Then again this same dude who said “If Jmane was really pushing peace he would be going to Oblock and in the trenches doing it” . NOW he got something to say about that too. I understand yall like him and all but at this point even the biggest young fan can’t deny the envy and jealously he has of Jmane. And if he feels some type of way and he ain’t pushing no peace how come he isn’t or didn’t do anything to get back before everyone got locked up? “aInT nO pOiNt iN hIm cRaShInG oUt”, ok well quit acting like you still about war and against peace then.
@@jamesgomillion4584 exactly…everybody lost someone…shouldn’t be like yea peace cool go do this and that..then when a mf do it be like nahhh fuck peace 🤣😮💨this why mfs have a hard time respecting young
So first it was “if Jmane was really pushing peace he’d be doing it in Oblock and in the trenches”. NOW that’s a problem too. Idc how much you like this dude, if you a honest person there’s no denying the envy and jealousy he has for Jmane at this point. Soon as I seen Jmane in Oblock I said wonder why young going to say to keep the hating going now, here we have it.
Naw no envy. Everybody entitled to their own opinion. Some people not as forgiving. He never said jmane was wrong. He gave him his credit for doing things the righteous way
This the same mf that said j mayne should go to o block if he really pushing peace. Nobody knew what would happen to j mayne when he went but he still took that risk. It could’ve been a mf on o block ready to crash n get j mayne outta there but he still went. Young is a clown grow up man you 34.
Bro stop judging! Young lost probably all his friends his brother and mom. Oblock was a big reason why. Until you in that men shoes don’t even talk on him
@ that should be the main reason he should want peace unless he really don’t love his homies…. You participating in the nonstop violence = you know another homie is NEXT SO WHY KEEP DOIN IT?
for people like young, pushin peace would have to be him staying on his side of the fence without any violence and just focus on money.. not everyone can do what jmane is doing but respect his perspective, i get ir
never forget this one thing..... DIRECT YOUR ANGER TOWARDS THE PEOPLE OR PERSON THAT DID HARM TO YOU OR A LOVED ONE OR FRIEND the same way you'll direct that in-direct hate, anger or "feeling some type of way" towards a so call friend.
Aye keep this setup tho 16 this will differentiate you from others and get more views and on top of that it look more conversational than being behind the camera like most
@@LaymanGaminso that means they should keep the shit going so they can lose more folks ? And them boys ain’t kill his mama you can’t put that on the world
If you really think about it . 16 don’t get enough credit for what he has accomplished. People feed off others ppls energy. I feel like he humbled a lot of these guys from both ends. It’s just that maybe that’s not what he was going for or maybe he wasn’t trying to get credit for what he was doing. Regardless, these open discussions kind of have a therapeutical effect, that later lead to more productive life line.
Young said his version of pushing peace would be staying out the way and putting positive energy in the air but when j mane did exactly that young said it wasn’t enough lol
There you go 16 keep going keep pushing re invent yoself! Views back up just like that bro I’ve seen it happen to every channel they have a down period then they go crazy outta nowhere !
What I respect about Dutchie and Young is that it would be 1000x easier and more beneficial for them to both take the Jamyne approach, jump on the bandwagon and push peace, but it just wouldn’t feel right for them, that 1, 2, 3 shit they created as kids meant something to them, even with duck gone, those numbers still represent them internally. I respect their loyalty to that.
Man stfu they grown men now hella ppl lost on both sides. Young is 33 years old talkin like this. Black people be lost 30 years old w the same mentality grow up.
He not jumping the bandwagon.. but nobody wanna be real about it. The 63rd war.. his opps got out the way everyone they felt was a threat through the years.. with being this old now he don’t wanna push peace.. & wanna rap like he sliding.. it don’t mix.
@@itslia9175YOUNG is not 33 stupid, if duck died at 26 in 2020, duck would be 30, Young has always been 3 years younger than dutchie and duck, so he’s 27 that’s why he called himself young. Stupid.
