bet that he knocked on the door of someone who was somehow involved with property management, or someone in property management saw him doing it. People LOVE to use the cops to create a confrontation they don't want to get into themselves.
Not necessarily...I live in a secured apartment building, if someone from outside the building knocks on my door they are 100% trespassing. Cops are getting called (non emergency) If it's someone from inside my building asking for something, they'll most likely get it, unless they're going around bugging everyone about it...that would be a call to building security. In either case, my duty is to mitigate the damages that result to myself from the tort. Playing police or security is generally a bad idea.
@@davidphillips1221 They're not trespassing against you, but they are trespassing against the building and its property management company. I live in a secured building as well, but the management office makes it very clear that if you suspect that someone is in the building and is not authorized to be there that you call them to handle it and NOT law enforcement, with the obvious exception of life or safety being at risk. Since the people here tend to be neighborly they will hold open doors for others so the peddlers (alternative energy supplier reps being the main offenders) do get in, but are chased off by staff as soon as someone reports it. I've never once seen law enforcement become involved.
@@jamesbael6255 Have you considered that, depending on the size of your apartment building, you have no way of knowing if someone lives there or not, *but* if that someone is trying to get signatures from tenants to form a tenants' rights organization, it's easy to figure out that they more than likely live there. I'm questioning your ability to make quality decisions from data that's simple to interpret.
I watched the video of this on the channel Audit the Audit. Fantastic channel btw. They actually go over the specific laws in each case and maintain the middle ground for the most part. Anyway, the video is insane. The way the police acted was disgusting. They then tried to get the woman's info who's place he was in front of. He tried to get stupid with her for a second but she made sure that wasn't about to happen.
From body cameras to the very neighbor who defended him at her porch that she was also filming, there is no way anyone cannot see a case of incompetence and a power trip.
Not just incompetence, but I would say unlawful. Qualified immunity only works when the situation is one where a reasonable officer could make a mistake. This is not such a case at all, because everyone except little children and the mentally incompetent know the man was breaking no law. Despite the obviousness of that, the deputies chose to assault the man, commit battery, kidnap him and deprive him of his civil rights. Deputy needs to go to jail.
Luckly it was caught on Ring camera and on cell phone camera by the resident. It was clearly expressed that he was getting signatures by the man who was arrested and the resident. Watch the video. There were 2 cops, the other cops just stood there looking at the ground. Thank God for the resident and filming and her Ring camera.
The channel "Audit the Audit" showed the footage and broke it down. If you haven't seen it, I think he does an excellent job of covering the laws with as little bias as possible.
@@Metroid-rg9pn officers often enforce non-existent laws. In fact I often think they more try to enforce non-existent laws than they try to enforce actual laws. BTW, love AtA videos. 😀👍
I still think that there needs to be some kind of criminal conduct charge for this kind of thing. Essentially the guy was unlawfully arrested, which I would argue is kidnapping. His kids were left without immediate supervision (though a neighbor took care to get them home), which is child endangerment. They also violently pushed him into the car, which is arguably assault and battery. If we throw the book at these foolish, idiotic cops, they'll be less apt to do stupid shit like this. I support the police who do good work. People like the idiots that arrested this guy deserve incarceration for being this stupid.
There is a shortage of trained law enforcement in many states/jurisdictions. We live in southern CA, and our city has its own police academy (6-month program)--but, the pay is mediocre (and the cost of living is fairly high), so police officers are always leaving, and the police dept is always hiring.
@@kenc2257 With overtime and on call time, police officers make much more than you think that they do. I live in California as well, and out town has a website where you can look up an officers pay. Very few make less than $150k and many are over $250k My guess is that the lower pay is either rookies, or part timers.
@@C10sRule More do, than don't. I'm guessing that you don't know the pay of cops in your town. I guarantee you that their yearly gross income is much more than you think. It would take a really lazy officer to make less than $150k
@@C10sRule Oh, wow, your Canadian. I didn't realize that you are an expert on US law enforcement. Out of the 50 states, and thousands of cities town, and counties in the US, which of these do you have police pay statistics for? Also, I can't speak for your officers, however, in the USA good officers are few and far between. When you ignore bad cops, cover for bad cops, and accept bad cops, you are NOT a good cop. Your job is law enforcement. If you don't enforce the law on bad cops, you are just as bad as the bad cop. You are allowing it to go on forever. When police start arresting abusive and or criminal cops. Then I will believe that there are good cops. Not until then.
I actually saw the video of this incident way before seeing this one and I’m absolutely glad this cop was fired. Not only was there zero credible reason for cops to be called, the fact that people other than the guy arrested had told police exactly what he was doing and the fact that he was indeed on his property should have ended police contact immediately. This police officer made demands of ID and information he was obviously not entitled to under the circumstances making obstruction a ridiculous charge. It was also a pretty rough arrest, especially since there being zero evidence of any law being broken whatsoever to the point this officer actually invented a law and this man still wouldn’t have been in violation of that one either! It was also clearly caught on tape that the officer attacked this gentleman while placing him in the police vehicle as well as making thinly veiled threats towards the witnesses filming the incident. There needs to be a shift in policing overall I think, the police response needs to be kept in proportion with the violations being investigated for starters. It seems people are being violently taken into custody for the most minor of infractions, in many cases using similar force as they would for serious crimes or violent offenders. Even if a permit had of been required, it shouldn’t have required more than telling this man to stop or at worst issued a citation. There is also the issue of police up selling charges against people for the sole purpose of getting any kind of conviction to stick even when the purpose of the original stop was no more than curiosity. How does it even make sense in any manner that they attempted to turn this man into a felon, it shows absolutely no regard to a citizens rights or welfare and does nothing towards the greater safety of the community in which they are charged with serving. I think questions need to be asked of the court system also, why are there so many minor offenders being charged as felons and tied up badly in the system without recourse yet serious violent offenders seem to be given opportunity for repeatedly offending yet these non violent offenders (especially of low socioeconomic background) get put through the mincer, almost always serves their entire sentence without incident yet their lives are left destroyed because of these upgraded felonies. It seems there is a financial insensitive for prisons to be kept full which is definitely at odds with the concept of rehabilitation and only adds to the possibility of added criminal behavior in the future. Essentially the system is guaranteeing it’s own profitable future leaving little incentive for positive reform.
It all hinged on the man refusing to ID, since he didn't break the law. This deputy couldn't handle a citizen knowing and exercising his rights. It had nothing to do with him soliciting, or not. His ego was bruised, and he determined this man has to be a wanted felon, (or he was going to make him one) if he wouldn't "cooperate", and make things "easy", by giving up his ID, which would tell him absolutely nothing about what he was doing! The reason the deputy was fired, was because this story gained traction and was on the National news. The sheriff likely will be required to rehire the deputy, with back pay, for not following rules set up by the Union contract. The sheriff will quietly rehire him, and taxpayers will, once again, face the consequences!
13:42 "There were no laws broken ... Until the COPS showed up." _"There is no situation that cannot be made worse by calling the police."_ _(James Freeman, UA-camr, copwatcher, First Amendment auditor.)_
I’ve watched that video and the deputy escalated this whole thing because of his gigantic ego! Nobody refuses to do what he demands, I.e. - ID! It appeared to me, the other deputy, did not agree with what the other deputy was doing but, as usual, wouldn’t speak up!
Otherwise good cops standing by while bad cops do their thing is part of the problem. They have to get rid of this attitude of "I back my fellow officer no matter what". Back your fellow officer when you know they've done nothing wrong, yes. But backing a bad cop makes you a bad cop as well.
I’ve gotten totally dragged in by all the videos posted on UA-cam from across the country clearly displaying leo’s wantonly trampling the rights of citizens, and I must say it’s disgusting, unprofessional, and totally unacceptable behavior by those who have been granted such power by citizens who’s rights they swore an oath and get paid to protect. It shows that there are many in law enforcement that absolutely have no business with such authority. Smh.
Regarding police responding to idiotic calls, I recently saw a video in which a police sergeant told a subject that they have to respond to every call no matter how odd they may sound. The sergeant even said that if someone called about "birds in that tree" they would respond and investigate. (This was said while trying to justify why the police were violating the subjects 4th amendment rights by forcing him to identify himself to prove that he owned the car he was leaning on while eating his lunch, because someone had reported suspicious activity.)
he will get a job in another city and continue to ruin peoples lives. there are some people you can't put in charge of money and there are some people you just can't put in charge, fact.
