Testing the PINECIL and a new FUSE kit
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2024
- Today I'm gonna take a look at the Pinecil and see if it can get the job done! Will USB power be enough to make the solder flow?
Space is tight in the RV, so let's get to welding!
Gear used in the video:
👉 Pinecil Iron: geni.us/eGZf3
👉 Fuse Kit: geni.us/jkM4
👉 Hakko FX-888D Soldering Iron: geni.us/AMZeG
👉 Hakko FH-300 Soldering Iron Stand with 599B : geni.us/xmOaz
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All, another update. I am completely sold out (unless you want an empty 3D printed enclosure)! PCBs just shipped for the next batch of fuse blocks, so 1-2 weeks and I'll be able to sell again? Thank you all!! 73,
Thanks for the update. We'll be watching!
The Pinecils are great! One is in my POTA kit for some ad-hoc repairs.
Sweet!
I love my Pinecil. Works great. I got a couple extra tips for it and change them as appropriate. It is good stuff. Make sure to update the firmware on it.
Can you provide link to firmware?
ralim.github.io/IronOS/
love my pinecil i got the little holder for it and a wired up a dc cord and keep it with my spare stuff for radio repairs in the field
I think that is the best part of this - field repairs and pack-ability!
Nice little Fuse Block and soldering iron! 73!
I dig 'em! Thanks for watching!
@K3JRZOnTheAir Thank you! 73,
That was fun, thank you! I probably should look into a powerpole fuse block.
You're welcome
I've noticed that you weren't running on 20V PD, with 20V it heats up in ~9s. Also if you hold the + button while soldering, you boost the temperature and power draw and can dump a lot of heat in those pads.
Sweet, thanks!
Nothing smells better in the morning than a Cup of coffee and some lead filled Solder, throw in the u.s.b. "ultimate survival buddy", great work man! Tnx.
I like the smell of soldering... probably less deadly than breathing in an office building!
Hi.
Very cool! I also liked the trick with the fuses. Thanks for the soldering trick. Be safe
David Wilson from VK land(Nowra)
Your bet. You too!
Wow. looks like it works pretty good!
It's my new jam!
If you need to re-home the Hako to make room you can send it to North Alabama. I'll even bring it by Hamfest so you can visit it if you miss it. That is a nice small iron.
Its already found a new home ;-). Nothing gathers dust around me!
Thanks Steve for the video! I love me some Pinecil too. USB-C PD will of course give you more wattage to the tip of the iron, but in case, I also made myself a powerpole cable that works with the barrel plug on the back of the Pinecil. And, to protect that, guess what you could use! Yup, my fuse blocks! :) 73,
It all circles back!
nice! I have one similar, TS100, and a power pole adapter I made for it. I find myself using the ts100 quite a bit over dragging out the whole solder station box.
If I had a permanent work surface I'd probably have kept he Hakko in play and not even thought about it - but having to clean up everytime and having limited space says to de-bulk... the pinecil is super easy and cheap enough that I could drop it in a go box! Also, running on 12v is smart for hams in general!
That's the exact same solder I've been using for years now, and I absolutely love it. The eutectic mix ratio was a game changer for me. It's fantastic because of its practically non-existent transition window between the melting and freezing point.
My elmer recommended it to me and it just flows well. Love it.
Sweet! Nice and compact. Should be great for going portable in case of emergencies.
Its a Jawn!
@@temporarilyoffline You are correct.
I love my pinecil it's so convenient to carry around in a kit, and not take up much space. I don't solder a whole lot, but it's certain convenient when I do solder.
Its a great place to start... and maybe finish as well.
Thanks for the video TO. Cool Pinecil. Thanks for sharing the fuse box link. I broke mine I built and was looking on how to get another. I appreciate it.
You're welcome! Hope you got a new one! How did yours break?
@@temporarilyoffline Pulled one for the fuses and it pulled the connectors off the board. It was my fault nothing wrong with the design.
@@timw8ngt ok, sounds like it's fixable. If you're coming to Dayton, bring it and we'll see what we can do.
@@temporarilyoffline thanks.
Yup totally agree I use my pinecil iron more than my station now!
Its my new Jam!
Great video TO, I've been using the Pinecil as my primary soldering station for a few months and have been rather happy with it. The ability for it to serve as both my at home soldering station and be easily tucked away in a portable repair kit has been fantastic.
