Roland SH-01A Bass Line Synthesizer | Reverb Demo Video
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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A replica of the SH-101, this bass Line synth is part of Roland's Boutique series, that aims to bring back classic synth sounds in affordable small packages.
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Got mine yesterday and I love it. This baby really shines in polyphonic mode.
I have a 101 for years - needs major repairs ...I've run this vid through my studio monitors ...sounds great - take my money !
So many resentful haters... if you can't roll out some bangers with this, you shouldn't be producing!
@@leo.nordmann yo momma sounds like shit
@@leo.nordmann oh yeah, behringer ms better 😁😁
My fans won't listen to my music if I don't use real vintage analog gear... Which I record into iOs while wearing a David Bowie shirt. I can't let them down. She's lost control
Too many purists here judging what things sound like through an oscilloscope. Since when do people listen to things with their eyes? Listen with your ears. If you don't like it, spend out on an SH-101 from eBay and it's maintenance costs in years to come. Roland are giving people the sound of their classics in an affordable form. I don't see Korg re-issuing the polysix or Monopoly anytime soon. You have Behringer copying other companies classics (not innovative whatsoever), Korg giving us nothing but volcas and re-issues of... more mono synths, Yamaha with re-face (no comment)... Roland are actually giving people what they want but in newer affordable forms. If you don't like mini keys, connect it to a midi controller. ACB sounds great - it's stable, solid state and within a mix you cannot distinguish what is analogue or not. And how many of the people who listen to your music made with these instruments sit there saying "I don't like this song because it wasn't recorded with an original 101"...
i dont judge things based on an oscilloscope. I judge them based on A: Do I like them and B: Do other things do what this does but better for similar money? If it sounds like a virtual analog but does cool stuff or sounds good in ways analog can't: awesome. From this video it's clearly trying to be a simplistic analog. Sorry but a Korg Volca Bass does that better for alot less money, or a Minilogue kills it for slightly more. I can distinguish analog or not in a mix btw... One interesting fact about that though which I have noticed lately, being a mix engineer and all, is once you put enough plugins on an analog synth it does lose some of that magic and it's a little harder to tell analog from not. I do use analog mixing stuff, but just can't all the time, too time consuming.
One of life's regrets was not picking up an original for the same price this new thing goes for... But I agree with what you're saying here, especially when considering the added feature/functionality factor as well. I have yet to GAS for any of the other boutique series boxes and a couple demos in...
These boutiques are useful devices, I have a couple and am happy with them for the price but there is a reason that these pretty simple synths and drum machines got so popular and that is because they had a very specific sound.With the Sh101 it has a particular sweet spot and I don't think that Roland quite nailed it here.
The 101 is very basic and in my opinion is best for basslines but the boutique doesn't seem to quite capture that rubbery lo-fi grainy quality. Its not about whether I can distinguish them in a mix, its whether I can be inspired to make a track in the first place. I can fully understand the younger generation thinking they are great but I grew up in the 80s and was surrounded by that real analogue sound and that's the sound that does it for me, my ears can tell the difference when playing them especially the low end. I still think Roland should go back to analog for the pro market as there are a lot of us willing to spend to get that exact sound we all love.
Yeah, the one I got to play with felt alive and inspired me to keep going for sure but I think a lot of interesting things can come of this modern edition as well. It's kinda like cars, like yeah a late 60's early 70's classic Dodge would be sweet but I wouldn't mind owning one of them new retro looking ones either.
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Welcome to Digital🔥🔥😎ACB & Sound Processors will Improve & Prices should Drop...After 4 years almost of Aira Rolo should reduce their Prices.
I would love to see those people saying it sounds bad, doing a blind test vs the original
I think this one is simple to do, just load some SH101 original videos and these ones and you can clearly hear the difference...
I've stayed away from boutique gear as I like original Oldskool stuff, but it's hard to get a decent SH-101 so this excites me lots.
The F#cK gUns really??? I've stoped looking since I got my Korg Minilogue as it does what I wanted the SH-101 to do. Last year a decent one was going for about a £1000. There was no way I was paying that. Then I found the Minilogue. Now that's an awesome synth.
Grinphox yeah I agree. But it made the tunes that introduced me to House and Acid. I kind of wanted them for Old Time Sake I guess.
I'm so fucking excited about this shit. They better offer it in blue.
EightySix pics of it in blue and red on the Roland website
Guys you must admit this sounds like the original!
EDIT: After I bought it and having it it doesn't sound as the original it isn't even close haha
This demo doesn't.
no, no it does not.
@@louiseisobelevans true
@@MinimalWave1982 - we all must learn and see through the smokescreen of marketing.... I have an sh-09 sitting here, it sounds FAT. In fact it sounds better for bass than any of my other more modern synths costing many times more.