Unfortunately, when I attended the California POST (1998-99), academy cadets are taught early in their arrest and report writing training to write for the greatest level/amount of a crime and concurring offences and enhancements (Resisting, obstruction, assault, et.al.) so as long as the elements of the offences can be roughly justified. This tactic affords prosecuting attorneys more leverage in negotiating plea agreements. It goes like this, criminal prosecuters: "Hey, we can reduce the felony assault charge to simple assault and drop the resisting charge if you plead guilty. You will do a bullet (1 year in county jail) for burglary. Otherwise, we can take it to trial, where all of the charges are put on the table, and if you are found guilty, you will serve a maximum of 12 years in State prison. There is Truth in Sentencing in this State. Therefore, even if you are paroled, you are going to serve 80% of the sentense. What is your decision?" Some officers become numb to the ramifications of an arrest and how it will affect people. Doing 12 hour shifts, 4 days a week, with 1 or 2 days of court appearances, one sets into a routine both physically and mentally. After a while, very little thought is put into how arrests affect good people who are caught up in the worst moments of their life. The law enforcement motto is: "Without Passion or Prejudice to Protect and Serve." Something drilled into cadets from the first day of orientation/inspection at the academy. The easy preventative measure is do not commit crimes and be warey of the company one keeps.
@@luxonlex4453 That is very true as regards them becoming numb at the actual ramifications of taking an innocent persons liberty, even temporarily. It can have a truly huge effect on a person's life, but seems just a routine thing to the cop.
@@glengraham7080 , I agree. At the time of my initial post the word or phrase I was looking for is "Desensitized". It is not just arrests that will do that to an officer. As the nature of the position dictates, officers are exposed to many unerving, gruesome and horrific situations. How many people outside law enforcement can describe their first close quarter decomposition decedent (Dead Body) that had been sitting in a house, in the middle of summer for 2 weeks before the smell outside the home provoked a neighbor to call in a welfare check? Not very many. I remeber my first D.B., yet I do not remeber my 10th, 20th, or 100th, unless the circumstances were remarkable. The problem is that police officers are human too, and they suffer all of the emotions and psychological impacts that everyone else does. They are not robots, yet that is what society expects of their performance and actions, on and off duty. After a certain amount of time, that is what you get. Officers with a flat affect, gallows humor and a seemingly dispassionate approach to people and circumstances,... basically, just robots. The letter of the law is cut and dry, black and white, no room for margins or error. Hence the spirit of the law dies along with their humanity. It is a sad reality that costs some innocent (presumably) people their freedom. Other times it costs officers their careers and their lives due to suicide. I wish there was a better option or way of addressing the enforcement of law.
What do you think the chances are that the person that called the cops either works for or manages that apartment complex. An organized tenant base would be a complete nightmare for the landlord of that property.
Agreed. But now there will be a "Streisand Effect " of exactly the opposite of what the 911 snitch intended - Glaring publicity and a tenant uprising / lawsuit ( s).
Police escalates their encounters because they can get away with it. Their badge, police union, qualified immunity and close relationship with district attorneys give them this sence of unaccountable.
It would be a little different if they knew a totally different district attorney would be looking at their police department's law breaking. No local district attorney should investigate their own police department since that is a conflict of interest.
I watch that video shortly after it had been put on UA-cam. That cop was an arrogant jerk from the minute he walked up on the porch. He was not only a jerk to the man but to the woman who’s porch they were all standing on. He would not listen to a word she had to say. Luckily she filmed the entire incident. The cop was a total bully and clearly did not know the law and did not want to listen to anyone. I think the other cop should’ve been fired as well because he did nothing to stop this ridiculousness. The children were traumatized and the cops were unnecessarily rough. They both deserve to be fired. We do not need cops like this who have no idea how to interact with the public and act like all of the public are criminals.
We need to start dealing with the people who precipitate these situations like the person who called 911 on this man and his kids. Second, why didnt the cops simply tell the caller that what they were reporting wasn't a crime and end it there?
Kinda funny how all the Karen's out there run to the phone to call the cops on legal, even mundane activity especially when the subject is black.. but at the same time people will just walk past acting like they see nothing when someone gets jumped.
My ex wife once called about a man who spent several hours sitting alone at a playground. This is not illegal. When the police arrived, he turned out to be a registered sex offender. Still not illegal, but a reasonable cause for concern. FWIW, he was living at a different address than the registry had, which was illegal but wasn't enforced and the address wasn't updated. The police told him to go home and stop creeping people out.
@@robertpetrovich1923 some dude sitting by himself for hours in a playground isn't exactly normal adult behavior. It is a red flag for what that guy was. But there are plenty of examples out there of cops being called for things like Black people walking down a sidewalk in their own culdisac neighborhood, picking up trash in their yard, sitting on the front porch of their home, working on a car in their garage with the garage door open, jogging, driving a car down a street, being parked in a parking spot, list goes on. But 1 glaring example wasn't even people calling the cops. It was the cops being proactive with the racial profiling.. there's a video on UA-cam of a couple white cops arresting a black man "who fit the description" w/o any reasonable suspicion or probable cause. All he was doing was sitting on a sidewalk bench on a crowded street sidewalk. Those handcuffs came off as fast as they went on when they opened his wallet to find he was an FBI agent..
Probably because they didn’t know. Legal scholars aren’t answering the phones. I suspect it’s assumed to be a job anyone can do so is low-paying. As Lehto said in this video, they should have some real training before being allowed to take calls
Well when the dispatch training and procedures are flawed and ingrained with discriminatory tactics this will continue. When people are not prosecuted for these calls nor are police being properly reprimanded for adding to this stupidity and or racism it will not stop. What the legal system conveys to the public is approval of the racism or discriminatory practice and we appreciate your willingness to help us harass those people. Yes its a case of those people until one day you become one of those people. Many of you think you are immune to this type of policing but one day you will find yourself in that harassed group I hope you experience the full force of that hate.
As a former 911 operator, I can say definitively that the vast majority of these types of instances occur because the callers embellish details of whats actually going on or straight make things up to get officers to respond. Had one where a woman told us a girl had been kidnapped, at gunpoint, and dragged into the back of a van, and was being sexually assaulted. What was really happening? A church group picked up a friend for services... In a marked church van.. all dressed in their Sunday best clothes.
Hmmm. Lets see... Petition for tenants association. My guess is that it was the landlord that called the police. How dare he try to get a tenants association going!!! Cheers, Steve
I watch quite a few of the 1st Amend, auditor type stuff. It's always amazing to me how, in so many cases, the cops escalate things to create a violation.
I just checked out the video of the interaction on ATA. How that should have gone is: "Evening sir, we received a complaint." "I'm a resident, getting a petition signed." "Thanks for your time sir, stay safe." Total time of 15 seconds. Also, where are the deputies masks? Multiple interactions per day with the public make them prime candidates for spreading brovid.
Police regularly escalate even the most mundane encounters, because that is how they are trained and who they recruit nowadays. A common mentality is "warrior training" which promotes seeing every non-police person as a threat. Police also encourage former military to apply as officers, who already have an "us vs. them mindset." I have had a cop roll up on me before with his hand already on his gun, demanding I show ID when I was on my own property, clearly sitting in a lawn chair with a big damn pitcher of ice tea by me. Someone (me) had called in a couple teen thugs vandalizing a vacationing neighbor's house. He only got held accountable because my next door neighbor (A. the head of the local neighborhood association, b. was a lawyer and c. was a friend of the mayor) came out and made a huge noise about police harassment. The police in this situation admitted wrong only because they had their feet held to the fire.
I personally believe there should be an official inquiry every time a cop aims a gun at someone. This should probably consist of people with no other connection to the police force, but with lawyers and cops serving to inform with regard to the relevant law and police practice. The inquiry should have the ability to commend the officer(s), approve the action, demand further training or even dismissal, or recommend changes in the law and/or police procedure if they feel there's a problem with it. It might help stop the problem of cops being too ready to use their weapons.
@Spike Elwood You were very fortunate that the pig did NOT arrest YOU for committing the murder. Never, ever, aid or assist law enforcement, unless YOU want to be placed at the very top of the 'persons of interest' list. Once they 'solve' the crime by arresting a person, it is up to that person to hire an attorney to attempt to prove your innocence. Even IF the badge wearing clowns have evidence that exonerates the person that they have in custody, they WILL NOT use it to free the innocent person.
you have described the sad state of the relationship between cops and civvies very clearly. nothing to add. it is a deplorable fact that nowadays we no longer feel safe upon seeing a cop. there once was a time cops really were serving and protecting. no longer. it appears that now they are out there to harass and intimidate, posing a real threat to innocents.
It is really sad when you see the type of people that police departments have working, I remember when you were happy to see a cop, that if you needed help you could trust a cop to help, now most are worried about what they may do and forget getting any help.
