Why tf is sukuna at 15 fingers a coughing baby, I think yall are forgetting the fact that Shibuya gojou doesn’t have small domain due to not being in prison realm, 😂 all Sukuna has to do is last for like a minute or two and gojous cooked on the first clash, unless gojou somehow cooks sukuna on the first clash, which I doubt a 5 finger difference would do anything, also Sukuna can increase his durability output but it would just require more ce, don’t think it’s a problem though with him having over yutas amount at 15 fingers.
@@lurisy9045bro sukuna is NOT winning because he has no way of bypassing infinity without domain also after domain clashes sukuna can’t use it no more leaving him with no offense and if gojo used purple he’d be cooked cuz mahoraga can’t tank it for him
@THEGOAT_v2 that's highly debatable. Gojo in this scene can do a lot more in his domain. His abilties cannot be nullified so he can lapse blue, red and purple inside the domain . Which is important because he can easily destroy shrine from within the domain. He doesn't have to inflict damage strictly to sukuna to stop shrine. The domain clashes would go the same meaning gojo would possibly just lose the first one until he adapts and then Sukuna can't get touched at all or unlimited void lands which seals the victory for Gojo.
I know everyones saying, "Oh hed just win" but Jaded adressed that first. He went out of his way to create a more interesting scenario than just Gojo wins, and I think thats deserving of something Good video
True. Although realistically Gojo is bodying a Shibuya yujikuna without 10s. Although it really crazy how much stronger Sukuna becomes when he gets 5 more fingers
@@lil_brook97it’s an interesting scenario, but the girls and Jogo wouldn’t have had a chance to feed Yuji those fingers if Gojo didn’t get sealed. Sukuna wouldn’t even have come out. I do wonder how they would’ve gotten those fingers to Yuji though if he wasn’t passed out like that.
Actually no what about him vs sukuna in megumis body that still has to happen and did I mention no maki change and also someone has to fight the main antagonist of the story line this is anime
@@KillUaYTNif were saying 15 finfer sukuna in megumis body then gojo still wins Sukuna is weaker then his 20 finger self And mahoraga would get slapped by gojo since gojo already has knowledge about it and + gojo defeated a buffed mahoraga summoned by a 20 finger sukuna Basically 1 domain expansion would kill both sukuna and maho
6 eye'd hydrogen bomb vs 4 coughing baby cursed spirits, his ex boyfriends zombie body, choso (a part of me hopes he gets spared), and a 15 finger heian todler Nah, he'd win
It's actually 16 finger Sukuna, Gojo could have problems with Sukuna even if he's not at his full power, just because Gojo before Shinjuku doesn't have a counter against barrierless domains, and I don't think fingers affect the domain refinement so they would be equal and Sukuna would have an advantage cuz he's able to break Gojo's domain from the outside.
@InkRQ and than what? Gojo can survive inside the 20f domain without much trouble, only using simple domain and RCT, if you reduce the output on top of that by taking away the fingers, sukuna will be beyond cooked. If gojo can combat 20f sukuna effectively within the shrine's range, he can do the same here.
*If Gojo is not sealed the story literally ends since he no diffs any threats heck almost everyone says if Gojo Satoru wasn't sealed him and him alone would've folded every single one of them*
@@sidecharacter3193 The gap between Shibya Gojo and Shinjuku Gojo is way smaller than Sukuna's. Sukuna was 5 fingers stronger and had 10s, Gojo had inverted domain shell. Gojo would body a 15 finger sukuna.
@@zaimbaig5832 20 finger Sukuna matched Gojo in domain refinement, which means 15 finger sukuna straight up has a weaker domain. Gojo tanks his domain regardless.
I can answer this quickly: If Gojo is around, none of the villains can do anything. They had to seal him away, or the plan would NOT have worked. Even if 15 finger Sukuna came out, Gojo would stomp him at that level
there's one thing people don't get, Gojo can taught himself new things out of nowhere, like the domain shrink thing, he only needs to know that something is possible, and he does it, no questions needed, no need to see it either, he just needs to know if it is posisble, and he will get it somehow after some tries, and so, people who say "Gojo wouldn't learn this or that" the thing about Gojo is that he's a anomaly, he's absurdly strong and smart, he would learn other things in different timelines, and that also goes to Sukuna btw, people who say Sukuna slams, are dumb, but also not wrong, because Sukuna can learn just by seeing something once, Gojo can learn by knowing it is possible, they are monsters
@@Mosaic-xeroxNo tf he doesn’t, that’s a wild take. Not having basketball domain doesn’t mean that he loses. It just means that it’s harder. Think about it, by reversing his domain barrier conditions he was able to let it withstand malevolent lent shrine. Sukuna countered by restricting malevolent shrine to only the outside of Gojos domain, increasing the output. 20 finger sukuna using a FP malevolent shrine matched Gojos inverted domain. Only when Sukuna used a BV did he overpower it. Nerfing Sukuna by 5 fingers would make it so that Sukuna wouldn’t be able to overpower Gojos inverted domain even if he did buff it, because the domains broke literal hundredths of seconds apart. The margin of error in their fight was so low, that a 5 finger nerf on Sukuna would seal his fate. The fight wouldn’t even get to the point that Gojo would have to use a basketball domain. It’s not close. Plus without mahoraga Sukuna wouldn’t be able to escape IV.
I don't think people understand and broken of a character gojo is, the guy is super smart and super talented. Even gege said it that gojo has no talent since he can practically do anything he tries. I have sat and thought about it and realised how much of gojos abilities and potential were wasted, like there is so much he could have done with limitless and infinity. And the world cleave stuff makes no sense to me. WHAT DO YOU THINK????
I don't think 15F Sukuna vs Gojo is as close as you make it out to be. Sukuna is on a pretty tight time limit and he is unable to use Malevolent Shrine, since using it would kill everyone in a 200 meter radius and force Gojo to lay out his own domain, the result of which would be Sukuna either losing the clash or being beat up so badly his domain collapses. Added to that, we know Sukuna is not so powerful that he can just one shot Mahoraga, the fight between those two had Sukuna at a clear advantage for the duration but it went on for a while. Sukuna's summons grow in strength compared to Megumi's, as seen with Nue, and even with that strength increase (presumably) applying to Mahoraga, Gojo still states he should be able to one tap it in his fight in Shinjuku. So the gap in strength is purpotedly _massive_ between Gojo and something strong enough to put up a fight against Sukuna.
I don’t think Mahoraga grows relative to the user. Because say, if Mahoraga was 1.5x the strength of his summoner, then the summoner would be fucked. But 15F Sukuna mid-high diffed Megumi‘s Mahoraga and he probably had to defeat him again at 20 Fingers to take him for himself off screen. If Mahoraga actually was the strength of 30 Fingered Sukuna, yeah, Sukuna wouldn’t have even needed to fight Gojo at that point.
@@gotzvonunentberlichingen1452 that feels like crazy headcannon ngl 😂 if the manga says the shadows power changes by user, should that not apply to all unless stated otherwise?
@ , I’m not sure where that‘s supposed to be stated. And think about it for more than one second. Every Shadows user before Sukuna was unable to beat Mahoraga. So that means that Mahoraga is always materialised a tad bit more powerful than the summoner. Then Sukuna came and was actually able to beat his Mahoraga. So either, everyone but Sukuna gets a Mahoraga stronger than themselves or Mahoraga is consistently created at a certain power level, that happens to be higher than every ten shadows user in history but weaker than 15 F Sukuna. And why would Megumi use Mahoraga as a trumpcard if Mahoraga was weaker than him?
