Victoria de los Ángeles reveals an Assoluta Range with Blasting D6s in Manon's Gavotte

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  • @josemiguelgranados9723
    @josemiguelgranados9723 3 роки тому +13

    Victoria de los Angeles She was one of the great artists of the twentieth century and was recognized by all the really greats, from Tebaldi to Callas, who adored her, from Kraus to Björling, Corelli and Di Stefano or Gigli, with whom she debuted in Madrid, where she always was. favorite ... Madrid offered her the great tribute that Barcelona denied her, with Andrés Segovia and Kraus among the guests, and there I was, as in her wonderful Melisandre at the Teatro de la Zarzuela, the last opera role she performed. There are still those who remember his debut in Madrid, with Manon, and Beniamino Gigli as a partner, who gave it the full ovation of the public that night, that's how my father related it to me. Madrid will always carry Victoria in its heart and preferred her to Caballé, who, perhaps unconsciously, vetoed her at the Liceo and hurt her in his city, Barcelona

  • @esuna6352
    @esuna6352 7 років тому +34

    What I think are the most striking about Victoria de los Angeles is her brilliant musicality and her flawless mastery of languages. She's the singer that always comes to my mind as a standard for proper diction, enunciation and pronunciation in singing. She is stupendously fluent in any language she sings in!

  • @thesoubretteoftheopera7313
    @thesoubretteoftheopera7313 7 років тому +30

    Can't be just me thinking this but the opera stars in particular sopranos of yesteryear sound so much better.
    The voice sounds free and natural. Nothing forced or strained.

    • @DorisWilliams
      @DorisWilliams 4 роки тому +1

      yes agreed! Can't stand pavarotti though with his forced high notes.

    • @jerryarispi8386
      @jerryarispi8386 4 роки тому

      They were better. They made there way on talent and voice back then. Sadly, now there is such a focus on appearance. The Callas and De Los Angeles voices are out there, but would they get the support and opportunity today? Probably not. Instead we get Anna Netrebko and other mediocre voices in pretty packages. YUCK

  • @lalagonegaga
    @lalagonegaga 7 років тому +27

    This is just something else altogether. The voice, the technique, the acting, the charm, the musicality, the attention to detail - she had EVERYTHING going for her.

  • @rakellcolotta3675
    @rakellcolotta3675 4 роки тому +6

    Beautifully sung. Such a lovely and expressive voice. The top notes amazing!

  • @JustMarmalade
    @JustMarmalade 7 років тому +16

    It's absolutely wonderful! I never knew she had such top notes. I always associated her rather with beautiful middle and bottom. I couldn't find anything really high so thank you for this! And what a lovely timbre she had. I love her Mimi from La Boheme with Bjorling.

  • @JJoeisCooking
    @JJoeisCooking 4 роки тому +9

    One of my favorite sopranos and the first soprano I ever heard.

    • @thomasdeansfineart149
      @thomasdeansfineart149 3 роки тому +1

      Ah, she was also the very first soprano I ever heard in person. My parents had given me her delicious Barber of Seville (with Gui) only months before and they took me to see her in person in recital as a special treat. And what a treat! The audience virtually ate out of her hand, and we could have stayed all night--but I had school the next day.

  • @Paddy818
    @Paddy818 7 років тому +9

    How incredible to hear yet another side of this extraordinary artist! Her sense of style unparalleled! Thanks for posting!

  • @alfiea9508
    @alfiea9508 2 роки тому +3

    My all time favourite, thank you thank you for this rare D6 form her 😍! I don't know what but there is something in her voice that really touches my soul every time I listen to her. I wish more people would acknowledge what an amizing singer she was.

  • @ygorcoelhos
    @ygorcoelhos 7 років тому +25

    De los Angeles was definitely one of the most complete and versatile artists of the last century. While not possessing an immediately striking instrument, her timbre is absolutely pure gold, fully lyrical while also possessing a huge array of colors, and her musicianship is still unsurpassed in the opera world as far back as audio recordings go (there may have been her equals, but none who had better sense of style and of the shaping of a particular line).