We have always had to worry about the police coming into our neighborhood. As kids, they often detained and questioned us just for playing or walking to the store to get sodas.
The emotionally underdeveloped and mentally unstable people who are “qualified” to become law enforcement officers is beyond comprehension. Solution: 1. 30 years or older. 2. College degree with at least a minor in constitutional law. 3. External oversight, review and monitoring of every member of law enforcement. 4. Higher salary to attract qualified people.
Mandatory 3rd party psych eval to exclude and permanently bar ANYONE that tests as having the markers for the kind of mental state/personality that would result in advise of power. also yearly or bi-yearly psych checkups to make sure those abuse of power tendencies and markers aren't developing over time. and ACTUAL STRICT CONSEQUENCES FOR CRIMES COMMITTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
@@SoloWryder It's a good point. The FBI, Secret Service, and CIA all require an undergrad degree. It doesn't matter what the major field of study is, just as long as they have one. Do you see videos of FBI, Secret Service, and CIA acting stupid? No.
@@douglasrowland3722 The FBI, Secret Service, and CIA all have physical requirements as well as a college degree requirement. I don't think I have seen any videos of them doing stupid stuff.
I'm tryin to put my finger on your specific quality that makes your videos so entertaining. I think I have it: It's you special appreciation of and reaction to irony.
I watch a lot of cop interactions videos and the sad thing is that when a cop arrests someone who is not committing a crime the knee jerk answer is well they need more training or retraining. That is just crazy. You give someone several deadly weapons and the power over other people you need to give them all the training beforehand not after.
Exactly. Amd the guys pulling shit like this , they don't need training they need to be given one strike warning and that's it . Abuse of power and punking and belittling citizens needs FIRING not training. Can't train someone to not be abusive and thats a fact.
I watched the whole video. IMO, there was assault and excessive force used by the officer for slamming the handcuffed prisoner into the car while putting him in the police cruiser. If he hadn't done that the officer might just have received a lecture on the law regarding solicitation and not lost his job.
@Black Labs Matter I understand that point but the entire point of accountability is the double standard therefore the only sustainable model is same crime same time type of model
@Black Labs Matter Simple, make an example of a bad department. Take a single really bad department and declare that they aren't a police department. Their personnel are an organized terrorist group that has infiltrated the police department for terrorist purposes. Then set loose counter-terrorism forces on them and treat them like ISIS. Every other police department in the country will sit down and shut up when you start drone striking and raiding their precincts with military counter-terrorism forces and black-bagging their people to CIA prisons in other countries. And it's all technically legal under federal anti-terrorism laws.
Is it possible that the city or county put that man out there without proper training. If so then the officer has a legal case against his employer for not requiring or providing proper training in law enforcement. Many deputies and municipal governments hire and on the job training is most of what they get. It’s only natural that recruit would assume the senior officer is giving good instructions in enforcement. I don’t believe any entity of government should hire a person that has not been certified in a complete understanding of the constitution and the bill of rights. Your not going to hire a person to work an ambulance unless they have the proper training so why hire for law enforcement without proper certification of the laws of the land.
I’ve seen this on video, there’s actually two dick headed deputies involved. The one that was fired is unbelievably stupid. It blows my mind how dumb cops are.
It's so rare to have a Sheriff or Police Chief own up so quickly , with our Lawyer's prodding to admit to his officer's wrong doing , and so quickly ! My hats off to him and for explaining it so clearly to everyone ! Well done Sheriff !
I hate that. I saw a guy one night passionately hugging a phone pole. I didn’t call the police. He obviously walked away with splinters. What were the police supposed to do?
Why aren’t the dispatch more trained on de-escalation? You mentioned many questions that could have dispelled the need for police to even show up. In many videos I watch the dispatcher could have asked a few more questions of the caller and it would have changed the interaction completely, if an interaction with police would even be warranted.
This sort of thing always makes me chuckle. I remember seeing a firm of lawyers in NJ once - I don't recall the name on the plate, but it roughly said "Joe Blow, Esq., Attorney-at-law." Immediately beneath was a small sign that read "No Soliciting." Which I find hilarious, as in other countries (e.g. Britain and Australia), a "Solicitor" is a type of lawyer, the sign implying that he possibly wasn't actually permitted to work there. America and Britain - it really is a case of two countries being separated by a common language. :-D PS: There's lots of jokes comparing solicitors to prostitutes...I'm sure you've heard most of them by now. :-)
Awesome shirt Steve ! I live in Heartland/-Brighton area and I truly appreciate your insight & intelligence and the way your a great story teller ! Thank You, Mike
Excellent video. I was sitting my car talking to my daughter-in-law about some important things, and happened to be parked in front of a house that was unusually close to the street. The woman came out and asked us why we were there, and I told her that we're just talking. She called the cops. Nothing happened. I told the cops to leave and they did. But they should have told the Karen to mind her own business.
I have a follow up video on this topic: ua-cam.com/video/UPZzdS30pfw/v-deo.html
just to clarify, in this case the phone call accused him of the 5th type of solicitation you mentioned, door to door sales.
On the issue of him wanting the officer charged with assault i fully agree this issue happened at the front door of his nieghbors apartment and she also told the officers he is not committing any crime he was colleccting signature the officers told her it dont concern her to stay out of it on her porch mind you whole time the nieghbor recorded incident the officer slammed his head against the patrol car and then feturn to bullie the nieghbor that recorded them then tried to forcefully take the man kids the nieghbor refused and had gthe children go inside her house all was video recorded not disputable very unlawfull arrest and assault aswell as attempted corrosion of the witness and children that officer was clearly trying to ruin his life with couple felony charges and tried to take the children too
@@robwolfholt618 YUP!! Exactly right! If that camera hadn't been there! It's hard to tell what that cop would have done to him.
Perhaps you have dealt with this in other videos but I wish you discuss "obstruction of justice" because most people are confused by it. It gets misapplied often. It it varies widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. For example, in this case the man was charged with "obstruction of justice" for failing to provide is i.d. Michigan's Penal Code Sec. 750.81d (7a) does describe the elements of an obstruction charge to include "knowing failure to comply with a lawful command." He could therefore have been convicted for refusing to provide I.D.. So many people watch UA-cam videos of individuals who refused to provide I.D. and are NOT arrested that they believe one must be confronted with a set of facts which would convince a reasonable person that they had committed a crime as defined in Terry v. Ohio before they must present I.D. Often this is not the case. U.S. Border Patrol a few years ago modified their "regulations" to permit them to charge an individual who refuses to answer the "Are you a citizen?" question with obstruction on the legal theory that someone doing so is attempting to disrupt the "lawful" operation of a check point by either blocking the flow of traffic or by drawing officers away from their inspection duties. I do not believe a case involving the Border Patrol has been through the courts yet. But I do believe that judges have ruled that even when the purpose of the original stop was invalid that if the officer has a "good faith belief" that he is acting in accordance with the law that an individual is required to provide an I.D. as if they were being lawfully detained. I wish more lawyers would discuss this specifically in cases like this where the failure to I.D. is at the heart of the issue. My belief is that in most cases you are required to show I.D. unless you can point to a specific thing which the officer says which would invalidate his stop. An example of this is when a individual was filming in public. He was detained by an officer who demands his I.D. The individual wisely asked, "That's it? Once I give you my I.D. I will be free to go?" And the officer answers, "Yes." The individual then refuses to provide his I.D. on the grounds that by his own statement the officer has admitted that he is detaining the individual solely for the purpose of identifying him which would violate the 4th Amendment.
@Two Black Labs ua-cam.com/video/2KPHJDz5NQM/v-deo.html Then can you explain this case? The district court found the original detention based upon the facts that 1) The police claimed to be aware of reports of break ins or vandalism of vehicles in the "area" and 2) The man was taking pictures of among other things vehicles in the "area." The court of appeals upheld the original detention as valid and consistent with Terry v Ohio.
"No laws were broken until the police arrived." A much too frequent occurrence...
It is acts like these, by the police, that put America 17th on the Human Freedom Index.
Isn’t that the absolute, ugly truth.
I’m more afraid of my children interacting with the police than a stranger.
@@larsonfraud4156 17th from the top or from the bottom?
Full disclosure: I am Canadian
The proverbial hammer, looking for something to nail!
The only reason they took action against the deputy is because the entire thing was caught on video and went viral on UA-cam.
Not to worry, he will soon be a cop again the next town over.
@@_DMAC With a raise
D mac don't worry the union will get his job back after everything dies down
It's amazing how contrite people in power can be when they're busted dead to rights - evil f****** c****.
