Yep, she rules. Her and Norn were my two white whales for the longest time. Finally pulled Norn on Alch and then Liza on third Forever Summon attempt for her.
Liza's passive works on an equip to equip basic. If you used her support equip once, it'll be filled by 5% automatically and increase by 5% for each consecutive use. This however doesn't fill up the others' bars by 5%.
Thank you for releasing these videos I don’t watch all of them but every time I do watch a video I always feel more motivated to do menial tasks like doing dishes or farming mines. I’ll try to watch all of your videos when I get the chance to
The way that her passive equip CT reduction is different than her active, Her active shortens equip ct the way most things do by speeding up how fast they refill this causes equips to lose 1/3 of their CT (using just her TA) but her passive automatically fills the equip gauge which makes it more valuable.
@@davideparretti4122 I don't know what this is a response to, if you are saying her active can, then No it does not if you are saying an equip on her can be reduced to have because of her passive you are correct and that's partially what I'm saying if you mean neither than I don't understand
@@issapicks6750 I meant with her passive (maxed) plus 50% ct down with her ta she can reduce the ct by more than half, speaking of one of her equips of course
Congrats my dude! On my forever summon I FINALLY got myself a Batiste and man is this boy good. Now gotta save up those rainbows for his true weapon, got daggers at least.
I got Liza yesterday at forever summons and claimed her asap. Ran a couple of Ifrit boss crest and after consuming 2 Large Potions, got a 4+ crest. 3 flux drops later, got Equip CT. Been waiting for her for so long.
For palamicia i recommend using elfala and norn togehter , so spam ta from elfala and art from norn , that's the unique form to paralyze every Time, also recommend using relic dagger 4 Star physical ítem from light relics , and also true Griffin of course.
2:42 oh my god yes! I hate that you can lose your TA because the screen changed. Literally EVERYWHERE ELSE the game lets the TA go through before switching the weapon. Why not for the Mine!?
Not sure how long since mines first came out but here I am still with zero equips from the damn mines and I’ve always made it to the lowest floor every time it comes around.
I must be living under a rock.I have Lisa from my 2nd forever summon , and i barely even use her(because i got melty for art gen),i guess i will be using her frequently!
Got Liza and Orvell from my free CTB summon and have been SLEEPIN on Liza this whole time, also just got Juno from my grat summon so I’m bout to go break this game now
The reason for not having an icon for witch’s proposal is you don’t need to know the threshold. For dcelia you need the icon to know when you’re at max stacks and you can start using the ta.
idk when i got my liza, but Liza definitely helped me through a lot of content especially since I got juno last year during the Juno event. Congrats on getting her, I think she is good on almost any Magic team, but I believe you could possibly see her truly shine on a Mono light magic team. I don't have miranda, but I think Miranda Liza Juno Mako be a nice possibly team to try out in the future or any other comp you can think of. I have sometimes took my tank off in some content and replaced liza in place and my dmg was enough to win without dying, but I lack some of the good equips to possibly make her shine even further.
Juno deals dark damage though on her true art, so you wont get as much value as people think from liza. Beatrice is nice to have with juno because she gives dark and magic resist down.
@@abot4218 true but liza is easier for f2p than Beatrice do to one is crossover and other is permanent available I dont have Beatrice but definitely one I would try for. It just depends on units one has and how they use them. I know a decent mines equip that is magic but has a stacking effect that cause juno to hit even harder with liza than beatrice do to the equip lowering dark res Combine that with liza equip ct and assuming someone on team uses fen shorts you have insane dmg. But as I said a lil bit ago, just depends on what you have available and how to use it
Can someone explain equip CT down to me? Because Liza's 80% CT down SHOULD bring down True EX Gate from 80 secs to 16 secs. But it instead brings it down to 50 secs. What's happening?
Congrats OP. While me Leone spooks me at FS and I get Her. I still don't care on what people says. I really enjoy using Her at Coop and spamming Her Ta with 5* support Amaltia for 100% crit rate. (And yeah with True EX Gate).
She was like my first best unit After the KoB banner I don't use her as much but in harder content she your girl , she is good with juno aswell and would've been better if juno didn't do dark dmg
I got Liza a while ago and I didn't use her because I thought that she was a trash unit. It wasn't until someone on gs told me that she's literally broken. Though, I also stopped using her when I got Juno because their Arts Gen don't stack together.
I'm trying to see how far I can get in the game until I feel like I truly need Vox, just for the fun of it. I'm staying mostly F2P, but I have occasionally bought stuff to get LB Stones and Crystals. For my Forever Summon Part 1, I eventually got Sanstone, but I decided to wait and see, partly because I wanted more Crystals, and eventually Tamae appeared. For Part 2, Vox appeared day 1, but I waited again, and yesterday or the day before, whatever the 10th day was, I got Rosetta. I have Cestina and Yusuke, which I know Yusuke isn't the best for doing lots of damage anymore, but I love him too much to care, lmao.