First what if and honestly one of my favourite jjk what ifs I've seen yet lol. It went over everything, What would probably happen. What would be most fun. And then so on and so forth, it covered everything Very well made, definitely a well earned like and subscribe
Sukuna is missing a quarter of his power, and lacks the ten shadows. All Gojo lacks is the basket domain trick, which he can substitute for with inverting his barriers exterior and interior, or he'd just withstand and out heal malevolent shrine.
It's worth noting that Sukuna may not have Domain Amplification. We don't know when it came to be, but everyone other than Sukuna and Higuruma that we've seen use the move learned it from Kenjaku. Unless Sukuna figured it out on his own or Kenjaku discovered it back in the Heian Era, he might not even have it to use against Satoru.
I think for argument sake we can just give domain amplification to sukuna because he is a quick learner and it's pretty easy to do and unlike everyone in the series, he can do while his domain is up. But if he doesn't then yeah sukuna is cooked
@@ThePsycoNinja Totally fair, I'm not even trying to say it's likely that he doesn't, it was just a consideration. But yeah, he could definitely figure it out on the fly. It is Sukuna, after all.
@brokenamvs9707 Well tbh, Gojo or Choso could have mentioned it during the timeskip. It was used against Gojo and Choso was part of the plan where it was used, so they could easily tell everyone about it. Even then, Sukuna's been sealed for centuries, so that's plenty of time for it to get out without him learning of it.
Gojo had Sukuna near death when he had Megumi's body and was running a 3 v 1 against him, and would've won without the world cutting slash. So a 15 finger Sukuna without Megumi's body, not in Heien era form, without Mahoraga or Agito is getting DOG WALKED by Gojo. Bad.
Yeah the fact that gojo was able to go toe to toe with arguably sukunas strongest form, meguna, means that he should have no issues clearing this version of him
I love that Gojo fans are always conveniently leaving out the "i would probably lose even without 10S" and "I gave it all but it's still not enough" whenever this kind of topic is brought up lmao.
Just because Gojo "might" lose doesn't mean he can't win. This is old debate bro, Sukuna (20F) and Gojo are blatantly 50/50 and it could go either way in terms of power (be it Sukuna+WorldCuttingSlash+noTS rematch/Heien-era Sukuna/Meguna). It was literally the resource mismatch (Sukuna knowing more about Gojo than Gojo knowing about Sukuna) that got Sukuna the win and Mahoraga, since Gojo was just freestyling while Sukuna had that main strat from the very beginning.
@spacedinosaur9459 Ah yes, let's ignore the statement from one who have the most special eyes in the manga that can analyse CE down to molecular level, the old "Gojo said that so it must be true... expect that one when he admits defeat" lol. Gojo vs Sukuna without 10S would be a different fight, Sukuna would focus on dominating Gojo in a DE fight because he knows that Gojo has no counter to his barrierless DE, if not for 10S Sukuna would never intentionally get hits by Gojo punches or stalling Gojo DE (Gojo mentions this btw). Sukuna would win every DE battle since barrierless DE is a big counter to Gojo DE (Even if Gojo manipulates his DE size Sukuna can still counter it with the same degree as demonstrated in their fight). That is why Gojo said "i would probably lose even without the 10S". Oh also did i mention Sukuna free health reset that he can pop at anytime in the fight? Also Sukuna and Gojo had the same prep time, the moment they met up for the first time that's when the prep time started, the whole Gojo plan was to feed Itadori 20 fingers and 1v1 Sukuna ffs. They both have the same prep time (I'd even say that Gojo had longer prep time since he knows about Sukuna before Sukuna knows about Gojo), it's just Sukuna research better and Gojo being too cocky showing Itadori how his DE works while fully damn aware that Sukuna is listening.
even if they revived sukuna gojo would still win easily gege also said that gojo would have beated 19 finger sukuna if he wasnt 3v1 so even if sukuna was revived or mahoraga was summoned (although i think it wouldnt be neccesary) gojo would still destroy everyone
@javi6394yt gege literaly stated that the cheater in the fight is gojo and also gojo himself stated that he will lose even if sukuna wasn't using the 10 shadow. Soo it isn't even a dabate. 19finger is stronger. Maoraga and agito were fooder that help sukuna to end it even quicker.
@@ryugakishutsu8535 saying "I'm not sure if i could've beating him even if he didn't have Megumis shadow" is quite different from "i would lose even without him using Megumis shadows".
Gojo would tear through Shibuya, one thing though, what about the barrier set up around the area Gojo was sealed that were meant to keep him inside Shibuya, really it depends on how the item securing the barrier saw set up (either inside or outside the barrier), if the item is inside the barrier, Gojo would 100% find it and get out, otherwise he would have to wait for someone outside the barrier to break it and free him.
The barrier in question might be bigger than I think it is but still its something to mention, granted it also might have been the barrier item that Yuji broke after encountering the grasshopper curse.
Even if he can’t find it he would eventually break it, just like he did in season 1 when a barrier was formed to specifically keep him out. They were just testing the strength of the veil to see how long it would keep gojo out for, and they figured out it was just 20 minutes, that’s why kenjaku said try and fight gojo for 20 minutes
I feeling like toji would kill himself after he finds out gojo did take care of megumi for him as a no bad feelings and i think gojo would find choso after his break down and he would talk with him about what would happen and i think uiui would have taught mei mei about the soul so maybe thry could have actualy kill him here like they did with the smallpox curse and one tap him with one of the crows
if gojo wasn’t sealed, they wouldn’t have made the veil on top of the giant skyscraper as they said “If Gojo was still active we’d be at home sleeping.”
No matter how many videos you put out, the truth remains that the only reason gojo lost was because gege wanted him to. Even he said it himself and gojo is Also a talented monster who can do anything hr tries. Gege said this himself also
I'm glad you mentioned the actual speed of the domain activations, because I've seen a lot of people tend to bring up Sukuna's open domain as a means to suggest that 15 fingered Sukuna could still beat Gojo. But Gojo is almost always going to expand his domain faster, and even just a fraction of a second's worth of unlimited void is enough to deal massive damage to even Sukuna. If that happens, even if Sukuna gets his domain off, he's going into a clash against a fresh Gojo with a weakened domain and brain damage, meaning he might not even be able to break Gojo's domain barrier with malevolent shrine before Gojo beats on him enough to break Sukuna's domain. At that point, even if we're generous to Sukuna and say he still manages to hold out enough that both their domains fail at the same time, Gojo will still end up burning out his brain to refresh his RCT, and even if Sukuna does it too, he's gonna be even later on his next domain expansion, likely causing his domain to fall immediately before they can even clash from the accrued brani damage. And at that point, Gojo will eat him alive. Sukuna doesn't have enough control over Yuji's body to fully incarnate for a full heal, and even if he can somehow, Yuji is going to be fighting tooth and nail from inside, weakening Sukuna's output even further. There is no world where this Sukuna survives this Gojo.
Uiui wouldn't know anything about soul switching at the time. Since the soul notes from yuki is just given to everyone. I dont think uiui understood the concept of the soul yet
No. From the way Ui Ui describes it seems he knew it from before. And he also says he can only swap a person’s soul twice in a month’s time duration. If he only learned it by reading Yuki’s book he wouldn’t know it.
