2017 Honda GDI (Injector) Replacement - P0172 - Earth Dreams - #6

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  • @davidwalz3009
    @davidwalz3009 7 місяців тому +3

    Your video really helped me do this job on my wife’s CRV. Saved a ton of money doing this myself. Much appreciated!

  • @bkoz319
    @bkoz319 2 роки тому +6

    same thing happened to my 2017 crv, 107k miles, thanks for the vid

  • @Narrowgaugefilms
    @Narrowgaugefilms Рік тому +4

    We have this car.
    We have these symptoms.
    Maybe two years ago our friend took a liking to our CR-V. I told her to look for the base model with the 2.4L (old-style) engine. Another friend has a 2011 with about 200 Grand on it with that engine.
    -good call...for HER!

    • @grant9047
      @grant9047 7 місяців тому

      yeah I heard that 2.4L is a better engine

    • @Narrowgaugefilms
      @Narrowgaugefilms 7 місяців тому

      The good news is shortly after the post above, I bought regular-old fuel injector cleaner at the supermarket. We dose a full tank of gas at the beginning of each season and 13,000 miles later the dashboard is still working exactly as it should.

    • @JSVKK
      @JSVKK 6 місяців тому

      Honda's 1.5L has this issue,they need to recall almost all turbocharged vehicles not just crv.I experienced same issue.

  • @user-rj4se2wy6p
    @user-rj4se2wy6p Рік тому +12

    Experienced the same symptoms, except the warning light would disappear and reappear after a couple of days. Our '17 CRV has 57,520 miles on it. I thought it might be the computer module, however, the Honda dealership said it was the fuel injectors. Repair cost total was $ 1,492 (after $ 125 reward points deducted). I doubt I will be purchasing another CRV in the future. This is my 4th CRV.

    • @bryangaytan9777
      @bryangaytan9777 Рік тому +2

      Did it resolve the problem replacing the injectors?

    • @AngelSanchez-jk4cx
      @AngelSanchez-jk4cx Рік тому +1

      Mine went out @62,000 miles currently on my 4th CRV too .

    • @bobconner8425
      @bobconner8425 9 місяців тому +1

      I had all 4 replaced, it was covered under my 1000,000 power train warranty. I bought a 2017 touring in 2018 with 5,000 miles. It was a certified pre owned, I will never buy used again, will be only pre owned. Zero cost under warranty. I had 94,000 miles on it when they were replaced

  • @RomeJr90
    @RomeJr90 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this video. I have been looking for a breakdown on how to do this repair. I have a 2018 Honda CRV with around 90K miles and we got the same code and warning lights. Took it to the dealer and they diagnosed the fuel injectors but wanted $1700 for the job.

    • @hak2297
      @hak2297 2 роки тому +1

      I thought Honda extended the warranty on 2017 and 2018 Hondas to 6 years and unlimited mileage because of the oil dilution issue?
      They posted a bulletin for it. Might be worth looking into. Might not apply because apparently it's only some states or something. But if it does I would argue with them that this should be covered under the power train extended warranty especially since it happened because of the oil dilution bs.

    • @markklecha5004
      @markklecha5004 2 роки тому +1

      This happened to me too and tried fighting with them about extended warranty and they said fuel injectors aren’t apart of the power train. Just curious what part numbers did you have to order to get this done. Thanks

    • @hinene
      @hinene Рік тому +1

      @@hak2297 I have a 2018 and I had the same issue at 53K, was covered under warranty. All the lights illuminated in my dash pulled the codes and I got misfire cylinder 1. took it to the dealership and said the injectors were covered up to 70k. I hope it does not come back but if it does, I will do it myself. Thanks for the video @factotum Life.

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix Рік тому +12

    That 1.5L turbo is Honda’s worst engine.

