My Thoughts on Counter-Strike 2 So far | fl0m
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0:00 Intro
0:41 Play-testing at Valve HQ
03:35 Beta Release and initial impressions
04:46 Deleting CS:GO was a good thing
05:46 Full Release
10:22 Pro Games and MR12
11:25 Current state of the game
12:48 Biggest issues currently with CS2
15:50 Summary and final thoughts
17:23 Outro
My Thoughts on Counter-Strike 2 So far - fl0m
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Man you captured everything perfectly, well done. Hope this gets the recognition from Valve it deserves...
Appreciate it
one thing is missing he didnt captured it, you still die off. behind walls and so on. or when you crouchpeek or crouch in a gunfight, u can literally feel that the enemie kills you in stand, but on your screen youre crouched. and die behind walls is still here after all of those updates. just watch f0rest or stewie die behind wall, forest on ancient. everything happened after all latest subtick updates. but overall a good video. we need bobcommands, serverlist INGAME, clantag option?! and so on. gamemodes. game is still a beta and losin players. valve did a dumb move. will be a hard way to get cs2 back on the card after these 2 months, still broken.
@@devnjin1337peekers advantage and server desync was mentioned. This is the same problem.
@@kingbobert2476 die behind walls is not peekers advantage ? and dieing in a gunfight with crouchmovement and so on isnt peekers advantage aswell. or is server desync the main problem from dieing behind walls/off aswell ? i dont think its just the server desync. why ?! all problems since subtick. i think subtick isnt a working system for onlinegames. maybe it works well on LAN. valve cant fix this since beginning of closed beta and aswell not since nearly 3 months. its released for the most ppl since 01/09 and for everyone since later september. still same problems with peekers advantage/dieing off. i play cs since 2009 but atm i really think cs2 is the death of cs. more and more players are leaving, valve need incredible long to fix problems, like always, when it is MAYBE fixed in 10(?!) years, i dont think everyone will come back to the game.
@@devnjin1337 Yeah no this is not an issue from subtick, subtick only made it more obvious that networking and server sync can never be perfect. You don't know what you are saying
As an old Counter-Strike Source player, I was amazed to see that the animation bug when removing the silencer (suppressor) from the M4A1-S still exists on CS2.
You would be freaked out how little has changed from CSS to CS2. A lot HAS changed, but a lot would be familiar for returning veterans.
A friend and I hopped on some CSS pugs and found the game really easy to get the hang of. We quickly became known as the "kids" (we're in our 20s) because everyone else in the server was 30+ 😂😂😂
The move to Source 2 is more for preventing Team Fortress 2-levels of technical debt/source spaghetti but because it’s still “Source” the new engine would still bring some demons along with it lol
CS:Source was complete derail from what CS was.
@@notrobert8284that happens when they throw their entire game through a translator and launch it the same year. Not just that but killed CSGO in the process, because people weren’t enjoying it. To “fix it” they shut down csgo and forced everyone unto cs2. Valve is desperate
@@EmilKLykke how are they desperate, valve prints money and can do whatever they want. If they deleted counter strike it would not matter.
In terms of the seattle play test, Fl0m said “I can’t believe I got to go”. He really couldn’t believe he got to 2
I see wot u did there :D
He got to two too
This one took a while at 7 in the morning hahah
I'm also very optimistic for the future of CS2. But updates need to continue to be released at a rapid pace.
We've had like 10 updates in the past week alone.
@@benpeterson1238 the average is generally one update every 2-3 days which is nice.
Demolition was so fun, it was all I played in csgo beta because I was new to the game and it's like bitesized de_.
@@benpeterson1238 Could have had 100 updates if they would just divide the changes into more updates. Think of how much better the game would be with 1000 updates.
The fact that valve had the foresight to not divide the community again like it was in 1.6 and source but can't get the community browser to not be a huge pile of shit like it has been for essentially the entire lifetime of the game is incredible.
The playerbase IS splitting between players leaving the game now, and players staying behind because they truly feel this was just as good if not better than GO.
And those who either have no opinions of their own, or are overly optimistic.
deleting a game that people paid money for to funnel them in to your new title is despicable, valve sucks ass for this and should not be commended
@@timzy11ful the game is free and if you did pay for it you got prime for "free" you didn't lose anything. If you didn't play in the time period where 1.6 and source coexisted its hard to describe how badly it fractured the competitive community.
Valve needs to get their shit together and add/fix the content that hasn't been added yet
The game was 20 dollars before it went free to play, so yes I paid 20 dollars for it. So did plenty of Mac users who can't play at all anymore.
1.6 and source were massively different games it obviously developed different fan bases. I liked 1.6 ....didn't like source.
6:50 I used to hop on just to play demolition or arms race, I'm VERY sad that they're gone and hope valve can add em back.
Surely they will. Hopefully 🤞🏽
I thought I was the only one, I loved the demolition map pool because it was unique
@@nolovedrjones9668 I love bank
If they ever add cl_bob, I hope they integrate it into the gameplay menu. There should be a menu where you can customize everything about your viewmodel, just like the crosshair. I mean it already exists in the game, why not add more customizability?
cause they are busy designing new knifes for Cs Casino players
something that looks simple to implement to you, can cost a week of work if not more
Thats unneccesary. There are more important issues to get fixed. Important is to have the command working.