9:50 She also specifies that kusakabe isn’t stronger than her or Nanami physically but rather his versatility and how he acts under pressure Mahito gets blown to bits Also. His “kindness” is what makes him the strongest
If Gojo wasn't sealed, Nanami, Nobara, Zenin leader would be alive. There would be no chance for Jogo to feed extra fingers to Yuji. And even if Sukuna revives, now there are many more characters available to jump on sukuna
I love how you take the way more “interesting” route of Gojo basically running the FULL shibuya gauntlet instead of just him stopping everything from happening
Respectfully, stay out of the kitchen and never come back. 19 finger sukuna with megumi’s body was even with gojo in their domain clash. Gojo would probably win the domain clash quicker than the slashes could get rid of his domain. Not to mention, Sukuna has no way to bypass gojo’s infinity with wcs (due to raga not being there), and would be overpowered by gojo.
@@millionhats5972was literally about to make this exact same point. gojo was even with a 20F of power sukuna. 15F sukuna most likely loses the clash entirely. and we've already seen what just one second of infinite void can do. imagine him being inside it for a couple of minutes. yeah he's beyond cooked. this is also me being generous and ignoring the fact that gojo would rip him apart before he could even get the chance to open his domain in the first place because of how massive the power gap is between them at this point.
@@millionhats5972i agree that gojo would win but there are a lot of unknowns that could make this fight go for sukuna's favor 1:How much stronger gojo got during the time skip he looks much more muscular 2:How strong is 15 finger sukuna since not everyone agrees that the fingers are equal 3:do fingers affect domain refinement 4: assuming the domains are the equal how fast would the 15 finger malevolent shrine destroy the barrier Gojo is still the MUCH safer option to go with
@@Ziendel gojo was always this muscular. check gege's drawings of gojo without his huge shirt 2. 15f sukuna's strength is irrelevant, hes still going to lose stats wise 3. who knows 4. id say it would take longer than canon cuz sukuna doesnt have the same ce outpout
There's something you missed about Sukuna's Domain clashing with Gojo's. The reason Gojo was able to clash domains during shinjuku was because of his time in the prison realm. The Spacial distortion let him learn how to expand the barrier of his domain to encompass Sukuna's 200m radius. If they clashed domains in shibuya, Gojo's domains would be broken from the outside like the first time in shinjuku. Even if Sukuna only has 15 fingers, he should have the advantage in a domain battle.
@@action1679 his domain shouldn't be less refined, but most likely his output, speed, and strength is lower. Even if Gojo was caught on burnout (assuming he didn't try to destroy his brain), he still fallen blossom emotion, simple domain and full output and RCT. Sukuna would need to face Gojo on hand to hand. We already saw him beating a stronger Sukuna on hand to hand. Suffice to say, gojo wins. Medium to low difficulty.
@@NefariousTomato When Gojo was damaged & low on energy, Sukuna said that Gojo wouldn’t be able to keep up in another domain clash. Using that statement, it’s safe to assume that Sukuna’s domain wouldn’t be able to keep up with Gojo’s if he’s at 15 fingers
Why does this exist? If the story could've gone on as gege wanted without gojo being sealed, gojo wouldn't have been sealed. The point of what-ifs isn't to visuallize questions no one has ever asked, not a single person ever doubted what would happen if gojo wasn't sealed, because gege straight up said gojo was too powerful, which is why he has 0 screentime, got handled at the start of the whole shibuya arc, and was killed. Gege doesn't like gojo solely because of how poweful he is, since gege said if gojo is there, he wins
@@lil_brook97 that this is the worst what-if i've ever seen. He's making a what-if on a scenario we already know the outcome of, that's not the point of a what-if
@@tntthekill He’s listing different ways Sukuna would try to do against Sukuna. Of course we already know the outcome, it’s just fun to look at it in a deeper thought. Also what-ifs scenarios can still be used even if we know the outcome. What-ifs are supposed to be fun things to look at, you’re just taking way more seriously than it should be
The only reason Gojo didn’t beat sukuna is because gege wrote it that way. The story would have been better if he defeated Sukuna, cementing his status as the strongest. And frankly, giving us a better ending.
No? It wouldn't be better. What a great ending to the story, teacher beats every single villain leaving no space to protagonist, gojo kaisen is a great manga fr.
The only reason gojo didn’t die quicker was cause sukuna was trying to adapt and protect mahoraga. His 200% purple didn’t do shit and there domains where equal with sukuna being better.
"it doesn't matter" still runs in my head since the ending. Meaning not saying Gojo not being sealed is what matters.... It's just all the what ifs and talking about Jjk with how it all amounted. Like a hollow feeling
oh yeah by the way, gojos domain expansion will LITERALLY speedblitz the malevolent shrine, hitting sukuna before he even finishes the barrier this is cuz gojo's 0.2 domain is actually him putting a technique at the same time as the barrier, not manifesting anything to begin with compared to sukuna's open barrier domain, which still makes a barrier, but its intangible, invisible and bigger, so gojo's domain wins unless sukuna adapts like mahoraga☸
The Shibuya incident banked on the fact that gojo will get sealed but if it failed it will stall enough for the curses to use domain after kenjaku stalls for long enough especially mahito unless gojo can regen his domain which kenjaku just had to win with his open domain and if needed use a maximum uzamaki so gojo would just die if it failed but thats probably enough time for the curses to wake up and cause as much chaos before gojo could fight them by that time they will go into hiding or go in to save kenjaku which he will then bank on using the granny to give kenjaku a body
That's if mahito dies which gojo needs to kill to win here especially if kenjaku knows the weakness of gojo's domain he can definitely win since gojo essentially wasted 1 domain expansion and needs to fight in a domain with some backup from mahito
I just thought of an idea that I think is kinda cool: Since Gojo is fighting Sukuna, I think he would start concentrating and improvising some things like he did in Shinjuku So, in an attempt to set up his Unlimited Void, Gojo activates Blue, but it's Minimum Output instead of Maximum Output This allows him to safely pull a lot of people out of range of his Domain, and therefore would allow him to immediately cast Unlimited Void to take out Sukuna.
I have a feeling that the moment Sukuna incarnates Gojo would sense him and immediately be concerned for Itadori and not only for him but for anyone else down and around the station, and knowing he wouldn’t be able to go all out in the station it would likely lead to him immediately teleporting to Sukunas presence and either instantly casting his domain to surprise and catch Sukuna off guard to then take a great advantage of the situation or teleport right behind Sukuna grabbing Itadori’s hoodie and immediately teleporting somewhere a good distance away followed up with Sukuna quickly trying to strike him and of course them fighting.
just wanted to ask, if gojo were not sealed, then wouldnt shibuya just not happen, (like the rest of the episodes) cuz the whole arc was due to the fact that go/jo was sealed right? Idk just asking
If Gojo isn’t sealed then shibuya basically doesn’t happen because Gojo isn’t sealed then yuji never fights choso and by proxy sukuna never awakens and basically the good guys win shibuya
I will say, I doubt Toji would do what he did when finding out Megumi for himself and seeing him if he ran into Gojo, he’d want to see him first before actually doing anything. But this is so far really good
Biggest issue witht the start is assuming gojo wouldn't immediately seek out his students, he also knows the threat of sukuna and that the fingers were missing, he'd assume their targeting itadori either for capture or right now and would likely swap his mission to saving yuji.
we're talking about sealed? if mechamaru did'nt die and managed to tell gojo of the conspiracy... we'd never even have gotten to shibuya. rotten gege akutami.
to be fair going for a 0.2 second domain can give Sukuna the advantage as gojo is holding back the curse energy to not overdo and sukuna is goind all out, said so im not sure if that realy change something as the speed difference still there but is worth saying
Imagine Gojo might've even killed Choso..........and we would've never got that Choso-Yuji Reveal 😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭. But i actually believe that Gojo would've spared him and just knocked him out, since he already realized WHAT Choso is and knowing the Story of the Death Paintings, it wouldn't be faur to kill Choso like that.