Agreed! Its a better "swiss army knife"
That would have been a good stocking stuffer for Christmas.
Sure would!
The first test I give any soldering tool is to solder a ground wire to the back of a potentiometer. If it does that easily it can handle most jobs you will run across.
Very smart!
I have seen that soldering iron. thank you for the review. The battery one I have now runs on DeWalt 20V or 60V tool battery works super . same size as the Hako one. for most small electronic work the solder you have is great. what I have used for over 20 years .also the 60/40 solder. I have many outher types for soldering different things and metals. different flux as well. nice fuse kit. wish it had LED for blown fuse. my power pole block has them. easy to add, that trace that blew is a safety thing, and that worked. someone will bypass fuse with a piece of wire. does that mean the 10 amp fuse up side down is 01 amps? LOL 73's
LED would be nice, but they require circuitry and power... everything has a trade-off. I long for the abiliity to really "unplug" everything, but it seems like there is always phantom power running around these days.
I just got the same iron and I like it as well. I just wish it didn’t have a 5525 barrel jack but a slightly smaller one (maybe 5521?) so I could use the Powerpole to barrel jack cables I already have for my KX2.
I feel like we already talked about this.
@@temporarilyoffline Lol, seems like my comment got submitted twice. It’s exactly the same, sorry about that 😄
I only started soldering about 5 years ago and decided to just go lead free. Not having soldered with lead I haven't missed it at all.
I started with lead-free and had all kinds of problems. You're a better man than I!
I think the 3s, 4S ETC are for battery banks with 18650;s as they can go up to 5S in building. So using a 4S battery may be for the PCB on the battery bank and not draw too much for overload.
Thanks!
These are great soldering irons, and you can even "hack" the firmware if you want... I only use mine on occasion, but the RV is a good place for it...!
Wondering what I would hack it to do... but glad it can be done. Futureproofing!
I've been using the TS-100 iron for a couple of years, they look very closely related. I do recommend getting a wider tip: I have 3 sizes.
I'm pretty happy with it. Especially how compact it is.
@@temporarilyoffline Yes, they are awesome. Mine came with a sharp point tip, I ended up getting one that is about 2mm wide (a standard tip) and a wide tip. With the 3 tips I feel more capable.
Soldering iron with an OS, that hysterical. I want one.
Gotta have it!
I have a similar iron. One of the best power supplies to use is a power brick from a laptop. Ymmv, but these things are great. Just make sure you always put the locking collar over the tip. So many people returned these things because they didn't lock the tip in.
I actually made the whole kit without the collar locked. I completely agree with you, but I was shocked at the end when I caught that!
@@temporarilyoffline I wish they put the collar part in the manual. Mine was surprisingly well written. This thing is pretty helpful. I take it along in an otterbox kit and it's worked on a bunch of stuff. My only qualm is three variety of tips. I use my big irons to weld plastic and whatnot too. It'd be awesome if I could use standard tips with these irons.
@TheGeekiestGuy none of the extra tips they sell work for you?
@@temporarilyoffline I started using the tips from my wood burning kit and some odd decoupage tips. If they made a screw in adapter I'd be set.
@@temporarilyoffline maybe I'll make a custom screw in tip when I get a spare. I have a couple dies I could use. Turns out most wood burners use 8/32 size shafts. Same as my arrows.
You can press to boost. Love mine.
I saw that! Just not used to having that feature.
@@temporarilyoffline You can also power this with a gardening tool battery using an adapter.
Sweet! @@Aimsport-video
Hey, I need a link to those 52 amp fuses... I've been wandering about these tiny irons; now I know.
For the price it was worth playing with - especially with how small it is!
Leaded solder is the only way to go. This iron might be good for in the field use for sure. Thanks and take care. 73 Vic de KE8JWE
Thanks Vic!
Nice. Do the sell extra tips or tip styles?
You can find them on the Pine64 website, they have 3 sets of 4ea tips.
I agree wholeheartedly that lead free solder sucks.
Try and replace a component that was installed using lead free solder.
FIRST you have to put leaded solder into the lead free, just to make it easier to remove. Then use a desoldering tool, and then apply ANOTHER batch of leaded solder to allow you to completely remove all of the lead free solder by desoldering it.
Yes Virginia, Lead Free Solder does indeed suck.
So say we all, including the bossman, Big Clive.
Hear, hear!
Think it could handle soldering a pl259 connector on some rg8x?