  • @jimbike8064
    @jimbike8064 Рік тому +2

    2020 Honda Accord 1.5. 42k miles. Glad i got the extended warranty.

  • @Mike_Can_Fix-it
    @Mike_Can_Fix-it Рік тому

    If you park, cut the engine, restart it: the check engine light turns off and engine returns to running smoothly. It typically will CEL and run rough, low power etx...when the driver gives heavy throttle input. Floors the gas pedal in other words, since injectors cannot increase fuel flow that quickly to keep up with the sudden increase in air volume. You get a lean mixture, maybe an after fire, back fire or pinging (detonation).
    I KNOW that cutting engine is counter intuitive. So don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anything was done incorrectly. Everyone reacts different, especially if there is a naivety about what actually is happening. Our crv did the same thing to my wife. It is a 2.4 and had 204,000 miles on the clock when it happened. Luckily it's a pretty straight forward fix. Thank you for the video

  • @tamtamdioso1233
    @tamtamdioso1233 2 роки тому +2

    awesome vid , i have a 17 si but its similar if not same set up for the L15B7

  • @Engineer_Eric_59
    @Engineer_Eric_59 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for posting. Same issue, but no loss in fuel economy, RPM is steady. no misfires and very smooth acceleration. I may look at the battery terminals. Had it at Honda and they said injectors but would not tell me the code. So that made me question their validity. Why not tell me what code they got. ?? Anyhow will check the terminals as that can be cause as well from the research I have done. I just changed out the body control module as the security alarm would not shut off. Only have 60K on this. The quality of Honda has gone way down.

  • @juanquinteromarin5976
    @juanquinteromarin5976 9 місяців тому +2

    Que gran trabajo. Felicidades

  • @fredinsky3843
    @fredinsky3843 2 роки тому +1

    Hello, i wanted to thank you for your videos concerning oil dilution on the Honda CR-V. I am curious to see if your injector replacement will affect your oil samples going forward. Thanks again and keep up the great content.

  • @jimh8644
    @jimh8644 Рік тому +4

    What a pain in the a$$ job. I would NEVER attempt. Cudos to you for diagnosis and repair. I recently (last week) almost purchased a beautiful 2020 Accord with a 1.5L GDI turbo engine. Did not purchase it (at the last minute) due to the oil dilution and carbon on intake valve issues.
    "She's beautiful but she's a bitch".
    Dodged a bullet on that one!

  • @grant9047
    @grant9047 7 місяців тому

    I'm having the same problem now, I gotta replace these fuel injectors.

  • @chrismcwhirt6640
    @chrismcwhirt6640 Рік тому +1

    Currently in this process w 2017 crv...dealer can't find any fuel injectors. Mine also did the warning light thing

  • @aprilmoon2014
    @aprilmoon2014 3 дні тому

    I have an appointment to replace my fuel injectors for this same problem. Will this happen again after it's been fixed at the Honda Dealership, I'm just not trusting them anymore

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  3 дні тому

      Not sure - I have been wondering that myself. I replaced injectors at 85K and now have 120K so I will be paying attention as the mileage increases. The part numbers on the replacement injectors were different from the factory leading me to theorize a change had been made in the part. I have no idea if true or not.

  • @GK_Squid
    @GK_Squid 6 місяців тому

    My 2015 fit is about to hit 80k miles. Is this something that can be done easy with simple tools? My only concern is the tight workspace

  • @grant9047
    @grant9047 7 місяців тому

    2017 honda crv exl and it's got 120k on the dash and it's misfiring quite a bit, codes are P0303 cylinder 3 misfire, and U0401-68

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  7 місяців тому

      With my Injector problem I never had misfire codes, just a standalone P0172. The U0401-68 is interesting as it appears to be some type of invalid data code. At 120K hopefully you have completed at least one set of spark plugs. I changed spark plugs and coils around 90K miles based on mileage. I like to do the coil boots with plugs, but were not available separately so I bought all new Hitachi coils for $15/each.

  • @JBGC916
    @JBGC916 Рік тому

    props on the fish eye corner view perfect for repair jobs.

