I prefer Ribbon Road, although I still don’t understand why Cheese Land is so hated. I understand they removed the moon aesthetic but it’s still a fun track with cool glider cuts
I hate it because Cheese Land, Mario Circuit (GBA) and Mario Circuit (8) make up the trinity of the only tracks people ever allow you to play on online
Something cool about the ribbon road remake is that rather than being in one giant castle like area you go through multiple different castles throughout. It explains why there are mechakoopas on the green ribbon.
I once told a friend about how good Cheese Land represents Mami Tomoe from Madoka Magica. She claims to be the cheese, and the chain chomps are there to represent her beheading
14:36 Not gonna lie man.. I do really like Shy Guy Beach in Wii, I think they translated it pretty well and the approach to the art while different makes it interesting enough to justify it being brought back. I still love the video though! I love both Cheese Land and Ribbon Road’s remakes a whole lot!
Odyssey Central I hope GBA - Bowser's Castle 4 comes to Wave 4 because this retro track can really work by changing the Track with some elevations (like they did with Cheese Land, Ribbon Road, Snowland and Boo Lake). They can also change some parts of Track with Anti Gravity, adding spin boosters and a flying section. And also they can add electric zappers, Mecha Koopas and lava Geysers for this New remake version. 🙂 [Opinion] - And Please Nintendo make a great layer that we can finally see Bowser's Core... 🥺🙏
Fun fact: A small colony of mammoths survived on Wrangle Island, a small island way up in the arctic. There were as many as 1,000 mammoths living on the island up until around 1650 BC. This is nearly 1,000 years after the construction of the Great Pyramid at Giza
Great analysis. I think Waluigi Stadium rivals Cheese Land and Ribbon Road in terms of its remake. The beautiful look and the added upper anti-gravity paths elevates the track to new levels.
I agree a lot but I think something important to point out is that tracks from games that are more similar to 8 have less opportunity to be changed. Mostly talking about courses from 3DS and wii, you can't really do a whole lot with them, so while they are "worse" in that they don't update the track as much, the track really couldn't be altered that much without fundamentally changing it. Other than very small sections like the moon given anti gravity.
I honestly don't understand the hate towards Sky Garden they literally hate it for the exact reason why they love others: It changed. Why is it so bad lmao The GBA tracks had some really creative theme, cheese and ribbon are two really fun theming. So remaking them to live up to today's standards, these are gonna be some of the most memerable tracks in the franchise.
With Sky Garden it's changing the layout and design in a way that worsens the track for many people. The layout changes end up too simplified where the challenge of the original is taken out and is too simplified. While there are some cool additions (like going under the beanstalk shortcut) it doesn't have enough to replace the fun factor of driving in the original the original. Then the design aspect is ruined by replacing the path from the iconic mossy road and yellow clouds to a eh brown brick road and plain white clouds. Overall it doesn't stand out much, especially when a similar track like Cloudtop Cruise has tons of elements that were used in the 8/Tour version of Sky Garden (White Clouds, a short cut across leafs, bouncing on a platform, beanstalk), Alongside the fact that Cloudtop Cruise implements them much better and still has tons of extra cool stuff like driving on an Airship or dodging lightning.
Koopa Cape's remake in Mario Kart Tour was hated for simply having orange cliffs. If you ever say you prefer MKT's Koopa Cape to the original, be prepared for hate from Wii stans. (They did the exact same to Rock Rock Mountain, but no one complained.)
@@harrybest2041 I will say I easily prefer the grey cliffs of Rock Rock Mountain (as the orange feels like it ruins the naturalist feel of the original), but I don't mind the orange cliffs of Koopa Cape too much from just checking a quick video on it. Honestly I would say 3DS was the worst remake of Koopa Cape, mainly for being the culprit of removing the glass tunnel sections with electric spinners and water current, replacing it with a boring underwater section. At least Tour (despite removing the fun Koopa Sign pointing down) did some good stuff like a great starting line and a cool trick ramp that makes you go above water during the dull underwater section.