Could you send link or title
I was arrested in 2020 when I was at an ugly sweater party. I was smoking a cigarette in the garage with the door open and some cops got a call that we were being too loud and when the police tried to speak with me I kept telling them that I didn’t want to talk to them. They tried to arrest me for obstruction because I wouldn’t give them my ID. After about 30 minutes of 4 officers literally wrestling with me to arrest me I eventually wound up in the street. After their sergeant showed up he finally told me I was being arrested for drunk in public. I was charged with multiple felonies. Obstructing, resisting arrest, assaulting officers, property destruction etc. I was looking at over 20 years in prison because I wouldn’t talk with police and the prosecution prosecuted me for almost a year before I got all the felonies dropped. It was crazy. And a huge waste of my and the cities time
Middletown CT, 2007 - I had a cop tell me that if I didn't consent to a search, I would be charged with "obstruction of justice". I (not knowing my rights at the time) "consented" because I was afraid of getting charged with a crime for not waving my rights.
Next time don't fight with the police. That is what the courts are for.
@@rhoonah5849how does the boot taste?
@@schmidtythekidd I don't know but how does the boot up your arse feel to go along with the criminal record?
If you're smart, which you clearly are not, you'll recognize that no where did I support the actions of the police. I made a simple and universally true statement... do NOT fight with the police. You are NEVER going to be in the right when you fight with the cops. Assert your rights, record them, get their names and badges and then use the courts, like I said, to sue the sh!t out of them when they violate your rights. Common sense.
There is no situation so minor the police cannot escalate it into multiple felonies. Sorry about the hassle.
To be “resisting arrest” there needs to be an arrestable offense. When no arrestable offense, there’s nothing to resist. Being arrested for no legal reason is called kidnapping...
Goddamn right!
@@heidikickhouse- true in some states, false in others from what I understand. Improper, clearly, but not always “resisting”.
Would be nice doesn't apply to blacks.
@@heidikickhouse- see that's the problem, taking freedom disrupting a man's life should be for a tangible reason . It is too easy to arrest people , unless they attack the Capitol!
Arresting officer "creates" arrestable offense. They are heroes that never lie.
I guarantee that cop has ruined a lot of lives. Cheating, lying on reports, covering up for his buddies, etc. The camera saved this guy
I know someone who became a cop purely to have power over others. The problem isn't just the few bad cops like this, it's that the rest of them usually protect these bad cops at any cost.
@@jblyon2 If you do not enforce the law, no matter who breaks it, that makes you just as bad as any bad cop.
@@jblyon2 Given the duty; training; and honor that are meant to come along with the badge; gun; and hand cuffs, videos of cops caught doing something noble should outnumber the videos of cops behaving badly by 100 to 1, but sadly it seems more like 1 to 100. I'm no fan of crying "racism" every time a person of color is interacting with a cop, but this story does make me wonder about the races of the cop and Mr. Marshall.
Like MOST cops in American harassing innocent Americans' Constitutional Rights.
and you can prove ZERO of your claim..
Ah yes, the initial _“ghost charge”_ that led to the add-on resisting and obstruction charges was *Contempt of Cop!* I have seen the video too.
Contempt of cop is punishable by a severe beating or death.
The man was arrested for contempt of cop.
Yep, like he/she said, contempt of cop. Rephrasing it to mention ego, or saving face, is a distinction without a difference.
how true! a butthurt cop will go a long way to abuse his state given qualified immunity to "pay back" over the presumed disrespect.
He wasn’t even contemptuous. He just wanted the facts and the cop was trying to skirt around what’s legal.
Cops use to call it POP “pissed off police” before body cameras. Learned this from a dispatcher. Cause cops could just say refusing to ID “without probable cause”. resisting or obstruction
My only question is did 2ND cop not know the law?
Reminds me of a story years ago where a guy was arrested because he was trying to pass off a $2 bill. The cop arresting him didn't know that there was such a thing as a $2 bill.
How do you live in this country for 18+ years without knowing about the existence of $2 bills??? I learned about $2 bills in 1st grade!!!!
Man... had the same thing happen to me at the food court in the mall. Lol the teenager behind the counter didn’t even know $2 bills was real and called a cop over. Dude kinda looked at her like you can’t be serious 🤦🏾♂️😂😂
@@ianbattles7290 research this phenomenon on UA-cam...there’s an entire documentary about it.
I remember that , just to easy too take a citizens freedom
You citizens have to know what the law is but law enforcement officials are not required to know.
Imagine walking onto somebody else's property (while armed) *and demanding to know if they live there or not...and then having them charged with a friggin' FELONY just because they don't tell you their name.*
Unfortunately simply being charged with a felony can derail a person’s career and whole life. It doesn’t matter that it was dismissed, the felony charge will always come up in any background check for the rest of his life. That is enough for a lot of potential employers and organizations.
Very true.
Yes, yes it can.
You think that cop wasn't aware of that . He knew the charges wouldn't stick so it was a gotcha charge .
This is why dropping charges or opting not to bring someone to trial is not even close to enough. The charges MUST be erased/vacated/expunged in cases like this.
@@MonkeyJedi99 even when the case is expunged, the arrest itself still shows up on a background check.
They usually investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong.
Our city has another police department do investigations. Their latest investigation is about a city council member being investigated for ethics violations.
Yeah, look at Comey, McCabe and all their cohorts!!! Nothing happens.😁😁🥲🥲
Deaths involving Police & other serious incidents, the state bureau of investigations conducts a review instead of the Police Department involved.
Natural reflex too find yourself not guilty right especially when you’re really guilty
Wonder how that happens.
"I don't think that word means what you think it means!" - - Best quote ever, Steve!
Inconceivable
How did Rats of Unusual Size not come up?
As you wish
Anybody got a peanut?
Watch the video of how this officer spoke and behaved, and you'll no longer say it's unfortunate that a guy lost his job. That officer behaved horribly.
I really loved the lady whose door he was at. She argued with those cops & protected those boys.
ua-cam.com/video/JIrKKwyTP1g/v-deo.html
@@yadayada752 - the lady was a saint. But I’m disgusted that the cops aren’t being held accountable for abandoning the children at a strangers house? Yes the lady spoke to the children’s mom and offered to bring the boys home, but the cops did nothing to confirm that. So if the lady was part of some disgusting child trafficking ring, those 2 children would be gone.
The cops falsely arrested dad. Then the cops endangered the safety of the kids.
There was only 2 options; 1 wait for mom to come pickup the children. 2 call CFS.
You don’t just leave kids to fend for themselves when you arrest the parent.
(In this case the children were safe. Likely MUCH SAFER than with the police. But that was due to the fine upstanding compassionate lady.)
@@klumpytheklown3798 You will notice at 5:30 into the video, the cop also decides to "shove" the handcuffed guy into the back of his car.
@@dericksmith2137 do not call Cfs child pedophile organization
Looks like this civil rights lawsuit will go fast with the cops admitting fault
I feel like the courts as it relates to civil rights lawsuit is like the old insurance claims. First deny all clams, then to appeals where its deny all claims that set any precedence,.
There was a case here in Florida where cops told a driver to do one thing, another cop tells him to do something else. When he tries to comply with that command, one of the first cops then claims he was, "trying to run us over," yanked driver out with such force ramming him to the ground, breaking the driver's leg. Last I herd, the charges against the driver were dismissed, I believe the cop who broke the driver's leg had been fired, a law suit against police had been filed, and the state attorney was looking into prosecuting cop for assault under the color of authority.
HOPE SO .
Cops purposely give conflicting commands to "justify" using violence against you.
Yes he was hauled off in cuffs in front of his children and slammed up against the patrol car for no reason. I'm sure a law suit will follow.
Once again the over burden tax payer will pick up the bill for the inevitable civil lawsuit that follows... 🤦♂️
@@shookoneldn300 Protecting and serving like a mofo.
Sadly, the tax payer will pay for it instead of the cop. Police should be required to supply their own insurance. No insurance, no work. That will not only keep them in line, but keep them from just moving to a different PD when fired.
@@randyfourtyeight7410 Lawsuits costs should be paid out of police retirement funds.
@@markgriz No, if we allow their retirement to be garnished, then it open's the door for yours to be also. If a bad cop has to supply insurance to work. The insurance company will drop them when they become to much of a risk. No more money will be paid into their retirement while they can't work. Same result, yet protects your retirement money.
"Someone" aka the apartment management that didn't want a tenant's association.
Some landlords just want to collect rent and do nothing to maintain it.
My thoughts exactly
My thoughts exactly!