  • @marcveilette7473
    @marcveilette7473 Рік тому +1

    Great informative video....
    Would you recommend a fuel injector cleaner ?
    Like the Lucas injector cleaner with upper cylinder lubricant , for example...

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  Рік тому +2

      An injector cleaner wouldn't hurt and may be viable alternative. At the time of the video I didn't have the flexibility and time for trying injector cleaners and comparing before and after fuel trims. It would've been interesting test. I did notice the part numbers on the new injectors were different than the old, which leads me to believe something was changed with the injector.

    • @utmichael2008
      @utmichael2008 9 місяців тому

      @@factotumlife Yes the fuel injector model number changed about May 2023; Just had my wife's 2017 CRV serviced for P0172 code; it has 58,xxx miles on it. Stealership informed us we did not qualify for any of the service bulletins that Honda has published, as her engine passed cylinder A/F test and they claim no evidence of fuel in the oil.

  • @starman2253
    @starman2253 8 місяців тому

    I changed the injection and it didn’t work,the head gasket was the problem.

  • @246alfa
    @246alfa 7 місяців тому

    No need to change injectors. They are simply washed out, replacing the microfilter, Teflon and rubber. Then check 40-120 Bar and put it back into the car.

  • @williamcourtright2145
    @williamcourtright2145 Рік тому +1

    Are any additional items like o-rings or gaskets needed for the re-install?

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  Рік тому +1

      New injectors were equipped with new seals. I replaced the intake manifold gasket and throttle body gasket.

    • @williamcourtright2145
      @williamcourtright2145 Рік тому

      Thank you for the response.

  • @user-fe4ym6hb3z
    @user-fe4ym6hb3z 10 місяців тому

    Hi good video that should not be happening on a 85k Honda shame on u Honda crv

  • @baojack
    @baojack Рік тому

    What is the model of the fuel injector Seal Set, Injector - Honda (16453-5R1-J00)? it's that one?

  • @daleraether9825
    @daleraether9825 2 роки тому +1

    What scanner tool did you get for your CR-V.? I have a 2021 CR-V with 9K and live in Florida. The oil doesn't rise as long as I use premium. As soon as I put regular in it, it starts rising again. As sensitive as this motor is, I think it would be a good idea to check the fuel trim once a year or so, and address any issues before they cause the oil to start rising again even with premium.

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  2 роки тому

      I bought Bluedriver through Amazon.
      us.bluedriver.com/pages/bluedriver
      The actual hardware is the obdII dongle and download the app on your phone/device for the visual tool. It provides a good amount of info for the money. The dongle doesn't appear to do bi-directional - no programming, functional tests, but you can reset check engine light and it provides lots of data. My only gripe is if I turn the car on and off the dongle sometimes doesn't re-establish communication and requires complete disconnect and reboot of app.
      I would definitely recommend the tool.

  • @Cartier332
    @Cartier332 10 місяців тому

    Appreciate this video, I own a 2016 accord sport (similar engine) and preforming the same job. I'm currently working on it and stuck/ended the day on the removal of the injectors but they are stuck just like yours. I'm concerned about removing them as i don't want to damage anything. So what was the placement of your pliers when removing them individually from the engine? And what other methods would you use to remove them?

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  10 місяців тому

      Another option might be a small slide hammer kit. This would allow you to pop up vs. prying.

    • @Cartier332
      @Cartier332 10 місяців тому

      @@factotumlife appreciate that and the quick response. I was actually able to twist and turn them until they loosened up. Then just applied some pull force and they popped right out

  • @danhirtle7825
    @danhirtle7825 Рік тому +2

    Back in the day engines coming out of Detroit were worn out by 100,000 miles. Nowadays fuel efficiency requirements demand tolerances and technology which have also resulted in engines which will easily last 300K with proper maintenance. Honda seems to have compensated for this by designing expensive ancillary systems (CVT transmission, GDI systems) which fail at around, you guessed it, 100,000 miles despite best efforts at maintenance requiring owners to spend thousands of dollars to keep driving an otherwise lovely paperweight.