If you want the real classic sound you MUST go back to the originals.
I have an original SH101 and this is close, but I can't stand the tiny controls on the SH-01a and the fact you have to buy that crappy mini keyboard at extra cost, (£349 for the SH-01a + £79 for the keyboard adapter = £428, I only paid £495 for a vgc original SH101 with flight case!). I also tested the sequencer on it in my local music store and they've changed it in some way, as it doesn't function exactly how the original does, the original you simply hit the record button play the notes in and rests and legato's however you want and then press play and you got an instant pattern, I tried to do this on the SH-01a and it was all over the place, it seemed to change the pattern I programmed somehow.
I'm not a purist but I'm not 100% convinced this is a replacement I would consider buying instead of the original. Also heard about the buzz you get from plugging the USB into a computer USB bus socket so the audio would have to come from the mini jack socket very annoying as nearly all mixers and audio interfaces have 1/4" sockets, I'm not a real fan of jack plug adapters.
Man I used to have a ju 06, cool little thing but they made some design choices like the jack thing that just make it feel like an unserious toy. Even my shitty old casino synth has a full size jack
Hearing some classic Wagon Christ riffs in this video
This could have been affordable as genuine analog. No reason cost wise they couldnt have kept it analog. I mean they could have at least used analog vco or hell a dco , digital lfo adsr and an analog filter and the cost could have been cheaper than modeling.
Danielle Scribbins this is why Arturia's on top of the food chain.
the vco chips just got cloned i think last year and the filter couldn't be analog. IR3109 chips been out of production and no one makes a clone.
if you want analog. intellijel.com/eurorack-modules/atlantis/
Ellipsis they could come damn close.
Behringer trolling Roland with pics of their analogue 101 clone yesterday
You can only change the pulse width of the square wave, not the saw tooth wave. Apart from that, nice demo!
that's what pulse width is....
Whoaaa 😎 nice ...take my money!!!!
why????
Why not?
You should spend your money on some decent speakers or headphones first, because obviously you have no idea what you're hearing.
Because of modern software & IC design principles it's very likely that the underlying architecture for all the rereleased boutique hardware is nearly identical.
What's the point of the hold mode when you can just put those notes into the sequencer? Excuse my ignorance, but I bought experimented with it before really understanding all of it's functions.
So whats the fate of the TR-8 now that we have boutique 909 and 808? I hope they won't abandon it.
Mr.Moose the tr-8 is the boutique version.
TR-9???
@@AveMcree incorrect. The TR-08 is the boutique, the TR-8 is the black and green Aira drum machine
Can it make a booooop sound? How about a beeeeeeep sound, cause I cant find another synth that can do those.
This sounds better than the se-02 to me.
PlatinumEdge Music Isn't it funny that Roland made a real analog "clone" of a Minimoog, but they refuse to make any analog reissues of their own brand?
What so who's uploading the comparison videos? I want oscilloscopes and everything!!
Right? I'm just curious. Hopefully Nick from Sonic State will get one and do a nice and thorough review asap.
Michael Smith I'm sure someone will because there is a lot of speculation that this had boy sounds like the system 1 plug out in a new box. If this was anologue I would be all over it. Don't understand why they make a Moog clone that actually sounds nice and they make a crappy toy like recreation of there own. Gutted.
heres a side by side without oscilloscope.
ua-cam.com/video/HExs51wgeIE/v-deo.html
i agree with Daniel... oscilloscopes are great tools but this is for generating *sounds* not simply waveforms (IMO those basement dwelling synth people of lore - and YT / reddit - are WAY too into pricey oscilloscopes considering they arent engineering a product just comparing audio products... ya know, what most of us use that vintage outmoded tech called "ears" for... )
So no demonstration of the Polyphonic capabilities? ...kinda dropped the ball there Reverb.
In general, I prefer the sound of the hardware to the software but hearing that, the Tal Audio software sounds better to my ears. It is a pitty because I like the boutique synths ...
Why are all these new synth so tiny? See how fiddly you have to use the sliders.
Frits van Zanten makes em cheaper
Novation BassStation 2 kicks its Ass ... Same price and real Analog Synth
Indeed it does! My BS2 leaves it for dead.
Add to that Microbrute, Monologue, Waldorf Rocket...
Tatsuya Takahashi designed Monologue, RDJ was only consultant...
No He oiled them with Blue Calx and dipped them in Bubble bath
A Zam incorrect.
I knew there'd be loads of haters out for this straight away.
Look, a real SH101 sounds lovely. But mine is totally f**ked. It's more than 30 years old. The keys are falling off. The pots are crackly. It needs calibrating. The casing is starting to crack. The membrane under the keyboard is starting to wear through and some of the keys don't make proper contact. There's a weird low 60 Hz hum which was just about acceptable 15 years ago and now is intolerable. I had an expert look at it a couple of years ago and he quoted me 'at least' £250 to fix it all.