Me personally i feel like the booster course pass makes retro tracks in the same vain as ds and wii (the era of mariokart i grew up with, moreso wii). Seeing as they feel Very authentic, like the tracks are from their original hardware, but in a new engine
Always love a level by level video Fun Fact: I wrote this comment first by complete accident. I just happened to be tapping the top of the screen when the notification popped up
Like N64 Kalimari Desert and DS Peach Gardens, there is potential for GBA tracks to have the Lap change gimmick from Tour. Most particularly Bowser Castle 4 and Rainbow Road. If BC4 wasn't hectic enough in terms of Track layout, imagine adding even more extra turns that lead to new routes. For RR, instead of the narrow path being a faster route, have that part branch into a new path and have you drive backwards into the final lap.
A wise man once said “If thou makes a video about the best, he must follow it up with a video about the worst so both ends are covered”. My personal pick for the worst is GCN Dry Dry Desert since Nintendo can’t seem to make good GCN remakes, and also because it’s not “dry” anymore with the oasis added in.
Yeah ever since Mario kart 8 GBA tracks have been honestly the best retros, it’s sad that both of these courses are heavily slept on, since they’re so good. Really makes me wonder how much they’d be different if they came out in the Tour/BCP style, and Vise Versa with the Tour/BCP GBA retros in the MK Original style!
While I agree with youe points for the most part, I don't agree with 8's Ribbon Road remix being better. I think it's one of the only remixes in 8 that changed too drastically. I liked the cheerful tone of SS more. Regardless, great video! These are definitely in my Top 10 for best tracks in the series.
I feel like its quite unfair to give such praise to GBA courses because out of all games in the series, they have the most potential for retro upgrades that it is almost a given that they are given massive upgrades. The thing that makes modern retros (in the case of mk8D, mk7 and mkWII) so interesting, and in my opinion better, is that they need to find more creative ways to upgrade them for mk8. I know it can seam a little hypocritical given how retro courses started in that there wasn't any room to upgrade given the DS's hardware limitations, making all the retro courses seam very samey however 7 proved that the same attention can and should be given to old retros (SuperMK, MK64, MKDD and MKSC) AND modern retros (MKDS and MKWII), it shouldn't just be the old ones (that exist on games with very limited hardware) that are given priority. I believe that the upgrades given to rainbow road 3ds are better than those given to ribbon road
There’s been some really good points about these two but I honestly preferred how the BCP treated Boo Lake and Snow Land better imo. I like how those two kept the courses still rather flat like their original counterpart but including more of the y axis alongside gameplay gimmicks from 8 Deluxe to modernize the courses while still keeping them faithful to the originals. It’s something unique that was well done to the GBA courses as GCN and later were basically just visually enhanced courses with some small things added here and there and SNES especially trying to keep them faithful to the originals since it was the first game after all. Idk to me Cheese Land and Ribbon Road stray too far away from the originals in design that they feel they’re entirely different courses and at least to me it kinda hurts it more than helps it but again just my opinion. Or maybe it’s because these two appear way too often online.
I enjoy all the base game GBA tracks, cheese land is the lesser of the 3 but atleast It might not stay last for long due to me not owning the M.K.8.D.B.C.P so... Sky Garden
You’re both wrong. I think what the developers were going for was a cheese desert at nighttime because the sky doesn’t make feel like it’s on the moon.
8 seemed to really love Super Circuit. Every track taken from the game (except Sky Garden) really felt like the developpers evolving the ideas of the original track without the limitations of the GBA keeping it down. From the y-axis used, to the remixes to stuff like Boo Lake having a lake, they really have set a bar for retro tracks. Sidenote: I think it's really cool that Ribbon Road has basically the same theme but in widely different styles and speeds making them somewhat indistinguishable.
I prefer Ribbon Road, although I still don’t understand why Cheese Land is so hated. I understand they removed the moon aesthetic but it’s still a fun track with cool glider cuts
surprised that you didn't mention how the different sections of Ribbon Road are themed with the red ribbon having a Peach's Castle look, the green being Bowser's Castle, and the blue having a Rosalina/Galaxy aesthetic
GBA tracks always make the best retro tracks and I think the reason for this is because they are flat and outdated, but unlike SNES tracks they have very strong themes and interesting layouts that you can do a lot with and improve upon.