I don't know why or how but I get the units I don't know are good, literally I got Liza, Hart, Cestina and so many others but I just didn't realise they were that good lol. (Hart on first multi kinda wack tho)
If you use Liza's 80% Equip CT Down on True EX Gate(80 sec CT), Then it reduces the time to about 50 seconds. So an 80% CT reduction takes out about 30 seconds. Does the math seem odd to anyone else?
Bit late but : It's probably because they mulriply into each other rather than being added together. Liza gets a 50% ct down and a 30% ct down so 80 - (0.5×80) = 40 then 40 - (0.3×40) = 28, rather than 80-(0.8x80) = 16 which would hqppen if the ct downs were added together first.
@@kjford587 I understand your math. But your math says that the ct time would go down to 28 secs. But when I timed it in-game, it was 50 secs. So I'm still confused.
You get shafted so much but finally overtime your getting all the good units now 👍 i get lucky once in a while but i always get dps units. I need support too lol
Question everyone After the mainance and saddly sayonara to Hatsune Miku Can we get more diamonds in every multiplayer session? Hoping to get Miranda 💪😅💪
MAN. YOU SO LUCKY. I been wanting to get her for the longest. Having Liza is like having a Equipment CT battery pack 🔋 she there so boost your Equipts to give you more damage faster. And when I got the 3th anniversary ticket. I try to pull her but I failed. The girl I got is the stupid blonde head girl with the trumpet. The light one. I'm like ewwww.. no don't give me her i want Liza T_T
How is a Liza, Vox, Mako, Juno sustain team? Since I'm worried that the team can't stay alive in some of the harder content. I have Thetis, but he's just really really boring.
Vox pseudoheal plus spammable 4* heal slot + mako should keep you topped at max HP all the time, as in, if you don't get 1 hitted, you stay alive, thethis combo with Liza is basically for the blessed necklace cheese strategy, you bless thethis, thethis revives, you bless him again non stop, Juno + mako + Liza damage should be crazy good for most content ( mako and Liza boosts Juno) and since most content is crit immune i think thethis>vox, but they are both great compositions
Yep, she rules. Her and Norn were my two white whales for the longest time. Finally pulled Norn on Alch and then Liza on third Forever Summon attempt for her.
I use Liza all the time. I love her. And I've somehow forgotten her passive 🤦🏾 she's even better than I thought 🤣
Her 80% CT down doesn't actually bring it down as much as you think.
Liza's 80% CT down brings an 80 sec equip down to 50 seconds.
@@NoHandle44 that's still alot
Liza's passive works on an equip to equip basic. If you used her support equip once, it'll be filled by 5% automatically and increase by 5% for each consecutive use. This however doesn't fill up the others' bars by 5%.
Thank you for releasing these videos I don’t watch all of them but every time I do watch a video I always feel more motivated to do menial tasks like doing dishes or farming mines. I’ll try to watch all of your videos when I get the chance to
Congrats on getting Liza!! She is so good, even better as long as you pair her with Juno. Oh boi
mine dies in any situation when I need her
@@matejmatuska6700 you need a better defense unit then
@@zeek7584 yeah my main accaunt is pretty much lucky only for attackers and support units
@@matejmatuska6700 try to invest in getting a tank like sanstone she will defenitly help you alot
They are both art gen B though?
The way that her passive equip CT reduction is different than her active, Her active shortens equip ct the way most things do by speeding up how fast they refill this causes equips to lose 1/3 of their CT (using just her TA) but her passive automatically fills the equip gauge which makes it more valuable.
This means that her "80% equip CT" is different than any other units "80% equip CT and it's weird to compare her equip speed to any else on the team's
Yes she can reduce an equip CT by more than an half
@@davideparretti4122 I don't know what this is a response to, if you are saying her active can, then No it does not if you are saying an equip on her can be reduced to have because of her passive you are correct and that's partially what I'm saying if you mean neither than I don't understand
@@issapicks6750 I meant with her passive (maxed) plus 50% ct down with her ta she can reduce the ct by more than half, speaking of one of her equips of course
@@davideparretti4122 it applies to them all but okay.
Congrats my dude! On my forever summon I FINALLY got myself a Batiste and man is this boy good. Now gotta save up those rainbows for his true weapon, got daggers at least.
I got Liza yesterday at forever summons and claimed her asap. Ran a couple of Ifrit boss crest and after consuming 2 Large Potions, got a 4+ crest. 3 flux drops later, got Equip CT. Been waiting for her for so long.
I also pulled Liza from my Forever Summon.
For palamicia i recommend using elfala and norn togehter , so spam ta from elfala and art from norn , that's the unique form to paralyze every Time, also recommend using relic dagger 4 Star physical ítem from light relics , and also true Griffin of course.
popped into my feed right as I pulled her from the forever summon, great timing
2:42 oh my god yes! I hate that you can lose your TA because the screen changed.