I understand young hurt behind all the loses & Jmane walking around with a Cereal box not really doing anything that’s making significant change, it’s definitely a start because the right intentions are there but young seem like he feel Jmane riding a “Peace” wave because it’s putting light on him & he half way in half out. Seem like Jmane gon jump on whatever brings him light whether it’s Trolling, Comedy, or Pushing Peace, they clearly kno each other more then we do & Jmane made his name online off trolling so it seem like young calling his bluff🧐
Cash gone, duck gone, shit everybody gone and now they want peace? He'll naw. Why didn't they wanna push peace when duck tryed? Duck and others would be here💯
Jmane trying to kick it with Durk after Durk trolled Young’s brother death, but young can’t feel a way? Jmane pushing peace movement is fake idc what anyone say. He still comes out with tracks promoting violence every now and then. He just found something that caught on and ran with it for the bag. He realized the other side has motion and 63rd/Jaro had damn near none The way acted in his most recent video is a glimpse of who he really is.
grown goofy based off title, look bradda im in nashville tn & im tired of mfs dyin n going to jail 💯 killet beef get da money or killet beef n be broke idc just killet beef fa da FUTURE 😭
Boul just bitter and hatin . He told that boul Jmane go to oblock 😂😂😂 that’s why he won’t ever level up to his full potential. You don’t clap for others that why it won’t. Ever be your turn . And his case it won’t be his turn ever again…
“You told that man go out there and push some peace, you said that out your mouth” Young you are a coward, you told me something he did it. He actually went out there. Young what are you doing?
@@Gbpackers911nah fr. Young and dutchie the last two faces left from that side & they put on from the very beginning and people like jmane and yella is the ones profiting because they have ties to them boys but they wasn’t frontline putting their life on the line when they was dying back to back
I feel like 16 on some instigating shit on this part not gon lie … I know J Mane and DJ U trolled u a lil bit behind the scenes at Durk show.. but u ain’t gotta Instigate my boy.. these def was some instigating questions right here.. niggas pushing peace and u asking these weird ass questions that’s gon keep shit going.. I peep everything
Kuz u a goofy to obviously that man a walking contradiction he not putting in no work behind duck or his brotha he should be the main one pushing peace
He makes no sense when he talks . . You can’t say one thing and when it’s done you say it’s does nothing for me or care about what another man do . . Ignorance
Why it gotta be a negative or a goofy reason to why j mane pushing peace like why it can’t it just be cause he really want change with no hidden agendas even duck was tryna push peace
Then again this same dude who said “If Jmane was really pushing peace he would be going to Oblock and in the trenches doing it” . NOW he got something to say about that too. I understand yall like him and all but at this point even the biggest young fan can’t deny the envy and jealously he has of Jmane. And if he feels some type of way and he ain’t pushing no peace how come he isn’t or didn’t do anything to get back before everyone got locked up? “aInT nO pOiNt iN hIm cRaShInG oUt”, ok well quit acting like you still about war and against peace then.
And lil jay may like dudes but can’t no one take away what he was about in the trenches and he said young was literally the softest and goofiest dude in FBG
jmane coulda just kept to the jokes and never mentioned peace. its corny that young is tryna diminish his jmanes peace push as jmane just tryna make money. he was already on for being funny and goin on no jumper bein funny. but he took the spotlight and turned it into a positive. young a real live hater for what hes sayin here
He talked about if J mane push peace he gotta go to Oblock but then says if I push peace I’ll stay out the way and put positivity in the world isn’t that wtf you said J mane couldn’t do
Too much hate in this video… if you see somebody tryna do right just salute it & move on.. stop criticizing it.. if he was dissin & gettin paid y’all wouldn’t do this so stop hatin it looks bad
Man 16 what do you want him to say, the amswer your thnkng of? You asked him the same damn question about 3-4 times. To the point that he even forgot what you said again.
Everybody don’t think like you. As a Man I make my own decision. Especially when it comes to my life and my family safety. Ppl think he doing it just for him but he has a daughter, a mom and he wanna live to see them straight. I’m gone always respect Peace over Beef.
Dude confused now he saying he put the scenario out there lol he told j mane he wasn’t pushing peace fr cus he wasn’t going to Chicago just on interviews
His brother got killed like 3 years ago, and he feels his mother passed because of it. I understand why he feels the way he feels.
Then again this same dude who said “If Jmane was really pushing peace he would be going to Oblock and in the trenches doing it” . NOW he got something to say about that too. I understand yall like him and all but at this point even the biggest young fan can’t deny the envy and jealously he has of Jmane. And if he feels some type of way and he ain’t pushing no peace how come he isn’t or didn’t do anything to get back before everyone got locked up? “aInT nO pOiNt iN hIm cRaShInG oUt”, ok well quit acting like you still about war and against peace then.