That is not possible. They need a menu that just runs a command that exists in the game. Idk if you ever did ever programming but in this case it is literally very simple (like a weeks work for one guy MAX MAX)@@nb3775
@@nb3775 I normally agree with this, but OP is right all valve has to do is made these UI commands allowed without sv_cheats 1
This is a very eu problem but I'd like valve to separate servers in two halves. It's not specific to cs2 but getting into games with people that just DO NOT speak a word of english (mainly russian speaking obviously) and therefore never use the mic or even understand what you're saying to them isn't really fun. Or even better, they could add an option for people who do not want to communicate and that would fine, these no mic player would just go playing games against each other.
Separate = better
Russians are part of the difficulty and i will never forget to cyka rush b in desperate times. :D
But jokes aside a "no-mic gamemode" would be actually lit.
Yeah, why can't they do a CIS matchmaking?
That’s a big problem on the Asian server as well. If you play solo or with just one friend 90% of the time your team will be Chinese who don’t speak a word of english sprinkled in with the occasional Russian
put russians in own group and don't let anybody other in.
thank you for talking about the kz / surf community or just community servers in general it really blows how they fumbled the release of that aspect. I appreciate the eyes on it
yeah, when I get angry at premier because of cheaters and I switch to surf and chill, I have more frustrating ramp bugs that just make me want to uninstall altogether
Another thing about premiere. My buddy and I were around 10k, didn't play premiere much but he actually lost his rank from not playing. So we wanted to get him placed again. We got into a match with 16k's, stomped them, and he got placed in 16k after just being 10k. That seems like a massive oversight and ripe for abuse.
This happened to my friend. He got rank in 2 days after release and was like 11.7k around that. Then he stops playing for 1½ months and like 5 days ago we got him a rank back and he was insta 18.7k rating 😅 like Valve what the fuck? He has literally like 13 wins overall.
I've yet to win a premier match, so I have no idea what my rank is. All I know is that it's not placing me low enough to have any chance of having fun.
Yeah dude I fucking LOVE getting 3 ppl who just randomly won a lot bc they got carried against cheaters and losing even tho we start the game like 9-3 or 10-2 or 11-1
same with me. I was 9k, left for a while, won and got in 16k elo. I CANT COMPETE IN THIS LEVEL AT ALL 😭😭😭😭😭.
not the same thing but with 10 wins 2 losses in placements, supreme/global in csgo, got placed 11k. my friend, silver 3, 8 losses 10 wins in placements, placed 16k. wild
Favorite thing has to be the updated graphics with the most recent shooting update. The game when your firing just looks great and finally feels good. Shout out to valve for the update. Unfortunately the worst thing has to be the cheating. To be honest I don't even think I get a lot of cheaters but the fact that I have been cheated on before now leaves the door open for me to speculate no matter what game I'm in if I'm getting cheated on or not. It doesn't matter whether I am facing a cheater or not it's that valve leaves the door open for the possibility that it could be happening and I can never know. It just completely breaks the game of integrity and almost makes every match feel worthless.
To be real here: We are wasting our time.
It wouldn't be wasted, if we had fun at least, but the fun is quickly gone when a guy starts destroying after being stomped on for 6 rounds straight and now he's a god, killing everybody with one deags, only to be shit on again after stomping you for 6 rounds straight and so on, until you finally lose 13-11.
Yeah. What a drag.
I'd rather have to go to work for no pay, than play against cheaters...
A very BIG problem for me is the sh*tty delay on smokes extinguishing the mollies. This wouldn't be a problem if the nade's dmg would be the same as in CSGO but now ur taking 1 or even 2 ticks of a molly (which may add up to like 20 or 30 hp loss) before it's extinguished and I personally don't like it.
Yeah hope they change it asap
Oh no you can't instantly counter a 600 dollar nade with a 300 dollar one nooooo
@@RozKounelakionwell said
@@RozKounelakion do you really think the price of the nade is relevant in that discussion? also it's generally cts having to put out molleys on their spot in the context OP is complaining about.
@@ghiidra__not to mention smokes have more util and you're giving up a smoke that could be used to execute a site or defend post plant or retake in exchange for a faster push, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the "pricing" being off, you will still have times where people find it preferable to play slow and wait out the mollie, or where they've used their smokes.
Fl0m talking about CS2 reminds me of a POW story.
The thing about the peekers advantage is not only about peeking/being peeked. There's some sort of latency that allows that peekers advantage to happen in the first place. That same lag allows players to start shooting before you and you get sprayed faster than you can spray them. And also, the bigger issue, imo, is when that latency applies to crouching and counter strafing. It almost feels as if I'm shooting right through the guy, and he suddenly crouches or strafes away and I die, just to see 2-3 bullet hits at the end of the round. The server registers his action, but they are being rendered on my screen with the delay, making me shoot his "silhouette" 5-6 times falsely.
dude, having the classic steam server browser pop up and minimize my game brought me back at least 15 years, I don't know what valve was thinking. even most non-valve games that use valves server browser incorporate it into the game directly.