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +3

      this clip reveals she had an Assoluta instrument in her throat... why didnt she sing the Assoluta repertoire

    • @ygorcoelhos
      @ygorcoelhos 7 років тому +4

      I think hers was fundamentally the epitome of a great voice of lyric soprano. It had a very large range, a huge array of colors, and an equally well supported voice from top to bottom, but it was fundamentally lyric, and I think she wouldn't have the metal and sheer power for more dramatic roles. Anyway, she sang difficult roles, like Butterfly, with extreme ease as if they a piece of cake.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +4

      without the Db6 at the end of Quanto cielo none can call it piece of cake

    • @loboestepario2424
      @loboestepario2424 7 років тому +10

      I would add to your analysis that Victoria de los Angeles is always intelligible, no matter in which language, whether is Spanish, Catalan, French, German, Italian... her pronounciation is absolutely clear and on point. I find that's quite a feat, on top of her musicality & the sheer beauty of her sound.

    • @poupeeroca5684
      @poupeeroca5684 6 років тому +2

      comó dice el que me precede la voz de V.de los Angeles es puro oro yo le agrego que es como la plata con esa tersura inigualable

  • @aetion
    @aetion 7 років тому +10

    She is really amazing!
    Thanks for the post.

    • @aetion
      @aetion 7 років тому +1

      She fully justifies her name *Victory of the Angels*

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +2

      well I didnt know she could sing the top notes like this...

    • @aetion
      @aetion 7 років тому

      If you did not, no one did. ;)

  • @josemiguelgranados9723
    @josemiguelgranados9723 4 роки тому +7

    Fortunately we have had great sopranos for the role of Manon ... I do not mention any, but Victoria, she was Manon, very musical, incomparable, flirtatious and young at the same time ... without a doubt the best.
    Thanks James, for you I have known today the respect that Callas had for her ...

  • @user-bc9mn7gq2c
    @user-bc9mn7gq2c 2 роки тому +4

    Top notes be damned! In this role I believe she achieved levels of insight and communication that few singers have equalled. One need go no further than Act I of this opera, esp. "Je suis encore tout etourdie" -- so much meaning!

  • @MrTrackman100
    @MrTrackman100 7 років тому +9

    As a youngster my introduction to opera started with recordings of La Boheme and Madame Butterfly, both with de los Angeles and Bjorling. Never been bettered or equaled since!

  • @zeynjenkins2073
    @zeynjenkins2073 7 років тому +7

    Beautiful high notes... So effortless...

  • @loboestepario2424
    @loboestepario2424 7 років тому +23

    There is a video of Victoria de los Angeles in the 80's, where she explains this Manon recording and says that, though she had the very high notes, she never intended to use them for the sake of them, that she felt she was "showing off" (as if it was something negative, her character was like that).
    Then they go on talking about this aria, and she says that she recorded a first version without the very high notes, and then the conductor (or the De Grieux? I don't remember) went to see her and said: "you know, Victoria, in here in France you have to sing the high notes, otherwise, it would be very awkward, as these are part of tradition". So she did a second take, which I suppose is this one!

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +14

      For years I was slightly searching to locate her top notes... now I know
      why I couldn't... another viewer informed me about her idea of the
      Butterfly entrance Db6 being out of music text.. I totally disagree, I
      find it fantastic but EXCRUTIATINGLY difficult to sing as it demands
      abrupt jump from legato middle voice singing to sustained dramatic
      stratosphere (one of THE most difficult notes ever written)... as for
      this one, it is not just a matter of tradition, Manon here is a woman
      exhibiting her Beauty like crazy, she is supposed to sing D6.. ...but what amazes me here
      is that her top notes are not like the top
      notes of the other Avoiders (Flagstad, Ponselle...) They are
      FANTASTIC... extremely steady, powerful and sung with full body of
      voice

    • @Rukasepar
      @Rukasepar 7 років тому +1

      Lore has it that it was Henri Legay (her Des Grieux on this classic recording) who convinced her to go for the high D or whatever the bloody thing is called. The result is most convincing. Thanks to EMI this recording transitioned from LP to CD and despite "mono" only it's a feat.
      :-)

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +1

      not only convincing, this is D6 steady, sustained, powerful and full Body... it reveals the voice of an Assoluta if she had chosen to keep singing up there considering the fact she also had a wonderful low... I wonder why she never sang the Assoluta repertoire

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому

      + Martín Carvajal First your write F6 then G6.. I ve known for a long time the famous G6 that Esclarmonde contains, isnt it a G6? or it contains an F6 as well?

    • @francoisherisson2910
      @francoisherisson2910 7 років тому +3

      loboestepario2424 and her French is excellent! Beautiful..!