They weren't apartments. He was knocking on the doors of houses on his block.
Oh yeah you’re right!
My dad used to get the cops called on him for mowing our lawn at 9 am on a saturday. Keep in mind we lived in a spacious suburban neighborhood. The first time they came out to make sure my dad wasnt being harrassed by the person who called and assure him he wasnt doing anything illegal. Then as the calls kept coming, they would come out have a nice conversation with my dad and then proceed to knock in the door of the neighbor for their continued misuse of the emergency number. Probably happened 4 or 5 times over a year before the message got through to the neighbor. Not sure if they were cited or not. But my dad enjoyed the kind conversation from the cops when they would come out.
It's funny how many nosey neighbors suddenly start minding their own business once the police knock on their door...
so waiting a couple hours later to mow wasnt an option?
@@brianm2238 my dad was/is a bit neurotic. Not going to get an argument out of me about his odd decision to mow that early. But the neighbor was equally neurotic, imo. For reasons related to and also outside the scope of this discussion.
@@brianm2238, writes _"so waiting a couple hours later to mow wasnt an option?"_
No it's not a f***ing option! He wanted to mow at 9 am, that's not unreasonably early! He has other things to do at 11!
But the grass is covered with dew at that time, its going to clump up and kill the grass and clog the mower; thats like the WORST time to mow (well during daylight hours anyway).
But why didnt the dispatcher tell the caller "not illegal"?
Cop wasn't confused, they got FILM! Happened more than people know!
If this is how these cops act when they know they are being recorded, just imagine how they act when they think nobody is looking...
There was a second cop there. Saw and went along with the whole thing. Was he fired as well? He needs to be.
Yeah, the cop was just pissed that a peasant dared to insist that he actually had rights.
@@mranonymous7183 That's something that always drives me crazy. An observer cop will let another blatantly violate law. In any other job, you're expected to stop your coworker from doing things wrong, but cops NEVER do. They even let their partners kill suspects without saying a word.
You got a link? I want to see this.
The deputy falsely imprisoned the the man soliciting signatures for his petition. There was a battery when the deputy put his hands on the man. The deputy then kidnapped the resident. So there are a lot of crimes the law enforcement officer could be charge with.
Exactly. Too little and too late. Steve is boot licking. No credit for thr firing
Also when he was slammed into the car needlessly.
And how many DAs even try OR present bits and pieces to a Grand Jury that Guarantees there will never be any charges? Even if it's caught on Video, DAs "explain" it away. "Don't believe what you see, believe what I'm telling you".
Yup arrest the clerk and everyone involved.
I can't believe I saw the video of him being arrested just 2 days ago and now this update totally unconnected. Thanks for the update. Those cops were just out to mess with him after he even told him he was getting signatures and the neighbor who's apartment he was at even told the cops what he was doing and told them to go away. So sad all the way around.
How on Earth do you get arrested for "resisting arrest" *when you weren't breaking the law in the first place???*
"We hold our selves to high standards"
When we get caught.
An apology like this from a top cop until recent days was as rare as being struck by lightning - three times !!
@Eric the Red still is unfortunately
What do you mean? They fired the deputy who did it, the prosecuter refused to prosecute. They didn't need a viral social media shaming to start taking accountability
When someone is watching
Sometimes.
This is a clear case of “ I have a badge you will submit to my will”
Yup. Instantaneously, if not sooner. And don't have any human reflexes.
a.k.a. "Contempt of Cop"
@Douglas Cherry Come on man, we all know the cops would just show up, blow you away, and claimed you reached for your gun.
You can bet that he knocked on the door of someone who was somehow involved with property management, or someone in property management saw him doing it. People LOVE to use the cops to create a confrontation they don't want to get into themselves.
Not necessarily...I live in a secured apartment building, if someone from outside the building knocks on my door they are 100% trespassing. Cops are getting called (non emergency)
If it's someone from inside my building asking for something, they'll most likely get it, unless they're going around bugging everyone about it...that would be a call to building security.
In either case, my duty is to mitigate the damages that result to myself from the tort. Playing police or security is generally a bad idea.
@@davidphillips1221 They're not trespassing against you, but they are trespassing against the building and its property management company. I live in a secured building as well, but the management office makes it very clear that if you suspect that someone is in the building and is not authorized to be there that you call them to handle it and NOT law enforcement, with the obvious exception of life or safety being at risk. Since the people here tend to be neighborly they will hold open doors for others so the peddlers (alternative energy supplier reps being the main offenders) do get in, but are chased off by staff as soon as someone reports it. I've never once seen law enforcement become involved.
@@davidphillips1221 There are signs posted on the property. If they are not staff, a resident, or an invited guest they are trespassing.
@@jamesbael6255 Your comparison is nowhere near applicable to this situation. The guy lived in a complex not a secured building.
@@jamesbael6255 Have you considered that, depending on the size of your apartment building, you have no way of knowing if someone lives there or not, *but* if that someone is trying to get signatures from tenants to form a tenants' rights organization, it's easy to figure out that they more than likely live there. I'm questioning your ability to make quality decisions from data that's simple to interpret.
I need a t-shirt that says "No laws were broken until the police arrived."
That's a good one. I hope the police don't see you wearing it, or you might be the next video!
Gold.
Love that u r right. If I need help I will call the Fire department
I'll buy one
True of all crimes, by definition.
I watched the video of this on the channel Audit the Audit. Fantastic channel btw. They actually go over the specific laws in each case and maintain the middle ground for the most part. Anyway, the video is insane. The way the police acted was disgusting. They then tried to get the woman's info who's place he was in front of. He tried to get stupid with her for a second but she made sure that wasn't about to happen.
From body cameras to the very neighbor who defended him at her porch that she was also filming, there is no way anyone cannot see a case of incompetence and a power trip.
Not just incompetence, but I would say unlawful. Qualified immunity only works when the situation is one where a reasonable officer could make a mistake. This is not such a case at all, because everyone except little children and the mentally incompetent know the man was breaking no law. Despite the obviousness of that, the deputies chose to assault the man, commit battery, kidnap him and deprive him of his civil rights. Deputy needs to go to jail.
Luckly it was caught on Ring camera and on cell phone camera by the resident. It was clearly expressed that he was getting signatures by the man who was arrested and the resident. Watch the video. There were 2 cops, the other cops just stood there looking at the ground. Thank God for the resident and filming and her Ring camera.
Bravo to the chief for acting swiftly and decisively.
The channel "Audit the Audit" showed the footage and broke it down. If you haven't seen it, I think he does an excellent job of covering the laws with as little bias as possible.
AtA's coverage is called "Officers Enforce Non-Existent Laws" for those interested.
@@Metroid-rg9pn officers often enforce non-existent laws. In fact I often think they more try to enforce non-existent laws than they try to enforce actual laws. BTW, love AtA videos. 😀👍
I still think that there needs to be some kind of criminal conduct charge for this kind of thing. Essentially the guy was unlawfully arrested, which I would argue is kidnapping. His kids were left without immediate supervision (though a neighbor took care to get them home), which is child endangerment. They also violently pushed him into the car, which is arguably assault and battery. If we throw the book at these foolish, idiotic cops, they'll be less apt to do stupid shit like this.
I support the police who do good work. People like the idiots that arrested this guy deserve incarceration for being this stupid.
I watch Audit the Audit regularly. Which episode was this?
@@MrRobt7770 thursday's episode.
"We were wrong. We admit we were wrong. Next time I promise we won't get caught."
Exactly; how often does this happen when the victim DOESN'T have a video proving their innocence???
If I wake up in the hospital, the first thing I want to hear is, "Hi I'm Steve Lehto. I'm an attorney. Wanna sue someone?" Cause yes sir, I do.
I wonder what department he's working at now? Guaranteed another jurisdiction picked him up
At least in Colorado that won’t happen. Officers fired for cause lose their state certification. They might find work in some other state, though.
There is a shortage of trained law enforcement in many states/jurisdictions. We live in southern CA, and our city has its own police academy (6-month program)--but, the pay is mediocre (and the cost of living is fairly high), so police officers are always leaving, and the police dept is always hiring.
@@kenc2257 With overtime and on call time, police officers make much more than you think that they do. I live in California as well, and out town has a website where you can look up an officers pay. Very few make less than $150k and many are over $250k My guess is that the lower pay is either rookies, or part timers.