The one problem I'm having in CS2 right now is throwing nades. For some reason sometimes it feels like my click to throw a nade is not registering. And this is long after the pull-out animation is finished. They recently had a patch note about fixing this, but in my experience it actually got worse.
They fixed that in the last update
Another thing on the topic of nades: right now I feel as though nades can bounce really really weirdly, way more so now than in CS:GO. I'll throw what feels like a fairly standard molly down banana just for it to bounce off some pixel on the wall and fly up in the air/back at me.
Flom
@@ijakshdfuijasdfjdsof doesnt feel fixed, same thing still happening, this NEVER happened in csgo and when it did, you knew it was you just switching too early
@@chrlzcsI’m suffering from this so hard. I was always used to quick switch after a jump throw. I literally miss like 50% of my nades just because I switch too fast. I was wondering if it was just a my problem but I’m happy other people noticed it too. I felt like I was tweaking.
I miss surf SO much. I don't think there's really anything else which helps me unwind as much as surf does. I've rolled back to legacy csgo and played my old favourite surf server, but it's actually just quite sad to see a community in which I made friends in so utterly dead.
That fucking sucks, bro.... I don't even surf any more, but I really dislike how they handled community servers and workshop content.
Community is what made this game massive, and valve should be remembering where CS came from.
Ps I really hope you get your server and community back asap bro ❤
@@orbis17 Agreed - Valve really, really fucked this release. RIP
haha same thing happened when they released GO, sad thing was we didn't get server browser in GO for a long ass time.
I enjoy MR12, it allows me to maintain focus throughout the entire game rather than struggling to stay motivated when I'm behind in regular CS:GO. But I agree with you, the economy kind of sucks in the second half if you're already behind and don't win pistol/second round. Then you're just playing catch up.
I reached Global in global offensive, and hovered around Supreme/Global for months. Once the full release of CS2 came out, I solo/duo queued my placements and would play in 15,000+ elo lobbies and would perform very well. Then I got placed in 3,000 elo afterwards, and every time I would queue for a game I would play against 5 stacks, who all had 15k+ elo while I had 3k. Just didn't seem fair. Also a big one for me was that people would just throw games, a couple games during my placements I would have players on my team who wouldn't connect in time because they didn't like the map and then a surrender vote would start on round 1 and all it would take was 1 vote for the game to be over, and it COUNTED AS A LOSS. WHEN MY TEAMMATE DIDN'T EVEN CONNECT?
The cheating is also horrible, I get into so many games with brand new accounts, no hours, no badges, no commendations, with CS2 as the only game on their profile and they're so blatant. Which I don't understand because I have a good trust factor, and so do the people that I play with.
Game just isn't fun for me right now, and I don't enjoy the grind like I did in CS1. I'm about ready to sell all my skins and pass on the torch if they don't do something to improve the state of the game.
I think cheating in this game is a big issue, however people are paranoid. I came from valorant and i am accused of cheating every single game, because i play too good for my profile apparently. Not everyone who is sus is a cheater but i also understand the paranoia since i struggle with it myself, lol.
Trust me. If you got placed in 3k elo in cs2, u do not deserve 15k.
The elo for csgo was boosted. So many people who don’t deserve global or supreme
Or maybe the placement system is scuffed? When I am consistently winning games at 15k and performing at the top of the leaderboard in said games, and I don't get placed in the elo I am consistently playing at? This would be an issue no? I'm talking about a genuine issue that myself and several other people that I know who are Globals and Faceit 9/10s are having, yet you're bashing saying it's a skill issue. Not a very productive comment lmao.@@williamwalle1
Yeah I agree, there definitely is some good talent transferring over from other fps games. But usually you can tell with those players that they have actual fps knowledge. I was more talking about the games where one of the enemies is just using a scout and triggerbotting/prefiring heads. I have had multiple games with these kinds of cheaters and it's just tiring lol.@@1bullneck1
You're right on with Valve dropping the ball with community servers. Coming from a huge surf enjoyer and man.. the current state of it, even 2 months after release is just awful. I do have faith that the server selection screen they'll update/fix but the new movement is a huge reason surf just like kz is unenjoyable atm and I'm not sure when or even if that gets addressed.. which bums me out
I agree, the movement feels both faster than go and at the same time slower when it comes to jumping/movement. It just doesn't feel good. I think part of the reason they have such a big issue with the peakers advantage is stemming from how fast people can zoom around a corner at full speed. You can literally move so fast that you don't show up on the opponents screen before you are able to stop moving and quickly pop their head. Like he showed its normal for people to not even see you on the screen before they die.
Surfing has got to be the lamest thing a human can do
Favorite thing is follow crosshair. I never really played cs before the beta launched, and didn't play go over the summer much while waiting for release. So for me the bullets not tracking the crosshair was a big(if short lived) problem. That small change greatly increases my engagement.
better visibility on some maps (inferno is just cluttered as are some other areas of certain maps) is the only major improvement so far.
I ran into cheaters for 5 premier games in a row, I then went to casual and there was 2 cheats on BOTH teams in casual. They got kicked but it just goes to show that like literally EVERY match has like at least closet cheaters.