One concept for a level by level video could be comparing similar tracks in the game (i.e. Ninja Hideaway and Dragon Driftway, Cheep Cheep Beach and Dolphin Shoals, The Mario Circuits, etc.)
One aspect I love a lot about ribbon road is that apart from matching color, the gameplay gimmicks of each section also match the toy castle you drive through. Red section has signs showing it's peach's castle, so it's the simplest and easiest with toads on the side. Green section is bowser's castle, so it has the enemies in the form of mechakoopas. And blue section is rosalina's castle, so it is anti-gravity, floating, and has wavy sections, like the galaxy games, or rainbow road.
Yeah, GBA Sky Garden got the short end of the stick. Track Layout has been heavily simplified, and it has no anti-gravity in which, theme wise, would make perfect sense.
As much as I like the Cheese Land remake, I definitely prefer the cheese moon aesthetic of the original. I think it would have worked really well with Mario Kart 8's anti gravity. It would've been really cool if the entire track was in anti gravity to fit the moon theme. I still definetly liked all the gameplay changes I just wish they kept the moon aesthetic
@@noahppinkrevail The greenish planet or moon as well as the stars gives it a space aesthetic. There are also flags reminiscent of the flag on the moon. The moon being made out of cheese is also a fanciful belief that appeared in fables and proverbs
@@noahppinkrevail It could still be some alien planet but with the GBA's limited graphics it can be hard to tell exactly what they were going for. Regardless of whether or not it's just a desert or some sort of moon, I still think it looks more interesting than in MK8
Anyone who says the original version of ribbon road are probably the same people that say "the original one is always better no matter what" Also known as Blinded by nostalgia
8:53 i have to agree with you on this. all though they did change the authentic they didn't change the look like they did ribbon road. i have to say that is what make ribbon road better is that it is the more detailed of two tracks. plus i haven't played the gba version of mk so i have only seen clips of the two tracks in various videos
The GBA tracks (except sky garden) in general I feel so much an amazing job. But ribbon road was the absolute peak so far. I'm glad to see super circuit finally get the appreciation in the retro selection after being abused during the Wii and 7 era.
Ribbon Road is def the better of the two imo, it feels completely knew while still paying homage to the original respectfully. I disagree with Cheese Land however, I personally prefer the parade of the whole ‘moon is cheese’ thing, and the removal of the mice and replacement with Chain Chomps doesn’t make much sense to me. Also the track lends itself to sandbagging (I think that’s what it’s called anyway), which I’m not that fond of with those 2 last minute shortcuts. I can see why ppl love it, but I’m more on the negative side personally. Still, another excellent watch, I love seeing other people’s views on things like these so I found it enjoyable, have a nice day to whoever reads this!
It’s pretty clear why the original retro tracks are better than the booster pack ones. The booster pack tracks are just basically taken from Mario Kart tour. When they originally made those retro tracks, because it’s a phone game they weren’t able to put in as much detail. Obviously Nintendo could have just actually re-made the tracks or atleast put in more details for the tracks when they get out on 8 deluxe, but they didn’t so…
As someone who still enjoys Cheese Land, I can't in good spirit claim it to be a good retro track. The original track was meant to take place on a cheese planet, with an alien starry night background and an infestation of little Mousers. The Mario Kart 8 remake just turned it into a generic daytime desert theme, removed the Mousers, and decided to randomly add Chain Chomps since they had the asset leftover.
I hope Mario Kart 9 gives us GBA Bowser Castle 4 which would be completely different from the original like these tracks are. That track is so big it could even be turned into a 1 lap track
@R S J Bowser Castle 4 is so unsettling. You're just in this giant rook with a high ceiling and no windows or anything. And then the room is filled with tons of lava and giant industrial gates and 2 giant glowing balls with Bowser's face on them with tons of cables going into then going around the whole room. This track in particular would be so great with a glowup to see the background better and see what the devs do with it
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Ribbon road is in my opinion the most detailed track in the game.