@@jamesgomillion4584 exactly…everybody lost someone…shouldn’t be like yea peace cool go do this and that..then when a mf do it be like nahhh fuck peace 🤣😮💨this why mfs have a hard time respecting young
He hate so much but a int spinning he might as well push peace he been peaceful this whole time 😅
Don't forget everybody else before that
Yeah it's too kateb
@@jamesgomillion4584jealous how? J mane WANTED to do what young does and failed
He had to resort to talentless gossipping
I feel the same way 16 feel about pushing peace, we don’t gotta be cool but we can stop being violent
This one 👏🏽
Ain’t no making FBG Young happy 😂😂😂
It’s nothing funny about trauma. He just lost his brother and to think Jmane supposed to be there friend.
So first it was “if Jmane was really pushing peace he’d be doing it in Oblock and in the trenches”. NOW that’s a problem too. Idc how much you like this dude, if you a honest person there’s no denying the envy and jealousy he has for Jmane at this point. Soon as I seen Jmane in Oblock I said wonder why young going to say to keep the hating going now, here we have it.
He definitely jealous of my boy
Naw no envy. Everybody entitled to their own opinion. Some people not as forgiving. He never said jmane was wrong. He gave him his credit for doing things the righteous way
Yall some clowns he ain’t hating on Jmane he been giving him his props he don’t have to agree wit the shit mfs doing
Frfr
He’s not jealous. They love eachother. Go watch the interviews, they just both strong on their opinions.
Young the same mf to say if you really pushing peace go to oblock and now that he went he mad lmao 😂😂 this mf just salty asfk
Ong
Facts
Wouldn’t u be..
J Mane Suggested That Young Didn't Say That Get Yo Word's Rite
This man showed no signs of being salty. 😂 Y’all say anything
I'm glad Young made it to the interview safe after the Tiger attack that left his pants shredded gotta be careful out there lol
It was a pooch
Yoo 😂😂😂😂😂😂that tiger fkd him up fr fr
Shut the fuck up yall 2 or dumb that why yall 2 didn’t get in smirk birthday party you 2 or cry baby’s
Bro😂😂
😂😂
good interview 16, keep em coming. you ask relevant questions and get solid answers in result. glad to see you back posting more
He ask instigating questions too lol he know what he b doing .. tryna keep shit going on the low
Seeing j mayne in o block, i had to go listen to his old track nightmare on o block. 🔥
😂😂😂😂😂
"You can't tell I got it on me, but the glizzy tucked" 🔫😂
@aguynamedkevin8469 💀💀💀💀
No J mane is doing it right you push peace in your community and talk it out with the people you had problems with. And build as a community
Not as simple as that if those same people killed the people u love
I can see why a lot of people don’t want to push peace
This the same mf that said j mayne should go to o block if he really pushing peace. Nobody knew what would happen to j mayne when he went but he still took that risk. It could’ve been a mf on o block ready to crash n get j mayne outta there but he still went. Young is a clown grow up man you 34.
Young 34 is crazy he almost 30 tho
34? Goofy young bout 28 dumb dumb
Bro stop judging! Young lost probably all his friends his brother and mom. Oblock was a big reason why. Until you in that men shoes don’t even talk on him
@ that should be the main reason he should want peace unless he really don’t love his homies…. You participating in the nonstop violence = you know another homie is NEXT SO WHY KEEP DOIN IT?
He push peace in his own life, goofy
for people like young, pushin peace would have to be him staying on his side of the fence without any violence and just focus on money.. not everyone can do what jmane is doing but respect his perspective, i get ir
never forget this one thing..... DIRECT YOUR ANGER TOWARDS THE PEOPLE OR PERSON THAT DID HARM TO YOU OR A LOVED ONE OR FRIEND the same way you'll direct that in-direct hate, anger or "feeling some type of way" towards a so call friend.
Glad to see you back 16
and 16 salute with the questions
young talk like Elmer Fudd when he stutter 😂😂
Young has short man energy
16 onna come up again wit this one
Aye keep this setup tho 16 this will differentiate you from others and get more views and on top of that it look more conversational than being behind the camera like most
Stop the slick hating on fyb j mane. Give him his flowers now he deserves it.