He 100% would’ve killed choso, no reason to spare him in his pov especially since he saw him massacre humans right infront of him. It takes like a second to deal with choso for him
Honestly, if the situation seemed to go off rails during the prison realm part (which was the most vulnerable since every cursed spirit was comatose and only Kenny and Gojo were up), I can easily see Kenjaku getting into a domain fight with Gojo. Kenny's mastery over barrier techniques should help him protect any cursed spirit Gojo brings inside his domain from UV's sure hit while simultaneously avoiding the appliance of Womb Profusion's sure hit over his allies. Eventually Kenny would find an opening for Jogo to escape, likely after winning the domain battle (Kenny won't manage this unscathed, but with the element of surprise I expect a proper performance). Without his CT, Gojo would be vulnerable not only to Kenny's Domain but also to Mahito and Choso, who would fight Gojo to stall for time. If Gojo doesn't fall there, which he most likely wont, Jogo is the back-up plan: he goes outside and starts searching for Itadori, who might be regrouped with Mei Mei at this point; we expect Kenny's open domain underground to create an earthquake which would alert the sorcerers that something's off. After searching for a while, Jogo likely kills Mei Mei and attempts the same with Itadori; however, Itadori might escape, and knowing his speed this would turn into a chase all over Shibuya. If Itadori doesn't run or doesn't find Megumi fast enough, Jogo "kills" Itadori and revives Sukuna, informing him of Kenny's pact and of Gojo being down there. Now, when Sukuna goes down, Kenny is close to defeat. I'd expect him to outlive both Mahito and Choso since he has back-up plans for everything, but still, Gojo is clearly winning. However, having been damaged by Choso's poison, Kenny's domain and Mahito's technique, Gojo would likely fall to a 16F Sukuna (unless he puts everything into a last-ditch escape). Thus, we're cooked.
I lowkey think the fight is actually closer than we think. Yes gojo was equal to a 20 finger sukuna but that was post prison relm and the time skip where he buffed up, could shrink his domain as well implying he was buffed up after being released. I think Gojo of shibuya could still probably win, but if sukunas summoned I see him just sending slashes everywhere at the start killing most civilians and damaging buildings etc. The other disaster curses could fight everyone else off outside then Kenjaku can still surprise gojo and distract him for a bit
9:45 Mei Mei wasn't saying Yuji was as strong as kusakabe at this point she was saying that Yuji is the only person get as far as he has without a cursed technique other than kusakabe, implying that they are at minimum equals but much more likely kusakabe is a decent amount stronger than him.
i think at 19:14 gojo will gamble a few humans because he'd rather have his limited barrier inside than have sukuna's barrierless domain slaughter everything within 200 meters
If Gojo hadn't been sealed in Shibuya it would be literally, Hydrogen bomb vs 4 coughing babys
THIS
@KWCHope nuts
babies*
Why tf is sukuna at 15 fingers a coughing baby, I think yall are forgetting the fact that Shibuya gojou doesn’t have small domain due to not being in prison realm, 😂 all Sukuna has to do is last for like a minute or two and gojous cooked on the first clash, unless gojou somehow cooks sukuna on the first clash, which I doubt a 5 finger difference would do anything, also Sukuna can increase his durability output but it would just require more ce, don’t think it’s a problem though with him having over yutas amount at 15 fingers.
@@lurisy9045bro sukuna is NOT winning because he has no way of bypassing infinity without domain also after domain clashes sukuna can’t use it no more leaving him with no offense and if gojo used purple he’d be cooked cuz mahoraga can’t tank it for him
I didn't realize it takes 21 minutes to say "He kinda jus slaps everyone, show over." Figured that was like a 5 second sentence lol
He did mention in the beginning that thats what would happen, but the video would be short
We knew that while reading, but hey it’s over and it’s just nice to revisit almost comforting
@@brandophiri3618 Someone’s speaking the Truth
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Why so serious? It’s just a goofy little what if, Batman..
Bro Gojo would dawg walk all of shibuya, destroying maharaga and sukuna in shibuya
Facts
sukuna and mahoraga wouldnt even come out wit Gojo around
Fingers don't equal refinement or output
16F meguna was able to intercept a prime gojo with killing intent 😂😂
Depends if they got into a domain clash tbh, if they did, Gojo wouldn't live to tell the story and the sorcerers would be cooked.
@THEGOAT_v2 that's highly debatable. Gojo in this scene can do a lot more in his domain. His abilties cannot be nullified so he can lapse blue, red and purple inside the domain . Which is important because he can easily destroy shrine from within the domain. He doesn't have to inflict damage strictly to sukuna to stop shrine. The domain clashes would go the same meaning gojo would possibly just lose the first one until he adapts and then Sukuna can't get touched at all or unlimited void lands which seals the victory for Gojo.
I know everyones saying, "Oh hed just win" but Jaded adressed that first. He went out of his way to create a more interesting scenario than just Gojo wins, and I think thats deserving of something
Good video
True. Although realistically Gojo is bodying a Shibuya yujikuna without 10s. Although it really crazy how much stronger Sukuna becomes when he gets 5 more fingers
@@lil_brook97 It's 1/3 more speed, AP and durability. He's basically twice as strong.
@@no3ironman11100 Wouldn’t it be 1/4? Because Yujikuna is 15/20
@@lil_brook97it’s an interesting scenario, but the girls and Jogo wouldn’t have had a chance to feed Yuji those fingers if Gojo didn’t get sealed. Sukuna wouldn’t even have come out. I do wonder how they would’ve gotten those fingers to Yuji though if he wasn’t passed out like that.
If he wasn't sealed, that could've been the final arc.
Indeed
Actually no what about him vs sukuna in megumis body that still has to happen and did I mention no maki change and also someone has to fight the main antagonist of the story line this is anime
@@KillUaYTNif were saying 15 finfer sukuna in megumis body then gojo still wins
Sukuna is weaker then his 20 finger self
And mahoraga would get slapped by gojo since gojo already has knowledge about it and + gojo defeated a buffed mahoraga summoned by a 20 finger sukuna
Basically 1 domain expansion would kill both sukuna and maho
@@zachsebastian4905 Don't ever talk about jjk again😭😭
@@akumpo2356If Gojo was going toe to toe with 20F Meguna, he 100% wins against 15F Meguna.
"You get a hollow purple"
"You get a hollow purple"
"AND you get a hollow purple"
"And you... you get a infinite void"
lol
6 eye'd hydrogen bomb vs 4 coughing baby cursed spirits, his ex boyfriends zombie body, choso (a part of me hopes he gets spared), and a 15 finger heian todler
Nah, he'd win
Edit because I forgot about Dagon, he'd be irrelevant with gojo too, but he is a disaster curse so he deserves to be added to the coughing babies
Peak
are you a thief?
It's actually 16 finger Sukuna, Gojo could have problems with Sukuna even if he's not at his full power, just because Gojo before Shinjuku doesn't have a counter against barrierless domains, and I don't think fingers affect the domain refinement so they would be equal and Sukuna would have an advantage cuz he's able to break Gojo's domain from the outside.
@InkRQ and than what? Gojo can survive inside the 20f domain without much trouble, only using simple domain and RCT, if you reduce the output on top of that by taking away the fingers, sukuna will be beyond cooked. If gojo can combat 20f sukuna effectively within the shrine's range, he can do the same here.
what if gojo chewed gum before shibuya
😪 me chewing my 9 packs of Gum
How it feels to chew 5 gum
@@Rayqetsu Gojo hits him with Unlimited-Void and kills him before he can transfigure his soul
@JadedSatoru Mahito said even if his entire body is destroyed he can still recover his soul
@@Rayqetsu But Kenjaku said that the Body is the soul, and the soul is the body.