You could look at it for hours and still find something new.
F zero tracks have more detail but r r does have a lot
@@PenguinBoi27 3DS rainbow road: *allow me to introduce myself*
yoshi amiibo :D
@@venomgaming7014that track has nothing…
How about Squeaky Clean Sprint?
I prefer Ribbon Road, although I still don’t understand why Cheese Land is so hated. I understand they removed the moon aesthetic but it’s still a fun track with cool glider cuts
Cheese is 🤢
I think it’s because the first glider cut at the end is a little overpowered - get a mushroom and you have a MAJOR skip.
I hate it because Cheese Land, Mario Circuit (GBA) and Mario Circuit (8) make up the trinity of the only tracks people ever allow you to play on online
Fr Cheese Land is amazing
Cheese land is hated?
Something cool about the ribbon road remake is that rather than being in one giant castle like area you go through multiple different castles throughout. It explains why there are mechakoopas on the green ribbon.
Not gonna lie, I've absolutely been CONSUMING your level by level series on Mario Kart since I just bought the DLC tracks. You earned a sub!
I was today years old when I found out about that pizza from Cheese Land even though I played the hell out of MK8.
YES, the more Mario Kart content from you, the happier I get
I once told a friend about how good Cheese Land represents Mami Tomoe from Madoka Magica. She claims to be the cheese, and the chain chomps are there to represent her beheading
14:36 Not gonna lie man.. I do really like Shy Guy Beach in Wii, I think they translated it pretty well and the approach to the art while different makes it interesting enough to justify it being brought back. I still love the video though! I love both Cheese Land and Ribbon Road’s remakes a whole lot!
I love how jagged the water in shy guy beach is, plus any retro track that adds tricks is a win in my book
Had to throw a like for the Little Panda Fighter reference
This has got to be one of the best youtube channels on the youtubes
How dare you not say moo moo medows is the best Odysee I hate you 🤓🤓🤓
You sound like my dad……….
@@Odyssey_CentralUmmmm actually I don’t have a dad ( he went to get chokey milk ) so I don’t know what that means, so HA checkmate 🤓🤓🤓
@@Odyssey_CentralI’ll defend you
odyssey central when he sees a table in a living room (it helps strengthen the theme)
Odyssey Central
I hope GBA - Bowser's Castle 4 comes to Wave 4 because this retro track can really work by changing the Track with some elevations (like they did with Cheese Land, Ribbon Road, Snowland and Boo Lake). They can also change some parts of Track with Anti Gravity, adding spin boosters and a flying section. And also they can add electric zappers, Mecha Koopas and lava Geysers for this New remake version. 🙂
[Opinion]
- And Please Nintendo make a great layer that we can finally see Bowser's Core... 🥺🙏
Fun fact: A small colony of mammoths survived on Wrangle Island, a small island way up in the arctic. There were as many as 1,000 mammoths living on the island up until around 1650 BC. This is nearly 1,000 years after the construction of the Great Pyramid at Giza
Did you know water is wet?
@@autismandgaming4532 no? Thats so cool
Great analysis. I think Waluigi Stadium rivals Cheese Land and Ribbon Road in terms of its remake. The beautiful look and the added upper anti-gravity paths elevates the track to new levels.
I agree a lot but I think something important to point out is that tracks from games that are more similar to 8 have less opportunity to be changed. Mostly talking about courses from 3DS and wii, you can't really do a whole lot with them, so while they are "worse" in that they don't update the track as much, the track really couldn't be altered that much without fundamentally changing it. Other than very small sections like the moon given anti gravity.
I honestly don't understand the hate towards Sky Garden they literally hate it for the exact reason why they love others: It changed. Why is it so bad lmao
The GBA tracks had some really creative theme, cheese and ribbon are two really fun theming. So remaking them to live up to today's standards, these are gonna be some of the most memerable tracks in the franchise.