I've only gotten 2 cheaters in the past 40 matches. Are you sure they're not just better than you? These "closet cheaters" as you put it?
@@Scyborg832 I'm faceit lvl 10 with 5.1k hours and currently 19k in premier. I can tell the difference.
@@Scyborg832the amount of times myself or my mates have been accused of cheating… when we literally are mid at best, is insane. I don’t disagree there are cheaters on the game, but you’re right - there’s just SO many people that are convinced they’re playing against cheaters when in fact they’re just playing against better players.
Hey unrelated question but how are you getting the kz stats to show in workshop maps? I can't seem to find the plugin.
Really like hearing your thoughts on this. As someone who didn't play a lot of CSGO, but has already put in 300 hours into CS2, I'm having a ton of fun. The biggest things for me are anti-cheat and more content
This was a refreshing take, just you being honest. I'm not playing Premier too much so am curious as to just what makes it so bad, I know you touched on it a bit.
For competitive I wish they'd show ranks in the lobby, I feel like that's such a simple UI change and it's weird they didn't implement it just like with CSGO.
I was a big AWPer in CSGO, but it just feels nasty now. Flicking just isn't possible, it feels stiff or something. And pistols are truly awful.
On the lower end of things, Premier is an utter shitshow.
I was inactive for the last years of CSGO, so started out in Silver. For whatever reason, 9/10 times now my games are wildly imbalanced. My team will have an average rating of around 4.7-4.9k while the opposing team will have 7-8k. This imbalance is made worse by the concept of having "promotion" and "relegation" matches. With just normal rating, I'd be climbing significantly as 1 win in 5 games, with the MMR imbalance in the games, should resulting in maintaining rating, and anymore than that should result in an increase.
But with the promotion and relegation games, any excess rating from a win is just deleted. E.g. instead of going from 4.9 to 5.4k with a win, you just go to 4.999.
It just turns playing premier into an awful slog of imbalanced games.
I have hundreds of hours in AWP community servers. New AWP feels absolutely terrible. Playing CS2 is a massive letdown, I miss KZing so much
Spray and movement has definately improved, overall I enjoy the game alot. Cheaters are running rampant again, used to have cheaters in maybe 25pct of the games, but now it's more like 75pct. The artificially low ranks are so stupid, actual silvers get grouped or queued against silvers or novas that are actualy global - it's unbalanced and not fun for anyone.
Regarding premier, 5 stacks should only be matched against other 5 stacks.
Yeah the artificially Low ranks are insane, I hope they can figure out how to fix that/calibrate the system soon.
On the other note I can't remember playing against a single cheater. I know VAC Live doesn't really work and is giving more false bans than bans to actual cheaters.
Thank you flom for bringing up these points. I have to admit, spraying and first bullet accuracy were a big problem up untill this last patch, but now it feels great, even maybe more crisp than csgo.
I really haven't come across many cheaters recently so this issue has also taken a back seat imo. Right now my biggest concern is probably the lack of content (mainly game modes and maps) but also features like cl_invnextgun not being present. Also some bugs like if you alt tab when a game is being loaded, the screen would flicker and the game would suddenly switch to your second monitor, which is very annoying.
Two other points I agree on area that premier seems broken (I still don't have a rank and I get destroyed by 2k's but yesterday we bounced back and won on overtime from a 1-9 against 7k's); and the alt tabbing for the community browser is just inconvenient.
But all in all I think CS2 is definitely getting there. I really like what Valve has done with the game.
Can someone tell me the part where they plant the bomb like they did in the short that links to this video? Want to see the extended version of the short but can’t seem to find it scrubbing through
Really enjoying CS2 same as I did CSGO (maybe a little less) but yeah peeker's advantage is a big old problem and even hit registeration in general. It's like everyone including me gets an anti aim power up sometimes. Directional audio still isn't great both when you're alive and when spectating. The movement and jumping still feels off at times, I've struggled more with crouch jumping now than when I first played CSGO. And finally as mentioned the tracers still aren't 100% which can be highly irritating.
Should it have been fully released yet? Honestly no I think waiting until the new year would have made more sense. I can't give Valve a thumbs up for this, they had an incredible blueprint with CSGO and decades of prior experience so the amount of issues the game launched with and even in it's current state overall tthey have missed the mark.
Like I said though, still love playing it. *loads up CS2*
My favorite thing has to be the smoke changes from one ways not being a thing anymore, to smokes filling up areas making certain lineup a lot easier as well being able to remove them with a grande.
I hate the peakers advantage there has been many times when I’m full cover and my brain gets pop and I don’t even know where from
There are still oneways. They are just very different. And now they are even worse than in csgo.
Great video as always fl0m
There's also a current bug where people are getting kicked from casual lobbies for team damage when there isn't any team damage. It happened to me yesterday while spraying smoke with no one even in the smoke.
I'm honestly glad it's released! Yes it's lacking a lot but it's gradually improving, almost as fast as CSGO did in its first year!