*If Gojo is not sealed the story literally ends since he no diffs any threats heck almost everyone says if Gojo Satoru wasn't sealed him and him alone would've folded every single one of them*
fr
Kikat
Go/Jo
Half of a pizza
Folded😊
Basically shibuya incident would just be the shibuya inconvenience
😂😂😂😂
without the extra 5 fingers, gojo just wipes Sukuna in the first domain clash and clears
Not how it works
Plus shibuya Gojo is also weaker than shinjuku Gojo
@@sidecharacter3193 The gap between Shibya Gojo and Shinjuku Gojo is way smaller than Sukuna's. Sukuna was 5 fingers stronger and had 10s, Gojo had inverted domain shell. Gojo would body a 15 finger sukuna.
@@sidecharacter3193 No is not, literally the only difference between them is the knowledge
@@benjaminbebans4974 and that's a bit factor. If Shibuya gojo fought Shinjuku sukuna then he would lose 9/10 times and gets domain diffed
@@zaimbaig5832 20 finger Sukuna matched Gojo in domain refinement, which means 15 finger sukuna straight up has a weaker domain. Gojo tanks his domain regardless.
I can answer this quickly:
If Gojo is around, none of the villains can do anything. They had to seal him away, or the plan would NOT have worked. Even if 15 finger Sukuna came out, Gojo would stomp him at that level
there's one thing people don't get, Gojo can taught himself new things out of nowhere, like the domain shrink thing, he only needs to know that something is possible, and he does it, no questions needed, no need to see it either, he just needs to know if it is posisble, and he will get it somehow after some tries, and so, people who say "Gojo wouldn't learn this or that" the thing about Gojo is that he's a anomaly, he's absurdly strong and smart, he would learn other things in different timelines, and that also goes to Sukuna btw, people who say Sukuna slams, are dumb, but also not wrong, because Sukuna can learn just by seeing something once, Gojo can learn by knowing it is possible, they are monsters
Gojo dies immediately after the second domain clash with sukuna. Gojo only has a chance with 10 finger sukuna
@@Mosaic-xeroxNo tf he doesn’t, that’s a wild take. Not having basketball domain doesn’t mean that he loses. It just means that it’s harder. Think about it, by reversing his domain barrier conditions he was able to let it withstand malevolent lent shrine. Sukuna countered by restricting malevolent shrine to only the outside of Gojos domain, increasing the output. 20 finger sukuna using a FP malevolent shrine matched Gojos inverted domain. Only when Sukuna used a BV did he overpower it. Nerfing Sukuna by 5 fingers would make it so that Sukuna wouldn’t be able to overpower Gojos inverted domain even if he did buff it, because the domains broke literal hundredths of seconds apart. The margin of error in their fight was so low, that a 5 finger nerf on Sukuna would seal his fate. The fight wouldn’t even get to the point that Gojo would have to use a basketball domain. It’s not close. Plus without mahoraga Sukuna wouldn’t be able to escape IV.
I don't think people understand and broken of a character gojo is, the guy is super smart and super talented. Even gege said it that gojo has no talent since he can practically do anything he tries. I have sat and thought about it and realised how much of gojos abilities and potential were wasted, like there is so much he could have done with limitless and infinity. And the world cleave stuff makes no sense to me. WHAT DO YOU THINK????
@@Dunny420you fell for the bait bro
@@action1679 yea sure,a bait they say!
Sakuna does a time limit before Itadori regains control though, so he is on the clock :)
True
Isn't it a minute under certain conditions? Can't remember
@@BeyondAIR15 Thats enchain, he cant do anything as he promised he wouldnt hurt anybody
Then rhe fight would be meaningless in that case…,
Bro answered a question that literally everyone knew the answer for already.
I don't think 15F Sukuna vs Gojo is as close as you make it out to be. Sukuna is on a pretty tight time limit and he is unable to use Malevolent Shrine, since using it would kill everyone in a 200 meter radius and force Gojo to lay out his own domain, the result of which would be Sukuna either losing the clash or being beat up so badly his domain collapses.
Added to that, we know Sukuna is not so powerful that he can just one shot Mahoraga, the fight between those two had Sukuna at a clear advantage for the duration but it went on for a while. Sukuna's summons grow in strength compared to Megumi's, as seen with Nue, and even with that strength increase (presumably) applying to Mahoraga, Gojo still states he should be able to one tap it in his fight in Shinjuku. So the gap in strength is purpotedly _massive_ between Gojo and something strong enough to put up a fight against Sukuna.
Yeah idk why he pretends Gojo wouldn’t instantly body him
I don’t think Mahoraga grows relative to the user. Because say, if Mahoraga was 1.5x the strength of his summoner, then the summoner would be fucked. But 15F Sukuna mid-high diffed Megumi‘s Mahoraga and he probably had to defeat him again at 20 Fingers to take him for himself off screen. If Mahoraga actually was the strength of 30 Fingered Sukuna, yeah, Sukuna wouldn’t have even needed to fight Gojo at that point.
@@gotzvonunentberlichingen1452 that feels like crazy headcannon ngl 😂 if the manga says the shadows power changes by user, should that not apply to all unless stated otherwise?
@Javgod9 it's because Gojo doesn't want to explode Shibuya and kill hundreds or thousands or civilians in the process have u even watched the video?
@ , I’m not sure where that‘s supposed to be stated. And think about it for more than one second. Every Shadows user before Sukuna was unable to beat Mahoraga. So that means that Mahoraga is always materialised a tad bit more powerful than the summoner. Then Sukuna came and was actually able to beat his Mahoraga. So either, everyone but Sukuna gets a Mahoraga stronger than themselves or Mahoraga is consistently created at a certain power level, that happens to be higher than every ten shadows user in history but weaker than 15 F Sukuna. And why would Megumi use Mahoraga as a trumpcard if Mahoraga was weaker than him?
First what if and honestly one of my favourite jjk what ifs I've seen yet lol. It went over everything, What would probably happen. What would be most fun. And then so on and so forth, it covered everything
Very well made, definitely a well earned like and subscribe
17 seconds ago is kinda diabolical
Kinda??
Lmao they should’ve gave GOJO way more fights😂😂
Gojo just No diffs everyone in verse.
So apart from 20f Sukuna, everyone is cooked.
I mean if they just gave him a gauntlet sequence like Sukuna it would be warranted
correction at the top, 20f Sukuna and Mahoraga*
@@shazadanser2507 Nah, he would have one shotted Mahoraga with HP if Sukuna wasn't there
Sukuna is missing a quarter of his power, and lacks the ten shadows.
All Gojo lacks is the basket domain trick, which he can substitute for with inverting his barriers exterior and interior, or he'd just withstand and out heal malevolent shrine.
OR. just fly above sukuna DE and spam purple.
GG
It's worth noting that Sukuna may not have Domain Amplification. We don't know when it came to be, but everyone other than Sukuna and Higuruma that we've seen use the move learned it from Kenjaku. Unless Sukuna figured it out on his own or Kenjaku discovered it back in the Heian Era, he might not even have it to use against Satoru.
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I think for argument sake we can just give domain amplification to sukuna because he is a quick learner and it's pretty easy to do and unlike everyone in the series, he can do while his domain is up. But if he doesn't then yeah sukuna is cooked
@@ThePsycoNinja
Totally fair, I'm not even trying to say it's likely that he doesn't, it was just a consideration. But yeah, he could definitely figure it out on the fly. It is Sukuna, after all.
