She will steam again some day (when Cheltenham's boiler certificate expires perhaps) however in the mean time, she's enjoying a well earned rest. Also, as I've always said on matters like this, if you approached the NRM with the cash and a plan for her overhaul and care and operation they would be more than willing to talk.
That is simply a reality, we should if we want to keep this hobby as alive as we can we should be realistic. Coal burning will, maybe not now or tomorrow, be a thing of the past.
For me it's not the fact Truro can't steam again its the fact the museum can't be bothered to put the effort in to find the resources to make it happen keep history alive. It's bit like saying why keep the Scotsman going
So if they recon that since the main line is getting faster, she wouldn't be able to keep up with the new trains so she would be more suited as a stationary train for the rest of her life? Rubbish! what's wrong with putting her on loan to somewhere like the WSR were with regular maintenance she should be able to run for many years to come
Having watched this video... and also understanding the massive costs involved in renovating main line steam engines and also building new steam locomotives... I would ask the NRM this simple question... If a locomotive needs renovation then why is a collecting box not provided next to each locomotive? If the museum really does have 800 - 900 thousand visitors per annum, if each visitor donated just £1 then surely this would provide a large amount of the cost to restoring this locomotive? The society I belonged to built a brand new 12" narrow gauge steam locomotive for almost £100,000 purely on donations! Alright it took us 12 years to do but at least there was light at the end of the tunnel! Steam engines need to live, breath and work... it's what they were built for and it's what makes them 'alive' - cost is not an issue if you truly 'are' a railway 'enthusiast' or preservationist!
For now city of Truro resides in the Swindon steam museum, tell you I was so surprised to see her when I rounded a corner and saw that name/number plate, beautiful locomotive, wish I could of seen her at the dean forest railway when it visited.
Fastest and best only? She was timed to be the first to hit 100mph, how does that not make her one of the best? I do agree that she would be right at home in the WSR or SVR, or even the Paignton and Dartmouth. The comment about deserving a retirement, that's like killing a person so they don't have to spend effort breathing. As for needing boiler work which would cause the removal of historical parts, what about when she was superheated and returned to spice after retirement, all of this was in the early to mid 20th century, so they didn't conserve as many historic parts.
Most of her parts are not original anyhow, 1912, 1935, etc she was heavily overhauled/rebuilt when historical integrity wasn't an issue, so the NRM saying they want to preserve her in original condition doesn't have original to preserve,
I understand his point but what about my generation of the 21st century, will we ever get to work on these amazing engines, the only thing I'd worrieing about is originality
I hate to say it but the originality point is utterly moot. There are no "original locos" They have all in their working lives and post gone through refits, repairs and overhauls. Maybe a pressure gauge and the plates, but that is about it, realistically speaking. I would pass up originality for restoration and thus further preservation. Don't ever look to close at some of the items there or (And its not a museum so I completely get the care is minimal) the rusting carcass found at the harry potter place. I went there with my niece and the coupling rods were rusting up a treat. So yes Parts need to be replace in order to preserve these things. From my time working in museums you learn very quickly. Nothing lasts forever unless its under constant maintenance and that means replacing parts. The NRM has change enormously over the years, their direction and method has changed to. TLDR its unlikely that younger generations will get to work on these. and don't worry too much about originality in this instance.
It’s always easier to sit on your hands and do nothing, it’s time to move some new blood into the organisation people who are actively seeking opportunities and means to keep our heritage alive not quietly mouldering in a museum.
So presumably there's no point in building new dedicated high-speed lines, and it won't be possible to run the slower freights any more? The local freight-only line seems to carry a lot of steam specials...
shes in much better condition than many engines out there. I think it would be much better to stop another engine rusting to nothing and give it a chance before its too late. she could always be refitted in 20 years time or something like that since she wont deteriorate much while sat at york
I never saw it in steam sadly hope one day it might maybe preserved Railways will step in, plus can run there. Understand it costs but sure they could raise money like Tornado, Flying Scotsman and other ones do on websites.
They’re not gonna destroy City of Truro aren’t they? I hope they don’t send it to the scrap yard. Cause where I come from, Gatineau, Quebec, Canada, we had a steam train. Unfortunately after the railway lines were washed away by the storm, as well as budget problems, they demolished the passenger cars, took away the steam locomotive, and ripped up the railway tracks. True story, but sad. 😢😢😢😢
So basically, he is saying. We are not going to spend any money on her. But nobody else can have her, because we don’t want someone else to have her. A very selfish attitude. All said with a nice smile on his face.
"I would sooner wear out than rust out" Rev. George Whitefield
She will steam again some day (when Cheltenham's boiler certificate expires perhaps) however in the mean time, she's enjoying a well earned rest.
Also, as I've always said on matters like this, if you approached the NRM with the cash and a plan for her overhaul and care and operation they would be more than willing to talk.
I hope you are right!
If you consider his argument, technically that means that there will be a time where no steam engines run on the mainline any more...
There's still heritage railways tho
That is simply a reality, we should if we want to keep this hobby as alive as we can we should be realistic. Coal burning will, maybe not now or tomorrow, be a thing of the past.