    • @FirstLast-pe8cw
      @FirstLast-pe8cw Рік тому

      @@Azureecosse mine needed replacement at 135k. Just saying.

  • @karachioilchange
    @karachioilchange 7 місяців тому

    do you need a special to pull out GDI injectors from fuel Rail ?

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  7 місяців тому +1

      Injectors to fuel rail have a spring like clip that comes apart without a special tool.

  • @grant9047
    @grant9047 7 місяців тому

    What parts do I need to do this job?

  • @edvangrouw
    @edvangrouw 5 місяців тому

    I'm told by Honda dealer we need an engine replacement due to turbo injectors going bad. Live in MN, our 2017 CR-v EX has 108,000 miles. cost 10-14-k, question, if i buy a new engine are the injectors part of engine or a separate purchase?is there a separate turbo unit? I'm being told by another shop the turbo comes with engine..any feedback w/b helpful...thx

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  5 місяців тому

      Yikes! Does the engine run? What exactly happened? How the engine will arrive will probably vary depending on where it is being sourced from. If the engine was used from a salvage yard I would expect the engine to come fairly complete with turbo and injectors, unless noted otherwise. If Honda is replacing the engine NEW, the engine will be ordered pieces as a separate sub-assembly, not a ready to install engine, and require the technician to assemble at the shop. Honda sells a small block assembly (pistons, crank, block) assembled, Cylinder head would be separate order assembly(not sure if complete with valves), as would injectors, and turbo. The technician would have to assemble the cylinder head on the block, along with turbo, injectors, timing chain, etc. I would definitely reach out and verify exactly what parts are included in that estimate.
      The ready to install engine is typically called a 'Long Block' and includes cylinder head, block, pistons, crank, and timing components in a ready to install state...To my knowledge Honda doesn't sell engines in 'Long Block' form, but you may want to verify by calling a Honda Parts department.

    • @edvangrouw
      @edvangrouw 5 місяців тому

      engine still runs, story similar to yours, daughter informed me the dashboard was all lite up with the warning indicators blinking .took to local repair shop diagnosed P0139, replaced oxygen sensors charged $1,500. one week later same happened, engine running poorly lots of smoke coming out of tailpipe. Car at honda dealer, states care needs new turbo injectors and engine. will not dig into engine because to much labor cost, so not telling me exactly what is wrong with engine. I'm thinking of just replacing injectors and see if that solves problem. if not , then replace engine...i'm not mechanical, so I'm at the mercy of the service department. uncomfortable place to be @@factotumlife

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  5 місяців тому +1

      The dealer should be able to expand on theory of engine diagnosis without actually digging into it - like are they recommending based on oil consumption (smoke) or lack of compression leading to engine running poorly. I would be highly suspicious of any engine condemned with Injectors not working correctly. The cylinder walls can become over fueled, washed down, leading to lack of compression. Low tension piston rings require oil film to help provide adequate seal and if fuel has washed the oil away a low compression engine may be mistaken as a mechanical problem when it really is just flooded with fuel. I think you are on the correct path to replace the injectors and re-asses the situation after the vehicles flooded fuel situation is resolved.
      If the dealer is still calling an engine after injectors consider having a leak down test completed. Test removes spark plug, places engine in TDC (top dead center), install a hose connection into spark plug and blows air. If engine has mechanical problems it will show with excessive air leaking through, intake, exhaust (valves), or crankcase (cylinders). However its not worth doing test if engine is flooded with fuel because it will show excessive air leakage past cylinders.