We saw Kusakabe knew about DA when Sukuna used that on Gojo so there must be other sorcerers who would have used that in the past
@brokenamvs9707
Well tbh, Gojo or Choso could have mentioned it during the timeskip. It was used against Gojo and Choso was part of the plan where it was used, so they could easily tell everyone about it.
Even then, Sukuna's been sealed for centuries, so that's plenty of time for it to get out without him learning of it.
He would literally run through the entire culling games single handedly. Without gojo being sealed the kids couldn't be able to grow in strength.
Gojo had Sukuna near death when he had Megumi's body and was running a 3 v 1 against him, and would've won without the world cutting slash. So a 15 finger Sukuna without Megumi's body, not in Heien era form, without Mahoraga or Agito is getting DOG WALKED by Gojo. Bad.
Yeah the fact that gojo was able to go toe to toe with arguably sukunas strongest form, meguna, means that he should have no issues clearing this version of him
I love that Gojo fans are always conveniently leaving out the "i would probably lose even without 10S" and "I gave it all but it's still not enough" whenever this kind of topic is brought up lmao.
Just because Gojo "might" lose doesn't mean he can't win. This is old debate bro, Sukuna (20F) and Gojo are blatantly 50/50 and it could go either way in terms of power (be it Sukuna+WorldCuttingSlash+noTS rematch/Heien-era Sukuna/Meguna). It was literally the resource mismatch (Sukuna knowing more about Gojo than Gojo knowing about Sukuna) that got Sukuna the win and Mahoraga, since Gojo was just freestyling while Sukuna had that main strat from the very beginning.
@spacedinosaur9459 Ah yes, let's ignore the statement from one who have the most special eyes in the manga that can analyse CE down to molecular level, the old "Gojo said that so it must be true... expect that one when he admits defeat" lol.
Gojo vs Sukuna without 10S would be a different fight, Sukuna would focus on dominating Gojo in a DE fight because he knows that Gojo has no counter to his barrierless DE, if not for 10S Sukuna would never intentionally get hits by Gojo punches or stalling Gojo DE (Gojo mentions this btw). Sukuna would win every DE battle since barrierless DE is a big counter to Gojo DE (Even if Gojo manipulates his DE size Sukuna can still counter it with the same degree as demonstrated in their fight). That is why Gojo said "i would probably lose even without the 10S". Oh also did i mention Sukuna free health reset that he can pop at anytime in the fight?
Also Sukuna and Gojo had the same prep time, the moment they met up for the first time that's when the prep time started, the whole Gojo plan was to feed Itadori 20 fingers and 1v1 Sukuna ffs. They both have the same prep time (I'd even say that Gojo had longer prep time since he knows about Sukuna before Sukuna knows about Gojo), it's just Sukuna research better and Gojo being too cocky showing Itadori how his DE works while fully damn aware that Sukuna is listening.
@@CurseOxuin let’s remember Gojo’s words are not always to be taken as factual he’s been seen blatantly lying many times (ex. “Na I’d win”)
This was PEAK. I want a part two!!! Your content looks epic.
14:17 this word choice is crazy
You made me giggle
@@KWCHopecan you make me jiggle
9:27 ur wrong, nobara can attack the soul seen in their fight with Mahito and in the shin juju showdown
yeah i noticed that too
@@Upermario360 True, UiUi isn’t the only person 👆
gege said that if gojo wasnt sealed he would have soloed every curse
even if they revived sukuna gojo would still win easily gege also said that gojo would have beated 19 finger sukuna if he wasnt 3v1 so even if sukuna was revived or mahoraga was summoned (although i think it wouldnt be neccesary) gojo would still destroy everyone
@@javi6394ytwhen did he say that, can you give me the link or st or which chapter he said it plz
@@javi6394yt you really making your own world dawg
@javi6394yt gege literaly stated that the cheater in the fight is gojo and also gojo himself stated that he will lose even if sukuna wasn't using the 10 shadow. Soo it isn't even a dabate. 19finger is stronger. Maoraga and agito were fooder that help sukuna to end it even quicker.
@@ryugakishutsu8535 saying "I'm not sure if i could've beating him even if he didn't have Megumis shadow" is quite different from "i would lose even without him using Megumis shadows".
Gojo would tear through Shibuya, one thing though, what about the barrier set up around the area Gojo was sealed that were meant to keep him inside Shibuya, really it depends on how the item securing the barrier saw set up (either inside or outside the barrier), if the item is inside the barrier, Gojo would 100% find it and get out, otherwise he would have to wait for someone outside the barrier to break it and free him.
The barrier in question might be bigger than I think it is but still its something to mention, granted it also might have been the barrier item that Yuji broke after encountering the grasshopper curse.
Even if he can’t find it he would eventually break it, just like he did in season 1 when a barrier was formed to specifically keep him out. They were just testing the strength of the veil to see how long it would keep gojo out for, and they figured out it was just 20 minutes, that’s why kenjaku said try and fight gojo for 20 minutes
@@farsous10 Really? he broke it through sheer force then!? I didn't notice that. My B
To summarize: If Gojo wasn't sealed in Shibuya, there would be no Shibuya
Love the video, maybe you could do a video on those who taught Sukuna about love as I feel like that’s a topic no one really touches on all that much
I think you're lowballing Gojo's strength and psychosis. Sukuna is definitely losing 15 fingers and going back to sleep.
I loved this video. It sucks that the jjk fans dont appreciate this what if video.
I feeling like toji would kill himself after he finds out gojo did take care of megumi for him as a no bad feelings and i think gojo would find choso after his break down and he would talk with him about what would happen and i think uiui would have taught mei mei about the soul so maybe thry could have actualy kill him here like they did with the smallpox curse and one tap him with one of the crows
if gojo wasn’t sealed, they wouldn’t have made the veil on top of the giant skyscraper as they said “If Gojo was still active we’d be at home sleeping.”
What if Jaded went outside and touched grass
@@wokeuplikedis1500 ight bro
"Gojo is fine with people who are not killed by Satoru Gojo, but not with "People killed with Satoru Gojo!"
-Jogo probably.
No matter how many videos you put out, the truth remains that the only reason gojo lost was because gege wanted him to. Even he said it himself and gojo is Also a talented monster who can do anything hr tries. Gege said this himself also
do you have to be reminded that gojo is just a drawing and u cant ride him
@@ImDespaa 😂😂😂
Bruh is trying to do tricks on it.
@@Wsp8688 fr
I'm glad you mentioned the actual speed of the domain activations, because I've seen a lot of people tend to bring up Sukuna's open domain as a means to suggest that 15 fingered Sukuna could still beat Gojo. But Gojo is almost always going to expand his domain faster, and even just a fraction of a second's worth of unlimited void is enough to deal massive damage to even Sukuna. If that happens, even if Sukuna gets his domain off, he's going into a clash against a fresh Gojo with a weakened domain and brain damage, meaning he might not even be able to break Gojo's domain barrier with malevolent shrine before Gojo beats on him enough to break Sukuna's domain. At that point, even if we're generous to Sukuna and say he still manages to hold out enough that both their domains fail at the same time, Gojo will still end up burning out his brain to refresh his RCT, and even if Sukuna does it too, he's gonna be even later on his next domain expansion, likely causing his domain to fall immediately before they can even clash from the accrued brani damage.
And at that point, Gojo will eat him alive. Sukuna doesn't have enough control over Yuji's body to fully incarnate for a full heal, and even if he can somehow, Yuji is going to be fighting tooth and nail from inside, weakening Sukuna's output even further.
There is no world where this Sukuna survives this Gojo.