Young need to grow up
He lost his brother n mother n all his friends to this.
@@LaymanGaminboth sides lost so what is young talking about
Probably at age 50
@@LaymanGaminso that means they should keep the shit going so they can lose more folks ? And them boys ain’t kill his mama you can’t put that on the world
@@myraalexander71 these niggas don’t want change man they to worried about street respect💯
16 cooking
The purpose of the pushing peace thing is to do it with people you have or had issues with.
This bout to be a GOATed video
Lol hmm wyo
I like your set up u got…keep doing your thang 16…you to me are one of the most solid out here…
Appreciate that gang, the love is real
@ on me
If you really think about it . 16 don’t get enough credit for what he has accomplished. People feed off others ppls energy. I feel like he humbled a lot of these guys from both ends. It’s just that maybe that’s not what he was going for or maybe he wasn’t trying to get credit for what he was doing. Regardless, these open discussions kind of have a therapeutical effect, that later lead to more productive life line.
Young ain’t tryna get door’d
I understand Young… and I hope u got friends that really get that pain with you
This dude FOS ,16 💯 wit what he saying about tha situation
Young said he hadda go to oblock & DID with no war 🎉🎉🎉🎉
DOMT BUY THE MEMBERSHIP HE FINESSIN US
You got the wrong one get platinum
Young usually fresh…tf my boy got on this interview? 😂
Why you worried about how he dressing, like you his bih 😆 bro you want to dress him, buy him sone outfits like he yo boo? 😂😂😂
@@TwistedMellbruh they kill me tf you care how another man dress shit never crosses my mind 😂
Good interview coming fashoo I can tell already
16 back!
4:34 Bluffed HIMSELF into It
#Genius
Young said his version of pushing peace would be staying out the way and putting positive energy in the air but when j mane did exactly that young said it wasn’t enough lol
Edog and Wooski need to link up
Fbg Young and Prince Dre should link.
Everybody got a Opp they still got love for❤
Young strong, he gon be cool 😎
J Mane stood on business tho 💯
There you go 16 keep going keep pushing re invent yoself! Views back up just like that bro I’ve seen it happen to every channel they have a down period then they go crazy outta nowhere !
Appreciate it gang! 💯
What I respect about Dutchie and Young is that it would be 1000x easier and more beneficial for them to both take the Jamyne approach, jump on the bandwagon and push peace, but it just wouldn’t feel right for them, that 1, 2, 3 shit they created as kids meant something to them, even with duck gone, those numbers still represent them internally. I respect their loyalty to that.
Man stfu they grown men now hella ppl lost on both sides. Young is 33 years old talkin like this. Black people be lost 30 years old w the same mentality grow up.
He not jumping the bandwagon.. but nobody wanna be real about it. The 63rd war.. his opps got out the way everyone they felt was a threat through the years.. with being this old now he don’t wanna push peace.. & wanna rap like he sliding.. it don’t mix.
Niggas be forgetting young blood brother cash got deleted because of durk 😂
@@itslia9175YOUNG is not 33 stupid, if duck died at 26 in 2020, duck would be 30, Young has always been 3 years younger than dutchie and duck, so he’s 27 that’s why he called himself young. Stupid.
@@itslia9175it’s only black people with this same mentality?
16shot em is dying to make a comeback dju and everyone is killing him right now
You people love animosity and people beefing
I don't see why when 16 is a better interviewer 🤷🏾♀️💯 dju is a try hard
@@Uwolz facts 💯
Ever since I saw that clip of him smiling when they brought up Prince Dre I can’t help but think how dope it would be to see them collaborate
What clip?
Man the way y'all dressing now
Man big rappers been dressing weird for awhile now..