@@C10sRule More do, than don't. I'm guessing that you don't know the pay of cops in your town. I guarantee you that their yearly gross income is much more than you think. It would take a really lazy officer to make less than $150k
@@C10sRule Oh, wow, your Canadian. I didn't realize that you are an expert on US law enforcement. Out of the 50 states, and thousands of cities town, and counties in the US, which of these do you have police pay statistics for? Also, I can't speak for your officers, however, in the USA good officers are few and far between. When you ignore bad cops, cover for bad cops, and accept bad cops, you are NOT a good cop. Your job is law enforcement. If you don't enforce the law on bad cops, you are just as bad as the bad cop. You are allowing it to go on forever. When police start arresting abusive and or criminal cops. Then I will believe that there are good cops. Not until then.
I actually saw the video of this incident way before seeing this one and I’m absolutely glad this cop was fired.
Not only was there zero credible reason for cops to be called, the fact that people other than the guy arrested had told police exactly what he was doing and the fact that he was indeed on his property should have ended police contact immediately. This police officer made demands of ID and information he was obviously not entitled to under the circumstances making obstruction a ridiculous charge.
It was also a pretty rough arrest, especially since there being zero evidence of any law being broken whatsoever to the point this officer actually invented a law and this man still wouldn’t have been in violation of that one either! It was also clearly caught on tape that the officer attacked this gentleman while placing him in the police vehicle as well as making thinly veiled threats towards the witnesses filming the incident.
There needs to be a shift in policing overall I think, the police response needs to be kept in proportion with the violations being investigated for starters. It seems people are being violently taken into custody for the most minor of infractions, in many cases using similar force as they would for serious crimes or violent offenders.
Even if a permit had of been required, it shouldn’t have required more than telling this man to stop or at worst issued a citation. There is also the issue of police up selling charges against people for the sole purpose of getting any kind of conviction to stick even when the purpose of the original stop was no more than curiosity.
How does it even make sense in any manner that they attempted to turn this man into a felon, it shows absolutely no regard to a citizens rights or welfare and does nothing towards the greater safety of the community in which they are charged with serving.
I think questions need to be asked of the court system also, why are there so many minor offenders being charged as felons and tied up badly in the system without recourse yet serious violent offenders seem to be given opportunity for repeatedly offending yet these non violent offenders (especially of low socioeconomic background) get put through the mincer, almost always serves their entire sentence without incident yet their lives are left destroyed because of these upgraded felonies.
It seems there is a financial insensitive for prisons to be kept full which is definitely at odds with the concept of rehabilitation and only adds to the possibility of added criminal behavior in the future. Essentially the system is guaranteeing it’s own profitable future leaving little incentive for positive reform.
Without arrests there is no overtime.
Well articulated and certainly evident.
He should not only have been fired but arrested also...
It all hinged on the man refusing to ID, since he didn't break the law. This deputy couldn't handle a citizen knowing and exercising his rights. It had nothing to do with him soliciting, or not. His ego was bruised, and he determined this man has to be a wanted felon, (or he was going to make him one) if he wouldn't "cooperate", and make things "easy", by giving up his ID, which would tell him absolutely nothing about what he was doing! The reason the deputy was fired, was because this story gained traction and was on the National news. The sheriff likely will be required to rehire the deputy, with back pay, for not following rules set up by the Union contract. The sheriff will quietly rehire him, and taxpayers will, once again, face the consequences!
Without prisoners how would the state staff their call centers.
13:42 "There were no laws broken ... Until the COPS showed up."
_"There is no situation that cannot be made worse by calling the police."_
_(James Freeman, UA-camr, copwatcher, First Amendment auditor.)_
I’ve watched that video and the deputy escalated this whole thing because of his gigantic ego! Nobody refuses to do what he demands, I.e. - ID! It appeared to me, the other deputy, did not agree with what the other deputy was doing but, as usual, wouldn’t speak up!
Otherwise good cops standing by while bad cops do their thing is part of the problem. They have to get rid of this attitude of "I back my fellow officer no matter what". Back your fellow officer when you know they've done nothing wrong, yes. But backing a bad cop makes you a bad cop as well.
The cops that watched Floyd expire have been charged.
I’ve gotten totally dragged in by all the videos posted on UA-cam from across the country clearly displaying leo’s wantonly trampling the rights of citizens, and I must say it’s disgusting, unprofessional, and totally unacceptable behavior by those who have been granted such power by citizens who’s rights they swore an oath and get paid to protect. It shows that there are many in law enforcement that absolutely have no business with such authority. Smh.
Regarding police responding to idiotic calls, I recently saw a video in which a police sergeant told a subject that they have to respond to every call no matter how odd they may sound. The sergeant even said that if someone called about "birds in that tree" they would respond and investigate. (This was said while trying to justify why the police were violating the subjects 4th amendment rights by forcing him to identify himself to prove that he owned the car he was leaning on while eating his lunch, because someone had reported suspicious activity.)
A felony is a serious issue but it seems law enforcement will try to charge you with one like it’s nothing.
he will get a job in another city and continue to ruin peoples lives. there are some people you can't put in charge of money and there are some people you just can't put in charge, fact.
Unfortunately, when I attended the California POST (1998-99), academy cadets are taught early in their arrest and report writing training to write for the greatest level/amount of a crime and concurring offences and enhancements (Resisting, obstruction, assault, et.al.) so as long as the elements of the offences can be roughly justified. This tactic affords prosecuting attorneys more leverage in negotiating plea agreements.
It goes like this, criminal prosecuters: "Hey, we can reduce the felony assault charge to simple assault and drop the resisting charge if you plead guilty. You will do a bullet (1 year in county jail) for burglary. Otherwise, we can take it to trial, where all of the charges are put on the table, and if you are found guilty, you will serve a maximum of 12 years in State prison. There is Truth in Sentencing in this State. Therefore, even if you are paroled, you are going to serve 80% of the sentense. What is your decision?"
Some officers become numb to the ramifications of an arrest and how it will affect people. Doing 12 hour shifts, 4 days a week, with 1 or 2 days of court appearances, one sets into a routine both physically and mentally. After a while, very little thought is put into how arrests affect good people who are caught up in the worst moments of their life. The law enforcement motto is: "Without Passion or Prejudice to Protect and Serve." Something drilled into cadets from the first day of orientation/inspection at the academy. The easy preventative measure is do not commit crimes and be warey of the company one keeps.
@@luxonlex4453 That is very true as regards them becoming numb at the actual ramifications of taking an innocent persons liberty, even temporarily. It can have a truly huge effect on a person's life, but seems just a routine thing to the cop.
It's called Throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.
@@glengraham7080 , I agree. At the time of my initial post the word or phrase I was looking for is "Desensitized". It is not just arrests that will do that to an officer. As the nature of the position dictates, officers are exposed to many unerving, gruesome and horrific situations.
How many people outside law enforcement can describe their first close quarter decomposition decedent (Dead Body) that had been sitting in a house, in the middle of summer for 2 weeks before the smell outside the home provoked a neighbor to call in a welfare check? Not very many. I remeber my first D.B., yet I do not remeber my 10th, 20th, or 100th, unless the circumstances were remarkable. The problem is that police officers are human too, and they suffer all of the emotions and psychological impacts that everyone else does. They are not robots, yet that is what society expects of their performance and actions, on and off duty.
After a certain amount of time, that is what you get. Officers with a flat affect, gallows humor and a seemingly dispassionate approach to people and circumstances,... basically, just robots. The letter of the law is cut and dry, black and white, no room for margins or error. Hence the spirit of the law dies along with their humanity. It is a sad reality that costs some innocent (presumably) people their freedom. Other times it costs officers their careers and their lives due to suicide. I wish there was a better option or way of addressing the enforcement of law.
What do you think the chances are that the person that called the cops either works for or manages that apartment complex. An organized tenant base would be a complete nightmare for the landlord of that property.
That's what I'm thinking as well.
Could be. But my first thought was probably just your standard issue busy-body. Every neighborhood has a few.
It probably was the manager
Agreed. But now there will be a "Streisand Effect " of exactly the opposite of what the 911 snitch intended - Glaring publicity and a tenant uprising / lawsuit ( s).
Every time a bad cop is fired and angel gets its wings.
The police was so bored that he could not resist to arrest someone for any imaginary reason.
This case was evidence they don't need the headcount lol
Wouldn't worry about the "overly enthusiastic officer",one week from now he will just being doing the same thing the next county over.
Police escalates their encounters because they can get away with it. Their badge, police union, qualified immunity and close relationship with district attorneys give them this sence of unaccountable.
It would be a little different if they knew a totally different district attorney would be looking at their police department's law breaking. No local district attorney should investigate their own police department since that is a conflict of interest.