I’ve been surfing for years, the combination of bad server browser and bad jumping ruins the entire category of servers. I noticed the random inconsistent jumping (height and velocity) the first time I played CS 2. If jumping isn’t the same as csgo all kz maps will be unplayable and all surf maps will have their records invalidated
rest in peace jailbreak maps
They fixed the jump inconsistency, I can hit bhops way more consistently now. But, something is just.. not right with surfing. I have no idea what it is but the velocity feels so strange when surfing now.
I remember so vividly the 1.6 and source divide. I actively refused to play source as it just felt like absolute garbage. The only map I'd play would be iceworld for fun with mates and that even felt like a joke
Yes! Perfectly summed it up. Also sometimes the awp just straight up misses shots that are clearly on the enemy
Favorite thing is I agree the the gameplay is feeling a lot better now. On release a friend of mine who has been playing CS before I ever even touched a computer was so upset and disappointed when CS2 launched because the movement and spraying was broken. Now he actually plays the game with us again and seems to enjoy it for the most part.
Something I hate from a casual (I know, filthy) perspective is how long it takes to get out of placement matches. It feels like the matchmaking doesn’t lower the skill gap based on losses. There were nights where we would lose every single game and the opposing team would just get harder and harder as we went. Now that we are finally placed, we are getting more balanced matches, but it’s been two months and some of us still haven’t gotten our ten wins.
You haven't gotten 10 wins on Premier in 2 months? Yeah... I don't think that's a cs2 problem man
@@RozKounelakion I mean to each their own. I know I’m not the best and neither is my group. We can’t/don’t play everyday for 4+ hours so it’s usually once or twice a week since we all work and do other things in our free time. Just saying from a person/group that doesn’t play very often.
@@MrSuspenser yeah I get what you mean but you're just a non competitive group playing a competitive game mode so I guess losing is pretty standard. Especially if you guys are 5 stack. 5 stacks sweat it out hard in premier
@@RozKounelakion for sure for sure. And even in the video fl0m said there were plenty of times that he went up against people that were half his skill rating. Even if we lost a ton the matchmaking should put us in 1-2k lobbies but we all got placed in 5-6k lobbies for whatever reason.
Well i got a teammate that got 10elo rating after 10 games with 33% winrate and he was like the worst player in the lobby each game, the rest of us are at 5k and 6k elo
For the jumping inconsistencies, use desubticked binds, also makes bhops more consistent aswell. I really wish they would bring back dead strafes so ljs are more skillful. Jump bugs now make noise aswell, not all the time but most. The jumpbug height is also random.
The thing that gets to me the most is the insane peeker's adv. It destroys my enthusiasm to play the game. Also the server browser alt-tabbing the game is making me avoid it completely since alt-tabbing while using a custom stretched resolution feels like torture to the monitor
Use gpu scaling, helps with faster alt tabbing
This is really great to see. I am glad to have an optimistic voice in the community and a sea of pessimism on the future of Counter Strike.
Although I should probably stop watching videos on all the skin prices crashing. That's bringing a lot of the pessimism in. HMM.
I think most people dogging on the game still have optimism in regard to the game's success. I have a lot of issues with the game and definitely complain when I get tapped when I was behind the wall for a solid half second on my screen, but I think the game will eventually iron itself out.
I think this game is miles away from what it was upon release. And I was always optimistic. I knew comparing CS2 to what CSGO was after like 12 years was unfair, as CSGO had 12 years of development and CS2 maybe has 2 years, max. I think we are incredibly fortunate Valve is the dev on this as they have rolled out borderline daily updates since release. The audio is so much better, the shooting is ALMOST perfec, the movement is almost perfect as well, the maps are beautiful. This game Is so much better than what it was simply a week ago, not to mention since it was released or in open beta. I'm so excited for the future of this game
Cs2 isnt really a new game tho, its csgo basically upgraded on new source engine.
@@hattorihanzo562you think porting to a different engine is just a copy paste? There are so many variables. Its almost harder than starting from 0 in the sense that you have a bar to reach as close as possible while the whole game works completely differently
CS2 Development started in 2017.
Movement is almost perfect? Bro. Did you ever play on 128 tick in csgo?? Comments like that Makes me think you are very low skilled.
I miss old maps like cache, train, cobble. Those were some fun and solid maps to play. When they will be ready for cs2, valve should add them to premier instead of ancient and anubis.
Anubis is a great mab, and ancient is better than half of those maps. If they're going to remove any maps it should be mirage and vertigo.
ancient is probably the best map, unironically. however, cache is the goat and train is highly competitive. I also love cobble.
Anubis is, not strong... vertigo, trash.@@bbydykdyl7779
@@bbydykdyl7779dito. PLZ remove stupid ass vertigo and Mirage. 1 map u can hear every fucking Sound, the other one has been played 1 thrillion times……I mean even every Pro player wants it removed so Why tf do they keep it ….
I'm so glad to finally see one person that is excited about CS2 release instead of always looking at the negatives. I believe that CS2 will eventually be the BEST FPS game ever to exist just like what CSGO was for a lot of people. Thank you fl0m for the great video!
on point nothing more to say! btw you forgot the twitch link in the description or am i blind?