Uiui wouldn't know anything about soul switching at the time. Since the soul notes from yuki is just given to everyone. I dont think uiui understood the concept of the soul yet
No. From the way Ui Ui describes it seems he knew it from before. And he also says he can only swap a person’s soul twice in a month’s time duration. If he only learned it by reading Yuki’s book he wouldn’t know it.
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She also specifies that kusakabe isn’t stronger than her or Nanami physically but rather his versatility and how he acts under pressure
Mahito gets blown to bits
Also. His “kindness” is what makes him the strongest
If Gojo wasn't sealed, Nanami, Nobara, Zenin leader would be alive.
There would be no chance for Jogo to feed extra fingers to Yuji. And even if Sukuna revives, now there are many more characters available to jump on sukuna
“Sukuna’s incarnation happens within the station” bro bars
0:21 whats that song called ?
Your battle is my battle
I love how you take the way more “interesting” route of Gojo basically running the FULL shibuya gauntlet instead of just him stopping everything from happening
I appreciate this
Sukuna slams though, since domain goes brrr and
Gojo can’t shrink his thingy
15 finger Sukuna???...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Respectfully, stay out of the kitchen and never come back. 19 finger sukuna with megumi’s body was even with gojo in their domain clash. Gojo would probably win the domain clash quicker than the slashes could get rid of his domain. Not to mention, Sukuna has no way to bypass gojo’s infinity with wcs (due to raga not being there), and would be overpowered by gojo.
@@millionhats5972was literally about to make this exact same point. gojo was even with a 20F of power sukuna. 15F sukuna most likely loses the clash entirely. and we've already seen what just one second of infinite void can do. imagine him being inside it for a couple of minutes. yeah he's beyond cooked. this is also me being generous and ignoring the fact that gojo would rip him apart before he could even get the chance to open his domain in the first place because of how massive the power gap is between them at this point.
@@millionhats5972i agree that gojo would win but there are a lot of unknowns that could make this fight go for sukuna's favor
1:How much stronger gojo got during the time skip he looks much more muscular
2:How strong is 15 finger sukuna since not everyone agrees that the fingers are equal
3:do fingers affect domain refinement
4: assuming the domains are the equal how fast would the 15 finger malevolent shrine destroy the barrier
Gojo is still the MUCH safer option to go with
@@Ziendel gojo was always this muscular. check gege's drawings of gojo without his huge shirt
2. 15f sukuna's strength is irrelevant, hes still going to lose stats wise
3. who knows
4. id say it would take longer than canon cuz sukuna doesnt have the same ce outpout
I love how your videos are
There's something you missed about Sukuna's Domain clashing with Gojo's. The reason Gojo was able to clash domains during shinjuku was because of his time in the prison realm. The Spacial distortion let him learn how to expand the barrier of his domain to encompass Sukuna's 200m radius.
If they clashed domains in shibuya, Gojo's domains would be broken from the outside like the first time in shinjuku. Even if Sukuna only has 15 fingers, he should have the advantage in a domain battle.
Agree, but sukuna's domain might be less refined than gojo's at 15 fingers so the main wincon is the barrierless domain
@@celinatay3348His domain would be less refined at 15 fingers and since it is, a clash wouldn’t even happen. Unlimited Void would automatically win.
Yeah, but he's also stronger than Sukuna. He'd probably deal enough damage for MS to collapse.
@@action1679
his domain shouldn't be less refined, but most likely his output, speed, and strength is lower. Even if Gojo was caught on burnout (assuming he didn't try to destroy his brain), he still fallen blossom emotion, simple domain and full output and RCT. Sukuna would need to face Gojo on hand to hand. We already saw him beating a stronger Sukuna on hand to hand. Suffice to say, gojo wins. Medium to low difficulty.
@@NefariousTomato When Gojo was damaged & low on energy, Sukuna said that Gojo wouldn’t be able to keep up in another domain clash. Using that statement, it’s safe to assume that Sukuna’s domain wouldn’t be able to keep up with Gojo’s if he’s at 15 fingers
“Take this red, wow you’re powerful you can take the purple, wow now thats’s power, INFINITE VOID”
Why does this exist? If the story could've gone on as gege wanted without gojo being sealed, gojo wouldn't have been sealed. The point of what-ifs isn't to visuallize questions no one has ever asked, not a single person ever doubted what would happen if gojo wasn't sealed, because gege straight up said gojo was too powerful, which is why he has 0 screentime, got handled at the start of the whole shibuya arc, and was killed. Gege doesn't like gojo solely because of how poweful he is, since gege said if gojo is there, he wins
A term hypothetical exists, look it up or simply dont watch the video
Because it’s fun. What’s wrong with ppl having what-ifs
@@lil_brook97 that this is the worst what-if i've ever seen. He's making a what-if on a scenario we already know the outcome of, that's not the point of a what-if
@@tntthekill He’s listing different ways Sukuna would try to do against Sukuna. Of course we already know the outcome, it’s just fun to look at it in a deeper thought. Also what-ifs scenarios can still be used even if we know the outcome. What-ifs are supposed to be fun things to look at, you’re just taking way more seriously than it should be
Imagine the girls feeding Yuji 1 finger and a second later gojo is there saying ,,knock it off"
The only reason Gojo didn’t beat sukuna is because gege wrote it that way. The story would have been better if he defeated Sukuna, cementing his status as the strongest. And frankly, giving us a better ending.
No it wouldn't have been better, What is the point of yuji being the protagonist if gojo beats sukuna
No? It wouldn't be better.
What a great ending to the story, teacher beats every single villain leaving no space to protagonist, gojo kaisen is a great manga fr.
The only reason gojo didn’t die quicker was cause sukuna was trying to adapt and protect mahoraga. His 200% purple didn’t do shit and there domains where equal with sukuna being better.
@@Mosaic-xerox please don't start a Gojo vs Sukuna debate those last for months
@It’s all fictional. Gege could have written differently.
If gojo didn't get sealed Everyone would be in the domain of Back Shots.
15F Yujikuna slams gojo because fingers don't equal refinement at all
I'm sorry to let you know that sukuna is just a drawing, and you can't kiss him
The real reason why Sukuna slams Gojo was because of Mahoraga. Sukuna inside Itadori's body could not defeat Gojo
Wouldn't any less fingers mean sukuna would be slower?
@@ghosttengu7825 yes and a lot fo other things because sukuna cannot fully dominate yuji's soul meaning he can't use 100% of his cursed energy
@@ghosttengu7825but again this is Yuji's body so he would have better stats that 16F Meguna and he still may able to go back in his true form
That’s crazy , I’m apart of the 1 percent , keep uploading bro, it’ll go up trust
"it doesn't matter" still runs in my head since the ending. Meaning not saying Gojo not being sealed is what matters.... It's just all the what ifs and talking about Jjk with how it all amounted. Like a hollow feeling
Please make that part 2, we need it
It’s pretty much be a battle between Gojo, sukuna, toji, & Raga so everyone in the vicinity would be in danger 😂
If gojo wasn't sealed in shibuya, shibuya just doesn't happen.