I watch that video shortly after it had been put on UA-cam. That cop was an arrogant jerk from the minute he walked up on the porch. He was not only a jerk to the man but to the woman who’s porch they were all standing on. He would not listen to a word she had to say. Luckily she filmed the entire incident. The cop was a total bully and clearly did not know the law and did not want to listen to anyone. I think the other cop should’ve been fired as well because he did nothing to stop this ridiculousness. The children were traumatized and the cops were unnecessarily rough. They both deserve to be fired. We do not need cops like this who have no idea how to interact with the public and act like all of the public are criminals.
The fact that you need 4-10 times more training to be a hairdresser than a cop could be a reason that these things happen.
Best comment eva
@SittinginDetroit - have you ever tried to become a cop? Your comment holds no truth.
@@29VK05 which part?
@@29VK05 stand corrected it is 2-10
@SittinginDetroit- one cannot argue with a hater. Stay seated, don't get up.
Cop should be charged convicted and sentenced .
Accountability will never happen until cops are held accountable
''That man was SOLICITING! Worse still, His wife is a thespian''.
I hear that his children are practicing Homo Sapiens!
I’ve got a friend who’s a lawyer in Scotland who had to try and defend a client who assaulted a doctor because he was told he was a paediatrician
@@tumshie1960 Is stupidity a defense in the Scottish law?
I find myself being careful to use small words these days...
@@WhereWhatHuh
No joking either my friend. A sense of humor can get you in trouble with stupid people who hold minor positions of AUTHORITY.
Rumors were also circulating that he allowed his children to matriculate at the local college.
We need to start dealing with the people who precipitate these situations like the person who called 911 on this man and his kids.
Second, why didnt the cops simply tell the caller that what they were reporting wasn't a crime and end it there?
Kinda funny how all the Karen's out there run to the phone to call the cops on legal, even mundane activity especially when the subject is black.. but at the same time people will just walk past acting like they see nothing when someone gets jumped.
My ex wife once called about a man who spent several hours sitting alone at a playground. This is not illegal. When the police arrived, he turned out to be a registered sex offender. Still not illegal, but a reasonable cause for concern. FWIW, he was living at a different address than the registry had, which was illegal but wasn't enforced and the address wasn't updated. The police told him to go home and stop creeping people out.
@@robertpetrovich1923 some dude sitting by himself for hours in a playground isn't exactly normal adult behavior. It is a red flag for what that guy was. But there are plenty of examples out there of cops being called for things like Black people walking down a sidewalk in their own culdisac neighborhood, picking up trash in their yard, sitting on the front porch of their home, working on a car in their garage with the garage door open, jogging, driving a car down a street, being parked in a parking spot, list goes on. But 1 glaring example wasn't even people calling the cops. It was the cops being proactive with the racial profiling.. there's a video on UA-cam of a couple white cops arresting a black man "who fit the description" w/o any reasonable suspicion or probable cause. All he was doing was sitting on a sidewalk bench on a crowded street sidewalk. Those handcuffs came off as fast as they went on when they opened his wallet to find he was an FBI agent..
Probably because they didn’t know. Legal scholars aren’t answering the phones. I suspect it’s assumed to be a job anyone can do so is low-paying. As Lehto said in this video, they should have some real training before being allowed to take calls
Well when the dispatch training and procedures are flawed and ingrained with discriminatory tactics this will continue. When people are not prosecuted for these calls nor are police being properly reprimanded for adding to this stupidity and or racism it will not stop. What the legal system conveys to the public is approval of the racism or discriminatory practice and we appreciate your willingness to help us harass those people. Yes its a case of those people until one day you become one of those people. Many of you think you are immune to this type of policing but one day you will find yourself in that harassed group I hope you experience the full force of that hate.
As a former 911 operator, I can say definitively that the vast majority of these types of instances occur because the callers embellish details of whats actually going on or straight make things up to get officers to respond. Had one where a woman told us a girl had been kidnapped, at gunpoint, and dragged into the back of a van, and was being sexually assaulted. What was really happening? A church group picked up a friend for services... In a marked church van.. all dressed in their Sunday best clothes.
Hmmm. Lets see... Petition for tenants association. My guess is that it was the landlord that called the police. How dare he try to get a tenants association going!!! Cheers, Steve
He could subpoena then 911 dispatcher for the phone call
That's what I was thinking.
@@RainbowManification As far as I know, in your nation, defendants have the right to face their accuser.
Yes - that was what I was thinking also. Easy to hide behind a 911 call try to be anonymous and stir up shit.
He'll appeal, get his job back, and with back pay. Follow up when that does happen.
that is the sad part about this
Not if the city presses an assault charge. It will also be more difficult to get his job back if there is a civil judgment against him.
@@thorinpalladino2826 you obviously don't know the power of police unions. They'll throw money non stop to bring back a bad cop
@@apex007 And drop a good cop in a heart beat.
Or he will just move on to the next town.
Steve, regarding the client who drove around the barricade, the jury's action sounds like a case of "jury nullification" -- I love seeing those cases.
Steve I seen this video, that Deputy is not a person who should have any kind of of public job, He is crazy.
I watch quite a few of the 1st Amend, auditor type stuff. It's always amazing to me how, in so many cases, the cops escalate things to create a violation.
These days calling the cops could be risking someone's life...
I saw this on Audit the Audit a few days ago. Shows the video and breaks down various laws during the encounter.
Audit the audit is a great channel with facts and case law backing up
I seen it also on ATA on UA-cam. Great work and rates, grades the people involved in the video.
You had me humored through out your video.Soliciting what ? 🤣🤣😂😂
Another “Contempt of Cop” bogus arrest.
Every arrest this chowderhead has ever made now needs to be reinvestigated for accuracy.
"Ethical requirements for attorneys" made me laugh until I cried! What an oxymoron!
I just checked out the video of the interaction on ATA. How that should have gone is:
"Evening sir, we received a complaint."
"I'm a resident, getting a petition signed."
"Thanks for your time sir, stay safe."
Total time of 15 seconds.
Also, where are the deputies masks? Multiple interactions per day with the public make them prime candidates for spreading brovid.
Police regularly escalate even the most mundane encounters, because that is how they are trained and who they recruit nowadays. A common mentality is "warrior training" which promotes seeing every non-police person as a threat. Police also encourage former military to apply as officers, who already have an "us vs. them mindset." I have had a cop roll up on me before with his hand already on his gun, demanding I show ID when I was on my own property, clearly sitting in a lawn chair with a big damn pitcher of ice tea by me. Someone (me) had called in a couple teen thugs vandalizing a vacationing neighbor's house. He only got held accountable because my next door neighbor (A. the head of the local neighborhood association, b. was a lawyer and c. was a friend of the mayor) came out and made a huge noise about police harassment.
The police in this situation admitted wrong only because they had their feet held to the fire.
Exactly. These former military types are thinking that their deployment tactics are acceptable back in Murca.
I personally believe there should be an official inquiry every time a cop aims a gun at someone. This should probably consist of people with no other connection to the police force, but with lawyers and cops serving to inform with regard to the relevant law and police practice. The inquiry should have the ability to commend the officer(s), approve the action, demand further training or even dismissal, or recommend changes in the law and/or police procedure if they feel there's a problem with it. It might help stop the problem of cops being too ready to use their weapons.
A most intelligent and excellent observation!
@Spike Elwood You were very fortunate that the pig did NOT arrest YOU for committing the murder.
Never, ever, aid or assist law enforcement, unless YOU want to be placed at the very top of the 'persons of interest' list.
Once they 'solve' the crime by arresting a person, it is up to that person to hire an attorney to attempt to prove your innocence. Even IF the badge wearing clowns have evidence that exonerates the person that they have in custody, they WILL NOT use it to free the innocent person.
you have described the sad state of the relationship between cops and civvies very clearly. nothing to add. it is a deplorable fact that nowadays we no longer feel safe upon seeing a cop. there once was a time cops really were serving and protecting. no longer. it appears that now they are out there to harass and intimidate, posing a real threat to innocents.
Thanks for the time you put in on these situations and explaining them.
This whole thing got caught on a neighbor's security camera. She was awesome!!
Is that video posted?
@@sweetwilliam49 yup
@@mayhem7455 cool, where can you you watch it?!
@@sweetwilliam49 hmmm how do I do this??? Search "man arrested for soliciting" look for Kimberly Totzke's video. I believe she's the neighbor.
I saw the video.
Saw the video of this incident when it first came out. Glad to hear the cop was fired before he killed someone. He was a real idiot.
Ever hear of the excuse some police departments use, "We have to investigate all calls we receive." No intelligence required.