I really liked this video, fl0m! Great points being made and it's great to listen to you talk.
As part of the mm issue, I would love to see a partnership happen with faceit/esea being integrated into the game. I think this could also benefit from a server issue, ping, playerbase segregation, cheaters, etc.
Does anyone else run into the problem of a random alt tab out of the game? It happens only once each play session and fortunately hasn't killed me yet but is very annoying and feel like its going to at some point
Yeah
a good thing about the server browser, it is visible and not hidden away in another menu like in csgo. thats all
I agree that the gameplay is almost there, the big thing they need to mess with is as you said the peekers advantage, its so incredibly bad in this game. I thought I was slipping reaction time wise or something, but nah, I tested and Im actually better than ever. (170-180ms average) and man if you are playing against people who just wide swing and know how to preaim it is almost impossible to beat them. I even started swinging more to compensate for this (it works lmao), and I really dont like it. I am usually an angle holder/awper and it feels like my entire play style got nerfed.
“People who just wide swing and know how to pre-aim.” So you mean…. Like people who can see through walls? Perhaps peekers advantage has inadvertently just created a situation in which there was already a cheating problem in CSGO but in CS2 we just feel it more now. Did CS2 give all the closet cheaters an even bigger leg up since it’s way harder to deal with them now… 🤔
@@aviansays The best anticheat design is the game itself. Back in the old CS days you had cheaters sure, but anything that started getting even slightly sus would be looked by a community server staff member and then theyd probably be manually banned. That also meant cheaters were spread out amongst a huge variety of servers, gamemodes, and communities. Not to mention less incentives to cheat like no real ranks (besides server plugins that werent universal) and finding cool communities to hang with. Not to mention people could just leave a server at any point and migrate to others if that particular one was getting rekt by a cheater and nobody was on to ban them.
If you take the modern approach to 'competitive' online play which is dump everyone into a massive cesspool of players they dont have a connection to at all, and force them to stay in a game with no manual reviewers or moderators present, and then give them arbitrary 'ranks' to flex on other randos with, of course you are gonna have an absolute load of cheaters and the entire thing is gonna fall apart. Cheaters have always been a thing in online games, but the issues they caused havent been this massive until now, and theres your reason why.
If we remain in the centralized server competitive scene, we are going to have these issues. There is an absolute load fo cheaters at this point, but if the community wants the one click competitive mode, they will have to live with this. This game has cheaters, valorant has cheaters, apex has cheaters, they all do.
@@aviansays Do you think all people that pre-aim are wall hackers, like what?
I watched the whole video and I think you brought really good points there so that the game would be better in the future fl0m, like the peeker's advantage, the MR12 economy being off, the matchmaking system still suck etc. Those are all really good valid points.
But to me, the anti-cheat should come first, that is the golden priority, followed by the tick/server improvements(Which would include stuff like tweaking the peeker's advantage, dying behind walls and awp flick registries being awful), then third would be gunplay and movement in general, forth would be to optimise performance for better fps so you wouldn't need a $5000> PC to run CS2 at 240fps, fifth would be anything else like community servers, other gamemodes like demolitions, danger zone etc.
I agree - with 4,500 hours in CSGO - I uninstalled CS2 until they fix the cheating - or at least make some effort. They are obvious cheaters not private coded ones that could take time to find. I found myself not enjoying the game - its a game I play to have FUN, cheaters every game is not fun.
i have a question
does premiere mode divide the players when matchmaking??
if yes then isnt this creating the same problem of splitting the player base?
the biggest problem according to me beside the gameplay is
the matchmaking system and how its just a one sided game
there needs to be more divide in between ranks or more sub ranks
so the matchmaking doesn't feel hollow in some cases
but with premier if its splitting the community
1 it will hollow up that space even more for both sides because obviously player base is limited
and the most important part because of this hollow space the match making system is forced to pick players from different rank pools
that is why matches are 1 sided
so either they need to created sub ranks to be more precise
or get rid of premier system so player base gets populated again for ezier matchmaking
This is my first CS and I am hooked.
It wasn’t ready for release but you can tell how hard they’ve been working on it and they deserve credit for that. Compared to beta I’m loving how the game is feeling and improving. And once they get all of that down, we’ll start getting new content and this could be the best version of CS yet. I really believe it will be
I just need custom games in my life
Favorite thing(s) are the abilities resell my weapons if I missclicked. And I like the option to disable my suppressor with mouse 2.
My least favorite parts of cs2 are things you mentioned.. peekers advantage being so strong, and the removal of mods outside of competitive play.
Great video though! 🙌
Very nicely said mate. I just have to say one very rng thing to say that's been bugging me for a while.. You remind me so much of Val Kilmer from that old Doors movie. Every time I watch your videos or stream I just cannot unsee it. 😄
Cheers
was never a fan of fl0m as a streamer. but found some good, fair and balanced words. thanks man
i been wanting old maps back for awhile.. old cobble,cache and train at least. and yes please more focus on the anti cheat / overwatch + announce(tweet) how many cheaters that have been banned to help prevent more people from cheating or something.