For me it's not the fact Truro can't steam again its the fact the museum can't be bothered to put the effort in to find the resources to make it happen keep history alive. It's bit like saying why keep the Scotsman going
So if they recon that since the main line is getting faster, she wouldn't be able to keep up with the new trains so she would be more suited as a stationary train for the rest of her life? Rubbish! what's wrong with putting her on loan to somewhere like the WSR were with regular maintenance she should be able to run for many years to come
If the WSR stumped up the cash to overhaul her I don't think the NRM would say no.
Having watched this video... and also understanding the massive costs involved in renovating main line steam engines and also building new steam locomotives... I would ask the NRM this simple question...
If a locomotive needs renovation then why is a collecting box not provided next to each locomotive? If the museum really does have 800 - 900 thousand visitors per annum, if each visitor donated just £1 then surely this would provide a large amount of the cost to restoring this locomotive? The society I belonged to built a brand new 12" narrow gauge steam locomotive for almost £100,000 purely on donations! Alright it took us 12 years to do but at least there was light at the end of the tunnel! Steam engines need to live, breath and work... it's what they were built for and it's what makes them 'alive' - cost is not an issue if you truly 'are' a railway 'enthusiast' or preservationist!
Steam locomotives, don't like sitting around doing nothing. The worst thing you can do is not run it. Second worst thing you can do is run it.
What a brilliant idea!
For now city of Truro resides in the Swindon steam museum, tell you I was so surprised to see her when I rounded a corner and saw that name/number plate, beautiful locomotive, wish I could of seen her at the dean forest railway when it visited.
Fastest and best only? She was timed to be the first to hit 100mph, how does that not make her one of the best? I do agree that she would be right at home in the WSR or SVR, or even the Paignton and Dartmouth. The comment about deserving a retirement, that's like killing a person so they don't have to spend effort breathing. As for needing boiler work which would cause the removal of historical parts, what about when she was superheated and returned to spice after retirement, all of this was in the early to mid 20th century, so they didn't conserve as many historic parts.
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Most of her parts are not original anyhow, 1912, 1935, etc she was heavily overhauled/rebuilt when historical integrity wasn't an issue, so the NRM saying they want to preserve her in original condition doesn't have original to preserve,
@@jacobwoods8738 meanwhile,Scotsman has barely LNER but they still run her. Sus
I understand his point but what about my generation of the 21st century, will we ever get to work on these amazing engines, the only thing I'd worrieing about is originality
I hate to say it but the originality point is utterly moot. There are no "original locos" They have all in their working lives and post gone through refits, repairs and overhauls. Maybe a pressure gauge and the plates, but that is about it, realistically speaking. I would pass up originality for restoration and thus further preservation. Don't ever look to close at some of the items there or (And its not a museum so I completely get the care is minimal) the rusting carcass found at the harry potter place. I went there with my niece and the coupling rods were rusting up a treat. So yes Parts need to be replace in order to preserve these things. From my time working in museums you learn very quickly. Nothing lasts forever unless its under constant maintenance and that means replacing parts.
The NRM has change enormously over the years, their direction and method has changed to. TLDR its unlikely that younger generations will get to work on these. and don't worry too much about originality in this instance.
So... another question would be is, Is there any point in a Claud Hamilton rebuild
Dean goods is in a very good position at STEAM museum as people can go inside the cab of it which is very good
It’s always easier to sit on your hands and do nothing, it’s time to move some new blood into the organisation people who are actively seeking opportunities and means to keep our heritage alive not quietly mouldering in a museum.
So presumably there's no point in building new dedicated high-speed lines, and it won't be possible to run the slower freights any more? The local freight-only line seems to carry a lot of steam specials...
What a terribly negative set of answers :-(
Just about zero chance on the main line for steam in the future with this attitude.
I've honestly never heard someone dribble so much crap in a few minutes before. He's a very dull man
shes in much better condition than many engines out there. I think it would be much better to stop another engine rusting to nothing and give it a chance before its too late. she could always be refitted in 20 years time or something like that since she wont deteriorate much while sat at york
I never saw it in steam sadly hope one day it might maybe preserved Railways will step in, plus can run there. Understand it costs but sure they could raise money like Tornado, Flying Scotsman and other ones do on websites.
They’re not gonna destroy City of Truro aren’t they? I hope they don’t send it to the scrap yard. Cause where I come from, Gatineau, Quebec, Canada, we had a steam train. Unfortunately after the railway lines were washed away by the storm, as well as budget problems, they demolished the passenger cars, took away the steam locomotive, and ripped up the railway tracks. True story, but sad. 😢😢😢😢
So basically, he is saying. We are not going to spend any money on her. But nobody else can have her, because we don’t want someone else to have her. A very selfish attitude. All said with a nice smile on his face.
Yeah i think he's basically missed the whole point. I think he's just taken a politicians view
Should be out and about at least a few times a year, No Future for it STUCK in a damn museum!!
Although seeing Truro back im service would be beautiful,lest juts give him a well deserved rest,same For Stepney the Bluebell engine.
It should be sent to a railway were it has steam trains and bigger lines also please don't let this be scrap this train my favorite
keldeo studies If They Send This To A Railway With Steam Engines Maybe The WSR(West Somerset Railway) Or The SVR(Severn Valley Railway)
How much is truro worth ??
seems city is angry that he is forgotten and overlooked because of scott
Preserved Railway Restricted Retirement Life, then.