  • @johnnymade8426
    @johnnymade8426 Рік тому +5

    HONDA is the new 90's HYUNDAI. I owned a 10th generation accord. Computer died at 33k, warranty ended at 36K, brakes went at 38K, then the big problem came at 58.6K FUEL INJECTOR FAILURE $1600 repair-must replace all 4!! Videos on my channel for all to see. Not covered under my warranty! Called Honda how could major part failure occur so early!!! Got ghosted! Dealerships so out of touch they recommended brake fluid replacement at 30K. Started researching and found out Earth Dream engines turn into Earth Nightmare engine: injector failure, oil dillution, turbo failure, cat converter failure start appearing @ 100k. By the time you see the signs all the dealers and influencers will be smiling down on you but helpful to sell you the newest version for a nice loss passed on to you. With almost identical engine I have no doubt the 11th Gen Accord will siphon your wallet turbo fashion after that joke of a 36k warranty runs out 😂

    • @m109r
      @m109r Рік тому +1

      Your comment is correct. I own a 2019 crv. The 1.5 is terrible. I have owned hondas since 1991 have seen problems like 1.5 liter has.

    • @utmichael2008
      @utmichael2008 9 місяців тому

      Is there any way to determine health of the cat? Our family CR-V just had Fuel Injector replacement done following P0172 code. Argued with dealership for a week that it needed service bulletin applied but they are claiming it's not making oil (no oil dilution by gasoline).

  • @victorfred1992
    @victorfred1992 5 місяців тому

    Where did you buy the new fuel injectors from?

  • @lu_w9999
    @lu_w9999 Рік тому

    What is long term and short term fuel ration you got for before and after? My 2018 just pop P0172 a few times then disappear itself, what can I do now? Throw in some Techron or replace the injector is the way on the road? Thanks

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  Рік тому +1

      Before injectors replaced long term fuel trim was -20 to -22. After injectors replaced long term fuel trim was -2 to -5. I didn't have time for fuel treatments, but it would be interesting testing if intervention of fuel treatment could reverse the injector issue.

    • @lu_w9999
      @lu_w9999 Рік тому

      @@factotumlife thanks, mine is at -17 to -19 long trim at the moment, bought some techron, will try a few bottles see if it can make any improvement. Also do you know at what fuel trim and p0172 is pop? Or it is based on other numbers too?

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  Рік тому +2

      P0172 threshold is -20 long term for a certain amount of running time. How much running time I am not so sure.

  • @dadonron89
    @dadonron89 Рік тому +1

    Where did you purchase the fuel injectors?

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  Рік тому +1

      hondafactoryparts.com

    • @dadonron89
      @dadonron89 Рік тому

      Is that bottom insulator pad necessary? I broke the clips and I'm having a hard time finding them

  • @RonnyCarraleroMulet
    @RonnyCarraleroMulet 5 місяців тому

    where did you buy the injectors

  • @Dons166
    @Dons166 7 місяців тому

    Was the power increase significant?

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  7 місяців тому

      Felt more responsive and smooth.

  • @user-fe4ym6hb3z
    @user-fe4ym6hb3z 10 місяців тому

    Up to 2012yes after that yr no

  • @Jaguarspaw5
    @Jaguarspaw5 11 місяців тому

    You think a fuel injection cleaning will help

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  11 місяців тому +1

      Give it a try. I didn't have time on my side to see if a few rounds of injector cleaner would help, but it would be interesting to document if it does.

    • @tracy2762
      @tracy2762 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@factotumlifewith the carbon build up how are the spark plugs doing? also did the new fuel injectors solve part of your issue?

  • @kurtownsj00
    @kurtownsj00 8 місяців тому

    You fast-forward skipped over the CRUCIAL part I'm looking for, Installing the INJECTORS! The uh....other *half* of the job you're showing.
    You show cleaning, then fast forward while they're shoved in, appear to try to show the camera something with chipmunk hyper-speed voice, then move right onto the rail. That seal with the GDI injectors is a crucial, essential step that is just ignored!
    Trying to decipher if I need the special tool for "forming" the white seals at the tips or if I can slowly insert without destroying them.

    • @factotumlife
      @factotumlife  8 місяців тому +1

      I didn't use a special tool for forming the seals. With that said, the seals were already installed on the injectors as opposed to installing new seals on existing injectors. Maybe I got lucky?

  • @robingawronska7124
    @robingawronska7124 10 місяців тому

    Can not see what you are doing