With Sky Garden it's changing the layout and design in a way that worsens the track for many people. The layout changes end up too simplified where the challenge of the original is taken out and is too simplified. While there are some cool additions (like going under the beanstalk shortcut) it doesn't have enough to replace the fun factor of driving in the original the original.
Then the design aspect is ruined by replacing the path from the iconic mossy road and yellow clouds to a eh brown brick road and plain white clouds. Overall it doesn't stand out much, especially when a similar track like Cloudtop Cruise has tons of elements that were used in the 8/Tour version of Sky Garden (White Clouds, a short cut across leafs, bouncing on a platform, beanstalk), Alongside the fact that Cloudtop Cruise implements them much better and still has tons of extra cool stuff like driving on an Airship or dodging lightning.
Koopa Cape's remake in Mario Kart Tour was hated for simply having orange cliffs. If you ever say you prefer MKT's Koopa Cape to the original, be prepared for hate from Wii stans.
(They did the exact same to Rock Rock Mountain, but no one complained.)
@@harrybest2041 I will say I easily prefer the grey cliffs of Rock Rock Mountain (as the orange feels like it ruins the naturalist feel of the original), but I don't mind the orange cliffs of Koopa Cape too much from just checking a quick video on it.
Honestly I would say 3DS was the worst remake of Koopa Cape, mainly for being the culprit of removing the glass tunnel sections with electric spinners and water current, replacing it with a boring underwater section. At least Tour (despite removing the fun Koopa Sign pointing down) did some good stuff like a great starting line and a cool trick ramp that makes you go above water during the dull underwater section.
I actualy like the cartoony artstyle of the dlc it gives a new fresh look for 8dx
Me personally i feel like the booster course pass makes retro tracks in the same vain as ds and wii (the era of mariokart i grew up with, moreso wii). Seeing as they feel Very authentic, like the tracks are from their original hardware, but in a new engine
@@autismandgaming4532 do you like or dislike that?
I’d be terrified if I made a Mario Kart track in my bedroom and tiny Chris Pratt and the gang just started racing on it while I was gone.
Always love a level by level video
Fun Fact: I wrote this comment first by complete accident. I just happened to be tapping the top of the screen when the notification popped up
I love this idea, please do more like this!
Alright! Wake up odyssey! It's time to talk about how awesome SNES bowser castle 3 is in mk8!
9:56 ok, this isn’t a reference to The Little Panda Fighter, that was a reference to Kung Fu Panda. You should totally watch it it’s great.
My brother is going to be so mad at him.
Like N64 Kalimari Desert and DS Peach Gardens, there is potential for GBA tracks to have the Lap change gimmick from Tour. Most particularly Bowser Castle 4 and Rainbow Road.
If BC4 wasn't hectic enough in terms of Track layout, imagine adding even more extra turns that lead to new routes.
For RR, instead of the narrow path being a faster route, have that part branch into a new path and have you drive backwards into the final lap.
Or we can drive into the castle in the background
Riverside Park is really good, maybe you should update this vid when we finally get to play it
Panda fighter is my favorite
A wise man once said “If thou makes a video about the best, he must follow it up with a video about the worst so both ends are covered”.
My personal pick for the worst is GCN Dry Dry Desert since Nintendo can’t seem to make good GCN remakes, and also because it’s not “dry” anymore with the oasis added in.
HELL YEAH I LOVE THE LITTLE PANDA FIGHTER WOOOOOOO
Especially Ribbon Road. How did it go from sky level to kid room?
At 150-200k subs you should rank every mk8 shortcut
N64 rainbow road goated with it's music
Yeah ever since Mario kart 8 GBA tracks have been honestly the best retros, it’s sad that both of these courses are heavily slept on, since they’re so good. Really makes me wonder how much they’d be different if they came out in the Tour/BCP style, and Vise Versa with the Tour/BCP GBA retros in the MK Original style!
Man. Classic game theory was Ridiculous. And I thought Modern Game Theory was Bizarre.
While I agree with youe points for the most part, I don't agree with 8's Ribbon Road remix being better.