Literally EVERYWHERE ELSE the game lets the TA go through before switching the weapon. Why not for the Mine!?
Not sure how long since mines first came out but here I am still with zero equips from the damn mines and I’ve always made it to the lowest floor every time it comes around.
so you’re telling me ive had her all this time and barely used her
I must be living under a rock.I have Lisa from my 2nd forever summon , and i barely even use her(because i got melty for art gen),i guess i will be using her frequently!
She helped me full clear vitz man I love her hope you enjoy op
Got Liza and Orvell from my free CTB summon and have been SLEEPIN on Liza this whole time, also just got Juno from my grat summon so I’m bout to go break this game now
Can’t believe I ignored the 3 times she popped on my forever summons. Thank god I picked her up last time.
Now we got Spear Cestina and Flame Orvell
This is kind of Uplifting
Got Liza last forever summon and hart today, your boy is feeling good
The reason for not having an icon for witch’s proposal is you don’t need to know the threshold. For dcelia you need the icon to know when you’re at max stacks and you can start using the ta.
I mean still would be nice tho
@@Im_OP_Everyday 100%
I fucked up. Got her on a forever summons and forgot to decide on the unit...
I got Liza about a year ago through alch summon didn't know she was so rare/good
shes available Via alch summons?
@@vergil_6707 that's how I got her so yeah I guess so
I just got her and Thetis as my free gem summons for day one thanks to your tutorial and on 2nd reroll ❤️
So seeing this now I have a feeling it was a bad idea to skip her in the forever summons
idk when i got my liza, but Liza definitely helped me through a lot of content especially since I got juno last year during the Juno event.
Congrats on getting her, I think she is good on almost any Magic team, but I believe you could possibly see her truly shine on a Mono light magic team.
I don't have miranda, but I think Miranda Liza Juno Mako be a nice possibly team to try out in the future or any other comp you can think of.
I have sometimes took my tank off in some content and replaced liza in place and my dmg was enough to win without dying, but I lack some of the good equips to possibly make her shine even further.
Liza Juno Victoire Ritz
Juno deals dark damage though on her true art, so you wont get as much value as people think from liza. Beatrice is nice to have with juno because she gives dark and magic resist down.
@@abot4218 true but liza is easier for f2p than Beatrice do to one is crossover and other is permanent available
I dont have Beatrice but definitely one I would try for.
It just depends on units one has and how they use them.
I know a decent mines equip that is magic but has a stacking effect that cause juno to hit even harder with liza than beatrice do to the equip lowering dark res
Combine that with liza equip ct and assuming someone on team uses fen shorts you have insane dmg.
But as I said a lil bit ago, just depends on what you have available and how to use it
Ever since I pull her I can't stop using, she makes everything so much easier
I got Liza on fs part 1 and orvell on part 2 on the first day I'm happy I got 2 ctb on both of the fs
ive had lisa since she came out , and i had no idea how good she was 😭
happy for my boy keit awakening
Me and founder were jut talking about how broken Liza is then you post this
I’ve been waiting for this.
6th FS looking for liza, she is my number 2 priority after haruto
Can someone explain equip CT down to me?
Because Liza's 80% CT down SHOULD bring down True EX Gate from 80 secs to 16 secs. But it instead brings it down to 50 secs. What's happening?
Congrats OP. While me Leone spooks me at FS and I get Her. I still don't care on what people says. I really enjoy using Her at Coop and spamming Her Ta with 5* support Amaltia for 100% crit rate. (And yeah with True EX Gate).
She was like my first best unit After the KoB banner I don't use her as much but in harder content she your girl , she is good with juno aswell and would've been better if juno didn't do dark dmg
When the time I got her in my account my game is completely in easy mode now
Got my 2nd liza on queen banner and 2nd vox on king banner
Should I accept cestina as my forever summon or should I wait for eagle 😅
Eagle trash
well i’ll keep any good units since you don’t know what you’ll get later on, so take it before you regret it imo
and ofc look at your comp first, if you don’t really need cestina, then skipping her is ok
Take cestina, saved u on the long run
@@alekhaalrem1408 👌 ok thanks
Das wusste ich nicht und ich hab sie schon sehr lange xD wie am besten Equipment? True volcano villt?
I didn't know that Juno did dark dmg until now....
I got Liza a while ago and I didn't use her because I thought that she was a trash unit.
It wasn't until someone on gs told me that she's literally broken. Though, I also stopped using her when I got Juno because their Arts Gen don't stack together.
You don't need Liza for her art gen, you mainly use her for her true art which synergises well with Juno as well
@@maroufali3139 if not for the Light res down which is useless when using Juno.