  • @lewissilvers5832
    @lewissilvers5832 3 роки тому +3

    BRAVA!BRAVA! Her Manon,Melisande etc.- heard at the Old met- were HEAVEN!

  • @wildbunch3894
    @wildbunch3894 3 роки тому +5

    Cómo se puede cantar tan bien, Dios mío? Magnífica

  • @cashelnd
    @cashelnd Рік тому +1

    This was the first recording of Victoria de los Angeles I heard as a teenager several decades ago, and it remains a treasurable document, probably unsurpassed in the archive of studio recordings. Among the DVD documents, the Barcelona performance with Dessay and Villazon is quite wonderful, and despite the grim staging conveys something of the same poignancy and heartbreak that the de los Angeles recording so beautifully offers.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  Рік тому +1

      Dessay shows her tits and grabs her pussy or...?

  • @karenkim3377
    @karenkim3377 Рік тому +2

    Liquid silver- what a magical listening experience.

  • @user-bc9mn7gq2c
    @user-bc9mn7gq2c 4 роки тому +6

    Is this taken from the Pierre Monteux recording? Could the sound here have been raised just slightly in pitch from the original??

  • @pammyjones1151
    @pammyjones1151 7 років тому +7

    Wow!....I was surprised too....what year please? Sounds very early in her career..... thanks for sharing 😊

  • @jmiller05
    @jmiller05 7 років тому +14

    I never knew she had those notes... usually her voice got tight on a C6, but this is gorgeous, effervescent singing.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +5

      I didnt know either... one of the Viewers who was her personal friend informed me and here it is.. and more... and it is extremely powerful, not thin and falsetto... she ascends Full Body up there

    • @jmiller05
      @jmiller05 7 років тому +5

      I always loved Los Angeles's middle voice, so beautiful and feminine.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +2

      is this the real tonality of the piece? if it is EVERYBODY else flat-sings it... I think in the middle she goes up to Eb6 1:56 :D

    • @jmiller05
      @jmiller05 7 років тому +1

      Lohengrin O Well she might have gone a bit sharp lol.
      Massenet was truly the High D king.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +1

      ...but what amazes me here is that her top notes are not like the top notes of the other Avoiders (Flagstad, Ponselle...) They are FANTASTIC... extremely steady, powerful and sung with full body of voice

  • @Mawrdew
    @Mawrdew 4 роки тому +2

    Loved reading James McCourt's comments. I'm a huge fan of, "Mawrdew Czgowchwz," McCourt's great ode to divadienst.

  • @lewissilvers5832
    @lewissilvers5832 3 роки тому +1

    BRAVA! Her Manon,Melisande etc.-heard at the OLDcMet- were heaven!

  • @Toscarpia
    @Toscarpia 7 років тому +5

    "with one Blasting D6", to be exact...

  • @gobluts
    @gobluts 3 роки тому +2

    diamond like tones.....gorgeous

  • @jordipanadesribera6890
    @jordipanadesribera6890 2 роки тому +2

    ÚNICA.

  • @violin3394
    @violin3394 8 місяців тому +1

    Who is James McCourt to say that Catalan women don't seem to know who they are? That's pretty disrespectful

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT Рік тому +1

    #Victoria_De_Los_Ángeles100 🌹🌹🌹

  • @antoniofernandez-albalatga5731
    @antoniofernandez-albalatga5731 9 місяців тому +1

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @henrygingercat
    @henrygingercat 7 років тому +5

    Her intelligence and musicianship were of the very highest order. Alas her top Ds were not.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 років тому +5

      these particular D6s are fantastic... perhaps u refer to her later D6s

  • @idroj6566
    @idroj6566 4 роки тому +2

    De distinguit el Sr. McCourt no en té res. Més aviat es un gran mal educat. Victoria certament era d' origen espanyol ,però va estimar Catalunya i es va sentir Espanyola i Catalana a la vegada.Si es cert que va cantar cançons del folklore espanyol com ningú, també va ser així amb la seva excelsa interpretació de les cançons populars catalanes. El comentari sobre les dones catalanes i la negació de la catalanitat de Victòria ,es inapropiada i mal intencionada. Faig el comentari en català per q es una llengua tan important i rica com la Anglès,francès o Italia... aquest nivell de xenofòbia ,McCourt, es un greu problema q vostè té i cregui'm,als catalans ningú ens ha de venir a explicar qui va ser Victòria de los Ángeles!