I think it's one of the only remixes in 8 that changed too drastically. I liked the cheerful tone of SS more.
Regardless, great video! These are definitely in my Top 10 for best tracks in the series.
I feel like its quite unfair to give such praise to GBA courses because out of all games in the series, they have the most potential for retro upgrades that it is almost a given that they are given massive upgrades. The thing that makes modern retros (in the case of mk8D, mk7 and mkWII) so interesting, and in my opinion better, is that they need to find more creative ways to upgrade them for mk8. I know it can seam a little hypocritical given how retro courses started in that there wasn't any room to upgrade given the DS's hardware limitations, making all the retro courses seam very samey however 7 proved that the same attention can and should be given to old retros (SuperMK, MK64, MKDD and MKSC) AND modern retros (MKDS and MKWII), it shouldn't just be the old ones (that exist on games with very limited hardware) that are given priority. I believe that the upgrades given to rainbow road 3ds are better than those given to ribbon road
Ranking EVERY thing! | Odyssey Central
M'y favourite is Cheese Land, its music slap so hard
actually chain chomps post in the new soup games are actually cheese
Is the pink yarn on the red ribbon part of the road also used in smash ultimate's stage builder? Same as in the same texture.
The best retro course is obviously Mario Circuit 3
One thing that kinda annoys me about ribbon road is the poster for the original mariokart 8 didn’t get updated to 8 deluxes box art
I love cheese land because cheese
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Gromit we forgot the cheese
There’s been some really good points about these two but I honestly preferred how the BCP treated Boo Lake and Snow Land better imo. I like how those two kept the courses still rather flat like their original counterpart but including more of the y axis alongside gameplay gimmicks from 8 Deluxe to modernize the courses while still keeping them faithful to the originals. It’s something unique that was well done to the GBA courses as GCN and later were basically just visually enhanced courses with some small things added here and there and SNES especially trying to keep them faithful to the originals since it was the first game after all. Idk to me Cheese Land and Ribbon Road stray too far away from the originals in design that they feel they’re entirely different courses and at least to me it kinda hurts it more than helps it but again just my opinion. Or maybe it’s because these two appear way too often online.
I know MK8 Deluxe's and Tour's GBA Sky Garden are shorter than the original, but they aren't bad.
They are not bad tracks, but they are bad remakes
Cheeseburger. OOOUAAAAAAAAGH
I enjoy all the base game GBA tracks, cheese land is the lesser of the 3 but atleast It might not stay last for long due to me not owning the M.K.8.D.B.C.P so... Sky Garden
Based Cheese Land enjoyer!
I like the level by level series
Odyssey is it ok if I make a level called the 5 hidden treasures
By the way my names elijah
where's the tier list?
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9:56 you mean Kung Fu Panda, not the little panda fighter
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@@Odyssey_Central Thankyou for answering.
I thought that Kung Fu Panda is fitting better to Kung Fu Lakitu
r/woooosh
Those chain chomps can sadly be easily "CHEESED." Also, Ribbon road will not be unique soon because of the upcoming bathroom track!
Bone dry dunes is the best retro track.
That’s a nitro track, not a retro track
Worst track in the mk series imo
Cheese land got butchered
I know
You’re both wrong. I think what the developers were going for was a cheese desert at nighttime because the sky doesn’t make feel like it’s on the moon.
someone should make a channel called "galaxy headquarters" with a luma pfp and then just disagrees with everything he says
and then we can't forget Sunshine Clubhouse
It’s so tragic that the DLC retros haven’t been given as much polish and detail as the og retros. They feel half-baked in comparison
8 seemed to really love Super Circuit. Every track taken from the game (except Sky Garden) really felt like the developpers evolving the ideas of the original track without the limitations of the GBA keeping it down. From the y-axis used, to the remixes to stuff like Boo Lake having a lake, they really have set a bar for retro tracks.
Sidenote: I think it's really cool that Ribbon Road has basically the same theme but in widely different styles and speeds making them somewhat indistinguishable.