I miss css old competitive map cpl_mill , cpl_fire etc
They should not only add them back for casual but for actual matchmaking aswell. I cant believe we cant play the new Italy in matchmaking right now... Why even bother remaking a map if most people will barely play on it because its locked to stupid casual...
Train was in the trailer, so it's going to be back eventually. It's also strange how Mirage is basically unchanged, so I think they are going to retire it later on to upgrade it's visuals.
something u didn't talk about,although its not a massive deal for a lot of people for some of us who like playing DM on official servers its A HUGE issue,being unable to use AK's as a CT on DM and basically practise with a gun from the other side simply because all spots on that side are taken is a HUGE problem
When the sprays and tracers got better, something happened to the easy crisp one tap headshots. Too many clear hits are going to Narnia instead.
Lots of hackers. Handful of glitches. Valve please fix.
Constant crashes too
10 years talking about cheat, why do you think valve will fix it? They heard about this but dont care!! That why i moved to valorant
And no fucking content
We need intrusive anti-cheat, real time bans. Valve should have bought Faceit, straight up. It makes so much sense. Their stubbornness and arrogance is the reason why they didn't. Its also not cool how many issues there are and things missing in the context of completely replacing the CSGO client. People like to say "Oh CSGO had a rocky start" like its an excuse. They had 11 years since then with many lessons learned, its not the same Valve, they should be more experienced and better prepared. You don't get a free pass like you did when GO came out ELEVEN YEARS AGO.
We've seen glimpses of why they do this when their engineers post stupid shit on twitter. Their tech leads don't play the game, are arrogant, and stubborn. I'm in software development and its a common thing. Your job is to do what's best for the app and PAYING CUSTOMERS, not what you think* is best.
I also don't like how they are preventing 128 tick servers and certain commands. They don't want us to see what's really going on with latency. This in the context of CS is a big no no. Its a community built game from the ground up, from the mod itself at the start to the maps, and how ranked has shaped up today. Full disclosure and sharing should be the norm like it was in CSGO. They know there are problems with sub-tick 64 tick servers, and are too arrogant to admit it.
Valve gets too many free passes. I'm a huge fanboy of them but even I can say they messed up a lot here. There is great great potential with CS2, but I just don't get why the swap had to happen NOW. Couldn't have waited 9 more months with more community involvement? Why did CSGO have to die? Could have frozen the skin economy on CSGO and just left the game up for those that want to stay until CS2 is in better shape. Let the transition happen naturally. If they were gamers and paid attention they would have learned this from the disaster of Overwatch 2 and its similar replacement of the original...
I was so damn hyped for cs2, believing it would reignite my love for CS that frankly has continued to lower over time.
I thought it would be such a banger, that I will play it for months before even thinking I would touch anything else.
I thought it would bring back all those people in my friends list who haven't been online in years.
Instead... I don't play it right now.
It has potential but is lacking in SO many aspects.
I might look into It by like mid 2024 or something when they hopefully fix most of the stuff that annoys me.
Least favorite thing: went from getting FPS I could live with (kinda keeping up with my monitor’s refresh rate of 60hz) to FPS I cant (like 15-20) on my computer. I don’t play counter strike anymore because I don’t have the money to invest in a beefier PC rn (and honestly dont have time either)
i own csgo for 5years, played 300h on cs and a 100h on cs2, i gained so much skills when csgo2 came out, found good people that taught me allot and now im out of silver and when i solo queue or even 3stack with let's say 7-8k elo you get with people 4k or even 3k elo on your team and then the enemy team has a 10k elo and three 9k. The rank doesn't mean everything but it does mean a lot. That's my take on the Premier matches, overall really cool and i love that we get to ban maps but the ranking and matchmaking let's to be desired if that makes sense.
also PS: Flom you are the first streamer i watch almost daily and that makes good content in my eyes, your tutorials helped me a lot, keep it up and keep doing what you love
I need my left handed model back. I am sure the game is going to be great as times goes on, but my god is it frustrating to play right now. Getting peeked and killed while someone isn't even on your screen just feels horrible. Great video though fl0m!
I'd love for them to tone down the recoil screen shake.
Very good video, New favorit channel, played 1.6 and before and someone told me that its s New CSGO 2 and I loved it. But I do miss Aztec and train, when do you think we will Get more Maps 😊
I haven't played CS since 2018 or so... and I'm going to be honest playing CS 2 feels like I've been there done that. Wish it had more of a overhaul maybe even map redesigns not just a touch up on graphics and a few things like registering shots work better. CS CZ to Source was a massive change and such an amazing feel this was way to safe to me. But It does look gorgeous now and that's cool but I think ill be waiting.