It is really sad when you see the type of people that police departments have working, I remember when you were happy to see a cop, that if you needed help you could trust a cop to help, now most are worried about what they may do and forget getting any help.
We have always had to worry about the police coming into our neighborhood. As kids, they often detained and questioned us just for playing or walking to the store to get sodas.
The emotionally underdeveloped and mentally unstable people who are “qualified” to become law enforcement officers is beyond comprehension. Solution: 1. 30 years or older. 2. College degree with at least a minor in constitutional law. 3. External oversight, review and monitoring of every member of law enforcement. 4. Higher salary to attract qualified people.
Mandatory 3rd party psych eval to exclude and permanently bar ANYONE that tests as having the markers for the kind of mental state/personality that would result in advise of power.
also yearly or bi-yearly psych checkups to make sure those abuse of power tendencies and markers aren't developing over time.
and ACTUAL STRICT CONSEQUENCES FOR CRIMES COMMITTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
You forgot get rid of qualified immunity.
@@SoloWryder It's a good point. The FBI, Secret Service, and CIA all require an undergrad degree. It doesn't matter what the major field of study is, just as long as they have one. Do you see videos of FBI, Secret Service, and CIA acting stupid? No.
People who build themselves up physically, to become cops...aren't usually very academic. So cancel the ''degree'' requirement.
@@douglasrowland3722 The FBI, Secret Service, and CIA all have physical requirements as well as a college degree requirement. I don't think I have seen any videos of them doing stupid stuff.
I'm tryin to put my finger on your specific quality that makes your videos so entertaining. I think I have it: It's you special appreciation of and reaction to irony.
Good. Just saw this on audit the audit couple days ago.
yep, me too. cop w glasses was a dick.
@@gregstiles yeah he looked like a roided out Adam Savage from Mythbusters. Sad thing is he'll get hired someplace else.
@@timothymorris1925 he'll probably get this job back when people stop paying attention.
That neighbor saved his ass! She's a fuckin hero 👏
Thank you for doing this video, I saw the video of the incident and it enraged me for the level of ridiculous unreasonableness.
does soliciting a trasspass by a cop count as solicitation?
I watch a lot of cop interactions videos and the sad thing is that when a cop arrests someone who is not committing a crime the knee jerk answer is well they need more training or retraining. That is just crazy. You give someone several deadly weapons and the power over other people you need to give them all the training beforehand not after.
Exactly. Amd the guys pulling shit like this , they don't need training they need to be given one strike warning and that's it . Abuse of power and punking and belittling citizens needs FIRING not training. Can't train someone to not be abusive and thats a fact.
Glad Im not the only one to have seen the video. Those 2 cops were seriously out of hand and very ignorant of the law.
"You can say stuff because it sounds good, if you're a poet". Lmao!!!!
When you have people enforcing the law that don't know the law that's a dangerous mix and the person that called the cops should also be fired.
I was extremely happy to hear that this officer lost his job. Thousand more like him still out there.
"Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for violating it", isn't that right Officer???
I really love your breakdown of these cases you I find them quite interesting and educational. Keep up the good work.
I watched the whole video. IMO, there was assault and excessive force used by the officer for slamming the handcuffed prisoner into the car while putting him in the police cruiser. If he hadn't done that the officer might just have received a lecture on the law regarding solicitation and not lost his job.
ThankYou for the update.
Police are supposed to uphold the law which is based on the constitution.maybe we should start training these cops on what these documents say
@Black Labs Matter undoubtedly same correction for the same infraction
@Black Labs Matter I understand that point but the entire point of accountability is the double standard therefore the only sustainable model is same crime same time type of model
@Black Labs Matter Simple, make an example of a bad department. Take a single really bad department and declare that they aren't a police department. Their personnel are an organized terrorist group that has infiltrated the police department for terrorist purposes. Then set loose counter-terrorism forces on them and treat them like ISIS. Every other police department in the country will sit down and shut up when you start drone striking and raiding their precincts with military counter-terrorism forces and black-bagging their people to CIA prisons in other countries. And it's all technically legal under federal anti-terrorism laws.
Hi I'm from the police department and I'm here to escalate things.
Is it possible that the city or county put that man out there without proper training. If so then the officer has a legal case against his employer for not requiring or providing proper training in law enforcement. Many deputies and municipal governments hire and on the job training is most of what they get. It’s only natural that recruit would assume the senior officer is giving good instructions in enforcement.
I don’t believe any entity of government should hire a person that has not been certified in a complete understanding of the constitution and the bill of rights. Your not going to hire a person to work an ambulance unless they have the proper training so why hire for law enforcement without proper certification of the laws of the land.
I see videos like this on UA-cam all of the time. There will be no crime, the person will not ID, then they get arrested for obstruction.
Not looking good for hiding behind immunity. 2 or 3 years ago officer would of gotten by abusing citizen.
Why do 911 call takers 'jump in so quickly to dispatch police when often there is no genuine reason to doso. Are they ill trained or do not care. ??
"Hi, I'm Steve Leto. Wanna sue somebody?"
Oh my goodness I'd pay money to see you do that.......
If I ever got in trouble in Michigan, Steve would be the only attorney I'd know to call!
Keep an eye on this cop. He may show up at another station. Hell he may be a State Police man next.😏
@ Christine Kelly ... And Look At For His Promotion
I’ve seen this on video, there’s actually two dick headed deputies involved. The one that was fired is unbelievably stupid. It blows my mind how dumb cops are.
Adam Fortney will apparently hire anyone who has been fired before.
I would be willing to bet money that is was building management/owners trying to prevent the tenants from forming that.
i love the "princess bride" reference, btw 'Hi, I'm Steve Lehto...wanna sue somebody?' would make a great t-shirt.
love it!!
Should include something like "We help you make lemonade from your lemon car." on that same shirt.
"My name is Steve Lehto, Attorney at Law. You hosed my client. Prepare to PAY. My name is..."
@@williamdegnan4718 INCONCEIVABLE!!!!
Wow a Law Enforcement Agency actually fired the bad officer and apologized. This actually gives me hope that the world is healing its own sickness.
It only happened because video of it went viral.. = no opertunity to cover up and tow the thin blue line.
It's just a shame that the inevitable lawsuit will be financed by the local taxpayers and not the idiot cops who made this arrest.
Deputy's superior(s) should have apologized directly to the man's children.
ONE IN A BILLION.
It's so rare to have a Sheriff or Police Chief own up so quickly , with our Lawyer's prodding to admit to his officer's wrong doing , and so quickly !
My hats off to him and for explaining it so clearly to everyone !
Well done Sheriff !
It would be extremely interesting to hear the recording of that 911 call that initiated this contact.
Finally, the right person was nailed for ignorance of the law!
Key action that Steve says: they need to TRAIN people taking calls. That DOES NOT happen for the most part.
Contribution factor of the 911 mis-use is the "see something, say something" program.
I hate that. I saw a guy one night passionately hugging a phone pole. I didn’t call the police. He obviously walked away with splinters. What were the police supposed to do?
@@7heRedBaron unfortunately the question of the day seems to be not what are they supposed to do but what will they do.
Why aren’t the dispatch more trained on de-escalation? You mentioned many questions that could have dispelled the need for police to even show up. In many videos I watch the dispatcher could have asked a few more questions of the caller and it would have changed the interaction completely, if an interaction with police would even be warranted.
There's more money in escalation.
not their job
This sort of thing always makes me chuckle. I remember seeing a firm of lawyers in NJ once - I don't recall the name on the plate, but it roughly said "Joe Blow, Esq., Attorney-at-law." Immediately beneath was a small sign that read "No Soliciting." Which I find hilarious, as in other countries (e.g. Britain and Australia), a "Solicitor" is a type of lawyer, the sign implying that he possibly wasn't actually permitted to work there.
America and Britain - it really is a case of two countries being separated by a common language. :-D
PS: There's lots of jokes comparing solicitors to prostitutes...I'm sure you've heard most of them by now. :-)
Resisting arrest seems to be the fine print tacked on like in a phone bill. No one knows what it is for but it is always tacked on.
Awesome shirt Steve !
I live in Heartland/-Brighton area and I truly appreciate your insight & intelligence and the way your a great story teller ! Thank You, Mike
Excellent video. I was sitting my car talking to my daughter-in-law about some important things, and happened to be parked in front of a house that was unusually close to the street. The woman came out and asked us why we were there, and I told her that we're just talking. She called the cops. Nothing happened. I told the cops to leave and they did. But they should have told the Karen to mind her own business.
A cop on a power trip........ Never
Puts me in mind of the George Floyd death. It appeared in the video that the senior cop there was show-boating in front of his cop 'underlings'.