16💥📸em
2:31 I thought my phone was tripping 😭
16shotem should start pushing peace instead of interviewing goofys that ain’t bout it
🔥
I understand young hurt behind all the loses & Jmane walking around with a Cereal box not really doing anything that’s making significant change, it’s definitely a start because the right intentions are there but young seem like he feel Jmane riding a “Peace” wave because it’s putting light on him & he half way in half out. Seem like Jmane gon jump on whatever brings him light whether it’s Trolling, Comedy, or Pushing Peace, they clearly kno each other more then we do & Jmane made his name online off trolling so it seem like young calling his bluff🧐
Cash gone, duck gone, shit everybody gone and now they want peace? He'll naw. Why didn't they wanna push peace when duck tryed? Duck and others would be here💯
I fw young but those jeans weak asl
Bruh you definitely said that 😒
DROP THE WHOLE SHIT
Jmane trying to kick it with Durk after Durk trolled Young’s brother death, but young can’t feel a way? Jmane pushing peace movement is fake idc what anyone say. He still comes out with tracks promoting violence every now and then. He just found something that caught on and ran with it for the bag. He realized the other side has motion and 63rd/Jaro had damn near none The way acted in his most recent video is a glimpse of who he really is.
He went to the O next day dq said fuck duck ?
Fr? 💀
@ yea he shared bloodhound q50 new song said fuck duck n brick
Facts 😂
THANK U THESE PPL GOOFY ASFFFF
Well u see young basically say he not with pushing peace dq must feel the same
Push peace until u get yo ass nailt ✅️
Young always keep it G
The dude In that interview with j mane and Tay savage diss Duck right after that interview they pushing peace with j mane not 63rd Mob and TW.
Great marketing strategy , To Release the clip where he Talks about Jmane First 👍🏾
grown goofy based off title, look bradda im in nashville tn & im tired of mfs dyin n going to jail 💯 killet beef get da money or killet beef n be broke idc just killet beef fa da FUTURE 😭
You never been in the streets or lost family to that shit you can’t tell that man how to feel.🤦🏿
Anf Jmane hella goofy I bet he seen them ngas clowning him n OBLOCK after just like when he was at the concert
Boul just bitter and hatin . He told that boul Jmane go to oblock 😂😂😂 that’s why he won’t ever level up to his full potential. You don’t clap for others that why it won’t. Ever be your turn . And his case it won’t be his turn ever again…
If u would not be bitter after losing your blood brother idk what to tell u …u ah clown
Dude be speaking sum real shyt
He is but this was his idea
@ you don’t know a joke when you hear one I see 😂 That Mann ain’t mean literally do that & He ain’t expect JMane to really do that JMANE WILD 🤷🏾♂️😴
@@OrientalKlana joke? Man stop eat dicking that’s wasn’t no joke the nigga was crying yelling about it and he did it
Dude a pure hater from duck to Billy to jmane dude jus mad it ain't him he gotta sell weed an blog cuz he can't rap unless he use cash lyrics he lost
@@carlosjones8889 Mann DONT NUN OF THAT SHYT MATTER MORALLY DUDE RIGHTEOUS HE BE SAYING SUM TUFF SHYT 🔥💯 YIU GETTING PERSONAL 😂🤣
“You told that man go out there and push some peace, you said that out your mouth” Young you are a coward, you told me something he did it. He actually went out there. Young what are you doing?
16 got his eyebrows done looking like a lil mama🤣🤣🤣
🫡 salute
This man young a hater lol he stay hating sneak dissing his own guys smh
Who Yella and jmane? Cuz they clowns who ain't even respected like that
@@Gbpackers911nah fr. Young and dutchie the last two faces left from that side & they put on from the very beginning and people like jmane and yella is the ones profiting because they have ties to them boys but they wasn’t frontline putting their life on the line when they was dying back to back
@@LGHardin2 exactly couldn't have said it better 💯
@@Gbpackers911who ever did anything to yella?? Name somebody lol
@@Mblk_45yella got shot at trying to push peace 💀💀
I feel like 16 on some instigating shit on this part not gon lie … I know J Mane and DJ U trolled u a lil bit behind the scenes at Durk show.. but u ain’t gotta Instigate my boy.. these def was some instigating questions right here.. niggas pushing peace and u asking these weird ass questions that’s gon keep shit going.. I peep everything
Lmaooo does he know what peace is?
Wtf is those jeansss? 😭😭😭🤣
Rick Owen jeans 1300$ I did my research
@@DtDt-jy4bcthem mfs zesty ash and big ash
@@DtDt-jy4bcyou can but them for 30$ in turkey
@@DKDK-h7gso wearing pants is zesty I swear y’all be sounding dumb 24/7
@@DtDt-jy4bclmfaoooo
I see nothing wrong with youngs approach
Kuz u a goofy to obviously that man a walking contradiction he not putting in no work behind duck or his brotha he should be the main one pushing peace
Full video ?