@@Bexploserpro she also gives magic resist down
@@maroufali3139 also that whacky 50% equip ct
I got Liza from super summons but I kept going because I’m going for thetis or vox, was this a bad choice?
good luck I got dfen from fs part2 but got shit on part1 I honestly wanted hart but dfen is so good in a lot of nuking combos and dark ruins.
Thats who I'm aiming for
i haven't got liza for 3 years of playing
I'm trying to see how far I can get in the game until I feel like I truly need Vox, just for the fun of it. I'm staying mostly F2P, but I have occasionally bought stuff to get LB Stones and Crystals. For my Forever Summon Part 1, I eventually got Sanstone, but I decided to wait and see, partly because I wanted more Crystals, and eventually Tamae appeared. For Part 2, Vox appeared day 1, but I waited again, and yesterday or the day before, whatever the 10th day was, I got Rosetta. I have Cestina and Yusuke, which I know Yusuke isn't the best for doing lots of damage anymore, but I love him too much to care, lmao.
Nice, I re-rolled my account and got Liza as well
I’m trying to pull Hart from forever Summons but Liza popped up and now I’m very conflicted this morning😭can I get some help deciding pls 😭
shes worth it
Now I feel dumb... I've had her almost since day 1 but I have never used her...
Funny enough they gave me her on forever summon today
I don't know why or how but I get the units I don't know are good, literally I got Liza, Hart, Cestina and so many others but I just didn't realise they were that good lol. (Hart on first multi kinda wack tho)
Ayo, congrats on the Liza
I was trying to get her but I got hart for the forever summons. Then I did the kings summon and got hart a again 😭
I personally think liza is top 5 in team versatility. Almost all team comps need or could use a little equipment ct down.
If you use Liza's 80% Equip CT Down on True EX Gate(80 sec CT),
Then it reduces the time to about 50 seconds. So an 80% CT reduction takes out about 30 seconds. Does the math seem odd to anyone else?
Bit late but :
It's probably because they mulriply into each other rather than being added together. Liza gets a 50% ct down and a 30% ct down so 80 - (0.5×80) = 40 then 40 - (0.3×40) = 28, rather than 80-(0.8x80) = 16 which would hqppen if the ct downs were added together first.
@@kjford587 I understand your math. But your math says that the ct time would go down to 28 secs.
But when I timed it in-game, it was 50 secs. So I'm still confused.
Her passive still have no icon in battle until now 😅
Any items that have ability to give all allies ignore def 100%? If yes, damn just give to liza's team
Is this game worth getting back into I just got vox
You get shafted so much but finally overtime your getting all the good units now 👍 i get lucky once in a while but i always get dps units. I need support too lol
can someone send that tier list he showed or tell me where to find it?
Question everyone
After the mainance and saddly sayonara to Hatsune Miku
Can we get more diamonds in every multiplayer session?
Hoping to get Miranda 💪😅💪
If its reset yes, but the pattern i see it will gonna be at least once between every collabs
Can you use two equip time down crest if you have two crest slots
It doesn't stacks
You should be able to do it as long as the two crest doesn't have the same name (as in, crossover ct down crest + 'normal CT down crest' should work)
@@powerpoison eq ct doesnt stacks, no matter what the crest type
@@alekhaalrem1408 oh, is it just the flat stat crest that stacks if they have different names then?
liza is one of the first units i get but she dies almost in any battle so I dont use her much
MAN. YOU SO LUCKY. I been wanting to get her for the longest. Having Liza is like having a Equipment CT battery pack 🔋 she there so boost your Equipts to give you more damage faster. And when I got the 3th anniversary ticket. I try to pull her but I failed. The girl I got is the stupid blonde head girl with the trumpet. The light one. I'm like ewwww.. no don't give me her i want Liza T_T
may i ask is she better than dfen?
I use tatsumaki for palamicia. Always paralyzes
I got her last forever sum and it is worth it
How is a Liza, Vox, Mako, Juno sustain team? Since I'm worried that the team can't stay alive in some of the harder content. I have Thetis, but he's just really really boring.
Vox pseudoheal plus spammable 4* heal slot + mako should keep you topped at max HP all the time, as in, if you don't get 1 hitted, you stay alive, thethis combo with Liza is basically for the blessed necklace cheese strategy, you bless thethis, thethis revives, you bless him again non stop, Juno + mako + Liza damage should be crazy good for most content ( mako and Liza boosts Juno) and since most content is crit immune i think thethis>vox, but they are both great compositions
@@powerpoison Alright thanks!
got lucky and got fire roy from my free ticket i though it was dupe then i got a little lucky
Oh yeah Liza
OP!!!!!!!
Hello all and OP
“Equips were dropping last time”
Lies, these equips don’t exist ;(
you do that a lot
I need Makooooooo
Liza is best witch
I still don't understand Liza, i guess Liza get better and better based on how many broken equips you have...
Yea definitely