Btw yuji also doesn’t have mechamaru to help him the choso fight so that would end a lot quicker
This Thougnail Goes Hard🔥🔥🔥
I like how clowns doesn't even know that version of gojo doesn't know about how to adjust his domian barriers 😭😭😹😹😹
17:55 That's actually not true since domain amplification was created by kenjaku that's why sukuna only ever uses it after the prep time in shinjuku
yuji would remember his grandpas final words and the people hes trying to save down there, would get very motivated
oh yeah by the way, gojos domain expansion will LITERALLY speedblitz the malevolent shrine, hitting sukuna before he even finishes the barrier
this is cuz gojo's 0.2 domain is actually him putting a technique at the same time as the barrier, not manifesting anything to begin with
compared to sukuna's open barrier domain, which still makes a barrier, but its intangible, invisible and bigger, so gojo's domain wins unless sukuna adapts like mahoraga☸
If Gojo was never sealed during the Shibuya incident, the Shibuya incident would be the Shibuya massacre
The Shibuya incident banked on the fact that gojo will get sealed but if it failed it will stall enough for the curses to use domain after kenjaku stalls for long enough especially mahito unless gojo can regen his domain which kenjaku just had to win with his open domain and if needed use a maximum uzamaki so gojo would just die if it failed but thats probably enough time for the curses to wake up and cause as much chaos before gojo could fight them by that time they will go into hiding or go in to save kenjaku which he will then bank on using the granny to give kenjaku a body
That's if mahito dies which gojo needs to kill to win here especially if kenjaku knows the weakness of gojo's domain he can definitely win since gojo essentially wasted 1 domain expansion and needs to fight in a domain with some backup from mahito
I just thought of an idea that I think is kinda cool:
Since Gojo is fighting Sukuna, I think he would start concentrating and improvising some things like he did in Shinjuku
So, in an attempt to set up his Unlimited Void, Gojo activates Blue, but it's Minimum Output instead of Maximum Output
This allows him to safely pull a lot of people out of range of his Domain, and therefore would allow him to immediately cast Unlimited Void to take out Sukuna.
I have a feeling that the moment Sukuna incarnates Gojo would sense him and immediately be concerned for Itadori and not only for him but for anyone else down and around the station, and knowing he wouldn’t be able to go all out in the station it would likely lead to him immediately teleporting to Sukunas presence and either instantly casting his domain to surprise and catch Sukuna off guard to then take a great advantage of the situation or teleport right behind Sukuna grabbing Itadori’s hoodie and immediately teleporting somewhere a good distance away followed up with Sukuna quickly trying to strike him and of course them fighting.
just wanted to ask, if gojo were not sealed, then wouldnt shibuya just not happen, (like the rest of the episodes) cuz the whole arc was due to the fact that go/jo was sealed right? Idk just asking
If Gojo isn’t sealed then shibuya basically doesn’t happen because Gojo isn’t sealed then yuji never fights choso and by proxy sukuna never awakens and basically the good guys win shibuya
@Naruto_Speedrun noted thnx
All I know is that... Gojo vs Mahoraga vs Sukuna would have been the hardest fight ever for all of us to witness.
I will say, I doubt Toji would do what he did when finding out Megumi for himself and seeing him if he ran into Gojo, he’d want to see him first before actually doing anything. But this is so far really good
Yessssir I needed this vid
Thank you man
Biggest issue witht the start is assuming gojo wouldn't immediately seek out his students, he also knows the threat of sukuna and that the fingers were missing, he'd assume their targeting itadori either for capture or right now and would likely swap his mission to saving yuji.
So basically if gojo wasn't sealed, it just
END there?
Don’t think he would kill toji though , 😂I honestly feel Toji would just be chilling and maybe take out the zenin family
I think the most possible way Gojo would've been safe would have been if here remembered that HE KILLED GETO
fire concept tbh
we're talking about sealed? if mechamaru did'nt die and managed to tell gojo of the conspiracy... we'd never even have gotten to shibuya. rotten gege akutami.
Civilians this,... civilians that....i heard that so much I started agreeing with Geto. 😂
to be fair going for a 0.2 second domain can give Sukuna the advantage as gojo is holding back the curse energy to not overdo and sukuna is goind all out, said so im not sure if that realy change something as the speed difference still there but is worth saying
I think Gojo’s prison realm training is overlooked here when it comes to domain clashes, but yeah probably how it goes for the most part
If he was never sealed, Sukuna never gets Megumi’s body
Nice video❤
I enjoyed it possibly as much as the story we sorta got
if gojo wasnt seald, nothing would have happaned as the entire plan was dependant on gojo getting sealed
Bro, I haven’t even watched aThe video yet but everyone is about to crash out gojo crush out💀💀💀💀💀💀
🥶 ahh thumbnail (new bg for pc)
its great . i would love to hear more
Imagine Gojo might've even killed Choso..........and we would've never got that Choso-Yuji Reveal 😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭. But i actually believe that Gojo would've spared him and just knocked him out, since he already realized WHAT Choso is and knowing the Story of the Death Paintings, it wouldn't be faur to kill Choso like that.
He 100% would’ve killed choso, no reason to spare him in his pov especially since he saw him massacre humans right infront of him. It takes like a second to deal with choso for him
@farsous10 😑
Honestly, if the situation seemed to go off rails during the prison realm part (which was the most vulnerable since every cursed spirit was comatose and only Kenny and Gojo were up), I can easily see Kenjaku getting into a domain fight with Gojo.
Kenny's mastery over barrier techniques should help him protect any cursed spirit Gojo brings inside his domain from UV's sure hit while simultaneously avoiding the appliance of Womb Profusion's sure hit over his allies.
Eventually Kenny would find an opening for Jogo to escape, likely after winning the domain battle (Kenny won't manage this unscathed, but with the element of surprise I expect a proper performance). Without his CT, Gojo would be vulnerable not only to Kenny's Domain but also to Mahito and Choso, who would fight Gojo to stall for time.
If Gojo doesn't fall there, which he most likely wont, Jogo is the back-up plan: he goes outside and starts searching for Itadori, who might be regrouped with Mei Mei at this point; we expect Kenny's open domain underground to create an earthquake which would alert the sorcerers that something's off. After searching for a while, Jogo likely kills Mei Mei and attempts the same with Itadori; however, Itadori might escape, and knowing his speed this would turn into a chase all over Shibuya. If Itadori doesn't run or doesn't find Megumi fast enough, Jogo "kills" Itadori and revives Sukuna, informing him of Kenny's pact and of Gojo being down there.
Now, when Sukuna goes down, Kenny is close to defeat. I'd expect him to outlive both Mahito and Choso since he has back-up plans for everything, but still, Gojo is clearly winning. However, having been damaged by Choso's poison, Kenny's domain and Mahito's technique, Gojo would likely fall to a 16F Sukuna (unless he puts everything into a last-ditch escape). Thus, we're cooked.
3:35
That’s cuz Hanami teleports through plants
Hanamis presence is also closer to a regular spirit rather than a curse spirit
That thumbnail tho😮💨
I lowkey think the fight is actually closer than we think. Yes gojo was equal to a 20 finger sukuna but that was post prison relm and the time skip where he buffed up, could shrink his domain as well implying he was buffed up after being released. I think Gojo of shibuya could still probably win, but if sukunas summoned I see him just sending slashes everywhere at the start killing most civilians and damaging buildings etc. The other disaster curses could fight everyone else off outside then Kenjaku can still surprise gojo and distract him for a bit
The shibuya arc would have been much shorter if gojo wasn’t sealed.
my glorious goatjo
Did you watch the show bro was clowning on em not pushed into a wall lol
9:45 Mei Mei wasn't saying Yuji was as strong as kusakabe at this point she was saying that Yuji is the only person get as far as he has without a cursed technique other than kusakabe, implying that they are at minimum equals but much more likely kusakabe is a decent amount stronger than him.
i think at 19:14 gojo will gamble a few humans because he'd rather have his limited barrier inside than have sukuna's barrierless domain slaughter everything within 200 meters
loved this
TLDR: the story would simply end if the sealing failed.