_And then we got Sunset Wilds..._
I prefer Ribbon Road, although I still don’t understand why Cheese Land is so hated. I understand they removed the moon aesthetic but it’s still a fun track with cool glider cuts
People hate it because of item bagging, those final shortcuts are broken AF.
The "Little panda fighter" joke caught me off guard and i died. GG, Odyssey.
Well, it’s oBvIoUSlY the only movie he could be talking about, right?
Never expected odyssey to reference a mockbuster of all things
Well,Its technically based on Kung Fu Panda.
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@@noahppinkrevail nah really i thought it was based on tai chi bear
In cheese land they should have replaced the mice with skipsqueks from 3d world
Great video odyssey!
Or fraidy rats from the new super mario bros games
Nice refence
@@autismandgaming4532aren’t they more “Ghost House” enemies?
surprised that you didn't mention how the different sections of Ribbon Road are themed with the red ribbon having a Peach's Castle look, the green being Bowser's Castle, and the blue having a Rosalina/Galaxy aesthetic
That’s actually pretty cool, I’m surprised I never noticed that.
Wow!
Level By Level is just such a good series
GBA tracks always make the best retro tracks and I think the reason for this is because they are flat and outdated, but unlike SNES tracks they have very strong themes and interesting layouts that you can do a lot with and improve upon.
Ribbon Road in MK8 is not only an S tier track on its own, but the second best track in the series imo, only behind Mount Wario
Fun fact: Ribbon road’s sections are themed after a certain character, try to guess which character goes with each section.
Red: Peach (Peach's Castle)
Green: Bowser (Bowser's Castle)
Blue: Rosalina? (unsure)
"And no, im not pulling a odyssey with her"
One concept for a level by level video could be comparing similar tracks in the game (i.e. Ninja Hideaway and Dragon Driftway, Cheep Cheep Beach and Dolphin Shoals, The Mario Circuits, etc.)
Ah yes, Cheese Land. The sandbagging capital of MK8D.
One aspect I love a lot about ribbon road is that apart from matching color, the gameplay gimmicks of each section also match the toy castle you drive through. Red section has signs showing it's peach's castle, so it's the simplest and easiest with toads on the side. Green section is bowser's castle, so it has the enemies in the form of mechakoopas. And blue section is rosalina's castle, so it is anti-gravity, floating, and has wavy sections, like the galaxy games, or rainbow road.
me: oh boy I can't wait too take this awesome cheese land shortcut!
Random chain chomp: 😶🌫️
Ribbon Road in 8 is one of my favourite tracks in the entire series I love it so much!!
I would love Cheese Land a lot more if they didn't make it slippery... Ribbon Road on the other hand, that's a masterpiece
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Yeah, GBA Sky Garden got the short end of the stick. Track Layout has been heavily simplified, and it has no anti-gravity in which, theme wise, would make perfect sense.
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@@autismandgaming4532 A simplified mostly flat track that lacked a sunset in 8DX. It was mutilated.
Ah yes the best movie ever made the little panda fighter
I think Shy Guy Beach from Mario Kart Wii is the best retro track in the series and I hate this video because you didn't talk about how amazing it is!
it's a me a waluigi from super smash brothers ultimate deluxe!
Ribbon road has always been my favorite track in the game because pink and red. No seriously that's basically the whole reason
But Odyssey, Shy Guy Beach from MKWii is obviously the best retro track in the series! What other track involves hazards that explode like bob-ombs???
I wish cheez land has the space background and the enemies. It feels like a desert map (a good one tho)
I originally thought it was a nighttime desert
"The best retro tacks" the only 2 that are basically completely changed
As much as I like the Cheese Land remake, I definitely prefer the cheese moon aesthetic of the original. I think it would have worked really well with Mario Kart 8's anti gravity. It would've been really cool if the entire track was in anti gravity to fit the moon theme. I still definetly liked all the gameplay changes I just wish they kept the moon aesthetic
I don’t see a moon ascetic on the oh one. I thought it was a nighttime desert
@@noahppinkrevail The greenish planet or moon as well as the stars gives it a space aesthetic. There are also flags reminiscent of the flag on the moon. The moon being made out of cheese is also a fanciful belief that appeared in fables and proverbs
@@Wraith465 I feel like the greenish planet thing was the moon AND most mice live in the desert
@@Wraith465 and the moon is pretty flat rather than having a bunch of tall buildings on it.