Yeah, my buddies who haven't played for a long time got excited about CS2 release and what they got was a half-baked release.
i just started playing cs for the first time. only been playing for a month and really love it started buying skins and adding stickers then today my steam was hacked and all my skins were transferred or sold. really bummed cause i usually play solo and i finally found a spark in gaming again then this happens...still trying to get my account back and i even had 2 step verification and everything else
I really would like some proper mic settings in game???? like its 2023 and for some reason the mic i use with an audio interface just doesnt work. I'm having to use my webcam mic on CS2. The other mic works on literally everything else just fine i dont understand
i love the galil change from go, makes it a viable eco buy
I played CS:GO quite consistently before CS2 was even announced, and I had pretty high expectations because GO was effectively just left for dead with no new operations or major content update for nearly 2 full years, so seeing the actual release with nothing to show for content was extremely disappointing. I remember back in like 2015 or whichever operation it was, that valve released their new AI for the missions that was tracking people through walls and I vividly remember seeing pros like Shroud and others trying and failing at many of the missions because it was so hard, but even so with all of the scuff and pain, it was still a lot of fun because there was still that content there. The CS2 beta and release on the other hand were just the pain and scuff with no content.
I'm not a Cs player. I never even played CSGO. I really wanted to try CS2 when I saw the trailer as the fps market is so dry. I couldn't get it the movement drove me mad. Half the time it felt like I was sliding on ice and the other half It felt like have my inputs were ignored. Don't know if that's just me not knowing that that is CS movement or if that's a genuine issue. If it can be dialled in to be more precise I'll try it again
Favourite thing - smokes.
Least favourite - mouse delay.
The 1.6 vs Source divide was insane.
im with on you on the 1.6 source split I remember just being depressed pugging if i could find one on esea becuase mostly everyone went over to play source. then eventually it just petered out to only like custom maps. eventually just died completely. :/ im glad that we dont have that divide with this game now. I complain about it a lot but i really do enjoy playing the game i enjoy carrying noobs. I actually enjoy most of the aspects of cs2. there are alot of problems with the sub tick still. I think those issues are going to be solved. But if you ask me right now a lot of the registers are chance registers. I mean Ive aimed on the opponents head for at least .5 .6 ms waited intentionally to shoot still shot before the other person i hit for 0 and they kill me. Is what i mean. I think that if they can fix that issue above all or at least have a 87% hit positive action this game will be good.
I have been playing CS since 1.6, but the one thing I miss from CS:GO is Arms Race. At the end, I was playing that more than anything else.
still dont know how premier elo works, i worked my ass of getting 1.2kd overall with 44% win rate got 3,5k after 10 wins, when my friend got 0.63kd and 43% win rate and got 6k immediately after 10 wins
Pretty sure performance is not taken into account, would love to be proven wrong though
@@alfred9805 assuming they're using csgo formula, individual performance, as measured by the number of MVP awards (stars) you receive and your overall kill/death ratio, can also impact the rank. Really want cs 2 to adapt this again.
solid review bud!
Solo que premier has been elo hell for me. My unranked games were all 12k+ games, but after doing all 10 wins, the game gave me 5k. I was fine with that initially until my ques still only give me games with 12ks and 15ks.
I only really got into cs in the last year.
And as someone who wasn’t stuck in a comp mindset vs premier. I rather play comp and try getting my rank up on individual maps.
Also my mode choice was comp then flying scoutsman then wingman so completely irradiating a mode is insane to me even if it is temporary, it’s still a step backwards.
there is new glitch in game when you disconnect and reconnect you can see ghost player somewhere in the map and also huge stutter warp problems, could be something to do with poor servers or 3rd party cheaters
The random phoon clip made me think of the song
Playing around the new smokes is amazing. Loved every second to exploring how they function with their own hitboxes. However, Peakers adv. right now makes me feel like I'm not allowed to see the guy peaking me before I'm dead. I had to put the game down. I'd love to come back, but I'm not playing a 30 minute game where I die 6 times to people not on my screen. Too aggravating
Flom what kz server is this? i only saw a few and they all have no plugin working. i'm on withdrawal pls help
You could release the first recording, it would be fun to see what you were going to adress and changed.
cover is a bit squishy as well, people dying through some crazy corner shots
totally agree with the stuff that has to be fixd! Hope it does not take so long since personally im not playing until these things get fixd.
Good Video to see. Hope handsome dev also see's this video and make tweaks to the game
can we talk about this bob ross standup
Arms race was my warmup. It forced me to use weapons I wouldn’t normally use.
I still think 50 ping feels like the new 80. I dont know if they can fix it but in big regions like NA 50 ping is common
I have bad wifi so I get 60-70 on servers closest to me and it didnt affect me much on Csgo but Cs2 its terrible.
Banger of a video!
Above all i want them to bring back how seamless alt-tabbing was in CSGO. In CSGO you could alt-tab and be in your desktop in a split second but in CS2 you have to wait which is pretty lame. I know they could do it because I've seen it done before with more demanding games, but have no knowledge as to what factors go in
Are you using borderless window instead of full screen? Alt tabbing isn't a problem on my machine
The problem is full-screen borderless is fine but nobody wants to play with that delay@@dvsday684
I wish Premier was also performance based.
The split when cal league was a thing was wild! 1.6, source and condition zero 🤣🤦♂️
A fun fact if you are reading this, cs2 was released exactly on my birthday :) (not the year ofc but 27.9.)
my biggest problem is surfing is still broken, this might have been ok had they had workshop support out even a couple of months ago giving people more time to figure out porting surf maps.
I literally just surfed last night, what are you talking about
Issues i have is the run and gun routing through servers which makes the game feel like 10 tick.