This doesn't sound as nice, but it's new, it's got MIDI, and it's polyphonic. By the time I've smeared it in reverb and layered it up in a mix, I reckon it'll be near enough! Part of what you pay for is the convenience rather than the sound.
Yes, Roland could probably have made a brand-new all-analogue SH-101. But I suspect that what they want to invest their R&D in is improving these ACB algorithms instead, as to them that represents moving forward rather than looking backward. It's like CGI; it still doesn't convince, but it's loads better than it was 10 or even 5 years ago. In another five years it will be better still. In the meantime, Roland have made this SE-02 thing for people who just have to have real analogue! Also: Roland have probably realised that KORG have the 'cheap real analogue' market sown up, so maybe they're trying to go down a different path.
The CGI comparison is absolutely stupid. CGI is great technology for images, that are impossible to achieve otherwise. ACB is the thing that is actually backwards. The SH101 is from 1982, that is 35 years ago, and it sounds a lot better than this pathetic emulation. So where is the progress, bringing the same synth 35 years later, that sounds way worse than the original? 4-voice polyphony? LOL. It is a blatant, disgusting money grab by roland, plain and simple. I'm sure they have huge margins on this boutique crap, it's a flimsy little controller on a cheap DSP sold for a couple hundred bucks. They don't even have to sell much of them, to return a profit.
What I wrote was;
'as to them that represents moving forward rather than looking backward. '
The keys words here are 'to them'. They're working with ACB DSP because they're working towards a Holy Grail, which is DSP that has a sonic quality indistinguishable from analogue. Someone like Roger Meyer would say that this is actually theoretically and practically impossible to achieve because analogue waveforms are always changing slightly, and even if you could model this behaviour with wavetables, wavetables will always be stepped even if one were to use a million steps. But Roland want to chase it because it represents a new challenge to them, which analogue doesn't.
I wasn't saying it was better for us consumers! We're the guinea pigs for their experiment, in a sense.
It's developing technology, in other words. Who knows what it'll sound like in another ten years? I agree that it still has a long way to go. Maybe it's not even achievable.
This "new" one isn't new, it's the same recycled code that Roland used for the Plugout. And it certainly doesn't sound like the original, the filter sweep makes it painfully obvious. This plugin by a single guy from switzerland sounds better than this joke by the roland corporation: tal-software.com/products/tal-bassline-101
Nice Video! Can you confirm if the Roland SH-01A sounds the same as the AIra SH-101 or did they tweak it
imo it does not sounds as solid as the 101 or SH-09 etc
It bothers me that Roland and others label their VA instruments with "VCF", "VCA" and "VCO", especially when we're seeing the real things re-implemented on new, true voltage-controlled analog synths.
So you want ACBMF, ACBMA, ACBMO or F, A, O?
Роман Кузьменко how about OSC, FILT & AMP?!😏
*derp*. still this is reincarnation with same IO, UI and building blocks, albeit in digital form, why should they change labels
It really sounds and looks great... but I wish they'd have waited a little and done the TR-08 and SH-01A analog.
Something clearly wen't wrong when they recorded the audio. Sound distorted and there is a strange stereo phase thing going on.
I luv that need it
Holy shit. Uli Behringer, my hero, please assume! We don't need gears from 'Toys r Us', but we need an analog synth in normal size for ADULTS. When can I buy the new great Behringer SH-101?
Is that actually the 808 in the demo? Sounds exactly like the volca beats :S
lol no chance, thats the tr-08 roland boutique, so, roland's version of an 808 clone. Yeah, may as well be the volca beats in my opinion.
Try to copy/past that Behringer
in this video it sounds flat and boring, nothing like a real 101...very functional though...
"you can change the pulsewidth for each waveform"
- ?
1:17 Un dejo de pasos de Soda Stereo
i see you guys didnt hear 101 before. this is Roland SYSTEM-1 Plug Out, in new boxing. Thats all.
Not quite. The SH-01a's ACB software has been rewritten and is sonically closer to the original (remember the aliasing on the original system 1 plug out?) Also, the SH-01a has 4 voice poly and unison modes. That's NOT all.
alunmauve doesnt sound even close. Sorry.
Dacci Pucci its good of course i just compared the sound and character
Ri Za this has polyphony. The plug out DOES NOT.
Ri Za 99% the same.
yeah, this is getting absurd Roland. So basically you could put any of these VST modeled synths on the system 1 and 1m or 8 but b/c you want to make more money and have less theft via software your creating a ton of tiny synths that only in-experienced or low budget musicians will think of using for about a year and then on to the ebay 2nd hand market.