@@noahppinkrevail It could still be some alien planet but with the GBA's limited graphics it can be hard to tell exactly what they were going for. Regardless of whether or not it's just a desert or some sort of moon, I still think it looks more interesting than in MK8
Anyone who says the original version of ribbon road are probably the same people that say "the original one is always better no matter what" Also known as Blinded by nostalgia
It's ok, I still wish that the remake was kept closer to the original (music, track layout, etc). Nintendo took out too many turns.
9:33 jokes on you, the mario kart live is mine and not my little brother's, he gets nothing.
8:53 i have to agree with you on this. all though they did change the authentic they didn't change the look like they did ribbon road. i have to say that is what make ribbon road better is that it is the more detailed of two tracks. plus i haven't played the gba version of mk so i have only seen clips of the two tracks in various videos
The GBA tracks (except sky garden) in general I feel so much an amazing job. But ribbon road was the absolute peak so far.
I'm glad to see super circuit finally get the appreciation in the retro selection after being abused during the Wii and 7 era.
Omg, after all these years I just realized ribbon road has the colored blocks in the castle walls as rectangular blocks
The Waffle House has found its new host.
Hell yeah new level by level!
Just came back from a large trip, now binge watching odyssey central videos while eating anything in the fridge. Life is good.
I never had Mario Kart super circuit growing up. So when I first play Mario kart 8 deluxe, I thought Cheese Land was a brand new course
Ribbon Road is def the better of the two imo, it feels completely knew while still paying homage to the original respectfully.
I disagree with Cheese Land however, I personally prefer the parade of the whole ‘moon is cheese’ thing, and the removal of the mice and replacement with Chain Chomps doesn’t make much sense to me. Also the track lends itself to sandbagging (I think that’s what it’s called anyway), which I’m not that fond of with those 2 last minute shortcuts. I can see why ppl love it, but I’m more on the negative side personally.
Still, another excellent watch, I love seeing other people’s views on things like these so I found it enjoyable, have a nice day to whoever reads this!
No one else is commenting this so I may be mistaken but don't you always put the tracks in a tier list at the end of a level by level episode?
It’s pretty clear why the original retro tracks are better than the booster pack ones.
The booster pack tracks are just basically taken from Mario Kart tour. When they originally made those retro tracks, because it’s a phone game they weren’t able to put in as much detail.
Obviously Nintendo could have just actually re-made the tracks or atleast put in more details for the tracks when they get out on 8 deluxe, but they didn’t so…
I actually agree with Odyssey's opinion. By the way, before killing Sky Garden listen to the Mario Kart Tour version of Sky Garden's music remix.
My idea: a track with OFFICAL shroomless shortcuts that’s all
As someone who still enjoys Cheese Land, I can't in good spirit claim it to be a good retro track. The original track was meant to take place on a cheese planet, with an alien starry night background and an infestation of little Mousers. The Mario Kart 8 remake just turned it into a generic daytime desert theme, removed the Mousers, and decided to randomly add Chain Chomps since they had the asset leftover.
I hope Mario Kart 9 gives us GBA Bowser Castle 4 which would be completely different from the original like these tracks are. That track is so big it could even be turned into a 1 lap track
Even to this say it’s one of the most visually distinct bowser castles in the series
@@autismandgaming4532 like the big think in the bg is what looks like some sort of nuclear reactor.
@R S J Bowser Castle 4 is so unsettling. You're just in this giant rook with a high ceiling and no windows or anything. And then the room is filled with tons of lava and giant industrial gates and 2 giant glowing balls with Bowser's face on them with tons of cables going into then going around the whole room. This track in particular would be so great with a glowup to see the background better and see what the devs do with it
On cheese land, I can’t even move on the anti gravity part