Yes
@@temporarilyoffline Awesome!
Great video a a bit off topic but is your RV power converter super RF loud? I cant even use a radio in my RV without S9 noise.
Mine isn't in particular for some reason, but others around me are and I can "Feel" it when people come and go in the park.
lol. I’m one of them. Even on battery power at the picnic table I have to unplug the rv from shore power to SSB.
It’s on my fix list but don’t really know where to start.
@@user-pf4ep5vk7h the WFCO converter should be an easy (enough) unplug test. If that's the problem they are replacabke, but I don't know which one would be RF quiet. I don't think it's a requirement in the RV industry to even think bout RF
What’s your RV rig? We have a tiny little 18’ bunkhouse for pleasure camping.
I'm in a Rockwood Mini-Lite now. youtube.com/@livingforalivingrv @@user-pf4ep5vk7h
(Edit) I do not know Chris's experience, but I would be glad to review the design. Running ok at 30A but fusing a trace at 40 is not much margin.
I would have ohmed out the red-red and black-black on the bare pcb, but thats just me.
Sounds great!
Edit added....
I do not know Chris's experience, but I would be glad to review the design. Running ok at 30A but fusing a trace at 40 is not much margin.
@@redrockengineer I have a video where I do a longer test, watching temperature rise. It's a bit boring, but the upshot is it survived >30 amps without a ton of temp rise. 73,
RedRockEngineer == Lee McC KI5YPR
Sorry, multiple accounts.
The margin from 30A ok with temp rise to 30A on a really hot day with a brief 40A pulse (which you want the fuse to survive) is very small. The traces would be helped a bunch with more copper, wider or thicker.
@@LeeMcc_KI5YPR Wider isn't much of an option, but I can look at thicker. Appreciate the feedback! 73,
I use lead free solder, not a professional just hobbyist. It is better cause it's less forgiving and it forces you to do a better job. And I'm not inhaling those lead fumes
Awesome!
Can i use the pinecil with a portable 10000 mAh powerbank 🤔
Most likely, yes.
Yes, but you really want USB-C PD output on the power bank. Using a Pinecil on a USB-A port is slow and sad. A USB-C port that can do 65W is best.
Im diggin it but I have an old school small butane one. However, its not temp controlled. :(
The fuse holder is cool too.
Stop testing our purchasing addictions with stuff we dont have!😂
Right! Why do you think I have a channel? So I can play this stuff out and hopefully recover a few pennies!
@temporarilyoffline haha, good point. I'm gonna turn my hobby into a 24/7 ATM too!😄👍💰💰💰
Ignoring the camera shake this was interesting.
Its a new setup for me, still trying to figure out the best way. You're right though: This isn't it.
Same people that make PinePhone Pro Expedition Edition (EE). Thats a first of its kind fully functioning Linux phone by 'pine64' same people that make soldering iron
I wanted to try that. Any good?
@@temporarilyoffline if you already have some experience with the Linux environment, yes. But its not for someone who knows nothing in Linux. its also more of an "experimenter's" phone. i would not have it as my daily driver. (or at least have a 2nd phone as backup). but it is cool
@@dan_in_sd I can see that... And I would hope it worked out that way. I'm still interested
??? How important, or how much should I spend on a tip cleaner brass wool pad?…
Be safe.
They aren't that expensive, here is an example: amzn.to/3tHUH0g I've never had any problems with my hakko. I'm trying the pinecil because of space and its working pretty good.
52 amp fuse....funny
🤣
It's pronounced "solder" not "solder" ;)
Noted. Thanks Norm!
I just killed my Pinecil the other day... Wrong polarity..................... Its dead Bye!
eewww yuck!
I just got the same iron and I like it as well. I just wish it didn’t have a 5525 barrel jack but a slightly smaller one (maybe 5521?) so I could use the Powerpole to barrel jack cables I already have for my KX2.
I'm the other way around. I prefer the 5525 over the 5521 myself. Totally understand.
Now I can't get a KX2.
@@temporarilyoffline I think 5525 fits the KX2 as well but the other way around the pin is too thick 😐
@@pcfreak1992 I'm not sure which one of us is winning this one 🤣
@@temporarilyoffline Haha 😆 Well the 5525 “fits” but it’s not a sturdy connection and maybe there is a higher chance for a loose contact, I didn’t check that.
@@pcfreak1992 ok, still safe!