‘My pushing peace is get out the way and put positive energy in the world’ what salty energy you pushing 🤔
J Mayne look goofy with Dq lol especially after Dq shared the song dissing duck and brick immediately after
😂💯
Can tell mfs only agreed for the clout I guarantee jmane not going there without Tay savage
He didn't share the diss part
@@cvo7617 the diss is in the song buzzin regardless of what part he shared 😂 he knew what he was doin
He makes no sense when he talks . . You can’t say one thing and when it’s done you say it’s does nothing for me or care about what another man do . . Ignorance
He not going to push peace but he going to push sassy with them provocative jeans on😂😂
Only u think that
These dudes funny , just say no you ain’t with it lol and stand where you stand ….he doing all this tip toe’n….
Young a goofy. He not even a threat to anyone fr. He wanna be an opp At 33 yrs old.
Fbg young should play Marvel black panther
Why it gotta be a negative or a goofy reason to why j mane pushing peace like why it can’t it just be cause he really want change with no hidden agendas even duck was tryna push peace
What brand is that shirt? I see alot of young kids wearing it, most of the kids be out side 24/7 pickpocketing though
Prolly denim tears but ian seen that
Young a real upstanding Member. Stay strong and keep going up family!
Then again this same dude who said “If Jmane was really pushing peace he would be going to Oblock and in the trenches doing it” . NOW he got something to say about that too. I understand yall like him and all but at this point even the biggest young fan can’t deny the envy and jealously he has of Jmane. And if he feels some type of way and he ain’t pushing no peace how come he isn’t or didn’t do anything to get back before everyone got locked up? “aInT nO pOiNt iN hIm cRaShInG oUt”, ok well quit acting like you still about war and against peace then.
And lil jay may like dudes but can’t no one take away what he was about in the trenches and he said young was literally the softest and goofiest dude in FBG
jmane coulda just kept to the jokes and never mentioned peace. its corny that young is tryna diminish his jmanes peace push as jmane just tryna make money. he was already on for being funny and goin on no jumper bein funny. but he took the spotlight and turned it into a positive. young a real live hater for what hes sayin here
2 haters straight up
Y’all be talking about Jmane but he still gotta feed his family sheesh
16 ex oblock so young is pushing peace ✌️😂
Aye but watch corporate cartel interview with lil Mikey. Now the whoopman gotta bring them to 62
Yea cause they was diss Duck and brick while Jmane had his Duck 🍑 in there
He talked about if J mane push peace he gotta go to Oblock but then says if I push peace I’ll stay out the way and put positivity in the world isn’t that wtf you said J mane couldn’t do
I couldn’t and wouldn’t when I just lost my brother and my friend of decades man YALL clowns
Young a hater tbh..his music ain’t went nowhere it ain’t going nowhere Jmane passed you up my boy 😂
Lmao i just knew young was gon say sum hating shi
Mane Young dumb 😂 mane said what can I say?.....
What was the question again?
Too much hate in this video… if you see somebody tryna do right just salute it & move on.. stop criticizing it.. if he was dissin & gettin paid y’all wouldn’t do this so stop hatin it looks bad
Ppl hate to see growth Its sad‼️
Man 16 what do you want him to say, the amswer your thnkng of? You asked him the same damn question about 3-4 times. To the point that he even forgot what you said again.
Everybody don’t think like you. As a Man I make my own decision. Especially when it comes to my life and my family safety. Ppl think he doing it just for him but he has a daughter, a mom and he wanna live to see them straight. I’m gone always respect Peace over Beef.
Young a goof
So tell me what Jmane is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 when ngas was dissn Duck brick while he had his Duck 🍑 n there..he a clown
@leesanurse6474 he a goof too tf u thought I'd say nigga 🤣
💔💔💔 I just made a video about this
Go get back for FBG cash they stood over him dummy💯
U a fool idiot
Young was right about jmane go watch jmanes recent interview with corporate
He definitely told him go in unlock and accept everything that come with It lol
Dude confused now he saying he put the scenario out there lol he told j mane he wasn’t pushing peace fr cus he wasn’t going to Chicago just on interviews
That’s why god didn’t give you that vision/purpose. He gave it to jmane because he’s willing to go into the lions den to get the vision off.
Is Young wearing a blouse or woman's sweater??