Quit making micro-machine synths. I agree ACB is THE SHEET!! Now make the System series worth it's salt and put these VST's out for that and drop this boutique cracker box joke. the SE-02 is actual analog, but the controls are for little people. You want to make some actual analog do that, but these digital flavor boxes are basically for people who don't know how to make the system 1 engine produce the iconic sound of these other synths, and basically you could just have a nice patch set to sell or the plug outs that give people instant access to the desired palette of sound. I'm not buying crap tons of gear. 2 synths and a sampler with efx unit and a drum machine is enough.
Ubiquitous Reverser You're quite right. Forget about Roland, with just one really fat analog monosynth like the MFB Dominion 1, perhaps a poly, a sampler, maybe a rompler, an analog mixing desk, some FX, some sample CDs and you are ready to rave.
I get you, just the prices on Boutique & Aira products. Rolo went to a fashion show & had this idea along with the Fashion show price tags😳. What peas me of is the Sys-1 has no velocity keys,no gates, hence you need the mini 25 key tray for £80 odd to get Velocity on Boutique Mini me's.
However if you have a System-1M then you can add Boutique synths to do some extraordinary stuff along with other Plug Outs., possibly justifying price tag of Boutique Synths😎🔥🔥...However System-1 needs some love & have gates to connect up to a 1M like the System 8 gate for System- 1M Connection.
All thru this vid I was surprised how virtual analog this sounded - I could not believe it got vco´s. Then I read the specs, it is a VA. Strange that they label vco, vcf and vca on the panel. Anyhow, the bottom end sounds really fat for a VA. Besides that....hm, no thanx.
I don't think this sounds anywhere near the SH-101 or the SH-09 series.... there is no thickness of bass
just get a Bass Station ii
Beatles 2nd part.....-.-
Buy Lush-101 for $100 (summer sale) and spend the rest $200 on a good MIDI controller. Besides the S,E all boutiques are a small joke (couldn't call it big, sorry)
anyone else hear depeche mode sounds from @1:15 ?
Roland needs to stop fucking around and start pumping out analog beasts again. This shit is gimmicky.
It's crazy to think that for the same price you can have a Bass Station II or a Minibrute who are real size analog synths with more features. Instead you have a digital toy who sounds like a vst.
Roland is doing it all wrong lately
Boards of Canada are known for there use with a real sh101 and I can't imagine this reproducing that fat baseline of roygbiv.
That is tiny
behringer model d!!!!!!!
The SH-01a is a great synth.
I really wanted this thing to be great, since i always wanted an SH-101. But it isn't, it is an overpriced piece of shit. An SH-101 can (and has obviously) carry a whole track, just with its massive, fascinating presence. This thing might sound somewhat like it, but it lacks all these intangible qualities. The difference in character are massive. This "ACB" is just a marketing term for a very flawed emulation. It is not even close. The Behringer D is close to the Minimoog Model D. This is just a mediocre vst, delivered in an overpriced package.
Welcome to 2017, where Behringer builds better Synths than Roland.
The Behringer D is almost an exact replica, the most recent version atleast.
Nonsense. The SH101 was cheap when it came out for a reason. It's not hard to emulate well. No wonder millennials are making inferior music.
I bought one, it's really cheap made and not that great, I sold it a month later.
Yeah that sounds like ass.
Damn, this sounds terrible :|
I'll stick with my vermona mono lancet for that kind of sound.
No idea how you think that. Unless you never heard a 101
I owned a 101 and an mc-202. Sold both and kept the vermona. 101 is great for performance, but it has a very 'plastic' mid-range focus sound that while interesting, but was too precise/sharp for me. The 202 was also cool, but I flipped it and made a $500 profit.
I have owned my 101 since 86' To say this sounds terrible seems just a bit snobbish. and bs to boot. You probably would damn a 101 since at this point not one sound alike
I'll stick with my Buchla Music Easel.
Qué tontería más grande.
volca bass sounds better lol
Roland: this is aweful. :( Poor digital sound.
Eeeeek, sounds like a vst toy.
Looks like I'll be waiting for Behringer to release a 101 copy. Enough with the digital shit roland. What a joke.
Yuck.
Amen. Disgusted by Roland. Must be the shittiest company in the music business right now. Who would have ever thought, that Behringer would be a respected Synth Builder, and Roland would be absolute dogshit???
Very good demo of a very bad product...Its a shame Roland keeps on acting in such a shameless way. This is basically a very very limited VST (super limited vco, only one adsr, not the best modulation options...) inside a very uncomfortable enclosure (I hate the boutique series faders), with an okaysh sound at a very high price.
You're too kind about the demo....no seriously, TOO kind.
The VCO's aren't real.
Sounds wrong.